ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Ken Robinson - Author/educator
Creativity expert Sir Ken Robinson challenges the way we're educating our children. He champions a radical rethink of our school systems, to cultivate creativity and acknowledge multiple types of intelligence.

Why you should listen

Why don't we get the best out of people? Sir Ken Robinson argues that it's because we've been educated to become good workers, rather than creative thinkers. Students with restless minds and bodies -- far from being cultivated for their energy and curiosity -- are ignored or even stigmatized, with terrible consequences. "We are educating people out of their creativity," Robinson says. It's a message with deep resonance. Robinson's TED Talk has been distributed widely around the Web since its release in June 2006. The most popular words framing blog posts on his talk? "Everyone should watch this."

A visionary cultural leader, Sir Ken led the British government's 1998 advisory committee on creative and cultural education, a massive inquiry into the significance of creativity in the educational system and the economy, and was knighted in 2003 for his achievements. His 2009 book, The Element: How Finding Your Passion Changes Everything, is a New York Times bestseller and has been translated into 21 languages. A 10th anniversary edition of his classic work on creativity and innovation, Out of Our Minds: Learning to be Creative, was published in 2011. His 2013 book, Finding Your Element: How to Discover Your Talents and Passions and Transform Your Life, is a practical guide that answers questions about finding your personal Element. In his latest book, Creative Schools: The Grassroots Revolution That’s Transforming Education, he argues for an end to our outmoded industrial educational system and proposes a highly personalized, organic approach that draws on today’s unprecedented technological and professional resources to engage all students.

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TED2006

Sir Ken Robinson: Do schools kill creativity?

Ken Robinson: Versmoor skole kreatiwiteit?

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Sir Ken Robinson lewer ’n vermaaklike en uiters roerende betoog vir die skep van ’n opvoedkunde stelsel wat kreatiwiteit koester (eerder as om dit te ondermyn).
- Author/educator
Creativity expert Sir Ken Robinson challenges the way we're educating our children. He champions a radical rethink of our school systems, to cultivate creativity and acknowledge multiple types of intelligence. Full bio

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00:24
Good morningoggend. How are you?
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Goeie môre. Hoe gaan dit?
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(LaughterLag)
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It's been great, hasn'thet nie it?
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Dis fantasties sover, of hoe?
00:32
I've been blowngeblaas away by the wholehele thing.
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Die hele ding het my stomgeslaan.
00:34
In factfeit, I'm leavingverlaat.
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Eintlik is ek op pad.
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(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
00:42
There have been threedrie themestemas
runninghardloop throughdeur the conferencekonferensie
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Daar was drie temas sover,
deur die konferensie, wat relevant is
vir waaroor ek wil praat.
00:45
whichwatter are relevantrelevant
to what I want to talk about.
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One is the extraordinarybuitengewone
evidencebewyse of humanmens creativitykreatiwiteit
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Een is die ongelooflike bewyse
van menslike kreatiwiteit
in al die aanbiedings
00:52
in all of the presentationsaanbiedings that we'veons het had
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00:54
and in all of the people here.
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en in al die mense hier.
00:56
Just the varietyverskeidenheid of it
and the rangeverskeidenheid of it.
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Net die blote verskeidenheid
en omvang daarvan.
01:00
The secondtweede is
that it's put us in a placeplek
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Tweedens is ons op ’n plek
01:02
where we have no ideaidee
what's going to happengebeur,
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waar ons geen idee het
wat gaan gebeur nie,
01:04
in termsterme of the futuretoekoms.
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ten opsigte van die toekoms.
01:06
No ideaidee how this maymag playspeel out.
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Geen idee hoe dinge dalk sal verloop nie.
01:09
I have an interestbelangstelling in educationonderwys.
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Ek't ’n belang by opvoedkunde.
01:10
ActuallyEintlik, what I find is everybodyalmal
has an interestbelangstelling in educationonderwys.
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Eintlik het ons almal
’n belang by opvoedkunde.
01:15
Don't you?
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Het julle nie?
01:16
I find this very interestinginteressant.
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Dis baie interessant.
01:17
If you're at a dinneraandete partypartytjie,
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As jy by ’n ete is,
01:19
and you say you work in educationonderwys --
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en jy sê jy werk in opvoedkunde --
01:21
ActuallyEintlik, you're not oftendikwels
at dinneraandete partiespartye, franklyeerlik.
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eintlik, om die waarheid te sê,
is jy nie gereeld by etes nie.
01:24
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
01:28
If you work in educationonderwys,
you're not askedgevra.
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As jy in opvoedkunde werk,
word jy nie genooi nie.
01:31
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
01:34
And you're never askedgevra back, curiouslynuuskierig.
That's strangevreemde to me.
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En jy word nooit teruggenooi nie, snaaks genoeg.
Dis vir my vreemd.
01:38
But if you are, and you say to somebodyiemand,
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Maar as jy is, en jy sê vir iemand,
01:40
you know, they say, "What do you do?"
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hulle sê mos: "Wat doen jy vir ’n lewe?"
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and you say you work in educationonderwys,
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en jy sê jy werk in opvoedkunde,
01:44
you can see the bloodbloed runrun from theirhulle facegesig.
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sien jy hoe hulle verbleek.
Hulle's soos: "Aggenee, hoekom ek?"
01:46
They're like, "Oh my God,"
you know, "Why me?"
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01:48
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
01:50
"My one night out all weekweek."
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"My een aand uit hierdie hele week."
01:51
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
01:54
But if you askvra about theirhulle educationonderwys,
they pinspeld you to the wallmuur.
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Maar as jy iemand vra oor hulle opvoeding,
druk hulle jou in ’n hoek vas.
01:57
Because it's one of those things
that goesgaan deepdiep with people, am I right?
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Want dis een van daai dinge
wat mense na aan die hart lê, is ek reg?
Soos geloof, en geld en ander dinge.
02:01
Like religiongodsdiens, and moneygeld and other things.
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02:04
So I have a biggroot interestbelangstelling in educationonderwys,
and I think we all do.
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Ek't ’n groot belang by opvoedkunde
en ek dink ons almal het --
02:08
We have a hugegroot vestedgevestigde interestbelangstelling in it,
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’n groot persoonlike belang --
02:10
partlygedeeltelik because it's educationonderwys
that's meantbedoel to take us into this futuretoekoms
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deels omdat dit opvoeding is
wat ons in hierdie
onbegryplike toekoms moet in neem.
02:14
that we can't graspgreep.
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02:15
If you think of it,
childrenkinders startingbegin schoolskool this yearjaar
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Dink net,
kinders wat dié jaar skool begin
02:19
will be retiringuittredende in 2065.
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tree af in 2065.
02:24
NobodyNiemand has a clueleidraad,
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Niemand het ’n idee --
02:25
despiteten spyte van all the expertisekundigheid that's been
on paradeparade for the pastverlede fourvier daysdae,
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ten spyte van al die kennis
wat die laaste vier dae hier vertoon is --
02:29
what the worldwêreld will look like
in fivevyf years'jaar time.
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hoe die wêreld gaan lyk
oor vyf jaar nie.
En tog moet ons
hulle daarvoor opvoed.
02:32
And yetnog we're meantbedoel
to be educatingopvoeding them for it.
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02:34
So the unpredictabilityonvoorspelbaarheid,
I think, is extraordinarybuitengewone.
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So die onvoorspelbaarheid
is ongelooflik.
02:36
And the thirdderde partdeel of this
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En die derde deel is dat
02:38
is that we'veons het all agreedooreengekom, nonethelessnietemin,
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ons almal nietemin saamgestem het
02:40
on the really extraordinarybuitengewone
capacitieshoedanighede that childrenkinders have --
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oor die werklik buitengewone kapasiteite
wat kinders het --
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theirhulle capacitieshoedanighede for innovationinnovasie.
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hulle kapasiteite vir innovasie.
02:48
I mean, SirenaSirena last night
was a marvelbewonder, wasn'twas nie she?
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Sirena gisteraand was ongelooflik.
02:50
Just seeingsien what she could do.
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Net om te sien wat sy kan doen.
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And she's exceptionaluitsonderlike, but I think
she's not, so to speakpraat,
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En sy's uitsonderlik, maar ek dink nie
02:57
exceptionaluitsonderlike in the wholehele of childhoodkinderjare.
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sy's uitsonderlik
in die geheel van kindwees nie.
03:00
What you have there is a personpersoon
of extraordinarybuitengewone dedicationtoewyding
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Sy's ’n buitengewoon toegewyde persoon
wat ’n talent gevind het.
03:03
who foundgevind a talenttalent.
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Ek voer aan dat alle kinders
geweldige talente het.
03:05
And my contentiontwis is,
all kidskinders have tremendousgeweldige talentstalente.
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En ons vermors dit, nogal meedoënloos.
03:07
And we squandervermorsing them, prettymooi ruthlesslygenadeloos.
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03:09
So I want to talk about educationonderwys
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So ek wil praat oor opvoedkunde
03:12
and I want to talk about creativitykreatiwiteit.
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en ek wil praat oor kreatiwiteit.
03:13
My contentiontwis is that creativitykreatiwiteit now
is as importantbelangrik in educationonderwys as literacygeletterdheid,
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Kreatiwiteit is nou net so belangrik
soos geletterheid in opvoeding
03:19
and we should treatbehandel it
with the samedieselfde statusstatus.
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en ons moet dit dieselfde status toeken.
03:22
(ApplauseApplous) Thank you.
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(Applous) Dankie.
03:24
(ApplauseApplous)
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(Applous)
03:29
That was it, by the way.
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Dit was dit, terloops.
03:30
Thank you very much.
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Baie dankie.
03:31
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
03:33
So, 15 minutesminute left.
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So, nog 15 minute.
03:35
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
03:38
Well, I was bornGebore... no.
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Wel, ek is gebore... nee.
03:40
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
03:43
I heardgehoor a great storystorie recentlyonlangs
-- I love tellingvertel it --
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Ek't onlangs ’n storie gehoor --
ek vertel dit graag --
03:46
of a little girlmeisie
who was in a drawingtekening lessonles.
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van ’n dogtertjie in ’n tekenklas.
03:49
She was sixses, and she was
at the back, drawingtekening,
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Sy was ses, agter in die klas,
aan't teken,
en die juffrou het gesê
dié kind het omtrent nooit aandag gegee nie,
03:51
and the teacheronderwyser said this girlmeisie
hardlyskaars ever paidbetaal attentionaandag,
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maar in dié tekenklas het sy.
03:54
and in this drawingtekening lessonles, she did.
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The teacheronderwyser was fascinatedgefassineer.
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Die juffrou was gefassineerd.
03:57
She wenthet over to her,
and she said, "What are you drawingtekening?"
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Sy't haar gaan vra:
"Wat teken jy?"
04:00
And the girlmeisie said, "I'm
drawingtekening a pictureprent of God."
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Die kind sê toe:
"Ek teken ’n prentjie van God."
04:03
And the teacheronderwyser said, "But nobodyniemand
knowsweet what God lookslyk like."
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En die juffrou sê:
"Maar niemand weet hoe God lyk nie."
04:06
And the girlmeisie said,
"They will, in a minuteminuut."
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En die dogtertjie sê toe:
"Hulle sal nou-nou."
04:09
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
04:20
When my sonseun was fourvier in EnglandEngeland --
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Toe my seun vier was in Engeland --
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ActuallyEintlik, he was fourvier
everywhereoral, to be honesteerlik.
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eintlik was hy eerlikwaar oral vier.
04:25
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
Strenggesproke, waarookal hy gegaan het,
was hy vier daai jaar.
04:27
If we're beingwese strictstreng about it,
whereverwaarokal he wenthet, he was fourvier that yearjaar.
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Hy was in die Kersspel.
Onthou julle die storie?
04:30
He was in the NativityNativity playspeel.
Do you rememberonthou the storystorie?
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04:33
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
04:34
No, it was biggroot, it was a biggroot storystorie.
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Dit was ’n grote.
04:36
MelMel GibsonGibson did the sequelopvolger,
you maymag have seengesien it.
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Mel Gibson het die opvolg gedoen.
04:38
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
04:40
"NativityNativity IIII."
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"Kersspel II."
04:41
But JamesJames got the partdeel of JosephJosef,
whichwatter we were thrilledopgewonde about.
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James was Josef;
ons was in ons noppies.
04:45
We consideredbeskou this to be
one of the leadlei partsdele.
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Een van die hoofrolle!
04:48
We had the placeplek crammedvol
fullvolle of agentsagente in T-shirtsT-hemde:
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Ons't agente met T-hemde gehad:
04:50
"JamesJames RobinsonRobinson IS JosephJosef!" (LaughterLag)
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"James Robinson IS Josef!" (Gelag)
04:53
He didn't have to speakpraat,
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Hy moes niks sê nie,
maar julle weet mos,
04:54
but you know the bitbit
where the threedrie kingskonings come in?
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wanneer die drie wyse manne inkom?
04:57
They come in bearingdraende giftsgeskenke,
goldgoud, frankincensewierook and myrrhmirre.
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Hulle bring geskenke:
goud, wierook [frankincense] en mirre.
04:59
This really happenedgebeur.
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Dit het rêrig gebeur.
05:00
We were sittingsit there and I think
they just wenthet out of sequencevolgorde,
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Ek dink hulle't net uit beurt uit gegaan,
want ons't die seuntjie later gevra:
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because we talkedgepraat to the little boyseuntjie
afterwarddaarna and we said,
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"Was jy OK daarmee?" En hy't gesê:
"Ja. Was dit dan verkeerd?"
05:06
"You OK with that?" And he said,
"Yeah, why? Was that wrongverkeerde?"
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Hulle't net geruil.
05:09
They just switchedoorgeskakel.
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Die drie seuns kom in --
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The threedrie boysseuns camekom in,
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vierjariges met vatdoeke om hulle koppe --
05:12
four-year-oldsvier-jariges with teatee towelshanddoeke
on theirhulle headskoppe,
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en hulle sit die bokse neer,
05:14
and they put these boxesbokse down,
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en die eerste een sê:
"Ek bring vir U goud."
05:15
and the first boyseuntjie said,
"I bringbring you goldgoud."
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Die tweede een sê:
"Ek bring vir U mirre."
05:17
And the secondtweede boyseuntjie said,
"I bringbring you myrrhmirre."
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05:20
And the thirdderde boyseuntjie said, "FrankFrank sentgestuur this."
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En die derde een sê:
"Frank sent this." (Gelag)
05:22
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
Dit alles om te sê:
kinders sal ’n kans vat.
05:34
What these things have in commonalgemene
is that kidskinders will take a chancekans.
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05:37
If they don't know, they'llhulle sal have a go.
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As hulle nie weet nie, sal hulle probeer.
05:40
Am I right? They're not
frightenedbang of beingwese wrongverkeerde.
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Nie waar nie? Hulle's nie bang
om verkeerd te wees nie.
05:44
I don't mean to say that beingwese wrongverkeerde
is the samedieselfde thing as beingwese creativekreatiewe.
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Ek bedoel nie dat verkeerd wees
en kreatief wees dieselfde is nie.
05:48
What we do know is,
if you're not preparedbereid to be wrongverkeerde,
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Maar as jy nie bereid is
om verkeerd te wees nie,
05:52
you'lljy sal never come up
with anything originaloorspronklike --
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sal jy nooit
iets oorspronklik uitdink nie --
05:54
if you're not preparedbereid to be wrongverkeerde.
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as jy nie bereid is
om verkeerd te wees nie.
05:56
And by the time they get to be adultsvolwassenes,
mostdie meeste kidskinders have lostverloor that capacitykapasiteit.
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Teen die tyd wat hulle groot is,
het meeste kinders dié kapasiteit verloor.
06:01
They have becomeword
frightenedbang of beingwese wrongverkeerde.
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Hulle word bang om verkeerd te wees.
06:03
And we runrun our companiesmaatskappye like this.
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En ons bestuur ons maatskappye so.
06:05
We stigmatizestigmatiseer mistakesfoute.
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Ons stigmatiseer foute.
06:07
And we're now runninghardloop
nationalnasionale educationonderwys systemsstelsels
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En nou bedryf ons
nasionale opvoedingstelsels
waar foute die ergste ding is
wat ’n mens kan maak.
06:09
where mistakesfoute are the worstergste
thing you can make.
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06:12
And the resultgevolg is that
we are educatingopvoeding people
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En die gevolg is dat
ons mense uit
hulle kreatiewe kapasiteite uit opvoed.
06:15
out of theirhulle creativekreatiewe capacitieshoedanighede.
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Picasso het gesê dat alle kinders
gebore kunstenaars is.
06:18
PicassoPicasso oncekeer said this, he said
that all childrenkinders are bornGebore artistskunstenaars.
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06:22
The problemprobleem is to remainbly an artistkunstenaar
as we growgroei up.
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Die probleem is om een te bly
soos ons grootword.
06:25
I believe this passionatelyhartstogtelik,
that we don't growgroei into creativitykreatiwiteit,
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Ek glo vas:
Ons groei nie in kreatiwiteit in nie,
06:29
we growgroei out of it.
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ons groei uit dit uit.
Of ons word uit dit uit opgevoed.
06:30
Or rathereerder, we get educatedopgevoed out if it.
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06:33
So why is this?
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So hoekom is dit so?
06:34
I livedgewoon in Stratford-on-AvonStratford-on-Avon
untiltotdat about fivevyf yearsjaar agogelede.
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Ek't tot vyf jaar gelede
op Stratford-op-Avon gewoon.
06:38
In factfeit, we movedverskuif
from StratfordStratford to LosLos AngelesAngeles.
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Ons't van Stratford na Los Angeles getrek.
06:41
So you can imaginedink
what a seamlessnaatlose transitionoorgang that was.
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So julle kan julle indink
wat ’n seepgladde oorgang dit was.
06:44
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
Eintlik het ons in Snitterfield gewoon,
06:46
ActuallyEintlik, we livedgewoon in a placeplek
calledgenoem SnitterfieldSnitterfield,
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net buite Stratford,
06:48
just outsidebuite StratfordStratford,
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en dis waar Shakespeare se pa gebore is.
06:49
whichwatter is where
Shakespeare'sShakespeare se fatherpa was bornGebore.
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06:52
Are you struckgetref by a newnuwe thought? I was.
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Is julle getref deur ’n nuwe gedagte?
Ek is.
06:54
You don't think of ShakespeareShakespeare
havingmet a fatherpa, do you?
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Mens dink nie aan Shakespeare
as iemand met ’n pa nie.
06:57
Do you? Because you don't think
of ShakespeareShakespeare beingwese a childkind, do you?
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Want mens dink nie
aan Shakespeare as ’n kind nie.
07:01
ShakespeareShakespeare beingwese sevensewe?
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Shakespeare op sewe?
07:02
I never thought of it.
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Nooit nie.
07:03
I mean, he was sevensewe at some pointpunt.
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He was in somebody'siemand is
EnglishEngels classklas, wasn'twas nie he?
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In iemand se Engelse klas.
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How annoyingirriterende would that be?
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Hoe irriterend moet dit nie wees nie?
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"MustMoet try harderharder."
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"Moet harder probeer."
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BeingWord sentgestuur to bedbed by his dadpa, you know,
to ShakespeareShakespeare, "Go to bedbed, now!
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Word bed toe gestuur deur sy pa,
"Klim in die bed, nou!
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And put the pencilpotlood down."
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"Een sit neer daai potlood."
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"And stop speakingpraat like that."
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"It's confusingverwarrend everybodyalmal."
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"Dit verwar almal."
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AnywayIn elk geval, we movedverskuif
from StratfordStratford to LosLos AngelesAngeles,
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In elk geval, ons't getrek
van Statford na Los Angeles,
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and I just want to say a wordwoord
about the transitionoorgang.
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en ek wil net iets sê oor die oorgang.
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My sonseun didn't want to come.
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My seun wou nie kom nie.
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I've got two kidskinders;
he's 21 now, my daughter'sdogter se 16.
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Ek't twee kinders.
Hy's nou 21; my dogter is 16.
Hy wou nie Los Angeles toe kom nie.
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He didn't want to come to LosLos AngelesAngeles.
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Hy was mal daaroor,
maar hy't ’n meisie in Engeland gehad.
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He lovedlief it, but he had
a girlfriendvriendin in EnglandEngeland.
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This was the love of his life, SarahSarah.
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Die liefde van sy lewe, Sarah.
08:08
He'dHy sou knownbekende her for a monthmaand.
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Hy't haar al ’n maand geken.
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MindGedagte you, they'dhulle wil had
theirhulle fourthvierde anniversaryherdenking,
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Maar hulle't al vier herdenkings gevier,
08:13
because it's a long time when you're 16.
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want dis ’n lang tyd op 16.
08:16
He was really upsetomgekrap on the planevliegtuig,
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Hy was ontsteld op die vlug,
hy't gesê: "Ek sal nooit weer
’n meisie soos Sarah kry nie."
08:18
he said, "I'll never find
another'n ander girlmeisie like SarahSarah."
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And we were rathereerder pleasedbly
about that, franklyeerlik --
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Ons was nogals opgemaak daaroor,
om die waarheid te sê --
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(LaughterLag)
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08:31
Because she was the mainhoof reasonrede
we were leavingverlaat the countryland.
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Sy was die hoofrede hoekom ons landuit is.
08:34
(LaughterLag)
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Maar iets tref jou
wanneer jy Amerika toe trek
08:40
But something strikesstakings you
when you moveskuif to AmericaAmerika
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en om die wêreld reis:
08:42
and travelreis around the worldwêreld:
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Elke opvoedingstelsel op aarde
het dieselfde hiërargie van vakke.
08:43
EveryElke educationonderwys systemstelsel on EarthAarde
has the samedieselfde hierarchyhiërargie of subjectsvakke.
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EveryElke one. Doesn't mattersaak where you go.
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Elke een.
Jy sou dink dis anders, maar nee.
08:49
You'dJy sou think it would be
otherwiseanders, but it isn't.
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Heel bo is wiskunde en tale,
08:51
At the topTop are mathematicswiskunde and languagestale,
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dan die wysbegeerte,
en heel onder is die kunste.
08:53
then the humanitiesgeesteswetenskappe,
and at the bottomonderkant are the artskuns.
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Orals op aarde.
08:56
EverywhereOral on EarthAarde.
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En in min of meer elke stelsel
is daar ook ’n hiërargie binne die kunste
08:57
And in prettymooi much everyelke systemstelsel too,
there's a hierarchyhiërargie withinbinne the artskuns.
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ArtKuns and musicmusiek are normallynormaalweg
givengegee a higherhoër statusstatus in schoolsskole
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Kuns en musiek kry gewoonlik
’n hoër status in skole
as drama en dans.
09:04
than dramadrama and dancedans.
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09:05
There isn't an educationonderwys
systemstelsel on the planetplaneet
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Daar's geen opvoedingstelsel
09:07
that teachesleer dancedans everydayelke dag to childrenkinders
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wat dans elke dag vir kinders leer
soos ons vir hulle wiskunde leer nie.
Hoekom?
09:09
the way we teachleer them mathematicswiskunde. Why?
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Hoekom nie? Ek dink dis nogal belangrik.
09:12
Why not? I think this is rathereerder importantbelangrik.
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09:15
I think mathwiskunde is very
importantbelangrik, but so is dancedans.
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Wiskunde is belangrik,
maar dans is ook.
Kinders dans baie as hulle mag,
ons almal doen dit.
09:17
ChildrenKinders dancedans all the time
if they're allowedtoegelaat to, we all do.
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Ons het almal liggame, of hoe?
Het ek ’n vergadering misgeloop?
09:20
We all have bodiesliggame, don't we?
Did I missmis a meetingvergadering?
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09:23
(LaughterLag)
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Wat waarlik gebeur is,
soos kinders grootword,
09:26
TruthfullyEerlik, what happensgebeur is,
as childrenkinders growgroei up,
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begin ons hulle geleidelik
van die middellyf af boontoe opvoed.
09:28
we startbegin to educateop te voed them progressivelyprogressief
from the waistmiddellyf up.
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En dan fokus ons op hulle koppe.
09:31
And then we focusfokus on theirhulle headskoppe.
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And slightlyeffens to one sidekant.
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En effens na een kant toe.
09:35
If you were to visitbesoek
educationonderwys, as an alienuitheemse,
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As jy opvoeding sou besoek,
as ’n ruimtewese,
09:38
and say "What's it for, publicopenbare educationonderwys?"
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en sê: "Waarvoor is openbare opvoeding?"
09:41
I think you'djy wil have to concludesluit,
if you look at the outputuitset,
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sou jy moes aflei
-- as jy kyk na die uitset,
wie behaal sukses hierdeur,
09:43
who really succeedsslaag by this,
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wie doen alles wat hulle moet,
09:45
who does everything that they should,
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09:47
who getskry all the browniepoeding
pointspunte, who are the winnerswenners --
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wie kry al die "brownie points",
wie is die wenners --
09:49
I think you'djy wil have to concludesluit
the wholehele purposedoel of publicopenbare educationonderwys
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sou jy moes aflei
dat die hele doel van openbare opvoeding
regoor die wêreld
09:53
throughoutregdeur the worldwêreld
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is om universiteitsprofessors te lewer.
09:54
is to produceproduseer universityuniversiteit professorsprofessore.
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09:56
Isn't it?
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Of hoe?
09:57
They're the people who come out the topTop.
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Hulle's die mense wat bo uitkom.
En ek was een, so vat so.
09:59
And I used to be one, so there.
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10:01
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
10:04
And I like universityuniversiteit
professorsprofessore, but you know,
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En ek hou van hulle,
maar julle weet,
10:07
we shouldn'tmoenie holdhou them up
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ons moet hulle nie as die hoogtepunt
10:09
as the high-waterhoë-water markmerk
of all humanmens achievementprestasie.
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van alle prestasie voorhou nie.
10:12
They're just a formvorm of life,
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Hulle's net ’n vorm van lewe,
10:14
another'n ander formvorm of life.
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nog ’n vorm van lewe.
10:15
But they're rathereerder curiousnuuskierig, and I say this
out of affectionliefde for them.
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Maar hulle's nogal vreemd,
en ek sê dit uit toegeneentheid.
Daar's iets vreemd omtrent hulle
in my ervaring --
10:18
There's something curiousnuuskierig
about professorsprofessore in my experienceervaring --
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nie almal nie, maar tipies,
lewe hulle in hul koppe.
10:21
not all of them, but typicallytipies,
they liveleef in theirhulle headskoppe.
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Hulle lewe daar bo,
en effens na een kant toe.
10:24
They liveleef up there,
and slightlyeffens to one sidekant.
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10:27
They're disembodiedliggaamlose, you know,
in a kindsoort of literalletterlike way.
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Hulle's ontliggaam, julle weet,
op ’n soortvan letterlike manier.
10:30
They look uponop theirhulle bodyliggaam as a formvorm
of transportvervoer for theirhulle headskoppe.
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Hulle sien hul liggame
as ’n vervoermiddel vir hul koppe.
10:34
(LaughterLag)
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10:40
Don't they?
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Of hoe?
10:41
It's a way of gettingkry
theirhulle headkop to meetingsvergaderings.
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Dis ’n manier om hulle koppe
by vergaderings te kry.
10:43
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
As julle ware bewys soek
van buiteliggaamlike ervarings,
10:49
If you want realwerklike evidencebewyse
of out-of-bodyout-of-liggaam experienceservarings,
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get yourselfjouself alongsaam to a residentialresidensiële
conferencekonferensie of seniorsenior academicsakademici,
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besoek ’n residensiële konferensie
van senior akademici,
10:56
and poppop into the discothequediskoteek
on the finalfinale night.
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en maak ’n draai by die sokkie
op die laaste aand.
10:58
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
En daar sal julle dit sien.
11:01
And there, you will see it.
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11:02
GrownGegroei menmans and womenvroue
writhingkrul uncontrollablyonbeheersd, off the beatklop.
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Volwasse mans en vroue
wat ritmeloos wriemel.
11:07
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
11:09
WaitingWag tans untiltotdat it endseindig so they can
go home and writeskryf a paperpapier about it.
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In afwagting van die einde
om tuis ’n artikel daaroor te gaan skryf.
11:13
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
Ons opvoedingstelsel berus op die idee
van akademiese vaardigheid.
11:15
Our educationonderwys systemstelsel is predicatedberus
on the ideaidee of academicakademiese abilityvermoë.
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11:19
And there's a reasonrede.
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En daar's ’n rede daarvoor.
11:20
Around the worldwêreld, there were
no publicopenbare systemsstelsels of educationonderwys,
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Regoor die wêreld was daar
geen openbare opvoedingstelsels
11:23
really, before the 19thste centuryeeu.
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voor die 19de eeu nie.
11:26
They all camekom into beingwese
to meetOntmoet the needsbehoeftes of industrialismindustrialisme.
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Hulle't almal tot wording gekom om
in die behoeftes van industrialisme te voorsien.
11:29
So the hierarchyhiërargie is rootedgewortel on two ideasidees.
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Die hierargie is gewortel in twee idees.
11:31
NumberNommer one, that the mostdie meeste usefulnuttige
subjectsvakke for work are at the topTop.
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Een, dat die mees nuttige vakke
vir werk heel bo is.
11:36
So you were
probablywaarskynlik steeredgelei benignlybenignly away
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So op skool is jy waarskynlik
goedgunstiglik van
11:38
from things at schoolskool when you
were a kidkind, things you likedhou,
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goed waarvan jy gehou het weggestuur,
op grond daarvan dat jy nooit
’n werk daardeur sou kry nie. Nè?
11:41
on the groundsgronde that you would
never get a jobwerk doing that. Is that right?
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Nie musiek nie,
jy sal nie ’n musikant word nie;
11:44
Don't do musicmusiek, you're not
going to be a musicianmusikant;
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nie kuns nie,
jy sal nie ’n kunstenaar word nie.
11:46
don't do artkuns, you won'tsal nie be an artistkunstenaar.
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Goedgunstige advies --
nou, uiters verkeerd.
11:48
BenignBenigne adviceadvies -- now, profoundlydiep mistakenverwar.
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11:52
The wholehele worldwêreld
is engulfedverswelg in a revolutionrevolusie.
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Die hele wêreld is verswelg
in ’n rewolusie.
11:54
And the secondtweede is academicakademiese abilityvermoë,
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En die tweede is akademiese vaardigheid,
11:56
whichwatter has really come to dominateoorheers
our viewbeskou of intelligenceintelligensie,
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wat ons idee
van intelligensie oorskadu,
omdat die universiteite die stelsel
na hul eie beeld ontwerp het.
11:59
because the universitiesuniversiteite designedontwerp
the systemstelsel in theirhulle imagebeeld.
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Die hele stelsel regoor die wêreld
12:02
If you think of it, the wholehele systemstelsel
of publicopenbare educationonderwys around the worldwêreld
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is ’n uitgerekte proses
van universiteitstoelating.
12:05
is a protracteduitgerekte processproses
of universityuniversiteit entranceingang.
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En die gevolg is dat
baie uiters talentvolle,
12:08
And the consequencegevolg
is that manybaie highly-talentedhoogs talentvolle,
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briljante, kreatiewe mense
dink dat hulle nie is nie,
12:10
brilliantbriljant, creativekreatiewe
people think they're not,
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12:12
because the thing
they were good at at schoolskool
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omdat dit waarin
hulle goed was op skool
nie waardeer is nie,
of selfs gestigmatiseer is.
12:15
wasn'twas nie valuedgewaardeer,
or was actuallyeintlik stigmatizedgestigmatiseer.
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12:17
And I think we can't affordbekostig
to go on that way.
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En ons kan bekostig
om so voort te gaan nie.
In die volgende 30 jaar, volgens UNESCO,
12:19
In the nextvolgende 30 yearsjaar, accordingvolgens to UNESCOUNESCO,
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gaan meer mense wêreldwyd
deur opvoeding gradueer
12:22
more people worldwidewêreldwyd will be graduatinggradueer
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12:25
throughdeur educationonderwys
than sinceaangesien the beginningbegin of historygeskiedenis.
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as sedert die begin van geskiedenis.
12:27
More people, and it's the combinationkombinasie
of all the things we'veons het talkedgepraat about --
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En dis die kombinasie
van al ons temas --
tegnologie en hoe dit
werk getransformeer het,
12:31
technologytegnologie and its transformationtransformasie
effecteffek on work, and demographydemografie
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en demografie
en die massiewe bevolkingsontploffing.
12:34
and the hugegroot explosionontploffing in populationbevolking.
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12:36
SuddenlySkielik, degreesgrade aren'tis nie worthdie moeite werd anything.
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Skielik is grade niks werd nie.
12:39
Isn't that truewaar?
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Nie waar nie?
12:40
When I was a studentstudent,
if you had a degreegraad, you had a jobwerk.
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Toe ek ’n student was,
het jy met ’n graad ’n werk gehad.
12:43
If you didn't have a jobwerk,
it's because you didn't want one.
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As jy nie ’n werk gehad het nie,
wou jy nie een hê nie.
12:46
And I didn't want one, franklyeerlik. (LaughterLag)
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En ek wou nie een hê nie,
om die waarheid te sê. (Gelag)
12:49
But now kidskinders with degreesgrade
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Maar deesdae is kinders met grade
12:53
are oftendikwels headingopskrif home
to carrydra on playingspeel videovideo gamesspeletjies,
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gereeld oppad huis toe om verder
te gaan TV speletjies speel,
12:56
because you need an MAMA where
the previousvorige jobwerk requiredvereis a BABA,
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omdat jy ’n MA nodig het
waar ’n BA voorheen voldoende was,
en ’n PhD vir die volgende een.
12:59
and now you need a PhDPhD for the other.
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Dis ’n proses van akademiese inflasie.
13:01
It's a processproses of academicakademiese inflationinflasie.
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13:03
And it indicatesdui the wholehele
structurestruktuur of educationonderwys
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Die hele struktuur van opvoeding
is besig om onder ons te skuif.
13:05
is shiftingverskuiwing beneathonder our feetvoete.
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Ons moet ons siening
van intelligensie hersien.
13:06
We need to radicallyradikaal rethinkheroorweging
our viewbeskou of intelligenceintelligensie.
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Ons weet drie dinge.
13:09
We know threedrie things about intelligenceintelligensie.
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Een, dis divers.
13:11
One, it's diversediverse.
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Ons dink oor die wêreld op al die maniere
wat ons dit ervaar.
13:12
We think about the worldwêreld in all the waysmaniere
that we experienceervaring it.
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Ons dink visueel, ons dink in klank,
ons dink kineties.
13:15
We think visuallyvisueel, we think in soundklink,
we think kinestheticallykineties.
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Ons dink in abstrakte terme,
ons dink in beweging.
13:18
We think in abstractabstrakte termsterme,
we think in movementbeweging.
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Tweedens, intelligensie is dinamies.
13:21
SecondlyTweedens, intelligenceintelligensie is dynamicdinamies.
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13:23
If you look at the interactionsinteraksies
of a humanmens brainbrein,
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Kyk na die interaksies
van ’n menslike brein:
13:26
as we heardgehoor yesterdaygister
from a numberaantal of presentationsaanbiedings,
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soos ons gister tydens
heelwat aanbiedings gehoor het,
13:29
intelligenceintelligensie is wonderfullywonderlik interactiveinteraktiewe.
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is intelligensie wonderlik interaktief.
13:31
The brainbrein isn't dividedverdeel into compartmentskompartemente.
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Die brein is nie opgedeel
in kompartemente nie.
13:33
In factfeit, creativitykreatiwiteit --
whichwatter I definedefinieer as the processproses
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Inderwaarheid, is kreatiwiteit --
wat ek definieer as die proses
van oorspronklike idees met waarde hê --
13:37
of havingmet originaloorspronklike ideasidees
that have valuewaarde --
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13:39
more oftendikwels than not comeskom about
throughdeur the interactioninteraksie
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gewoonlik iets wat gebeur
deur die interaksie
13:42
of differentverskillende disciplinarydissiplinêre
waysmaniere of seeingsien things.
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van verskillende maniere van dinge sien.
Daar's ’n senuweebundel wat
die twee helftes van die brein verbind:
13:46
By the way, there's a shaftskag of nervessenuwees
that joinssluit aan by the two halveshelftes of the brainbrein
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13:50
calledgenoem the corpuscorpus callosumcallosum.
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die corpus callosum.
Dis dikker by vroue.
13:51
It's thickerdikker in womenvroue.
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13:53
FollowingVolg off from HelenHelen yesterdaygister,
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Om aan te sluit by Helen gister:
13:54
this is probablywaarskynlik why womenvroue
are better at multi-taskingmulti-tasking.
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Dis waarskynlik hoekom vroue
beter is met "multi-tasking".
13:58
Because you are, aren'tis nie you?
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Want julle is mos, nè?
13:59
There's a raftvlot of researchnavorsing,
but I know it from my personalpersoonlike life.
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Daar's baie navorsing,
maar ek ervaar dit persoonlik.
14:03
If my wifevrou is cookingkook a mealmaaltyd at home --
whichwatter is not oftendikwels, thankfullygelukkig.
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As my vrou tuis iets kook --
nie gereeld nie, dankie tog.
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(Gelag)
14:11
No, she's good at some things,
but if she's cookingkook,
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Nee, sy's goed met sommige dinge --
maar as sy kook,
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she's dealinghantering with people on the phonefoon,
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hanteer sy foonoproepe,
praat sy met die kinders,
verf sy die plafon.
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she's talkingpraat to the kidskinders,
she's paintingskildery the ceilingplafon,
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she's doing open-heartope hart surgerychirurgie over here.
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Sy doen ’n oophart-operasie hier.
14:22
If I'm cookingkook, the doordeur
is shutgesluit, the kidskinders are out,
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As ek kook, is die deur toe,
die kinders is uit,
14:25
the phone'stelefoon se on the hookhaak,
if she comeskom in I get annoyedvererg.
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die foon is op die mik,
as sy inkom raak ek geïrriteerd.
14:28
I say, "TerryTerry, please,
I'm tryingprobeer to frybraai an eggeier in here."
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Ek sê: "Terry, asseblief,
ek probeer ’n eier bak hier."
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(Gelag)
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"Give me a breakbreek."
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"Gee my tog ’n kans."
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(Gelag)
14:41
ActuallyEintlik, do you know
that oldou philosophicalfilosofiese thing,
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Ken julle daai ou filosofiese ding,
14:43
if a treeboom fallsval in a forestbos
and nobodyniemand hearshoor it, did it happengebeur?
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as ’n boom in die bos val
en niemand hoor dit nie, het dit gebeur?
14:47
RememberOnthou that oldou chestnutkastanje?
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Onthou julle daai ou sê-ding?
14:48
I saw a great t-shirtt-hemp
recentlyonlangs, whichwatter said,
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Ek't onlangs ’n goeie T-hemp gesien:
14:51
"If a man speakspraat his mindgedagte
in a forestbos, and no womanvrou hearshoor him,
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"As ’n man homself uitspreek in ’n bos,
en geen vrou hoor hom nie,
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is he still wrongverkeerde?"
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is hy steeds verkeerd?"
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(Gelag)
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And the thirdderde thing about intelligenceintelligensie is,
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En die derde ding omtrent intelligensie is,
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it's distinctunieke.
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dis spesifiek.
15:07
I'm doing a newnuwe bookboek at the momentoomblik
calledgenoem "EpiphanyEpiphany,"
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Ek skryf tans aan ’n nuwe boek
-- "Epiphany" --
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whichwatter is basedgebaseer on a seriesreeks
of interviewsonderhoude with people
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gebaseer op ’n reeks onderhoude met mense
oor hoe hulle hul talent ontdek het.
15:12
about how they discoveredontdek theirhulle talenttalent.
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Dis fassinerend hoe mense
daar uitgekom het.
15:14
I'm fascinatedgefassineer
by how people got to be there.
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15:16
It's really promptedgevra by a conversationgesprek
I had with a wonderfulwonderlik womanvrou
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Dis aangespoor deur ’n gesprek
met ’n wonderlike vrou
wat baie mense nie ken nie,
Gillian Lynne.
15:20
who maybe mostdie meeste people
have never heardgehoor of, GillianHenning LynneLYNNE.
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Al gehoor? Sommige het.
15:22
Have you heardgehoor of her? Some have.
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Sy's ’n choreograaf;
almal ken haar werk.
15:24
She's a choreographerchoreograaf,
and everybodyalmal knowsweet her work.
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Sy't "Cats" en
"Phantom of the Opera" gedoen.
15:27
She did "CatsKatte" and "PhantomPhantom of the OperaOpera."
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Sy's wonderlik.
15:29
She's wonderfulwonderlik.
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Ek was van te vore raadslid
van die Koninklike Ballet,
15:30
I used to be on the boardraad
of The RoyalKoninklike BalletBallet,
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15:32
as you can see.
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soos julle kan sien.
15:33
AnywayIn elk geval, GillianHenning and I had
lunchmiddagete one day and I said,
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Ek't haar eendag gevra:
15:36
"How did you get to be a dancerdanser?"
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"Gillian, hoe't jy ’n danser geword?"
15:37
It was interestinginteressant.
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Dit was interessant.
15:39
When she was at schoolskool,
she was really hopelesshopeloos.
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Toe sy op skool was,
was sy rêrig hopeloos.
15:41
And the schoolskool, in the '30s,
wrotegeskryf to her parentsouers and said,
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En die skool, in die 30's,
skryf toe vir haar ouers:
"Ons dink Gillian het ’n leerprobleem."
15:45
"We think GillianHenning
has a learningleer disorderwanorde."
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Sy kon nie konsentreer nie,
sy't gevroetel.
15:47
She couldn'tkon nie concentratekonsentreer;
she was fidgetingvroetel.
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Ek dink deesdae sou hulle sê sy't AGHS.
Sou julle nie ook nie?
15:49
I think now they'dhulle wil say she had ADHDADHD.
Wouldn'tSou nie you?
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15:52
But this was the 1930s, and ADHDADHD
hadn'thet nie been inventeduitgevind at this pointpunt.
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Maar dit was die 1930's,
en aandagafleibaarheid was nog nie uitgedink nie.
15:56
It wasn'twas nie an availablebeskikbaar conditiontoestand.
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Dit was nie ’n beskikbare kwaal nie.
15:59
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
16:01
People weren'twas nie awarebewus they could have that.
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Mense was nie bewus
hulle kon daaraan ly nie.
16:03
(LaughterLag)
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(Gelag)
16:06
AnywayIn elk geval, she wenthet to see this specialistspesialis.
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In elk geval,
sy gaan sien toe ’n spesialis.
16:10
So, this oak-paneledEikenhouten roomkamer,
and she was there with her mothermoeder,
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So sy's in ’n eikepaneel kamer met haar ma
en sy't op ’n stoel se punt gaan sit,
16:14
and she was led and satza
on this chairstoel at the endeinde,
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16:16
and she satza on her handshande for 20 minutesminute
while this man talkedgepraat to her mothermoeder
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op haar hande vir 20 minute,
terwyl die man met haar ma praat
oor al die probleme
wat Gillian by die skool het.
16:20
about the problemsprobleme
GillianHenning was havingmet at schoolskool.
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16:22
Because she was disturbingontstellende people;
her homeworkhuiswerk was always latelaat; and so on,
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Want sy't ander ontwrig;
huiswerk altyd laat; ens. --
kleine kind van agt.
16:26
little kidkind of eightagt.
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Op die ou end, gaan sit die dokter
langs Gillian en sê:
16:27
In the endeinde, the doctordokter
wenthet and satza nextvolgende to GillianHenning, and said,
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16:30
"I've listenedgeluister to all these
things your mother'sma se told me,
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"Gillian, ek't nou geluister
na alles wat jou ma my vertel het,
16:33
I need to speakpraat to her privatelyprivaat.
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nou moet ek privaat met haar gesels.
16:34
Wait here. We'llOns sal be back;
we won'tsal nie be very long,"
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"Wag hier, ons is nou-nou terug."
16:37
and they wenthet and left her.
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En hulle't haar daar gelos.
16:39
But as they wenthet out of the roomkamer,
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Maar soos hulle uitgegaan het,
16:41
he turneddraai on the radioradio
that was sittingsit on his desklessenaar.
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het hy die radio op sy lessenaar aangesit.
16:44
And when they got out, he said to her
mothermoeder, "Just standstaan and watch her."
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En toe hulle uit is, sê hy vir haar ma:
"Hou haar net dop."
16:48
And the minuteminuut they left the roomkamer,
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En die oomblik toe hulle uit is,
16:51
she was on her feetvoete, movingbeweeg to the musicmusiek.
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was sy op haar voete,
bewegend op die maat van die musiek.
16:53
And they watchedgekyk for a fewpaar minutesminute
and he turneddraai to her mothermoeder and said,
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Hulle't vir ’n paar minute gekyk
en toe sê hy vir haar ma:
"Mev. Lynne, Gillian is nie siek nie;
sy's ’n danser.
16:57
"MrsMev. LynneLYNNE, GillianHenning
isn't sicksiek; she's a dancerdanser.
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17:01
Take her to a dancedans schoolskool."
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"Neem haar na ’n dansskool toe."
17:03
I said, "What happenedgebeur?"
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Ek vra: "En toe?"
17:05
She said, "She did. I can't tell you
how wonderfulwonderlik it was.
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"Sy het. Ek kan nie vir jou sê
hoe wonderlik dit was nie.
17:08
We walkedgestap in this roomkamer
and it was fullvolle of people like me.
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"Ons't in ’n kamer ingeloop
en dit was vol mense soos ek.
17:10
People who couldn'tkon nie sitsit still.
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"Mense wat nie kon stilsit nie.
17:13
People who had to moveskuif to think."
Who had to moveskuif to think.
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"Mense wat moes beweeg om te dink."
17:17
They did balletballet, they did tapkraan, jazzjazz;
they did modernmoderne; they did contemporarykontemporêre.
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Hulle't ballet gedoen, en tap, jazz
en moderne en kontemporêre dans.
17:21
She was eventuallyuiteindelik auditionedoudisie
for the RoyalKoninklike BalletBallet SchoolSkool;
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Sy't vir die Koninklike Ballet
oudisie gedoen;
’n solois geword;
’n wonderlike loopbaan daar gehad.
17:24
she becamegeword a soloistsolis; she had
a wonderfulwonderlik careerberoep at the RoyalKoninklike BalletBallet.
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Sy't gegradueer
van die Koninklike Balletskool,
17:27
She eventuallyuiteindelik graduatedgegradueer
from the RoyalKoninklike BalletBallet SchoolSkool,
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die Gillian Lynne Dance Company gestig,
17:30
foundedgestig the GillianHenning LynneLYNNE DanceDans CompanyMaatskappy,
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en Andrew Lloyd Weber ontmoet.
17:32
metontmoet AndrewAndrew LloydLloyd WebberWebber.
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Sy's verantwoordelik
17:33
She's been responsibleverantwoordelik for
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vir van die suksesvolste
musikale teater produksies ooit,
17:35
some of the mostdie meeste successfulsuksesvol
musicalmusikale theaterteater productionsproduksies in historygeskiedenis,
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sy't al aan miljoene plesier gegee,
en sy's ’n multi-millionêr.
17:38
she's givengegee pleasureplesier to millionsmiljoene,
and she's a multi-millionairemulti-miljoenêr.
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Iemand anders het haar dalk
op medikasie gesit en gesê om te kalmeer.
17:41
SomebodyIemand elseanders mightmag have put her
on medicationmedikasie and told her to calmkalm down.
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17:45
(ApplauseApplous)
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(Applous)
17:52
What I think it comeskom to is this:
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Waarop dit neerkom is dit:
Al Gore het die ander aand gepraat
17:54
AlAl GoreGore spokegepraat the other night
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oor ekologie en die rewolusie
wat ontketen is deur Rachel Carson.
17:56
about ecologyekologie and the revolutionrevolusie
that was triggeredveroorsaak by RachelRachel CarsonCarson.
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18:01
I believe our only hopehoop for the futuretoekoms
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Ek glo ons enigste hoop vir die toekoms
18:03
is to adoptneem a newnuwe conceptionbevrugting
of humanmens ecologyekologie,
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is om ’n nuwe idee van menslike ekologie
aan te neem,
18:07
one in whichwatter we startbegin
to reconstitutehersaamstel our conceptionbevrugting
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een waarin ons begin om ons konsep
van menslike kapasiteit
se rykdom te hersien.
18:10
of the richnessrykheid of humanmens capacitykapasiteit.
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18:12
Our educationonderwys systemstelsel has minedgemyn our mindsgedagtes
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Ons opvoedingstelsel het ons breine gemyn
18:15
in the way that we strip-minestrook-myn the earthaarde:
for a particularspesifieke commoditykommoditeit.
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soos ons die aarde stroopmyn:
vir ’n spesifieke kommoditeit.
18:19
And for the futuretoekoms, it won'tsal nie servedien us.
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En vir die toekoms,
sal dit ons nie dien nie.
18:21
We have to rethinkheroorweging
the fundamentalfundamentele principlesbeginsels
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Ons moet die fundamentele beginsels
18:24
on whichwatter we're educatingopvoeding our childrenkinders.
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waarmee ons ons kinders opvoed,
heroorweeg.
18:26
There was a wonderfulwonderlik quotekwotasie
by JonasJonas SalkSalk, who said,
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Jonas Salk het gesê:
18:28
"If all the insectsinsekte
were to disappearverdwyn from the EarthAarde,
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"As al die insekte
van die aarde af sou verdwyn,
18:33
withinbinne 50 yearsjaar all life
on EarthAarde would endeinde.
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sou alle lewe op aarde
binne 50 jaar uitsterf.
18:37
If all humanmens beingswesens
disappearedverdwyn from the EarthAarde,
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"As al die mense
van die aarde af sou verdwyn,
18:40
withinbinne 50 yearsjaar all formsvorms
of life would flourishfloreer."
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sou alle vorms van lewe
binne 50 jaar floreer."
18:44
And he's right.
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En hy's reg.
18:46
What TEDTED celebratesJarigen is the giftgeskenk
of the humanmens imaginationverbeelding.
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Wat TED vier is die skat
van die menselike verbeeldingsin.
18:50
We have to be carefulversigtig now
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Ons moet nou versigtig wees
18:52
that we use this giftgeskenk wiselyoordeelkundig
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dat ons dit met wysheid gebruik
18:54
and that we avertvoorkom some of the scenariosscenario's
that we'veons het talkedgepraat about.
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en dat ons van die senarios vermy
waaroor ons gepraat het.
18:58
And the only way we'llons sal do it is by seeingsien
our creativekreatiewe capacitieshoedanighede
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En die enigste manier
is om ons kreatiewe kapasiteite te sien
19:02
for the richnessrykheid they are
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vir die rykdom wat hulle is
19:03
and seeingsien our childrenkinders
for the hopehoop that they are.
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en ons kinders te sien
vir die hoop wat hulle is.
19:06
And our tasktaak is to educateop te voed
theirhulle wholehele beingwese,
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Ons opdrag is om
hulle hele wese op te voed,
om hierdie toekoms te kan trotseer.
19:09
so they can facegesig this futuretoekoms.
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19:10
By the way -- we maymag not see this futuretoekoms,
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Ons sien dalk nie
hierdie toekoms nie,
19:13
but they will.
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maar hulle sal.
19:14
And our jobwerk is to help them
make something of it.
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En ons plig is om hulle te help
om iets daarvan te maak.
19:17
Thank you very much.
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Baie dankie.
19:18
(ApplauseApplous)
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(Applous)
Translated by Ingrid Lezar
Reviewed by Christiaan Crafford

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Ken Robinson - Author/educator
Creativity expert Sir Ken Robinson challenges the way we're educating our children. He champions a radical rethink of our school systems, to cultivate creativity and acknowledge multiple types of intelligence.

Why you should listen

Why don't we get the best out of people? Sir Ken Robinson argues that it's because we've been educated to become good workers, rather than creative thinkers. Students with restless minds and bodies -- far from being cultivated for their energy and curiosity -- are ignored or even stigmatized, with terrible consequences. "We are educating people out of their creativity," Robinson says. It's a message with deep resonance. Robinson's TED Talk has been distributed widely around the Web since its release in June 2006. The most popular words framing blog posts on his talk? "Everyone should watch this."

A visionary cultural leader, Sir Ken led the British government's 1998 advisory committee on creative and cultural education, a massive inquiry into the significance of creativity in the educational system and the economy, and was knighted in 2003 for his achievements. His 2009 book, The Element: How Finding Your Passion Changes Everything, is a New York Times bestseller and has been translated into 21 languages. A 10th anniversary edition of his classic work on creativity and innovation, Out of Our Minds: Learning to be Creative, was published in 2011. His 2013 book, Finding Your Element: How to Discover Your Talents and Passions and Transform Your Life, is a practical guide that answers questions about finding your personal Element. In his latest book, Creative Schools: The Grassroots Revolution That’s Transforming Education, he argues for an end to our outmoded industrial educational system and proposes a highly personalized, organic approach that draws on today’s unprecedented technological and professional resources to engage all students.

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