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Rick Warren: A life of purpose
Рик Уорън за живота с цел
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Пасторът Рик Уорън, автор на ' Живот с цел', разсъждава върху собствената си целева криза в зората на изумителния успех на книгата си. Обяснява схващането си, че Божия умисъл е всеки от нас да използва талантите и влиянието си за добро.
Rick Warren - Pastor, author
Pastor Rick Warren is the author of The Purpose-Driven Life, which has sold more than 30 million copies worldwide. His has become an immensely influential voice seeking to apply the values of his faith to issues such as global poverty, HIV/AIDS and injustice. Full bio
Pastor Rick Warren is the author of The Purpose-Driven Life, which has sold more than 30 million copies worldwide. His has become an immensely influential voice seeking to apply the values of his faith to issues such as global poverty, HIV/AIDS and injustice. Full bio
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Често ме питат,
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I'm often asked,
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какво те изненадва в книгата?
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"What surprised you about the book?"
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И отговарям - това, че аз трябваше да я напиша
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And I say, "That I got to write it."
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Никога не бих си го представил,
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I would have never imagined that.
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дори и е най-дивите си мечти не съм си мислел -
00:36
Not in my wildest dreams did I think --
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дори не смятам себе си за автор.
00:38
I don't even consider
myself to be an author.
myself to be an author.
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И често ме питат,
00:42
And I'm often asked,
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Защо смяташ, че толкова много хора са я прочели?
00:44
"Why do you think so many
people have read this?
people have read this?
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This thing's selling still
about a million copies a month."
about a million copies a month."
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Тази книга все още се продава в почти милион копия всеки месец.
00:52
And I think it's because
spiritual emptiness
spiritual emptiness
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И мисля, че е така, защото духовната празнота
00:57
is a universal disease.
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всемирно заболяване.
00:59
I think inside at some point, we put
our heads down on the pillow and we go,
our heads down on the pillow and we go,
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Мисля, че вътре в себе си, в един момент лягаме на възглавницата и си казваме
"В живота трябва да има нещо повече от това."
01:03
"There's got to be more
to life than this."
to life than this."
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Ставаш сутрин, отиваш на работа, прибираш се и гледаш телевизия,
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Get up in the morning, go to work,
come home and watch TV,
come home and watch TV,
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лягаш си, ставаш сутрин, отиваш на работа, прибираш се, гледаш телевизия, лягаш си,
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go to bed, get up in the morning, go
to work, come home, watch TV, go to bed,
to work, come home, watch TV, go to bed,
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през уикенда ходиш на партита.
01:12
go to parties on weekends.
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Много хора казват "Аз живея." Не, не живееш - това е просто съществуване.
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A lot of people say, "I'm living." No,
you're not living -- that's just existing.
you're not living -- that's just existing.
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Просто съществуване.
01:19
Just existing.
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Наистина мисля, че съществува този вътрешен стремеж.
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I really think that
there's this inner desire.
there's this inner desire.
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Вярвам в това, което каза Исус. Вярвам, че не си случайност.
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I do believe what Chris said;
I believe that you're not an accident.
I believe that you're not an accident.
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Може родителите ти да не са те планували, но вярвам, че Бог те е планувал.
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Your parents may not have planned you,
but I believe God did.
but I believe God did.
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Мисля, че има случайни родител, няма спор за това.
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I think there are accidental parents;
there's no doubt about that.
there's no doubt about that.
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Не смятам, че има случайни деца.
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I don't think there are accidental kids.
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And I think you matter.
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И мисля, че ти си значим.
Мисля, че си значим за Бог, мисля, че си значим за историята,
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I think you matter to God;
I think you matter to history;
I think you matter to history;
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И мисля, че си значим за вселената.
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I think you matter to this universe.
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And I think that the difference
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И мисля, че разликата между това,
01:52
between what I call the survival level
of living, the success level of living,
of living, the success level of living,
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което наричам преживяващо ниво на живот, успешно ниво на живот
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and the significance level of living is:
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значимо ниво на живот е,
01:59
Do you figure out,
"What on Earth am I here for?"
"What on Earth am I here for?"
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дали разбираш за какво изобщо си тук.
Срещам много хора, които са много умни
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I meet a lot of people who are very smart,
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and say, "But why can't I
figure out my problems?"
figure out my problems?"
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и казват "Но защо не мога да си реша проблемите?"
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And I meet a lot of people
who are very successful,
who are very successful,
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И срещам доста хора, които са много успешни,
които казват "Защо не се чувствам по-удовлетворен?
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who say, "Why don't I feel more fulfilled?
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Защо се чувствам като изкуствен?
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Why do I feel like a fake?
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02:17
Why do I feel like I've got to pretend
that I'm more than I really am?"
that I'm more than I really am?"
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Защо се чувствам, че трябва да
се преструвам, че съм повече от колкото в същност съм?"
Мисля, че това се свежда до въпроса за значението, значимостта и целта.
02:23
I think that comes down to this issue
of meaning, of significance, of purpose.
of meaning, of significance, of purpose.
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02:27
I think it comes down to this issue of:
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Мисля, че се свежда до въпроса
защо съм тук? За какво съм тук? На къде отивам?
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"Why am I here? What am I here for?
Where am I going?"
Where am I going?"
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Това не са религиозни въпроси -
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These are not religious issues.
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това са човешки въпроси.
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They're human issues.
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I wanted to tell Michael before he spoke
that I really appreciate what he does,
that I really appreciate what he does,
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Исках да кажа на Майкъл преди речта му,
че наистина оценявам това, което прави,
02:44
because it makes my life work
a whole lot easier.
a whole lot easier.
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защото то много улеснява живота ми.
Като пастор, срещам много чешити.
02:47
As a pastor, I do see a lot of kooks.
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И съм научил, че има чешити във всяка област на живота.
02:51
And I have learned that there are
kooks in every area of life.
kooks in every area of life.
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Религията няма
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Religion doesn't have a monopoly on that,
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монопол върху това, но има доста религиозни чешири.
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but there are plenty of religious kooks.
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There are secular kooks;
there are smart kooks, dumb kooks.
there are smart kooks, dumb kooks.
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Има светски чешити, умни чешити, глупави чешити.
Има хора - една дама дойде при мен онзи ден,
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There are people -- a lady
came up to me the other day,
came up to me the other day,
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и носеше бял лист хартия - Майкъл, това ще ти хареса -
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and she had a white piece of paper --
Michael, you'll like this one --
Michael, you'll like this one --
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и каза "Какво виждаш на листа?"
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and she said, "What do you see in it?"
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Погледнах го и казах "О, нищо не виждам."
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And I looked at it and I said,
"Oh, I don't see anything."
"Oh, I don't see anything."
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А тя - "Ами аз виждам Исус" - разплака се и си тръгна.
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And she goes, "Well, I see Jesus,"
and started crying and left.
and started crying and left.
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И аз казвам ОК, добре.
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I'm going, "OK," you know? "Fine."
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Хм.
03:23
(Laughter)
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Радвам се за теб.
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Good for you.
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Когато книгата стана най-продаваната книга в света за последните 3 години,
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When the book became the best-selling book
in the world for the last three years,
in the world for the last three years,
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преживях една моя си малка криза.
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I kind of had my little crisis.
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А именно - каква е целта на това?
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And that was: What is the purpose of this?
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Because it brought in
enormous amounts of money.
enormous amounts of money.
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Защото донесе огромно количество пари.
Когато напишеш най-продаваната книга на света,
03:43
When you write the best-selling
book in the world,
book in the world,
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това носи тонове и тонове пари.
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it's tons and tons of money.
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And it brought in a lot of attention,
neither of which I wanted.
neither of which I wanted.
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Това донесе и много внимание, а аз не исках никое от тези неща.
Когато започнах църквата Седълбек, бях на 25.
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When I started Saddleback Church,
I was 25 years old.
I was 25 years old.
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I started it with
one other family in 1980.
one other family in 1980.
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Започнах я с още едно семейство през 1980.
И реших, че никога няма да излизам пред телевизията,
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And I decided that I was never
going to go on TV,
going to go on TV,
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04:03
because I didn't want to be a celebrity.
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защото не исках да съм знаменитост.
Не исках да съм, цитирам, "евангелист, телевангелист" -
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I didn't want to be a, quote,
"evangelist, televangelist" --
"evangelist, televangelist" --
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това не е за мен.
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that's not my thing.
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And all of the sudden, it brought a lot
of money and a lot of attention.
of money and a lot of attention.
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И изведнъж това донесе много пари и много внимание.
Не мисля -
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I don't think --
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now, this is a worldview,
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вижте, това е светоглед - и ще ви кажа, всеки има светоглед.
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and I will tell you,
everybody's got a worldview.
everybody's got a worldview.
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Всеки си залага живота на нещо.
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Everybody's betting
their life on something.
their life on something.
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Залагаш си живота на нещо,
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You're betting your life on something,
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просто е добре да знаеш защо залагаш на това, на което залагаш.
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you just better know why
you're betting what you're betting on.
you're betting what you're betting on.
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И така, всеки залага живота си на нещо,
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So, everybody's betting
their life on something.
their life on something.
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And when I, you know, made a bet,
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и когато аз заложих - повярвах,
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I happened to believe
that Jesus was who he said he was.
that Jesus was who he said he was.
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че Исус беше този, който твърдеше че беше.
Но всеки - и вярвам, че има болшинство
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And I believe in a pluralistic society,
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всеки залага на нещо.
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everybody's betting on something.
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И когато започнах църквата,
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And when I started the church,
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you know, I had no plans
to do what it's doing now.
to do what it's doing now.
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знаете ли, нямах планове да правя това, което тя прави сега.
И когато написах тази книга,
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And then when I wrote this book,
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и изведнъж тя просто
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and all of a sudden, it just took off,
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излетя,
тогава си казах, каква е целта на това?
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and I started saying, now,
what's the purpose of this?
what's the purpose of this?
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Защото както казах,
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Because as I started to say,
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не мисля, че ти се дават пари или слава
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I don't think you're given money or fame
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заради егото ти, никога.
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for your own ego, ever.
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Просто не вярвам в това.
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I just don't believe that.
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И когато напишеш книга, чието първо изречение е
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And when you write a book
that the first sentence of the book is,
that the first sentence of the book is,
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"Не става въпрос за теб,"
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"It's not about you,"
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тогава, когато изведнъж
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then, when all of a sudden it becomes
the best-selling book in history,
the best-selling book in history,
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тя се превръща в най-продаваната книга в историята,
трябва да разбереш - е, предполагам не става въпрос за мен.
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you've got to figure, well,
I guess it's not about me.
I guess it's not about me.
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That's kind of a no-brainer.
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Това си е главоблъсканица.
Добре, и за какво?
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So, what is it for?
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And I began to think about what I call
the "stewardship of affluence"
the "stewardship of affluence"
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И започнах да мисля за това, което наричам изобилие
и влияние.
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and the "stewardship of influence."
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Така че аз вярвам, всъщност, че водачеството е служене.
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So I believe, essentially,
leadership is stewardship.
leadership is stewardship.
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05:39
That if you are a leader in any area --
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Че, ако си лидер в някоя област --
в бизнеса, в политиката, в спортовете, в изкуството,
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in business, in politics,
in sports, in art,
in sports, in art,
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в университета, във която и да е област --
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in academics, in any area --
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ти не я притежаваш,
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you don't own it.
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ти си и служител.
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You are a steward of it.
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For instance, that's why I believe
in protecting the environment.
in protecting the environment.
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Например, затова вярвам в запазването на околната среда.
Това не е моята планета. Не е била моя преди да се родя.
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This is not my planet.
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It wasn't mine before I was born,
it's not going to be mine after I die,
it's not going to be mine after I die,
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И няма да бъде моя и след като умра.
Аз съм тук само за 80 години и това е.
06:00
I'm just here for 80 years
and then that's it.
and then that's it.
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Аз дебатирах онзи ден в едно толк шоу,
06:03
I was debating
the other day on a talk show,
the other day on a talk show,
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и човека ме предизвикваше и казваше,
06:07
and the guy was challenging
me and he'd go,
me and he'd go,
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" Какво прави пастор, защитавайки околната среда?"
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"What's a pastor doing
on protecting the environment?"
on protecting the environment?"
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And I asked this guy, I said,
"Well, do you believe
"Well, do you believe
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И аз попитах този човек, казах, " Вярваш ли,
че хората са отговорни
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that human beings are responsible
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да направят света малко по-добро място за следващото поколение?
06:20
to make the world a little bit better
place for the next generation?
place for the next generation?
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Мислиш ли, че ние имаме да служим тук,
06:24
Do you think we have a stewardship here,
to take the environment seriously?"
to take the environment seriously?"
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да вземем околната среда на сериозно?"
И той каза, "Не."
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And he said, "No."
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Аз кзах, " О, не мислиш така?" Аз казах, " Нека да изясним това пак.
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I said, "Oh, you don't?"
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06:32
I said, "Let me make this clear again:
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Вярваш ли, че като човешки същества -- Не говоря за религия --
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Do you believe that as human beings --
I'm not talking about religion --
I'm not talking about religion --
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вярваш ли, че като човешки същества, е наша отговорност
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do you believe that as human beings,
it is our responsibility
it is our responsibility
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да се грижим за тази планета и да я направим малко по-добра за следващото поколение?"
06:41
to take care of this planet,
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and make it just a little bit better
for the next generation?"
for the next generation?"
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И той каза, "Не.
06:45
And he said, "No. Not any more
than any other species."
than any other species."
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Не повече от всеки друг вид."
Когато той каза думата " вид" , той разкри виждането си за света.
06:50
When he said the word "species,"
he was revealing his worldview.
he was revealing his worldview.
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И той казваше, " Аз не съм по-отговорен да се грижа за тази околна среда
06:54
And he was saying,
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"I'm no more responsible to take care
of this environment than a duck is."
of this environment than a duck is."
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отколкото е една патка."¥
07:00
Well now, I know a lot
of times we act like ducks,
of times we act like ducks,
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Значи сега, зная, че много пъти се държим като патки,
но ти не си патка.
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but you're not a duck.
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Ти не си патка.
07:05
You're not a duck.
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И ти си отговорен -- това е моето виждане.
07:07
And you are responsible --
that's my worldview.
that's my worldview.
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И така, трябва да разбереш твоя свят.
07:11
And so, you need to understand
what your worldview is.
what your worldview is.
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Проблемът е, че повечето хора никога не мислят за това.©
07:15
The problem is most people
never really think it through.
never really think it through.
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Наистина никога -- наистина никога
07:19
They never really ...
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07:23
codify it or qualify it or quantify it,
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не го систематизират, квалифицират или го измерват в количество,
и казват, " Това е в което вярвам.
07:27
and say, "This is what I believe in.
This is why I believe what I believe."
This is why I believe what I believe."
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Ето затова аз вярвам в това което вярвам."
Лично аз нямам достатъчно вяра да бъда атеист.
07:31
I don't personally have
enough faith to be an atheist.
enough faith to be an atheist.
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Но ти може и да имаш.
07:35
But you may, you may.
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07:38
Your worldview, though, does determine
everything else in your life,
everything else in your life,
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Твоето разбиране за света, обаче, наистина определя всичко в живота ти,
защото определя твоите решения,
07:42
because it determines your decisions;
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определя твоите отношения,
07:44
it determines your relationships;
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определя твоето ниво на увереност.
07:47
it determines your level of confidence.
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Определя, наистина, всичко в твоя живот.
07:50
It determines, really,
everything in your life.
everything in your life.
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Това в което вярваме, очевидно --
07:53
What we believe, obviously --
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07:55
and you know this --
determines our behavior,
determines our behavior,
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и вие знаете това -- определя нашето поведение,
07:57
and our behavior determines
what we become in life.
what we become in life.
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и нашето поведение определя това, което ставаме в живота.
08:03
So all of this money started pouring in,
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Така че всички тези пари започнаха да идват,
08:06
and all of this fame started pouring in.
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и цялата слава започна да идва,
08:10
And I'm going, what do I do with this?
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и аз се чудех какво да правя с това?
Жена ми аз първо взехме 5 решения какво да правим с парите.
08:13
My wife and I first made five decisions
on what to do with the money.
on what to do with the money.
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Казахме, "Първо,
08:18
We said, "First, we're not
going to use it on ourselves."
going to use it on ourselves."
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няма да ги ползваме за себе си."
Аз не отидох да си купя по- голяма къща.
08:22
I didn't go out and buy a bigger house.
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Не притежавам втора къща.
08:25
I don't own a guesthouse.
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08:26
I still drive the same four year-old
Ford that I've driven.
Ford that I've driven.
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Все още карам същия 4 годишен Форд, който карах.
08:30
We just said, we're not
going to use it on us.
going to use it on us.
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Казахме, няма да ги ползваме за нас.
Второто нещо беше,
08:33
The second thing was,
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Спрях да взимам заплата от черквата, в която бях пастор.
08:36
I stopped taking a salary
from the church that I pastor.
from the church that I pastor.
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Третото нещо е, сметнах колко общо ми е дала черквата през последните 25 години,
08:40
Third thing is, I added up
all that the church had paid me
all that the church had paid me
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08:43
over the last 25 years,
and I gave it back.
and I gave it back.
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и и ги върнах.
върнах ги , защото не исках да си мислят, че
08:46
And I gave it back because
I didn't want anybody thinking
I didn't want anybody thinking
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правя нещо заради пари -- не правя.
08:49
that I do what I do for money -- I don't.
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08:51
In fact, personally, I've never met
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Всъщност, лично, никога не съм срещал
поп или пастор, който го прави за пари.
08:55
a priest or a pastor or a minister
who does it for money.
who does it for money.
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Зная, че това е стереотип. Никога не съм срещал един от тях.
08:58
I know that's the stereotype;
I've never met one of them.
I've never met one of them.
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09:01
Believe me, there's a whole lot
easier ways to make money.
easier ways to make money.
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Повярвайте ми, има много по- лесни начини да се правят пари.
09:05
Pastors are like on 24 hours-a-day call,
they're like doctors.
they're like doctors.
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Поповете могат да бъдат повикани по всяко време. Те са като докторите.
Тръгнах си късно днес. Надявах се да бъда тук вчера,
09:09
I left late today -- I'd hoped
to be here yesterday --
to be here yesterday --
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защото моя свекър е в последните си, 48 часа
09:13
because my father-in-law
is in his last, probably, 48 hours
is in his last, probably, 48 hours
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преди да умре от рак.
09:16
before he dies of cancer.
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И аз гледам човек, който е живял живота си --
09:18
And I'm watching a guy
who's lived his life --
who's lived his life --
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09:21
he's now in his mid-80s --
and he's dying with peace.
and he's dying with peace.
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сега той е на около 80--
и умира в мир. Знаете ли, теста на вашите виждания
09:24
You know, the test of your worldview
is not how you act in the good times.
is not how you act in the good times.
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не е как реагирате в добри времена.
Теста на вашето виждане за света е как реагирате на погребението.
09:30
The test of your worldview
is how you act at the funeral.
is how you act at the funeral.
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И бидейки на буквално стотици, ако не хиляди погребения,
09:35
And having been through literally
hundreds if not thousands of funerals,
hundreds if not thousands of funerals,
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има разлика.
09:39
it makes a difference.
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Има значение това в което вярвате.
09:41
It makes a difference what you believe.
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Така, че ние ги върнахме всички,
09:44
So, we gave it all back,
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и после учредихме 3 фондации,
09:48
and then we set up three foundations,
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работейки по някои от основните световни проблеми :
09:51
working on some of the major
problems of the world:
problems of the world:
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неграмотност, бедност, пандемични болести -- особено СПИН --
09:53
illiteracy, poverty, pandemic diseases --
particularly HIV/AIDS --
particularly HIV/AIDS --
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и учредихме тези 3 фондации,
09:59
and set up these three foundations,
and put the money into that.
and put the money into that.
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и сложихме парите в тях.
Последното нещо, което направихме е това, което наричам " обърнати дарители".
10:03
The last thing we did is we became
what I call "reverse tithers."
what I call "reverse tithers."
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И това е, когато аз и жена ми сключихме брак
10:07
And that is, when my wife
and I got married 30 years ago,
and I got married 30 years ago,
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преди 30 години,
започнахме да даряваме
10:15
we started tithing.
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10:17
Now, that's a principle in the Bible
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Сега, това е принцип в библията
който казва, давайте 10 % от това което изкарвате, за благотворителност,
10:20
that says give 10 percent
of what you get back to charity,
of what you get back to charity,
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дарявайте го за да помагате на други хора.
10:23
give it away to help other people.
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10:25
So, we started doing that, and each year
we would raise our tithe one percent.
we would raise our tithe one percent.
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Така, че почнахме да правим това, и всяка година ние увеличавахме дарителството си с 1 %.
10:29
So, our first year of marriage
we went to 11 percent,
we went to 11 percent,
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Така, че първата ни година на брака ни стигнахме до 11 %,
втората година стигнахме до 12 %,
10:32
second year we went to 12 percent,
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и треатата година - до 13 %,
10:34
and the third year we went to 13 percent,
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10:36
and on and on and on.
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и така продължихме. Защо направих това?
10:39
Why did I do that?
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Защото всеки път, когато давам,
10:40
Because every time I give,
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това пречупва оковите на материализма в живота ми.
10:42
it breaks the grip
of materialism in my life.
of materialism in my life.
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Maтериализмът е изцяло изграден на получаването -- вземи, вземи, вземи, вземи всичко което можеш,
10:46
Materialism is all about getting --
get, get, get, get all you can,
get, get, get, get all you can,
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седни на това, което имаш и развали останалото.
10:50
can all you get, sit on the can
and spoil the rest.
and spoil the rest.
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Всичко е за това да имаш повече.
10:54
It's all about more, having more.
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И ние мислим, че стойностния живот се състои в това да изглеждаме добре.
10:58
And we think that the good life
is actually looking good --
is actually looking good --
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Това е най- важното от всичко -- да изглеждаме добре,
11:02
that's most important of all --
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11:04
looking good, feeling good
and having the goods.
and having the goods.
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да се чувстваме добре и да притежаваме неща.
Но това не е добрият живот.
11:08
But that's not the good life.
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Постоянно срещам хора, които имат тези неща,
11:10
I meet people all the time who have
those, and they're not necessarily happy.
those, and they're not necessarily happy.
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и те не са задължително щастливи.
Ако парите наистина ви правеха щастливи,
11:14
If money actually made you happy,
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11:17
then the wealthiest people
in the world would be the happiest.
in the world would be the happiest.
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тогава най- богатите хора в света щяха да са най- щастливи.
И това, аз лично знам, не е вярно.
11:19
And that I know, personally,
I know, is not true.
I know, is not true.
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11:22
It's just not true.
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Просто не е вярно.
11:25
So, the good life is not about looking
good, feeling good or having the goods,
good, feeling good or having the goods,
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Така, че добрият живот не в това да изглеждаме добре, да се чувстваме добре или да имаме блага,
11:28
it's about being good and doing good.
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той е когато сме добри и правим добро.
Да раздадеш твоя живот.
11:32
Giving your life away.
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Значението в живота не идва от статуса,
11:34
Significance in life
doesn't come from status,
doesn't come from status,
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защото винаги можеш да намериш някой, който има повече от теб.
11:38
because you can always find
somebody who's got more than you.
somebody who's got more than you.
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Не идва от секса.
11:41
It doesn't come from sex.
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11:42
It doesn't come from salary.
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Не идва от заплатата.
Идва от служенето.
11:45
It comes from serving.
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В раздаването на нашия живот ние намираме смисъл,
11:47
It is in giving our lives away
that we find meaning,
that we find meaning,
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намираме значение.
11:50
we find significance.
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11:52
That's the way we were wired,
I believe, by God.
I believe, by God.
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Това е начина по който сме били замислени, вярвам, от Бог.
11:57
And so we began to give away,
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И така ние започнахме да раздаваме,
12:00
and now after 30 years,
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и сега след 30 години,
12:02
my wife and I are reverse tithers --
we give away 90 percent and live on 10.
we give away 90 percent and live on 10.
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жена ми и аз сме обратни дарители -- ние даваме 90 % и живеем с останалите 10.
Това, всъщност, беше лесната част.
12:07
That, actually, was the easy part.
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12:08
The hard part is, what do I do
with all this attention?
with all this attention?
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Трудната част е, какво да правя с всичкото това внимание?
Защото започнах да получавам много видове покани.
12:12
Because I started getting
all kinds of invitations.
all kinds of invitations.
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Току-що приклюючи близо месечен тур, на който говорих
12:15
I just came off a nearly
month-long speaking tour
month-long speaking tour
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в 3 различни континента,
12:19
on three different continents,
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и няма да навлизам в подробности,
12:21
and I won't go into that,
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но беше невероятно нещо.
12:23
but it was an amazing thing.
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И се чудя, какво да правя с това,
12:26
And I'm going, what do I do
with this notoriety
with this notoriety
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тази известност, която книгата донесе?
12:30
that the book has brought?
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12:32
And, being a pastor,
I started reading the Bible.
I started reading the Bible.
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И бидейки пастор, започнах да чета Библията.
В Библията има глава наречена Псалм 72,
12:36
There's a chapter in the Bible
called Psalm 72,
called Psalm 72,
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и това е Соломоновата молитва.
12:39
and it's Solomon's prayer
for more influence.
for more influence.
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Когато прочетете тази молитва,
12:43
When you read this prayer,
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12:45
it sounds incredibly
selfish, self-centered.
selfish, self-centered.
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тя звучи невероятно егоистична.
звучи така,
той казва, " Боже, искам да ме направиш известен."
12:49
He says, "God, I want you
to make me famous."
to make me famous."
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Това е за което моли той.
12:51
That's what he prays.
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Той казва, " Искам да ме направиш известен.
12:53
He said, "I want you to make me famous.
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12:54
I want you to spread the fame
of my name through every land,
of my name through every land,
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Искам да съм известен по цялата земя,
Искам да ми дадеш сила,
12:57
I want you to give me power.
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Искам да ме направиш известен.
13:01
I want you to make me famous,
I want you to give me influence."
I want you to give me influence."
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Искам да ми дадеш влияние. "
13:04
And it just sounds like the most
egotistical request you could make,
egotistical request you could make,
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И просто звучи като най- егоистичната молба, която можеш да направиш
ако се молиш.
13:08
if you were going to pray.
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Докато не прочетеш целия псалм, цялата глава.
13:10
Until you read the whole psalm,
the whole chapter.
the whole chapter.
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И после той казва, " Така, че царя" --
13:13
And then he says,
"So that the king ..." --
"So that the king ..." --
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той бил царя на Израел по това време на върха на славата си --
13:15
he was the king of Israel
at that time, at its apex in power --
at that time, at its apex in power --
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" така, че царя да може да се грижи за вдовиците и сираците,
13:20
"... so that the king may care
for the widow and orphan,
for the widow and orphan,
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да подкрепя депресираните, да защитава незащитените, да се грижи за болните,
13:24
support the oppressed, defend
the defenseless, care for the sick,
the defenseless, care for the sick,
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да помага на бедните, да говори от името на чужденците,
13:28
assist the poor,
speak up for the foreigner,
speak up for the foreigner,
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13:32
those in prison."
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тези в затвора. "
13:34
Basically, he's talking about
all the marginalized in society.
all the marginalized in society.
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Основно, той говори за маргинализираните в обществото.
И като чета това,
13:37
And as I read that,
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Замислих се,
13:39
I looked at it, and I thought, you know,
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13:42
what this is saying is that the purpose
of influence is to speak up
of influence is to speak up
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че идеята на влиянието е да се защитават
тези които нямат влияние.
13:46
for those who have no influence.
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Целта на влиянието е не да увеличиш егото си,
13:50
The purpose of influence
is not to build your ego.
is not to build your ego.
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или стойността си.
13:55
Or your net worth.
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И, между другото, твоята стойност не равнозначна на
13:57
And, by the way, your net worth is not
the same thing as your self-worth.
the same thing as your self-worth.
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твоята вътрешна стойност.
14:00
Your value is not based on your valuables.
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Твоята стойност не се базира на твоите притежания,
14:06
It's based on a whole
different set of things.
different set of things.
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базира се на други неща.
14:08
And so the purpose
of influence is to speak up
of influence is to speak up
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И така, смисъла на влиянието е да представяш тези
които нямат влияние.
14:11
for those who have no influence.
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И трябваше да призная,
14:13
And I had to admit:
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Не можех да се сетя за последния път, когато мислех за вдовици и сираци.
14:15
I can't think of the last time
I thought of widows and orphans.
I thought of widows and orphans.
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Те не са ми в приоритетите.
14:18
They're not on my radar.
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Аз отговарям за черква в една от най-богатите области в Америка --
14:21
I pastor a church in one of the most
affluent areas of America --
affluent areas of America --
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много общини.
14:24
a bunch of gated communities.
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В моята черква е пълно с шефове и учени.
14:26
I have a church full
of CEOs and scientists.
of CEOs and scientists.
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И се минаваха 5 години и аз никога не отидох да видя бездомен човек.
14:30
And I could go five years and never,
ever see a homeless person.
ever see a homeless person.
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14:35
They're just not in my pathway.
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Те просто не са на пътя ми.
Сега, те са 13 мили нагоре по шосето в Санта ана.
14:37
Now, they're 13 miles
up the road in Santa Ana.
up the road in Santa Ana.
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14:41
So I had to say, ok,
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Така, че трябваше да кажа, "ОК,
14:44
I would use whatever affluence
and whatever influence I've got
and whatever influence I've got
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Бих използвал всякакво влияние и богатство, което имам
да помогна на тези, които нямат нито едно от тези. "
14:47
to help those who don't have
either of those.
either of those.
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Знаете, има история в Библията за Мойсей.
14:52
You know, there's a story
in the Bible about Moses,
in the Bible about Moses,
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Независимо дали вярвате в нея или не --
14:55
whether you believe it's true or not,
it really doesn't matter to me.
it really doesn't matter to me.
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за мен няма значение.
14:58
But Moses, if you saw the movie,
"The Ten Commandments,"
"The Ten Commandments,"
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Но Мойсей, ако сте гледали филма, " 10-те Божи заповеди, "
15:01
Moses goes out, and there's this
burning bush, and God talks to him,
burning bush, and God talks to him,
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Мойсей излиза, и там има горящ храст, и Бог му говори.
15:04
and God says,
"Moses, what's in your hand?"
"Moses, what's in your hand?"
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И Бог казва, " Мойсей,
какво има в ръката ти?"
Мисля, че това е един от най- важните въпроси, които ще ви бъдат зададени.
15:10
I think that's one of the most important
questions you'll ever be asked:
questions you'll ever be asked:
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Какво има в ръката ти?
15:14
What's in your hand?
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Мойсей казва, " Това е тояга.
15:16
Moses says, "It's a staff.
It's a shepherd's staff."
It's a shepherd's staff."
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Това е овчарска тояга."
15:21
And God says, "Throw it down."
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И Бог казва, "Хвърли я. "
15:22
And if you saw the movie, you know,
he throws it down and it becomes a snake.
he throws it down and it becomes a snake.
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И ако сте гледали филма, знаете, той я хвърля и тя става на змия.
И тогава Бог казва, " Вземи я. "
15:29
And then God says, "Pick it up."
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И той я взима отново,
15:32
And he picks it back up again,
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15:34
and it becomes a staff again.
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и тя става пак тояга.
Сега, чета това, и си мисля, за какво е всичко това?
15:37
Now, I'm reading this thing,
and I'm going, what is that all about?
and I'm going, what is that all about?
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ОК. За какво е всичко това? Значи, знам 2-3 неща.
15:41
OK. What's that all about? Well,
I do know a couple of things.
I do know a couple of things.
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Номер едно, Бог никога не прави чудо за да се покаже.
15:44
Number one, God never does
a miracle to show off.
a miracle to show off.
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Не е просто, "Уау, не е ли готино?"
15:48
It's not just, "Wow, isn't that cool?"
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И, между другото, моя Бог не трябва да се показва на хляб.
15:50
And, by the way, my God doesn't
have to show up on cheese bread.
have to show up on cheese bread.
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Знаете, ако Бог иска да се покаже,
15:53
You know, if God's going to show up,
he's not going to show up on cheese bread.
he's not going to show up on cheese bread.
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той няма да се покаже на хляб.
( Смях )
15:57
(Laughter)
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ОК? Просто, затова обичам това, което Майкъл прави,
15:59
Ok? I just, this is why I love
what Michael does,
what Michael does,
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16:01
because it's like, if he's debunking it,
then I don't have to.
then I don't have to.
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защото е като, ОК, ако той опровергава това, тогава аз не трябва да го правя.
16:06
But God -- my God --
doesn't show up on sprinkler images.
doesn't show up on sprinkler images.
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Но Бог -- моя Бог -- не се появява като образи от вода.
16:10
He's got a few more powerful ways
than that to do whatever he wants to do.
than that to do whatever he wants to do.
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Той има няколко по-мощни начини от това
да направи всичко, което иска да направи.
16:15
But he doesn't do miracles
just to show off.
just to show off.
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Но, той не прави чудеса просто за да се докаже.
Второто нещо е, ако Бог някога ви зададе въпрос,
16:18
Second thing is,
if God ever asks you a question,
if God ever asks you a question,
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Той вече знае отговора.
16:20
he already knows the answer.
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16:22
Obviously, if he's God,
then that would mean
then that would mean
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Очевидно, ако той е Бог, тогава ще означава
16:24
that when he asks the question,
it's for your benefit, not his.
it's for your benefit, not his.
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че ,когато Той пита въпроса, то е за твоя полза, не Негова.
Така че Той пита, " Какво има в ръката ти?"
16:28
So he's going, "What's in your hand?"
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Сега, какво имаше в ръката на Мойсей?
16:30
Now, what was in Moses' hand?
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16:32
Well, it was a shepherd's staff.
Now, follow me on this.
Now, follow me on this.
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Значи, имаше овчарска тояга. Сега, следете ме.
Тази тояга представлява 3 неща за живота на Мойсей.
16:36
This staff represented
three things about Moses' life.
three things about Moses' life.
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Първо, неговата идентичност.
16:39
First, it represented his identity;
he was a shepherd.
he was a shepherd.
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Той беше овчар. Тя е символ на неговата работа.
16:43
It's the symbol of his own occupation:
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Аз съм овчар. Символ на неговата идентичност, неговата кариера, неговата работа.
16:46
I am a shepherd.
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16:48
It's a symbol of his identity,
his career, his job.
his career, his job.
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Второ, тя е символ не само на неговата идентичност,
16:51
Second, it's a symbol
of not only his identity,
of not only his identity,
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но и на дохода му, защото всички активи са свързани с овцете.
16:54
it's a symbol of his income, because all
of his assets are tied up in sheep.
of his assets are tied up in sheep.
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В тези дни никой не е имал банкови сметки,
16:58
In those days, nobody had bank accounts,
or American Express cards, or hedge funds.
or American Express cards, or hedge funds.
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или Американ Експрес карти, или хедж фондове.
Твоите активи са свързани със стадата ти.
17:03
Your assets are tied up in your flocks.
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Така че е символ на неговата идентичност, и символ на неговия доход.
17:06
So it's a symbol of his identity,
and it's a symbol of his income.
and it's a symbol of his income.
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И третото нещо: тя е символ на влиянието му.
17:09
And the third thing:
it's a symbol of his influence.
it's a symbol of his influence.
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Какво правиш с овчарска тояга?
17:13
What do you do with a shepherd's staff?
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Ами, знаете, местите овце от точка А до точка Б с нея,
17:16
Well, you know, you move sheep
from point A to point B with it,
from point A to point B with it,
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с кука или с гега.
17:20
by hook or by crook.
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Дърпаш ги или ги удряш.
17:22
You pull them or you poke them.
One or the other.
One or the other.
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Така че Той казва,
17:26
So, he's saying,
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"Ти ще сложиш на земята твоята идентичност.
17:28
"You're going to lay down your identity.
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Какво има в ръката ти? Имаш идентичност, доход, влияние.
17:30
What's in your hand?
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17:31
You've got identity, you've got income,
you've got influence.
you've got influence.
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Какво е в ръката ти?"
17:34
What's in your hand?"
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и Той казва, " Ако я пуснеш на земята ще я съживя.
17:36
And he's saying, "If you lay it down,
I'll make it come alive.
I'll make it come alive.
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Ще направя неща, които не си и предполагал че са възможни. "
17:39
I'll do some things
you could never imagine possible."
you could never imagine possible."
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И ако сте гледали филма, " 10-те Божи заповеди. "
17:42
And if you've watched that movie,
"Ten Commandments,"
"Ten Commandments,"
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всички тези големи чудеса , които стават в Египет
17:44
all of those big miracles that happen
in Egypt are done through this staff.
in Egypt are done through this staff.
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са направени с тази тояга.
Миналата година, бях поканен да говоря на мача на звездите.
17:51
Last year, I was invited to speak
at the NBA All-Stars game.
at the NBA All-Stars game.
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17:56
And so, I'm talking to the players,
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И аз говоря на играчите,
18:00
because most of the NBA teams,
NFL teams and all the other teams
NFL teams and all the other teams
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защото повечето баскетболни тимове, хокейни тимове и всички други отбори
са направили тези 40 дни с Цел, базирано на книгата.
18:04
have done this 40 Days of Purpose,
based on the book.
based on the book.
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И ги попитах, казах , " Какво има в ръката ви?
18:07
And I asked them, I said,
"What's in your hand?
"What's in your hand?
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Казах, " Това е баскетболна топка,
18:12
So, what's in your hand?"
I said, "It's a basketball.
I said, "It's a basketball.
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и тази топка е вашата идентичност, това което сте вие.
18:16
And that basketball represents
your identity, who you are:
your identity, who you are:
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Ти си баскетболен играч. Представлява твоят доход.
18:20
you're an NBA player.
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18:21
It represents your income:
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Правиш много пари с тази топка.
18:23
you're making a lot of money
off that little ball.
off that little ball.
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И това е твоето влияние.
18:26
And it represents your influence.
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18:28
And even though you're only going
to be in the NBA for a few years,
to be in the NBA for a few years,
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И дори това , че ще си в НБА само няколко години,
18:31
you're going to be an NBA player
for the rest of your life.
for the rest of your life.
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ти ще си НБА играч до края на живота ти.
И това ти дава огромно влияние.
18:34
And that gives you enormous influence.
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Така, че какво ще направиш с това което ти е било дадено?"
18:37
So, what are you going to do
with what you've been given?"
with what you've been given?"
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И предполгам, че това е главната причина да дойда тук днес,
18:41
And I guess that's the main reason
I came up here today,
I came up here today,
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при всички умни хора в ТЕД,
18:46
to all of you very bright people at TED --
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да кажа, " Какво има в ръката ви?"
18:49
it is to say, "What's in your hand?"
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Какво имате от това, което ви е било дадено?
18:53
What do you have that you've been given?
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18:57
Talent, background, education,
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Талант, минали събития, образование,
19:01
freedom, networks, opportunities,
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свобода, мрежи, възможности,
богатство, идеи, креативност.
19:05
wealth, ideas, creativity.
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19:08
What are you doing
with what you've been given?
with what you've been given?
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Какво правите
с това , което ви е дадено?
19:12
That, to me, is the primary
question about life.
question about life.
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Това, за мен, е главния въпрос в живота.
19:16
That, to me, is what being
purpose-driven is all about.
purpose-driven is all about.
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Това, за мен, е да си движен от цел.
19:20
In the book, I talk about
how you're wired to do certain things,
how you're wired to do certain things,
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В книгата говоря как са ви програмирали да правите определени неща, как сте оформени.
19:24
you're "SHAPED" with -- a little acrostic:
Spiritual gifts, Heart,
Spiritual gifts, Heart,
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този малък кръст изисква духовни дарове, сърце,
19:27
Ability, Personality and Experiences.
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способност, личност и опит.
Тези неща ви оформят.
19:30
These things shape you.
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И ако искате да знаете какво трябва да правите в живота си,
19:32
And if you want to know what you ought
to be doing with your life,
to be doing with your life,
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трябва да погледнета формата си. За какво съм предназначен да правя?
19:35
you need to look at your shape --
"What am I wired to do?"
"What am I wired to do?"
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Защо Бог би ви задал модели на поведение
19:38
Why would God wire you to do something
and then not have you do it?
and then not have you do it?
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и след това да не ги правите?
Ако сте планиран за антрополог , ще бъдете антрополог.
19:41
If you're wired to be an anthropologist,
you'll be an anthropologist.
you'll be an anthropologist.
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Ако сте планиран да бъдете подводен изследовател,
19:44
If you're wired to be
an undersea explorer,
an undersea explorer,
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ще бъдете такъв.
19:46
you'll be an undersea explorer.
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Ако сте планиран да правите сделки, правите сделки.
19:48
If you're wired to make deals,
you make deals.
you make deals.
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Ако сте планиран да рисувате, рисувате.
19:50
If you're wired to paint, you paint.
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Знаете ли, че Бог се усмихва когато вие сте себе си?
19:53
Did you know that God smiles
when you be you?
when you be you?
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Когато моите малки деца бяха малки --
19:57
When my little kids --
when my kids were little --
when my kids were little --
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19:59
they're all grown now, I have grandkids --
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сега пораснаха, сега имам внуци --
Ходех и сядах на ръба на леглата им,
20:01
I used to go in and sit
on the side of their bed,
on the side of their bed,
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и ги гледах как спяха.
20:04
and I used to watch my kids sleep.
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И просто гледах техните малки телца как се издигат и снижават,
20:07
And I just watched their little bodies
rise and lower, rise and lower.
rise and lower, rise and lower.
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издигат и снижават.
20:12
And I would look at them:
"This is not an accident."
"This is not an accident."
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И ги гледах, това не е случайност.
Издигат и снижават.
20:15
Rise and lower.
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И се радвах просто да ги гледам как спят.
20:18
And I got joy out of just
watching them sleep.
watching them sleep.
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20:24
Some people have the misguided idea
that God only gets excited
that God only gets excited
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Някои хора имат грешната идея, че Бог се радва
само когато вършите "духовни неща, "
20:27
when you're doing, quote,
"spiritual things,"
"spiritual things,"
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като ходене на черква или помагане на бедните,
20:29
like going to church or helping the poor,
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или, знаете, признавайки или такива неща.
20:32
or, you know, confessing
or doing something like that.
or doing something like that.
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Извода е, че Бог се радва когато вие сте себе си. Защо?
20:36
The bottom line is, God gets pleasure
watching you be you.
watching you be you.
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20:40
Why? He made you.
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Той ви е създал. И когато правите това за което сте създадени,
20:42
And when you do what you were made to do,
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Той казва, " Това е моето момче.
20:45
he goes, "That's my boy! That's my girl!
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Това е моето момиче.
Използваш таланта и възможностите, които съм ти дал."
20:49
You're using the talent
and ability that I gave you."
and ability that I gave you."
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Така че, моят съвет към вас е,
20:53
So my advice to you is:
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погледнете това, което е в ръката ви -
20:55
look at what's in your hand --
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вашата самоличност, влияние и приходи
20:57
your identity, your influence,
your income --
your income --
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и кажете, " Не е свързано с мен.
21:01
and say, "It's not about me.
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А за това да направим света по-добро място. "
21:04
It's about making the world
a better place."
a better place."
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Благодаря ви.
21:08
Thank you.
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Rick Warren - Pastor, authorPastor Rick Warren is the author of The Purpose-Driven Life, which has sold more than 30 million copies worldwide. His has become an immensely influential voice seeking to apply the values of his faith to issues such as global poverty, HIV/AIDS and injustice.
Why you should listen
Pastor Rick Warren is one of the world's most influential Christians. His Saddleback Church, founded in 1980, boasts a congregation of 22,000, and his Purpose-Driven Life is one of the best-selling books of all time. Warren's mission is to attack what he calls the five "Global Goliaths" -- spiritual emptiness, egocentric leadership, extreme poverty, pandemic disease, and illiteracy and poor education.
He teaches that doing good is the only way humans create significance in our lives. He and his wife famously became "reverse tithers," donating 90 percent of their considerable fortune to philanthropic causes. Warren is particularly passionate about fighting AIDS, and in 2006, his church hosted the second annual Global Summit on AIDS and the Church, attended by US Senator Barack Obama, among others (controversial within the evangelical movement, because Obama is pro-choice).
In recent years, Warren has become a prominent steward of social justice, speaking out on poverty relief and encouraging spiritual leaders to play a role in guiding the planet toward sustainability. (He even attended the premiere of An Inconvenient Truth, after meeting Al Gore and producer Lawrence Bender at TED2006.)
Given his global focus and considerable platform, Warren has become a sought-after advisor to world leaders, speaking at the United Nations, the World Economic Forum and the Council on Foreign Relations. His involvement in the 2008 Presidential election sparked controversy and praise from both sides; during the campaign trail, he hosted candidates John McCain and Barack Obama at Saddleback Church for a forum on moral issues. It was the first time McCain and Obama appeared together publicly as presidential candidates. When Barack Obama was later elected to office, he asked Warren to give the invocation at his inauguration.
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