ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Elizabeth Lesser - Wellness specialist
Elizabeth Lesser helps her readers and students transform their lives after brushes with pain, adversity and life's myriad problems.

Why you should listen

Elizabeth Lesser is a bestselling author and the cofounder of Omega Institute, the renowned conference and retreat center located in Rhinebeck, New York. Lesser's first book, The Seeker's Guide, chronicles her years at Omega and distills lessons learned into a potent guide for growth and healing. Her New York Times bestselling book, Broken Open: How Difficult Times Can Help Us Grow (Random House), has sold more than 300,000 copies and has been translated into 20 languages. Her latest book, Marrow: A Love Story (Harper Collins/September 2016), is a memoir about Elizabeth and her younger sister, Maggie, and the process they went through when Elizabeth was the donor for Maggie’s bone marrow transplant.

Lesser cofounded Omega Institute in 1977 -- a time when a variety of fresh ideas were sprouting in American culture. Since then, the institute has been at the forefront of holistic education, offering workshops and trainings in: integrative medicine, prevention, nutrition, and the mind/body connection; meditation and yoga; cross-cultural arts and creativity; ecumenical spirituality; and social change movements like women's empowerment and environmental sustainability. Lesser is also the cofounder of Omega's Women's Leadership Center, which grew out of the popular Women & Power conference series featuring women leaders, activists, authors and artists from around the world. Each year more than 30,000 people participate in Omega's programs on its campus in Rhinebeck, New York and at urban and travel sites, and more than a million people visit its website for online learning.

A student of the Sufi master, Pir Vilayat Inayat Khan, for many years, Lesser has also studied with spiritual teachers, healers, psychologists and philosophers from other traditions. In 2008 she helped Oprah Winfrey produce a ten-week online seminar based on Eckhart Tolle's book, A New Earth. The webinar was viewed by more than 8 million people worldwide. She was a frequent host on Oprah's "Soul Series," a weekly radio show on Sirius/XM, and a guest on Oprah's "Super Soul Sunday." In 2011, she gave a TED Talk, "Take 'the Other' to lunch ," in which she called for civility and understanding as we negotiate our differences as human beings.

Lesser attended Barnard College, where she studied literature, and San Francisco State University, where she received a teaching degree. In 2011 she received an honorary doctorate from the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology, in Palo Alto, California. Early in her career she was a midwife and birth educator. Today, besides writing and her work at Omega Institute, she lends her time to social and environmental causes and is an avid walker, cook and gardener. She lives with her family in New York's Hudson River Valley.

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TEDWomen 2010

Elizabeth Lesser: Take "the Other" to lunch

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There's an angry divisive tension in the air that threatens to make modern politics impossible. Elizabeth Lesser explores the two sides of human nature within us (call them "the mystic" and "the warrior”) that can be harnessed to elevate the way we treat each other. She shares a simple way to begin real dialogue -- by going to lunch with someone who doesn't agree with you, and asking them three questions to find out what's really in their hearts.
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to be holding 600 people,
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but there's actually so many more,
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because in each one of us
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there is a multitude of personalities.
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I have two primary personalities
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that have been in conflict and conversation within me
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since I was a little girl.
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I call them "the mystic"
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and "the warrior."
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I was born into a family
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of politically active,
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intellectual atheists.
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There was this equation in my family that went something like this:
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if you are intelligent,
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you therefore are not spiritual.
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I was the freak of the family.
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I was this weird little kid
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who wanted to have deep talks
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about the worlds that might exist
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beyond the ones that we perceive with our senses.
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I wanted to know
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if what we human beings see
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and hear and think
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is a full and accurate picture
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of reality.
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So, looking for answers,
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I went to Catholic mass.
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I tagged along with my neighbors.
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I read Sartre and Socrates.
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And then a wonderful thing happened
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when I was in high school:
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Gurus from the East
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started washing up on the shores of America.
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And I said to myself,
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"I wanna get me one of them."
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And ever since,
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I've been walking the mystic path,
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trying to peer beyond
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what Albert Einstein called
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"the optical delusion
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of everyday consciousness."
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So what did he mean by this? I'll show you.
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Take a breath right now
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of this clear air in this room.
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Now, see this strange,
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underwater,
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coral reef-looking thing?
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It's actually a person's trachea,
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and those colored globs
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are microbes
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that are actually swimming around in this room
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right now, all around us.
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If we're blind to this simple biology,
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imagine what we're missing
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at the smallest subatomic level right now
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and at the grandest cosmic levels.
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My years as a mystic
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have made me question
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almost all my assumptions.
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They've made me a proud I-don't-know-it-all.
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Now when the mystic part of me
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jabbers on and on like this,
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the warrior rolls her eyes.
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She's concerned
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about what's happening in this world right now.
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She's worried.
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She says, "Excuse me, I'm pissed off,
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and I know a few things,
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and we better get busy about them right now."
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I've spent my life as a warrior,
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working for women's issues,
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working on political campaigns,
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being an activist for the environment.
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And it can be sort of crazy-making,
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housing both the mystic and the warrior
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in one body.
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I've always been attracted
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to those rare people
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who pull that off,
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who devote their lives to humanity
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with the grit of the warrior
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and the grace of the mystic --
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people like Martin Luther King, Jr.,
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who wrote, "I can never be
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what I ought to be
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until you are
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what you ought to be.
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This," he wrote, "is the interrelated structure
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of reality."
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Then Mother Teresa, another mystic warrior,
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who said, "The problem with the world
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is that we draw the circle of our family
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too small."
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And Nelson Mandela,
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who lives by the African concept
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of "ubuntu,"
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which means "I need you
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in order to be me,
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and you need me in order to be you."
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Now we all love to trot out
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these three mystic warriors
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as if they were born
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with the saint gene.
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But we all actually have
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the same capacity that they do,
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and we need to do
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their work now.
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I'm deeply disturbed
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by the ways in which all of our cultures
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are demonizing "the Other"
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by the voice we're giving
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to the most divisive among us.
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Listen to these titles
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of some of the bestselling books
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from both sides of the political divide
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here in the U.S.
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"Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder,"
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"Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot,"
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"Pinheads and Patriots,"
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"Arguing With Idiots."
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They're supposedly tongue-in-cheek,
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but they're actually dangerous.
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Now here's a title that may sound familiar,
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but whose author may surprise you:
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"Four-and-a-Half-Years of Struggle
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Against Lies, Stupidity
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and Cowardice."
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Who wrote that?
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That was Adolf Hitler's first title
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for "Mein Kampf" -- "My Struggle" --
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the book that launched the Nazi party.
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The worst eras in human history,
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whether in Cambodia or Germany
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or Rwanda,
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they start like this, with negative other-izing.
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And then they morph
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into violent extremism.
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This is why I'm launching a new initiative.
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And it's to help all of us,
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myself included,
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to counteract the tendency
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to "otherize."
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And I realize we're all busy people,
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so don't worry, you can do this on a lunch break.
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I'm calling my initiative,
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"Take the Other to Lunch."
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If you are
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a Republican,
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you can take a Democrat to lunch,
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or if you're a Democrat,
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think of it
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as taking a Republican to lunch.
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Now if the idea of taking any of these people to lunch
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makes you lose your appetite,
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I suggest you start more local,
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because there is no shortage of the Other
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right in your own neighborhood.
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Maybe that person
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who worships at the mosque,
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or the church or the synagogue, down the street.
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Or someone from the other side
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of the abortion conflict.
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Or maybe your brother-in-law
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who doesn't believe in global warming.
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Anyone whose lifestyle may frighten you,
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or whose point of view
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makes smoke come out of your ears.
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A couple of weeks ago,
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I took a Conservative Tea Party woman to lunch.
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Now on paper, she passed my smoking ears test.
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She's an activist from the Right,
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and I'm an activist from the Left.
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And we used some guidelines
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to keep our conversation elevated,
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and you can use them too,
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because I know you're all going
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to take an Other to lunch.
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So first of all, decide on a goal:
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to get to know one person
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from a group you may have negatively stereotyped.
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And then, before you get together,
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agree on some ground rules.
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My Tea Party lunchmate and I
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came up with these:
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don't persuade, defend
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or interrupt.
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Be curious;
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be conversational; be real.
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And listen.
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From there, we dove in.
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And we used these questions:
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Share some of your life experiences with me.
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What issues
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deeply concern you?
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And what have you always wanted to ask
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someone from the other side?
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My lunch partner and I
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came away with some really important insights,
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and I'm going to share just one with you.
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I think it has relevance
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to any problem
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between people anywhere.
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I asked her why her side
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makes such outrageous allegations
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and lies about my side.
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"What?" she wanted to know.
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"Like we're a bunch
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of elitist,
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morally-corrupt terrorist-lovers."
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Well, she was shocked.
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She thought my side
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beat up on her side way more often,
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that we called them brainless,
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gun-toting racists,
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and we both marveled
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at the labels that fit
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none of the people
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we actually know.
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And since we had established some trust,
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we believed in each other's sincerity.
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We agreed we'd speak up in our own communities
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when we witnessed
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the kind of "otherizing" talk
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that can wound
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and fester into paranoia
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and then be used by those on the fringes
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to incite.
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By the end of our lunch,
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we acknowledged each other's openness.
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Neither of us had tried to change the other.
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But we also hadn't pretended
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that our differences were just going to melt away
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after a lunch.
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Instead, we had taken
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first steps together,
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past our knee-jerk reactions,
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to the ubuntu place,
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which is the only place
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where solutions
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to our most intractable-seeming problems
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will be found.
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Who should you invite to lunch?
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Next time you catch yourself
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in the act of otherizing,
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that will be your clue.
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And what might happen at your lunch?
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Will the heavens open
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and "We Are the World" play over the restaurant sound system?
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Probably not.
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Because ubuntu work is slow,
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and it's difficult.
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It's two people
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dropping the pretense
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of being know-it-alls.
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It's two people,
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two warriors,
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dropping their weapons
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and reaching toward each other.
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Here's how the great Persian poet Rumi put it:
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"Out beyond ideas
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of wrong-doing and right-doing,
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there is a field.
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I'll meet you there."
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Elizabeth Lesser - Wellness specialist
Elizabeth Lesser helps her readers and students transform their lives after brushes with pain, adversity and life's myriad problems.

Why you should listen

Elizabeth Lesser is a bestselling author and the cofounder of Omega Institute, the renowned conference and retreat center located in Rhinebeck, New York. Lesser's first book, The Seeker's Guide, chronicles her years at Omega and distills lessons learned into a potent guide for growth and healing. Her New York Times bestselling book, Broken Open: How Difficult Times Can Help Us Grow (Random House), has sold more than 300,000 copies and has been translated into 20 languages. Her latest book, Marrow: A Love Story (Harper Collins/September 2016), is a memoir about Elizabeth and her younger sister, Maggie, and the process they went through when Elizabeth was the donor for Maggie’s bone marrow transplant.

Lesser cofounded Omega Institute in 1977 -- a time when a variety of fresh ideas were sprouting in American culture. Since then, the institute has been at the forefront of holistic education, offering workshops and trainings in: integrative medicine, prevention, nutrition, and the mind/body connection; meditation and yoga; cross-cultural arts and creativity; ecumenical spirituality; and social change movements like women's empowerment and environmental sustainability. Lesser is also the cofounder of Omega's Women's Leadership Center, which grew out of the popular Women & Power conference series featuring women leaders, activists, authors and artists from around the world. Each year more than 30,000 people participate in Omega's programs on its campus in Rhinebeck, New York and at urban and travel sites, and more than a million people visit its website for online learning.

A student of the Sufi master, Pir Vilayat Inayat Khan, for many years, Lesser has also studied with spiritual teachers, healers, psychologists and philosophers from other traditions. In 2008 she helped Oprah Winfrey produce a ten-week online seminar based on Eckhart Tolle's book, A New Earth. The webinar was viewed by more than 8 million people worldwide. She was a frequent host on Oprah's "Soul Series," a weekly radio show on Sirius/XM, and a guest on Oprah's "Super Soul Sunday." In 2011, she gave a TED Talk, "Take 'the Other' to lunch ," in which she called for civility and understanding as we negotiate our differences as human beings.

Lesser attended Barnard College, where she studied literature, and San Francisco State University, where she received a teaching degree. In 2011 she received an honorary doctorate from the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology, in Palo Alto, California. Early in her career she was a midwife and birth educator. Today, besides writing and her work at Omega Institute, she lends her time to social and environmental causes and is an avid walker, cook and gardener. She lives with her family in New York's Hudson River Valley.

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