ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Robin Ince - Comedian
The rational-minded Robin Ince conducts live experiments in comedy.

Why you should listen

Is rational thought funny? And is comedy scientific? are the pair of questions on which Robin Ince has built his recent career. On his own and as part of the BBC4 radio show The Infinite Monkey Cage, Robin Ince makes science-friendly comedy with pals like Brian Cox, Ben Goldacre and Simon Singh. TIMC just won the Best Speech Programme at the 2011 Sony Radio Awards, the first science program to win in ... aeons. They recently took the show on the road as "Uncaged Monkeys," about which the Telegraph's critic said, "I was expecting more knickers thrown at the stage, to be honest."

Onstage, Ince conducts live experiments into the science of comedy and laughter. He and his team set out to discover secret of timing, discover if people are born funny, and if computers can tell jokes.

He says: "Most scientists I know have movies and novels in their houses, whereas there are novelists whose houses I've been to who don't have any science books."

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Robin Ince: Science versus wonder?

Robin Ince: Znanost protiv čuda?

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Uništava li znanost čaroliju života? U ovom gunđavom ali šarmantnom monologu, Robin Ince donosi argumente protiv toga. Što više učimo o zadivljujućem ponašanju svemira -- osjećamo veće strahopoštovanje.
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The rational-minded Robin Ince conducts live experiments in comedy. Full bio

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I'd like to apologizeispričavati, first of all, to all of you
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Prije svega, htio bih se svima ispričati
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because I have no formoblik
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zato što nemam
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of PowerPointPowerPoint presentationprezentacija.
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nikakvu PowerPoint prezentaciju.
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So what I'm going to do
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Tako da ono što ću učiniti je
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is, everysvaki now and again, I will make this gesturegest,
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da ću svako malo napraviti ovu gestu,
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and in a momenttrenutak of PowerPointPowerPoint democracydemokratija,
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i u trenutku PowerPoint demokracije,
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you can imaginezamisliti what you'dti bi like to see.
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možete zamisliti ono što vi želite vidjeti.
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I do a radioradio showpokazati.
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Vodim radio emisiju.
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The radioradio showpokazati is calledzvao "The InfiniteBeskonačni MonkeyMajmun CageKavez."
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Emisija se zove "Kavez beskrajnog majmuna."
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It's about scienceznanost, it's about rationalismracionalizam.
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O znanosti je, i o racionalizmu.
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So thereforestoga, we get a lot of complaintspritužbe
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U skladu s tim dobivamo mnogo pritužbi
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everysvaki singlesingl weektjedan --
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baš svaki tjedan --
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complaintspritužbe includinguključujući one we get very oftenčesto,
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uključujući i jednu koju dobivamo jako često,
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whichkoji is to say the very titletitula, "InfiniteBeskonačni MonkeyMajmun CageKavez,"
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a ta je da sam naziv, "Kavez beskrajnog majmuna,"
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celebratesslavi the ideaideja of vivisectionvivisekcija.
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slavi ideju vivisekcije.
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We have madenapravljen it quitedosta clearčisto to these people
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Razjasnili smo tim ljudima
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that an infinitebeskonačan monkeymajmun cagekavez is roomyprostran.
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da je kavez beskrajnog majmuna prostran.
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(LaughterSmijeh)
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(Smijeh)
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We alsotakođer had someonenetko elsedrugo who said,
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Također nam je netko rekao,
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"'The' U InfiniteBeskonačni MonkeyMajmun Cage'Kavez ' ideaideja is ridiculoussmiješan.
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"Ideja "Kaveza beskrajnog majmuna" je besmislena.
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An infinitebeskonačan numberbroj of monkeysmajmuni
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Neograničen broj majmuna
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could never writepisati the worksdjela of ShakespeareShakespeare.
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nikad ne bi mogao napisati Shakespearova djela.
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We know this because they did an experimenteksperiment."
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Znamo to zato što su napravili pokus."
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Yes, they gavedali 12 monkeysmajmuni a typewriterpisaća mašina for a weektjedan,
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Da, dali su pisaći stroj 12-orici majmuna na tjedan dana,
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and after a weektjedan, they only used it as a bathroomkupaonica.
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i nakon tjedan dana, koristili su je samo kao zahod.
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(LaughterSmijeh)
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(Smijeh)
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So the mainglavni elementelement thoughiako, the mainglavni complaintPrigovor we get --
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Tako da je glavni element, glavna pritužba koju dobivamo --
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and one that I find mostnajviše worryingzabrinjavajući --
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i ona koja me najviše zabrinjava --
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is that people say, "Oh, why do you insistinzistirati
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je da ljudi kažu: "Pa, zašto inzistirate
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on ruiningnarušili the magicmagija?
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na uništavanju čarolije?
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You bringdonijeti in scienceznanost, and it ruinsruševine the magicmagija."
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Donosite znanost, i to uništava čaroliju."
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Now I'm an artsumjetnost graduatediplomirani;
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Sad, ja sam diplomirao umjetnost,
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I love mythmit and magicmagija
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obožavam mitove i čaroliju
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and existentialismegzistencijalizam and self-loathinggađenje.
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i egzistencijalizam i samoprijezir.
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That's what I do.
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To ja radim.
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But I alsotakođer don't understandrazumjeti
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Ali isto tako razumijem
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how it does ruinpropast the magicmagija.
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kako to uništava čaroliju.
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All of the magicmagija, I think,
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Sva čarolija, ja mislim,
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that maysvibanj well be takenpoduzete away by scienceznanost
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koju znanost može odnijeti
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is then replacedzamijeniti by something as wonderfulpredivan.
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je zamijenjena nečim jednako divnim.
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AstrologyAstrologija, for instanceprimjer:
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Astrologija, primjerice:
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like manymnogi rationalistsracionalist, I'm a PiscesRibe.
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kao i mnogo racionalista, ja sam riba.
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(LaughterSmijeh)
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(Smijeh)
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Now astrologyAstrologija --
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Dakle astrologija --
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we removeukloniti the banalbanalan ideaideja
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uklanjamo banalnu ideju
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that your life could be predictedpredvidjeti;
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da se vaš život može predvidjeti,
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that you'llvi ćete, perhapsmožda todaydanas, meetsastati a luckysretan man
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da ćete, možda danas, upoznati srećkovića
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who'stko je wearingnošenje a hatšešir.
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koji nosi šešir.
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That is goneotišao.
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Toga nema.
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But if we want to look at the skynebo and see predictionspredviđanja, we still can.
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Ali ako želimo pogledati u nebo i predviđati, još možemo.
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We can see predictionspredviđanja of galaxiesgalaksije formingformiranje,
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Možemo vidjeti predviđanja o formiranju galaksija,
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of galaxiesgalaksije collidingsudaraju into eachsvaki other, of newnovi solarsolarni systemssustavi.
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o galaksijama koje se sudaraju, o novim solarnim sustavima.
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This is a wonderfulpredivan thing.
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To je predivna stvar.
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If the SunSunce could one day -- and indeeddoista the EarthZemlja, in factčinjenica --
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Ako bi jedan dan sunce moglo -- zapravo, i Zemlja --
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if the EarthZemlja could readčitati its ownvlastiti astrologicalastrološki, astronomicalastronomski chartgrafikon,
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ako bi Zemlja mogla pročitati svoju vlastitu astrološku astronomsku kartu,
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one day it would say,
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jednog dana bi mogla reći:
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"Not a good day for makingizrađivanje plansplanovi.
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"Nije dobar dan za planiranje.
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You'llVi ćete been engulfedprogutao by a redcrvena giantgigantski."
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Crveni div će te progutati."
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And that to me as well,
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I meni isto tako,
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that if you think I'm worriedzabrinut about losinggubljenje worldssvjetovi,
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ako mislite da sam zabrinut zbog gubitka svjetova,
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well ManyMnogi WorldsSvjetovi theoryteorija --
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zapravo Teorije o mnogo svjetova --
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one of the mostnajviše beautifullijep, fascinatingfascinantan,
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jedna od najljepših, najfascinantnijih,
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sometimesponekad terrifyingzastrašujući ideasideje
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ponekad i najstrašnijih ideja
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from the quantumkvantni interpretationtumačenje --
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iz kvantne interpretacije --
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is a wonderfulpredivan thing.
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je predivna stvar.
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That everysvaki personosoba here, everysvaki decisionodluka that you've madenapravljen todaydanas,
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To da svaka osoba ovdje, svaka odluka koju ste danas donijeli,
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everysvaki decisionodluka you've madenapravljen in your life,
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svaka odluka koju ste u životu donijeli,
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you've not really madenapravljen that decisionodluka,
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zapravo niste donijeli tu odluku,
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but in factčinjenica, everysvaki singlesingl permutationpermutacije of those decisionsodluke
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ali u stvari, ama baš svaka promjena tih odluka
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is madenapravljen, eachsvaki one going off into a newnovi universesvemir.
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je donešena, svaka je otišla u novi svemir.
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That is a wonderfulpredivan ideaideja.
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To je predivna ideja.
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If you ever think that your life is rubbishsmeće,
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Ako ste ikad pomislili da je život besmislica,
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always rememberzapamtiti
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uvijek se sjetite
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there's anotherjoš you that's madenapravljen much worsegore decisionsodluke than that.
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da postoji drugi vi koji je donio puno goru odluku.
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(LaughterSmijeh)
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(Smijeh)
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If you ever think, "AhAh, I want to endkraj it all,"
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Ako ikad pomislite: "Htio bih završiti sa svim tim,"
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don't endkraj it all.
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nemojte to završiti.
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RememberSjećam se that in the majorityvećina of universessvemira,
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Sjetite se da u većini svemira,
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you don't even existpostojati in the first placemjesto.
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uopće ni ne postojite.
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This to me, in its ownvlastiti strangečudan way,
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Ovo je meni, na svoj čudan način,
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is very, very comfortingutješno.
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jako, jako utješno.
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Now reincarnationreinkarnacija, that's anotherjoš thing goneotišao -- the afterlifezagrobni život.
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Reinkarnacija pak, to je druga stvar koje nema -- život poslije smrti.
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But it's not goneotišao.
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Ali nije nestao.
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ScienceZnanost actuallyzapravo sayskaže
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Znanost zapravo kaže
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we will liveživjeti foreverzauvijek.
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da živimo zauvijek.
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Well, there is one provisos tim.
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Pa, postoji jedna klauzula.
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We won'tnavika actuallyzapravo liveživjeti foreverzauvijek. You won'tnavika liveživjeti foreverzauvijek.
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Nećemo stvarno živjeti zauvijek. Nećete živjeti zauvijek.
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Your consciousnesssvijest, the you-nessti-RT of you, the me-nessmi-RT of me --
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Vaša svijest, ono što vas čini vama, mene mnom --
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that getsdobiva this one go.
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to dobije -- ovo ide.
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But everysvaki singlesingl thing that makesmarke us,
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Ali ama baš svaka stvar koja nas sačinjava,
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everysvaki atomatom in us,
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svaki atom u nama,
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has alreadyveć createdstvorio a myriadbezbroj of differentdrugačiji things
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je već stvorio mnoštvo različitih stvari
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and will go on to createstvoriti a myriadbezbroj of newnovi things.
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i nastavit će stvarati mnoštvo novih stvari.
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We have been mountainsplanine
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Bili smo planine
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and applesjabuke and pulsarspulsari
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i jabuke i pulsari
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and other people'snarodno kneeskoljena.
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i koljena drugih ljudi.
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Who knowszna, maybe one of your atomsatomi was oncejednom Napoleon'sNapoleon je kneekoljeno.
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Tko zna, možda je jedan od vaših atoma bio Napoleonovo koljeno.
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That is a good thing.
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To bi bilo dobro.
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UnlikeZa razliku od the occupantsstanara of the universesvemir,
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Za razliku od stanovnika svemira,
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the universesvemir itselfsebe is not wastefulrasipan.
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sam svemir nije rasipan.
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We are all totallypotpuno recyclablereciklirati.
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Svi smo u potpunosti ponovno iskoristivi.
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And when we dieumrijeti,
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I kad umremo,
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we don't even have to be placedpostavljen in differentdrugačiji refuseodbiti sacsvrećice.
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čak se ni ne moramo smjestiti u razne vreće za otpatke.
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This is a wonderfulpredivan thing.
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To je divno.
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UnderstandingRazumijevanje, to me,
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Prema meni, razumijevanje
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does not removeukloniti the wonderčudo and the joyradost.
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ne uklanja svo čudo i radost.
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For instanceprimjer, my wifežena could turnskretanje to me and she maysvibanj say,
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Na primjer, moja žena bi se mogla okrenuti i reći:
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"Why do you love me?"
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"Zašto me voliš?"
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And I can with all honestyiskrenost
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I potpuno iskreno je mogu
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look her in the eyeoko and say,
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pogledati u oči i reći,
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"Because our pheromonesFeromoni
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"Zbog toga što su se naši feromoni
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matcheduskladiti our olfactorymirisni receptorsreceptori."
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složili s našim njušnim osjetilima."
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(LaughterSmijeh)
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(Smijeh)
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ThoughIako I'll probablyvjerojatno alsotakođer say something
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Iako ću vjerojatno reći i nešto
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about her hairdlaka and personalityosoba as well.
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o njenoj kosi i osobnosti također.
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And that is a wonderfulpredivan thing there.
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I to je divna stvar u svemu.
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Love does not dieumrijeti because of that thing.
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Ljubav ne umire zbog toga.
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PainBol doesn't go away eitherili.
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Ni bol ne odlazi.
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This is a terribleužasan thing, even thoughiako I understandrazumjeti painbol.
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To je grozno, iako razumijem bol.
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If someonenetko punchespunches me --
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Ako me netko udari --
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and because of my personalityosoba,
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a zbog moje osobnosti,
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this is recentlynedavno a regularredovan occurrencepojava --
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ovo je česta pojava u posljednje vrijeme --
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I understandrazumjeti where the painbol comesdolazi from.
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razumijem odakle dolazi bol.
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It is basicallyu osnovi momentummoment to energyenergija
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To je u osnovi moment energije
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where the four-vectorčetiri-vektor is constantkonstantno -- that's what it is.
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u kojem su četiri vektora konstanta -- to je to.
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But at no pointtočka can I reactreagirati and go,
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Ali ni u jednom trenu ne mogu reagirati i reći:
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"HaHa! Is that the bestnajbolje momentum-to-energyzamah energije fourthČetvrta vectorvektor constantkonstantno you've got?"
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"A-ha! Je li to najbolja konstanta četiri vektora momenta energije koji imaš?"
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No, I just spitpljuvačka out a toothzub.
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Ne, samo ispljunem zub.
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(LaughterSmijeh)
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(Smijeh)
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And that is all of these differentdrugačiji things -- the love for my childdijete.
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I to su sve ove različite stvari -- ljubav za moje dijete.
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I have a sonsin. His nameime is ArchieArchie.
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Imam sina. Zove se Archie.
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I'm very luckysretan,
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Jako sam sretan,
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because he's better than all the other childrendjeca.
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zato što je on bolji od sve ostale djece.
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Now I know you don't think that.
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Znam da vi to ne mislite.
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You maysvibanj well have your ownvlastiti childrendjeca
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Možda imate i svoju djecu
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and think, "Oh no, my child'sdjeteta bestnajbolje."
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i mislite: "A, ne, moje dijete je najbolje."
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That's the wonderfulpredivan thing about evolutionevolucija --
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To je divna stvar kod evolucije --
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the predilectionpredizbori to believe
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sklonost vjerovanju
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that our childdijete is bestnajbolje.
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da je naše dijete najbolje.
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Now in manymnogi waysnačine, that's just a survivalopstanak thing.
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I u mnogo načina, to je samo stvar preživljavanja.
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The factčinjenica we see here is the vehiclevozilo for our genesgeni,
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Činjenica koju tu vidimo je sredstvo za naše gene,
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and thereforestoga we love it.
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i zbog toga je volimo.
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But we don't noticeobavijest that bitbit; we just unconditionallybezuvjetno love.
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Ali to uopće ne primjećujemo; jedino bezuvjetno volimo.
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That is a wonderfulpredivan thing.
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To je divna stvar.
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ThoughIako I should say that my sonsin is bestnajbolje
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Iako, morao bih reći da je moj sin najbolji
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and is better than your childrendjeca.
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i da je bolji od vaš djece.
06:05
I've doneučinio some teststestovi.
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Testirao samo to.
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And all of these things to me
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I sve ove stvari mi
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give suchtakav joyradost and excitementuzbuđenje and wonderčudo.
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daju takav užitak i uzbuđenje i zadivljenost.
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Even quantumkvantni mechanicsmehanika can give you an excuseizgovor
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Svaki kvantum mehanike vam može dati izgovor
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for badloše houseworkkućanski poslovi, for instanceprimjer.
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za loše obavljanje kućanskih poslova, na primjer.
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PerhapsMožda you've been at home for a weektjedan on your ownvlastiti.
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Možda ste tjedan dana bili sami kod kuće.
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You housekuća is in a terribleužasan statedržava.
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Kuća vam je u strašnom stanju.
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Your partnerpartner is about to returnpovratak.
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Vaš partner će se upravo vratiti.
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You think, what should I do?
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Mislite, što da napravim?
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Do nothing.
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Ne činite ništa.
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All you have to do
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Sve što morate napravite je
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is, when she walksšetnje in, usingkoristeći a quantumkvantni interpretationtumačenje,
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da, kad ona uđe, koristeći kvantnu interpretaciju,
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say, "I'm so sorry.
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kažete: "Tako mi je žao.
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I stoppedprestao observingpromatranje the housekuća for a momenttrenutak,
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Prestao sam promatrati kuću na tren,
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and when I startedpočeo observingpromatranje again,
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i kad sam opet počeo gledati,
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everything had happeneddogodilo."
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sve se dogodilo."
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(LaughterSmijeh)
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(Smijeh)
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That's the strongjak anthropicEntropijsko principlenačelo of vacuumingusisavanje.
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To je snažan ljudski princip vakumiranja.
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For me, it's a very, very importantvažno thing.
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Za mene, to je jako, jako važno.
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Even on my journeyputovanje up here --
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Čak i na putu do ovamo --
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the joyradost that I have on my journeyputovanje up here everysvaki singlesingl time.
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užitak koji osjećam na putu do ovamo baš svaki put.
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If you actuallyzapravo think, you removeukloniti the mythmit and there is still something wonderfulpredivan.
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Ako stvarno mislite, uklonite mit i tu je još uvijek nešto predivno.
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I'm sittingsjedenje on a trainvlak.
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Sjedim u vlaku.
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EverySvaki time I breathedisati in,
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Svaki put kad udahnem,
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I'm breathingdisanje in a million-billion-billionmilijuna - milijardi - milijardi
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udišem milijune milijardi milijardi
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atomsatomi of oxygenkisik.
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atoma kisika.
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I'm sittingsjedenje on a chairstolica.
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Sjedim na stolici.
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Even thoughiako I know the chairstolica is madenapravljen of atomsatomi
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Iako znam da je stolica napravljena od atoma
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and thereforestoga actuallyzapravo in manymnogi waysnačine emptyprazan spaceprostor,
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i stoga zapravo na mnogo načina prazan prostor,
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I find it comfortableudobno.
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osjećam da je udobna.
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I look out the windowprozor, and I realizeostvariti
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Pogledam kroz prozor, i shvatim
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that everysvaki singlesingl time we stop and I look out that windowprozor,
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da baš svaki put kad zastanem i pogledam kroz taj prozor,
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framednamješteno in that windowprozor,
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uokviren u taj prozor,
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wherevergdje god we are,
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gdje god da jesmo,
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I am observingpromatranje more life
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promatram više života
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than there is in the restodmor of the knownznan universesvemir
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nego što ga ima u ostatku poznatog svemira
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beyondIznad the planetplaneta EarthZemlja.
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izvan planeta Zemlje.
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If you go to the safariSafari parksparkovi
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Ako odete u safari park
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on SaturnSaturn or JupiterJupiter,
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na Saturnu ili Jupiteru,
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you will be disappointedrazočaran.
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bit ćete razočarani.
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And I realizeostvariti I'm observingpromatranje this
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I shvaćam da to promatram
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with the brainmozak, the humanljudski brainmozak,
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pomoću mozga, ljudskog mozga,
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the mostnajviše complexkompleks thing in the knownznan universesvemir.
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najsloženije stvari u znanom svemiru.
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That, to me, is an incrediblenevjerojatan thing.
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To je, prema meni, nevjerojatno.
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And do you know what, that mightmoć be enoughdovoljno.
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I znate što, to bi moglo biti dovoljno.
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StevenSteven WeinbergWeinberg, the NobelNobelovu laureatelaureat, oncejednom said,
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Steven Weinberg, dobitnik Nobela, je jednom rekao,
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"The more the universesvemir seemsčini se comprehensiblerazumljiv,
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"Što se svemir čini razumljivijim,
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the more it seemsčini se pointlessbesmislen."
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više se čini besmislenim."
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Now for some people,
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Sad, za neke ljude,
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that seemsčini se to leaddovesti to an ideaideja of nihilismnihilizam.
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čini se da to vodi ideji nihilizma.
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But for me, it doesn't. That is a wonderfulpredivan thing.
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Ali za mene, to nije tako. To je predivna stvar.
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I'm gladradostan the universesvemir is pointlessbesmislen.
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Drago mi je da je svemir besmislen.
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It meanssredstva if I get to the endkraj of my life,
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To znači da ću doći do kraja svog života,
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the universesvemir can't turnskretanje to me and go, "What have you been doing, you idiotidiot?
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svemir se ne može okrenuti i reći: "Što si to činio, idiote?
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That's not the pointtočka."
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Nije u tome bit."
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I can make my ownvlastiti purposesvrha.
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Mogu sam stvoriti svoju svrhu.
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You can make your ownvlastiti purposesvrha.
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Vi možete stvoriti svoju svrhu.
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We have the individualpojedinac powervlast
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Imamo pojedinačnu moć
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to go, "This is what I want to do."
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da kažemo: "Ovo je ono što želim činiti."
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And in a pointlessbesmislen universesvemir, that, to me, is a wonderfulpredivan thing.
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I u besmislenom svemiru, prema meni, to je predivna stvar.
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I have chosenodabran to make sillyglup jokesVicevi
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Odlučio sam glupavo se šaliti
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about quantumkvantni mechanicsmehanika and the CopenhagenCopenhagen interpretationtumačenje.
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o kvantnoj mehanici i Kopenhaškoj interpretaciji.
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You, I imaginezamisliti, can do much better things with your time.
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Vi, vjerujem, možete činiti mnogo bolje stvari sa svojim vremenom.
08:26
Thank you very much. GoodbyeZbogom.
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Puno vam hvala. Zbogom.
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(ApplausePljesak)
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(Pljesak)
Translated by Ivona tevanja
Reviewed by Tilen Pigac - EFZG

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Robin Ince - Comedian
The rational-minded Robin Ince conducts live experiments in comedy.

Why you should listen

Is rational thought funny? And is comedy scientific? are the pair of questions on which Robin Ince has built his recent career. On his own and as part of the BBC4 radio show The Infinite Monkey Cage, Robin Ince makes science-friendly comedy with pals like Brian Cox, Ben Goldacre and Simon Singh. TIMC just won the Best Speech Programme at the 2011 Sony Radio Awards, the first science program to win in ... aeons. They recently took the show on the road as "Uncaged Monkeys," about which the Telegraph's critic said, "I was expecting more knickers thrown at the stage, to be honest."

Onstage, Ince conducts live experiments into the science of comedy and laughter. He and his team set out to discover secret of timing, discover if people are born funny, and if computers can tell jokes.

He says: "Most scientists I know have movies and novels in their houses, whereas there are novelists whose houses I've been to who don't have any science books."

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