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Daniel Kish: How I use sonar to navigate the world
Daniel Kish: Kako koristim sonar za kretanje po svijetu
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Daniel Kish slijep je od 13 mjeseci starosti, ali je naučio "vidjeti" koristeći eholokaciju. On pucketa jezikom i šalje bljeskove zvuka koji se odbijaju od površina u okolišu i vraćaju mu se., pomažući mu da konstriura shvaćanje prostora oko sebe. U intrigantnom govoru, Kish demonstrira kako ovo radi i traži od nas da se oslobodimo straha od "tamne nepoznanice."
Daniel Kish - Perceptual navigation specialist
Daniel Kish expands the perceptual toolbox of both blind and sighted humans by teaching echolocation -- the ability to observe our surroundings via sound. Full bio
Daniel Kish expands the perceptual toolbox of both blind and sighted humans by teaching echolocation -- the ability to observe our surroundings via sound. Full bio
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(Clicking)
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(Pucketanje)
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I was born with bilateral retinoblastoma,
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Rođen sam s bilateralnim retinoblastomom,
00:24
retinal cancer.
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tumorom mrežnice.
00:27
My right eye was removed
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Moje desno oko je odstranjeno
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at seven months of age.
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kada sam imao sedam mjeseci.
00:33
I was 13 months
when they removed my left eye.
when they removed my left eye.
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Imao sam 13 mjeseci
kada su odstranili moje lijevo oko.
kada su odstranili moje lijevo oko.
00:38
The first thing I did
upon awakening from that last surgery
upon awakening from that last surgery
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Prva stvar koju sam napravio
nakon buđenja poslije zadnje operacije,
nakon buđenja poslije zadnje operacije,
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was to climb out of my crib
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izašao sam iz kolijevke
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and begin wandering around
the intensive care nursery,
the intensive care nursery,
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i počeo sam lutati po odjelu intenzivnog
liječenja pedijatrije,
liječenja pedijatrije,
00:51
probably looking for the one
who did this to me.
who did this to me.
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vjerojatno tražeći onoga koji
mi je ovo učinio.
mi je ovo učinio.
00:55
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
00:58
Evidently, wandering around the nursery
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Očigledno, lutanje po pedijatriji
01:02
was not a problem for me without eyes.
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bez očiju mi nije predstavljalo problem.
01:05
The problem was getting caught.
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Problem je bio kada me uhvate.
01:09
It's impressions about blindness
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Utisci o sljepoći su ti
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that are far more threatening
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koji predstavljaju puno veću prijetnju
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to blind people than the blindness itself.
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slijepim ljudima od same sljepoće.
01:21
Think for a moment about
your own impressions of blindness.
your own impressions of blindness.
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Razmislite na trenutak o vlastitim
stajalištima o sljepoći.
stajalištima o sljepoći.
01:25
Think about your reactions
when I first came onto the stage,
when I first came onto the stage,
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Razmislite o svojim reakcijama
kada sam tek došao na pozornicu,
kada sam tek došao na pozornicu,
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or the prospect of your own blindness,
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ili o vjerojatnosti da vi oslijepite,
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or a loved one going blind.
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ili vaši voljeni.
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The terror is incomprehensible
to most of us,
to most of us,
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Teror je većini nas neshvatljiv,
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because blindness
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jer za sljepoću
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is thought to epitomize ignorance
and unawareness,
and unawareness,
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se smatra da uklanja neznanje
i nesvjesnost,
i nesvjesnost,
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hapless exposure to the ravages
of the dark unknown.
of the dark unknown.
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nesretnog izlaganja razaranju
mračne nepoznatosti.
mračne nepoznatosti.
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How poetic.
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Kako poetično.
02:01
Fortunately for me,
my parents were not poetic.
my parents were not poetic.
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Srećom za mene,
moji roditelji nisu bili poetični.
moji roditelji nisu bili poetični.
02:04
They were pragmatic.
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Bili su pragmatični.
02:06
They understood that ignorance and fear
were but matters of the mind,
were but matters of the mind,
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Razumjeli su da su neznanje i strah
samo stanja uma,
samo stanja uma,
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and the mind is adaptable.
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a um je prilagodljiv.
02:17
They believed that I should grow up
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Smatrali su kako trebam odrastati
02:20
to enjoy the same freedoms
and responsibilities as everyone else.
and responsibilities as everyone else.
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uživajući iste slobode
i obveze kao i svi drugi.
i obveze kao i svi drugi.
02:25
In their own words, I would move out --
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Njihovim riječima, iselit ću se --
02:28
which I did when I was 18 --
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što i jesam kada sam napunio 18 --
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I will pay taxes --
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plaćat ću porez --
02:33
thanks --
(Laughter) --
(Laughter) --
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hvala --
(Smijeh) --
(Smijeh) --
02:37
and they knew the difference
between love and fear.
between love and fear.
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i znali su razliku između
ljubavi i straha.
ljubavi i straha.
02:42
Fear immobilizes us
in the face of challenge.
in the face of challenge.
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Strah nas imobilizira
prilikom suočavanja s izazovima.
prilikom suočavanja s izazovima.
02:47
They knew that blindness
would pose a significant challenge.
would pose a significant challenge.
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Znali su da bi sljepoća
predstavljala značajan izazov.
predstavljala značajan izazov.
02:50
I was not raised with fear.
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Nisam odgojen sa strahom.
02:53
They put my freedom first before all else,
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Stavljali su moju slobodu prije svega,
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because that is what love does.
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jer to je ono što ljubav čini.
03:00
Now, moving forward,
how do I manage today?
how do I manage today?
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Sada, idemo dalje,
kako se snalazim danas?
kako se snalazim danas?
03:06
The world is a much larger nursery.
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Svijet je puno veća pedijatrija.
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Fortunately, I have my trusty long cane,
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Srećom, uz sebe imam svoj vjerni štap,
03:13
longer than the canes
used by most blind people.
used by most blind people.
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duži od štapova
koje većina slijepaca koristi.
koje većina slijepaca koristi.
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I call it my freedom staff.
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Zovem ga svojim štapom slobode.
03:19
It will keep me, for example,
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Spriječit će me, na primjer,
03:20
from making an undignified
departure from the stage. (Laughter)
departure from the stage. (Laughter)
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od nedostojanstvenog odlaska
s pozornice. (Smijeh)
s pozornice. (Smijeh)
03:27
I do see that cliff edge.
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Vidim taj rub.
03:30
They warned us earlier
that every imaginable mishap
that every imaginable mishap
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Prije su nas upozorili
da su se sve zamislive nesreće
da su se sve zamislive nesreće
03:33
has occurred to speakers
up here on the stage.
up here on the stage.
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dogodile govornicima
ovdje na pozornici.
ovdje na pozornici.
03:37
I don't care to set a new precedent.
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Nemam namjeru dodati još jedan primjer.
03:40
But beyond that,
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Ali dalje od toga,
03:42
many of you may have heard me clicking
as I came onto the stage --
as I came onto the stage --
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većina vas me mogla čuti kako pucketam
dok sam dolazio na pozornicu --
dok sam dolazio na pozornicu --
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(Clicking) --
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(Pucketanje) --
03:46
with my tongue.
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sa svojim jezikom.
03:48
Those are flashes of sound
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To su bljeskovi zvuka
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that go out and reflect
from surfaces all around me,
from surfaces all around me,
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koji odlaze i reflektiraju se
o podloge koje me okružuju,
o podloge koje me okružuju,
03:56
just like a bat's sonar,
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poput sonara šišmiša,
03:58
and return to me with patterns,
with pieces of information,
with pieces of information,
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te mi se vraćaju u uzorcima,
s djelićima informacija,
s djelićima informacija,
04:03
much as light does for you.
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baš kao što svjetlo radi u vašem slučaju.
04:07
And my brain, thanks to my parents,
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Moj mozak, zahvaljujući mojim roditeljima,
04:10
has been activated to form images
in my visual cortex,
in my visual cortex,
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je aktiviran kako bi stvarao slike
u mojoj vidnoj kori mozga,
u mojoj vidnoj kori mozga,
04:16
which we now call the imaging system,
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koju sada zovemo slikovnim sustavom,
04:19
from those patterns of information,
much as your brain does.
much as your brain does.
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od tih uzoraka informacija,
slično kao što vaš mozak to radi.
slično kao što vaš mozak to radi.
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I call this process flash sonar.
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Zovem to procesirajućim
bljeskovnim sonarom.
bljeskovnim sonarom.
04:26
It is how I have learned to see
through my blindness,
through my blindness,
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Tako sam naučio vidjeti
kroz svoju sljepoću,
kroz svoju sljepoću,
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to navigate my journey
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upravljati svojim putovanjem
04:35
through the dark unknowns
of my own challenges,
of my own challenges,
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kroz mračne nepoznanice
vlastitih izazova,
vlastitih izazova,
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which has earned me the moniker
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što mi je pridonijelo nadimak
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"the remarkable Batman."
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˝izvanredni Batman,˝
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Now, Batman I will accept.
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Sada, Batmana ću prihvatiti.
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Bats are cool. Batman is cool.
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Šišmiši su cool. Batman je cool.
04:53
But I was not raised to think of myself
as in any way remarkable.
as in any way remarkable.
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Ali nisam odgojen kako bi se smatrao
ni na koji način izvanrednim.
ni na koji način izvanrednim.
04:59
I have always regarded myself
much like anyone else
much like anyone else
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Uvijek sam se smatrao
jednakim poput bilo koga
jednakim poput bilo koga
05:03
who navigates the dark unknowns
of their own challenges.
of their own challenges.
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tko plovi kroz mračne nepoznanice
vlastitih izazova.
vlastitih izazova.
05:09
Is that so remarkable?
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Je li to toliko nevjerojatno?
05:12
I do not use my eyes, I use my brain.
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Ne koristim svoje oči,
koristim svoj mozak.
koristim svoj mozak.
05:16
Now, someone, somewhere,
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Sada, netko, negdje,
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must think that's remarkable,
or I wouldn't be up here,
or I wouldn't be up here,
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mora misliti kako je to nevjerojatno,
jer u suprotnom ne bih bio ovdje,
jer u suprotnom ne bih bio ovdje,
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but let's consider this for a moment.
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ali razmislimo na trenutak o tome.
05:27
Everyone out there
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Svi vi
05:29
who faces or who has ever
faced a challenge,
faced a challenge,
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koji se suočavate ili ste se
ikada suočili s izazovima,
ikada suočili s izazovima,
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raise your hands.
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podignite ruku.
05:37
Whoosh. Okay.
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Vuuš. OK.
05:39
Lots of hands going up, a moment,
let me do a head count.
let me do a head count.
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Puno ruka se trenutno diže,
samo da prebrojim glave.
samo da prebrojim glave.
05:42
(Clicking)
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(Pucketanje)
05:45
This will take a while.
(Clicking) (Laughter)
(Clicking) (Laughter)
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Ovo će potrajati.
(Pucketanje) (Smijeh)
(Pucketanje) (Smijeh)
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Okay, lots of hands in the air.
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OK, puno je ruka u zraku.
05:50
Keep them up. I have an idea.
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Zadržite ih gore. Imam ideju.
05:52
Those of you who use your brains
to navigate these challenges,
to navigate these challenges,
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Svi vi koji koristite svoj mozak
prilikom nošenja s izazovima,
prilikom nošenja s izazovima,
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put your hands down.
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spustite svoje ruke.
06:02
Okay, anyone with your hands still up
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OK, svi koji još uvijek imaju ruke u zraku
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has challenges of your own. (Laughter)
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imaju izazove za sebe. (Smijeh)
06:10
So we all face challenges,
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Dakle, svi se suočavamo s izazovima
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and we all face the dark unknown,
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i svi se suočavamo s
mračnim nepoznanicama,
mračnim nepoznanicama,
06:16
which is endemic to most challenges,
which is what most of us fear, okay?
which is what most of us fear, okay?
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koje su endemske za većinu izazova,
što je ono čega se većina nas boji, OK?
što je ono čega se većina nas boji, OK?
06:20
But we all have brains
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Ali, svi mi imamo mozgove
06:24
that allow us, that activate to allow us
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koji nam omogućuju, koji se aktiviraju
kako bi nam omogućili
kako bi nam omogućili
06:29
to navigate the journey
through these challenges. Okay?
through these challenges. Okay?
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upravljanje našim putovanjima
kroz te izazove. OK?
kroz te izazove. OK?
06:36
Case in point: I came up here
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Poanta ovoga: Došao sam ovdje
06:40
and -- (Clicking) -- they wouldn't tell me
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i -- (Pucketanje) -- nisu mi željeli reći
06:47
where the lectern was.
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gdje se nalazi pult.
06:50
So you can't trust those TED folks.
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Dakle, ne možete vjerovati
tim TED ljudima.
tim TED ljudima.
06:54
"Find it yourself," they said.
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˝Pronađi sam˝, rekli su,
06:56
So -- (Laughter)
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Dakle -- (Smijeh)
07:01
And the feedback for the P.A. system
is no help at all.
is no help at all.
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I povratna informacija od sustava najava nije uopće od pomoći.
07:04
So now I present to you a challenge.
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Sada vam predstavljam izazov.
07:07
So if you'd all close your eyes
for just a moment, okay?
for just a moment, okay?
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Možete li svi zatvoriti oči
na trenutak, OK?
na trenutak, OK?
07:11
And you're going to learn
a bit of flash sonar.
a bit of flash sonar.
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Naučit ćete nešto o
bljeskovnom sonaru.
bljeskovnom sonaru.
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I'm going to make a sound.
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Proizvest ću zvuk.
07:17
I'm going to hold this panel in front
of me, but I'm not going to move it.
of me, but I'm not going to move it.
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Držat ću ovu ploču ispred
sebe, ali ju neću pomaknuti.
sebe, ali ju neću pomaknuti.
07:20
Just listen to the sound for a moment.
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Slušajte zvuk na trenutak.
07:25
Shhhhhhhhhh.
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Ššššššššššššš.
07:31
Okay, nothing very interesting.
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OK, ništa zanimljivo.
07:33
Now, listen to what happens
to that same exact sound
to that same exact sound
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Sada, slušajte što se dogodi
s istim zvukom
s istim zvukom
07:36
when I move the panel.
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kada pomaknem ploču.
07:39
Shhhhhhhhhhh.
(Pitch getting higher and lower)
(Pitch getting higher and lower)
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Ššššššššššš.
(Visina tona postaje viša i niža)
(Visina tona postaje viša i niža)
07:50
You do not know the power
of the dark side.
of the dark side.
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Ne znate moć
tamne strane.
tamne strane.
07:53
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
07:55
I couldn't resist.
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Nisam mogao odoljeti.
07:59
Okay, now keep your eyes closed
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OK, sada nastavite žmiriti
08:02
because, did you hear the difference?
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jer, jeste li čuli razliku?
08:04
Okay. Now, let's be sure.
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OK. Sada, idemo biti sigurni.
08:07
For your challenge,
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Kao vaš izazov,
08:09
you tell me, just say "now"
when you hear the panel start to move.
when you hear the panel start to move.
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recite mi, samo recite ˝sada˝
kada čujete da se ploča počinje micati.
kada čujete da se ploča počinje micati.
08:14
Okay? We'll relax into this.
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OK? Krenut ćemo polako u ovo.
08:20
Shhhhhhh.
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Ššššššš.
08:23
Audience: Now.
Daniel Kish: Good. Excellent.
Daniel Kish: Good. Excellent.
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Publika: Sada.
Daniel Kish: Dobro. Odlično.
Daniel Kish: Dobro. Odlično.
08:25
Open your eyes.
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Otvorite oči.
08:27
All right. So just a few centimeters,
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U redu. Dakle svega par centimetara
08:31
you would notice the difference.
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i uočili ste razliku.
08:34
You've experienced sonar.
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Iskusili ste sonar.
08:37
You'd all make great blind people.
(Laughter)
(Laughter)
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Svi biste bili odlični slijepci.
(Smijeh)
(Smijeh)
08:40
Let's have a look at what can happen
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Pogledajmo što se može dogoditi
08:43
when this activation process
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kada se ovom aktivacijskom procesu
08:46
is given some time and attention.
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da malo vremena i pozornosti.
08:51
(Video) Juan Ruiz: It's like
you guys can see with your eyes
you guys can see with your eyes
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(Video) Juan Ruiz: Ovo je kao
što vi ljudi možete vidjeti s vašim očima,
što vi ljudi možete vidjeti s vašim očima,
08:54
and we can see with our ears.
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a mi možemo vidjeti s našim ušima.
08:57
Brian Bushway: It's not a matter
of enjoying it more or less,
of enjoying it more or less,
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Brian Bushway: Nije stvar u uživanju
u tome više ili manje,
u tome više ili manje,
09:00
it's about enjoying it differently.
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već je stvar u uživanju u tome
na različit način.
na različit način.
09:03
Shawn Marsolais: It goes across.
DK: Yeah.
DK: Yeah.
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Shawn Marsolais: Ide ravno.
DK: Da.
DK: Da.
09:06
SM: And then it's gradually
coming back down again.
coming back down again.
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SM: I onda se postupno
ponovno spušta dolje.
ponovno spušta dolje.
09:10
DK: Yes!
SM: That's amazing.
SM: That's amazing.
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DK: Da!
SM: Ovo je zapanjujuće.
SM: Ovo je zapanjujuće.
09:11
I can, like, see the car. Holy mother!
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Kao da mogu vidjeti auto. Sveta majko!
09:21
J. Louchart: I love being blind.
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J. Louchart: Volim biti slijep.
09:24
If I had the opportunity, honestly,
I wouldn't go back to being sighted.
I wouldn't go back to being sighted.
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Kada bih imao priliku, iskreno,
ne bih opet imao vid.
ne bih opet imao vid.
09:27
JR: The bigger the goal,
the more obstacles you'll face,
the more obstacles you'll face,
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JR: Što je veći cilj,
što ćete se s više prepreka suočiti,
što ćete se s više prepreka suočiti,
09:31
and on the other side of that goal
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i s druge strane tog cilja
09:33
is victory.
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je pobjeda.
09:35
[In Italian]
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[Na talijanskom]
09:40
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
09:50
DK: Now, do these people look terrified?
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DK: Sada, izgledaju li ovi
ljudi prestrašeno?
ljudi prestrašeno?
09:54
Not so much.
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Ne baš.
09:56
We have delivered activation training
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Dostavili smo aktivacijski trening
09:58
to tens of thousands of blind
and sighted people from all backgrounds
and sighted people from all backgrounds
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desecima tisuća slijepih ljudi
i onima koji vide iz svih područja
i onima koji vide iz svih područja
10:02
in nearly 40 countries.
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u gotovo 40 zemalja.
10:04
When blind people learn to see,
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Kada slijepi uče vidjeti,
10:09
sighted people seem inspired
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oni koji vide se osjećaju nadahnuto
10:12
to want to learn to see their way
better, more clearly, with less fear,
better, more clearly, with less fear,
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naučiti vidjeti bolje, jasnije,
s manje straha,
s manje straha,
10:18
because this exemplifies
the immense capacity within us all
the immense capacity within us all
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jer ovo služi kao primjer
neizmjerne sposobnosti u svim nama
neizmjerne sposobnosti u svim nama
10:24
to navigate any type of challenge,
through any form of darkness,
through any form of darkness,
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za navigiranje kroz bilo koji tip izazova,
kroz bilo koji oblik mraka,
kroz bilo koji oblik mraka,
10:31
to discoveries unimagined
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do nazamislivih otkrića
10:34
when we are activated.
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kada smo aktivirani.
10:39
I wish you all a most activating journey.
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Želim vam svima najaktiviranije putovanje.
10:45
Thank you very much.
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Puno vam hvala.
10:47
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
10:55
Chris Anderson: Daniel, my friend.
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Chris Anderson: Daniel, prijatelju.
10:58
As I know you can see, it's
a spectacular standing ovation at TED.
a spectacular standing ovation at TED.
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Kao što znam, možeš vidjeti,
ovo je spektakularna ovacija na TED-u.
ovo je spektakularna ovacija na TED-u.
11:03
Thank you for an extraordinary talk.
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Hvala ti na nevjerojatnom govoru.
11:06
Just one more question about your world,
your inner world that you construct.
your inner world that you construct.
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Samo još jedno pitanje o tvom svijetu,
tvom unutarnjem svijetu kojeg gradiš.
tvom unutarnjem svijetu kojeg gradiš.
11:11
We think that we have things in our world
that you as a blind person don't have,
that you as a blind person don't have,
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Smatramo da imamo stvari u našem svijetu
koje ti kao slijepac nemaš,
koje ti kao slijepac nemaš,
11:17
but what's your world like?
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no kako izgleda tvoj svijet?
11:18
What do you have that we don't have?
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Što ti to imaš, a mi nemamo?
11:21
DK: Three hundred and sixty-degree view,
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DK: Pogled od tristo šezdeset stupnjeva,
11:24
so my sonar works about as well
behind me as it does in front of me.
behind me as it does in front of me.
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dakle moj sonar funkcionira jednako dobro
iza mene, kao i ispred mene.
iza mene, kao i ispred mene.
11:28
It works around corners.
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Funkcionira iza uglova.
11:30
It works through surfaces.
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Funkcionira preko podloga.
11:34
Generally, it's kind of a fuzzy
three-dimensional geometry.
three-dimensional geometry.
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Općenito, to je neka vrsta nejasne
trodimenzijske geometrije.
trodimenzijske geometrije.
11:39
One of my students, who has now
become an instructor,
become an instructor,
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Jedan od mojih učenika, koji je sada
postao trener,
postao trener,
11:43
when he lost his vision,
after a few months
after a few months
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kada je izgubio vid,
nakon par mjeseci
nakon par mjeseci
11:46
he was sitting in his three story house
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dok je sjedio u svojoj trokatnici
11:48
and he realized that he could hear
everything going on throughout the house:
everything going on throughout the house:
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shvatio je da može čuti sve što
se događa širom kuće:
se događa širom kuće:
11:52
conversations, people in the kitchen,
people in the bathroom,
people in the bathroom,
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razgovore, ljude u kuhinji,
ljude u kupaonici,
ljude u kupaonici,
11:56
several floors away, several walls away.
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nekoliko katova udaljene,
nekoliko zidova udaljene.
nekoliko zidova udaljene.
11:59
He said it was something
like having x-ray vision.
like having x-ray vision.
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Rekao je da je to poput
gledanja uz pomoć X-zraka.
gledanja uz pomoć X-zraka.
12:02
CA: What do you picture
that you're in right now?
that you're in right now?
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CA: Kako zamišljaš prostor
u kojem se trenutno nalaziš?
u kojem se trenutno nalaziš?
12:06
How do you picture this theater?
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Kako zamišljaš ovaj teatar?
12:09
DK: Lots of loudspeakers, quite frankly.
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DK: Puno zvučnika, očito.
12:16
It's interesting.
When people make a sound,
When people make a sound,
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Zanimljivo je to.
Kada se ljudi glasaju,
Kada se ljudi glasaju,
12:20
when they laugh, when they fidget,
when they take a drink or blow their nose
when they take a drink or blow their nose
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dok se smiju, vrpolje se,
dok piju ili ispuhuju nos
dok piju ili ispuhuju nos
12:25
or whatever, I hear everything.
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ili što god, sve čujem.
12:28
I hear every little movement
that every single person makes.
that every single person makes.
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Čujem i najmanji pokret
koji svaki pojedinac napravi.
koji svaki pojedinac napravi.
12:31
None of it really escapes my attention,
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Ništa od toga ne uzmakne mojoj pažnji,
12:34
and then, from a sonar perspective,
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i onda iz perspektive sonara,
12:36
the size of the room, the curvature
of the audience around the stage,
of the audience around the stage,
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veličina prostorije, zakrivljenost
publike oko pozornice,
publike oko pozornice,
12:42
it's the height of the room.
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visina prostorije.
12:45
Like I say, it's all that kind
of three-dimensional surface geometry
of three-dimensional surface geometry
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Kao što sam rekao, sve je to
neka vrsta trodimenzionalne geometrije
neka vrsta trodimenzionalne geometrije
12:49
all around me.
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svugdje oko mene.
12:50
CA: Well, Daniel, you have done
a spectacular job
a spectacular job
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CA: Pa, Daniel, učinio si
nevjerojatan posao
nevjerojatan posao
12:52
of helping us all see the world
in a different way.
in a different way.
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pomažući nam svima vidjeti
svijet na drugi način.
svijet na drugi način.
12:55
Thanks so much for that, truly.
DK: Thank you.
DK: Thank you.
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Hvala ti puno na tome, uistinu.
DK: Hvala tebi.
DK: Hvala tebi.
12:57
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Daniel Kish - Perceptual navigation specialistDaniel Kish expands the perceptual toolbox of both blind and sighted humans by teaching echolocation -- the ability to observe our surroundings via sound.
Why you should listen
When he was 13 months old, Daniel Kish lost both eyes to retinal cancer. Driven by fearless curiosity, he taught himself to navigate by clicking his tongue and listening for echoes -- a method science calls echolocation, and that Kish calls FlashSonar.
In 2000, Kish founded World Access for the Blind as a platform to teach FlashSonar, along with other methods that the blind can use to “see” and that the sighted can use to expand their awareness. Kish and many researchers believe that echolocation produces images similar to sight, and allows the visually impaired to transcend the limited expectations of society.
Daniel Kish | Speaker | TED.com