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Daniel Tammet: Different ways of knowing
Daniel Tamet: Različiti načini spoznaje
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Daniel Tamet ima jezičku, brojčanu i vizuelnu sinesteziju -- što znači da njegova percepcija reči, brojeva i boja predstavlja novi način gledanja i razumevanja sveta. Autor knjige 'Rođen plavog dana', Tament deli sa nama svoju umetnost i strast prema jezicima u ovom pogledu u njegov lepi um.
Daniel Tammet - Linguist, educator
Daniel Tammet is the author of "Born on a Blue Day," about his life with high-functioning autistic savant syndrome. He runs the language-learning site Optimnem, and his new book is "Embracing the Wide Sky: A Tour Across the Horizons of the Mind." Full bio
Daniel Tammet is the author of "Born on a Blue Day," about his life with high-functioning autistic savant syndrome. He runs the language-learning site Optimnem, and his new book is "Embracing the Wide Sky: A Tour Across the Horizons of the Mind." Full bio
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I'm a savant,
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Ja imam detaljno znanje o nesvakidašnjim stvarima,
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or more precisely,
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ili tačnije
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a high-functioning
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ja sam visoko-funkcionišući
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autistic savant.
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autistični poznavalac neobičnih stvari.
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It's a rare condition.
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To je retko stanje.
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And rarer still when accompanied,
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A još je ređi kada je,
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as in my case,
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kao u mom slučaju,
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by self-awareness
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propraćen samosvešću
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and a mastery of language.
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i izvanrednim vladanjem jezikom.
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Very often when I meet someone
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Često kada upoznam nekog
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and they learn this about me,
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i oni saznaju o mom stanju
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there's a certain kind of awkwardness.
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dolazi do određene nelagodnosti.
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I can see it in their eyes.
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Ja to vidim u njihovim očima.
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They want to ask me something.
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Oni bi hteli da me pitaju nešto.
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And in the end, quite often,
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I na kraju, vrlo često,
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the urge is stronger than they are
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nagon bude jači od njih
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and they blurt it out:
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i oni počnu da brbljaju:
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"If I give you my date of birth,
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'Ako vam kažem datum mog rođenja,
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can you tell me what day of the week I was born on?"
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da li možete da mi kažete kog dana u nedelji sam rođen?'
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Or they mention cube roots
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Ili pomenu kubne korene
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or ask me to recite a long number or long text.
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ili traže da im izrecitujem neki veliki broj ili dugačak tekst.
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I hope you'll forgive me
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Nadam se da ćete mi oprostiti
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if I don't perform
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ako ne budem danas izvodio za vas
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a kind of one-man savant show for you today.
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neku vrstu sveznalačke solo predstave.
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I'm going to talk instead
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Umesto toga,
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about something
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ja ću govoriti o nečemu
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far more interesting
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daleko interesantnijem
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than dates of birth or cube roots --
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od datuma i kubnih korena --
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a little deeper
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o nečem malo dubljem
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and a lot closer, to my mind, than work.
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i mnogo bližem mojoj svesti i mom poslu.
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I want to talk to you briefly
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Hteo bih da vam ukratko govorim
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about perception.
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o percepciji.
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When he was writing the plays and the short stories
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Kada je pisao svoje drame i kratke priče
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that would make his name,
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koje su ga učinile slavnim,
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Anton Chekhov kept a notebook
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Anton Čehov je imao notes
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in which he noted down
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u kome je beležio
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his observations
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svoja opažanja
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of the world around him --
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sveta oko sebe --
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little details
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male detalje
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that other people seem to miss.
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koje ostali ljudi, čini se, ne primećuju.
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Every time I read Chekhov
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Svaki put kad čitam Čehova
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and his unique vision of human life,
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i njegovu jedinstvenu viziju ljudskog života,
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I'm reminded of why I too
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ja se prisetim razloga zbog kog sam ja takođe
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became a writer.
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postao pisac.
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In my books,
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U mojim knjigama,
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I explore the nature of perception
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ja istražujem prirodu percepcije
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and how different kinds of perceiving
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i na koji način različite vrste percepcije
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create different kinds of knowing
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stvaraju različite vrste znanja
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and understanding.
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i razumevanja.
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Here are three questions
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Evo tri pitanja
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drawn from my work.
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koja su proizašla iz mog rada.
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Rather than try to figure them out,
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Umesto da vam tražim da nađete tačan odgovor,
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I'm going to ask you to consider for a moment
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tražiću od vas da se na trenutak
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the intuitions
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prepustite svojim intuicijama,
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and the gut instincts
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instinktivnim reakcijama
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that are going through your head and your heart
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koje vam prolaze kroz mozak i srce
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as you look at them.
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dok ih gledate.
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For example, the calculation:
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Na primer, ova računica.
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can you feel where on the number line
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Da li imate osećaj gde će na brojnom kontinuumu
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the solution is likely to fall?
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najverovatnije biti rešenje?
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Or look at the foreign word and the sounds:
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Ili pogledajte ovu stranu reč i kako zvuči.
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can you get a sense of the range of meanings
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Da li imate osećaj za raspon značenja
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that it's pointing you towards?
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na koje vam ona ukazuje?
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And in terms of the line of poetry,
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I kad govorimo o stihu u poeziji,
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why does the poet use the word hare
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zašto pesnik koristi reč 'hare' (zec)
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rather than rabbit?
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umesto reči 'rabbit' (zec)?
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I'm asking you to do this
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Tražim od vas da to uradite
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because I believe our personal perceptions, you see,
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zato što verujem da su naše lične percepcije, vidite,
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are at the heart
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u suštini toga
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of how we acquire knowledge.
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kako mi dolazimo do saznanja.
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Aesthetic judgments,
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Estetski sudovi,
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rather than abstract reasoning,
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a ne apstraktno rezonovanje,
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guide and shape the process
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vode i oblikuju proces
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by which we all come to know
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kojim mi saznajemo
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what we know.
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sve što znamo.
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I'm an extreme example of this.
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Ja sam jedan ekstremni primer toga.
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My worlds of words and numbers
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Moji svetovi reči i brojeva se
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blur with color, emotion
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prelivaju jedan u drugi bojom, osećanjem
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and personality.
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i karakterom.
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As Juan said,
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Kao što je Huan rekao,
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it's the condition that scientists call synesthesia,
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to stanje svesti koje naučnici nazivaju sinestezija,
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an unusual cross-talk
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je jedan neobičan dijalog
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between the senses.
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među čulima.
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Here are the numbers one to 12
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Ovo su brojevi od 1 do 12
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as I see them --
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kako ih ja vidim --
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every number with its own shape and character.
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svaki broj sa svojim posebnim oblikom i karakterom.
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One is a flash of white light.
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Broj jedan je eksplozija bele svetlosti.
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Six is a tiny and very sad black hole.
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Šest je mala i veoma tužna crna rupa.
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The sketches are in black and white here,
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Ovi crteži su ovde crno-beli,
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but in my mind they have colors.
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ali u mojoj glavi oni imaju boju.
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Three is green.
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Tri je zeleno.
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Four is blue.
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Četiri je plavo.
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Five is yellow.
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Pet je žuto.
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I paint as well.
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Ja takođe slikam.
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And here is one of my paintings.
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I ovo je jedna od mojih slika.
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It's a multiplication of two prime numbers.
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Ovo su pomnožena dva prosta broja.
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Three-dimensional shapes
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Trodimenzionalni oblici
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and the space they create in the middle
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i prostor koji oni stvaraju u sredini
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creates a new shape,
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stvara novi oblik,
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the answer to the sum.
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koji je rezultat njihovog zbira.
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What about bigger numbers?
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A šta je sa dužim brojevima?
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Well you can't get much bigger than Pi,
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Nema dužeg broja od Pi,
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the mathematical constant.
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matematičke konstante.
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It's an infinite number --
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To je beskrajan broj --
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literally goes on forever.
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bukvalno se nastavlja zauvek.
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In this painting that I made
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Na ovoj slici na kojoj sam naslikao
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of the first 20 decimals of Pi,
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prvih dvadeset decimala broja Pi,
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I take the colors
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uzeo sam boje
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and the emotions and the textures
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i osećanja i teksturu
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and I pull them all together
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i pomešao sam ih
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into a kind of rolling numerical landscape.
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u neku vrstu odmotavajućeg numeričkog pejzaža.
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But it's not only numbers that I see in colors.
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Međutim, brojevi nisu jedina stvar koju vidim u boji.
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Words too, for me,
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Za mene reči takođe
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have colors and emotions
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imaju i boju i emociju
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and textures.
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i teksturu.
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And this is an opening phrase
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Ovo je prva rečenica
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from the novel "Lolita."
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romana 'Lolita'.
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And Nabokov was himself synesthetic.
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Nabokov je takođe imao sinesteziju.
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And you can see here
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I možete da vidite ovde
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how my perception of the sound L
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kako moja percepcija zvuka 'L'
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helps the alliteration
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pomaže da aliteracija
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to jump right out.
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bude očigledna.
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Another example:
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Još jedan primer:
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a little bit more mathematical.
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malo više matematički.
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And I wonder if some of you will notice
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I pitam se da li će neki od vas primetiti
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the construction of the sentence
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konstrukciju rečenice
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from "The Great Gatsby."
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iz 'Velikog Getsbija'.
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There is a procession of syllables --
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Postoji čitava parada slogova --
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wheat, one;
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pšenica, jedan;
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prairies, two;
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prerije, dva;
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lost Swede towns, three --
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izgubljeni gradovi Šveda, tri --
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one, two, three.
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jedan, dva, tri.
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And this effect is very pleasant on the mind,
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I ovaj efekat je jako prijatan za um,
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and it helps the sentence
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i pomaže da rečenica
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to feel right.
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stvara dobar osećaj.
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Let's go back to the questions
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Hajde da se vratimo na pitanja
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I posed you a moment ago.
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koja sam vam postavio pre neki momenat.
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64 multiplied by 75.
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64 pomnoženo sa 75.
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If some of you play chess,
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Ako neko od vas igra šah
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you'll know that 64
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taj će znati da je 64
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is a square number,
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kvadratni broj
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and that's why chessboards,
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i zato šahovske table,
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eight by eight,
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osam puta osam,
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have 64 squares.
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imaju 64 kvadrata.
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So that gives us a form
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I to nam daje formu koju
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that we can picture, that we can perceive.
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možemo da zamislimo, možemo da je percipiramo.
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What about 75?
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A 75?
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Well if 100,
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Dobro, ako 100,
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if we think of 100 as being like a square,
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ako mislimo o broju 100 da je kao kvadrat,
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75 would look like this.
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75 bi izgledalo ovako.
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So what we need to do now
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Dakle ono što mi treba da uradimo sada
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is put those two pictures
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je da spojimo ove dve slike
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together in our mind --
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zajedno u našoj glavi --
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something like this.
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ovako nekako.
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64 becomes 6,400.
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64 postane 6.400.
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And in the right-hand corner,
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I u desnom uglu,
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you don't have to calculate anything.
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ne treba ništa da računate.
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Four across, four up and down --
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Četiri vodoravno, četiri gore i dole --
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it's 16.
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to je 16.
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So what the sum is actually asking you to do
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Tako da sve što je potrebno da uradite za zbir
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is 16,
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je 16,
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16, 16.
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16, 16.
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That's a lot easier
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To je mnogo lakše nego
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than the way that the school taught you to do math, I'm sure.
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kako su vas učili u školi da radite matematiku, siguran sam.
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It's 16, 16, 16, 48,
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To je 16, 16, 16, 48,
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4,800 --
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4.800 --
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4,800,
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4.800,
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the answer to the sum.
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toliki je zbir.
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Easy when you know how.
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Lako je kad znaš kako.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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The second question was an Icelandic word.
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Drugo pitanje je bila reč na Islandskom.
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I'm assuming there are not many people here
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Pretpostavljam da nema mnogo ljudi ovde
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who speak Icelandic.
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koji govore Islandski.
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So let me narrow the choices down to two.
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Dozvolite mi da suzim vaš izbor na dve mogućnosti.
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Hnugginn:
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Hungginn:
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is it a happy word,
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da li je to srećna reč,
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or a sad word?
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ili tužna reč?
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What do you say?
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Šta kažete?
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Okay.
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Dobro.
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Some people say it's happy.
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Neki ljudi kažu da je srećna.
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Most people, a majority of people,
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Više ljudi, većina ljudi
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say sad.
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kaže da je tužna.
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And it actually means sad.
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I ona zapravo znači 'tužan'.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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Why do, statistically,
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Zašto, statistički,
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a majority of people
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većina ljudi
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say that a word is sad, in this case,
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kaže da je reč tužna u ovom slučaju,
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heavy in other cases?
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teška u drugim slučajevima?
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In my theory, language evolves in such a way
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Prema mojoj teoriji, jezik evolvira na taj način
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that sounds match,
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da se zvuci podudaraju,
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correspond with, the subjective,
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slažu se sa subjektivnim,
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with the personal,
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sa ličnim
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intuitive experience
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intuitivnim iskustvom
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of the listener.
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slušaoca.
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Let's have a look at the third question.
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Hajde da pogledamo treće pitanje.
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It's a line from a poem by John Keats.
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Ovo je stih iz pesme Džona Kitsa.
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Words, like numbers,
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Reči, kao i brojevi,
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express fundamental relationships
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izražavaju bazične odnose
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between objects
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među objektima
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and events and forces
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događajima i silama
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that constitute our world.
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koje sačinjavaju naš svet.
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It stands to reason that we, existing in this world,
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Racionalno je očekivati da ćemo mi, živeći u ovom svetu,
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should in the course of our lives
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u toku svojih života
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absorb intuitively those relationships.
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intuitivno shvatiti te odnose.
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And poets, like other artists,
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I pesnici se, kao i ostali umetnici
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play with those intuitive understandings.
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igraju sa tim intuitivnim razumevanjem.
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In the case of hare,
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U slučaju 'hare',
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it's an ambiguous sound in English.
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to je jedan dvosmislen zvuk na engleskom jeziku.
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It can also mean the fibers that grow from a head.
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Može da znači 'zec' ali takodje i vlati koje izrastaju iz glave.
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And if we think of that --
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Ako malo razmislimo o tome --
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let me put the picture up --
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dozvolite da stavim sliku --
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the fibers represent vulnerability.
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vlakna predstavljaju ranjivost.
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They yield to the slightest movement
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Ona reaguju na najmanji pokret
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or motion or emotion.
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ili emociju.
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So what you have is an atmosphere
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I tako na kraju dobijete atmosferu
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of vulnerability and tension.
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ranjivosti i tenzije.
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The hare itself, the animal --
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Sam zec, životinja --
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not a cat, not a dog, a hare --
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ne mačka, ne pas, već zec --
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why a hare?
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zašto zec?
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Because think of the picture --
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Ako zamislite sliku,
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not the word, the picture.
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ne reč, već sliku.
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The overlong ears,
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Preduge uši,
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the overlarge feet,
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prevelika stopala,
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helps us to picture, to feel intuitively,
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pomaže nam da zamislimo, da intuitivno osetimo,
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what it means to limp
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šta je to hramati
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and to tremble.
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i drhtati.
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So in these few minutes,
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Nadam se da sam u ovih nekoliko minuta
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I hope I've been able to share
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uspeo da vam predočim
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a little bit of my vision of things
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mali deo načina na koji ja vidim stvari,
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and to show you
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i da vam pokažem
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that words can have colors and emotions,
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da reči mogu da imaju boju i osećanja,
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numbers, shapes and personalities.
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a brojevi oblike i ličnost.
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The world is richer,
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Svet je bogatiji,
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vaster
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veći
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than it too often seems to be.
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nego što to često deluje da jeste.
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I hope that I've given you the desire
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Nadam se da sam izazvao želju u vama
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to learn to see the world with new eyes.
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da naučite da vidite svet novim očima.
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Thank you.
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Hvala.
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(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Daniel Tammet - Linguist, educatorDaniel Tammet is the author of "Born on a Blue Day," about his life with high-functioning autistic savant syndrome. He runs the language-learning site Optimnem, and his new book is "Embracing the Wide Sky: A Tour Across the Horizons of the Mind."
Why you should listen
Daniel Tammet is a writer, linguist and educator. He is the creator of Optimnem, a website that has provided language learning instruction to thousands around the globe. His 2006 memoir Born on a Blue Day describes his life with high-functioning autistic savant syndrome; his new book, Embracing the Wide Sky: A Tour Across the Horizons of the Mind, is a personal and scientific exploration of how the brain works and the differences and similarities between savant and non-savant minds.
Tammet set a European record on March 14, 2004, when he recited the mathematical constant pi (3.141...) to 22,514 decimal places from memory in a time of 5 hours, 9 minutes.
Daniel Tammet | Speaker | TED.com