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Jude Kelly: Why women should tell the stories of humanity
Džud Keli (Jude Kelly): Zašto bi žene trebalo da pričaju priče o čovečanstvu
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Tokom mnogih vekova (i iz raznih razloga) kritički priznat kreativni genijalac je uopšteno bio neko sa muškom perspektivom. Kao pozorišna rediteljka, Džud Keli u ovom strastveno argumentovanom govoru, ukazuje na iskrivljeni uticaj toga kako tumačimo čak i nefiktivne priče žena i njihovih prava. Ona smatra da postoji korisniji, inkluzivniji način da se posmatra svet i poziva umetnike - žene i muškarce - da oslikaju, nacrtaju, pišu o tome, snimaju i zamišljaju rodno jednako društvo.
Jude Kelly - Theater director, producer
Jude Kelly is artistic director of Southbank Centre, Britain’s largest cultural institution. Full bio
Jude Kelly is artistic director of Southbank Centre, Britain’s largest cultural institution. Full bio
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00:12
Why do we think
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Zašto mislimo
00:14
that stories by men are deemed
to be of universal importance,
to be of universal importance,
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da se za priče koje pričaju muškarci
smatra da imaju univerzalni značaj,
smatra da imaju univerzalni značaj,
00:19
and stories by women are thought
to be merely about women?
to be merely about women?
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a za priče koje pričaju žene
se smatra da su samo o ženama?
se smatra da su samo o ženama?
00:26
My grandmother left school
when she was 12.
when she was 12.
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Moja baka je napustila školu
kad joj je bilo 12 godina.
kad joj je bilo 12 godina.
00:29
She had 14 children.
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Imala je 14 dece.
00:32
My mother left school when she was 15.
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Moja majka je napustila školu sa 15.
00:34
She was a secretary.
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Bila je sekretarica.
00:35
I graduated from university
to become a theater director,
to become a theater director,
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Ja sam diplomirala na fakultetu
kako bih postala pozorišna rediteljka,
kako bih postala pozorišna rediteljka,
00:39
and that progress is entirely to do
with the fact that people I'll never meet
with the fact that people I'll never meet
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a taj napredak u potpunosti dugujem
činjenici da su se ljudi
koje nikad nisam upoznala
koje nikad nisam upoznala
00:43
fought for women to have rights,
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borili za prava žena,
00:45
get the vote, get education,
have progress.
have progress.
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da imaju pravo glasa,
obrazovanje, da napreduju.
obrazovanje, da napreduju.
00:49
And I'm determined to do the same,
and obviously you are, too.
and obviously you are, too.
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I ja sam odlučna da to isto radim,
a očigledno ste i vi.
a očigledno ste i vi.
00:52
Why not?
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Zašto ne?
00:53
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
00:55
So I started a festival called WOW,
Women of the World, seven years ago,
Women of the World, seven years ago,
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Pa sam osnovala festival nazvan WOW,
Žene sveta, pre sedam godina
Žene sveta, pre sedam godina
00:59
and it's now in 20 countries
across five continents.
across five continents.
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i trenutno se održava u 20 država
širom pet kontinenata.
širom pet kontinenata.
01:02
And one of those countries
is Somaliland in Africa.
is Somaliland in Africa.
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A jedna od tih država
je Somalilend u Africi.
je Somalilend u Africi.
01:05
So I traveled there last year,
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Pa sam prošle godine putovala tamo,
01:07
and part of the joy I had in going there
was going to these caves.
was going to these caves.
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a delimičan razlog moje radosti
što idem tamo je poseta ovim pećinama.
što idem tamo je poseta ovim pećinama.
01:14
The Laas Geel caves.
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Pećine Las Žil.
01:16
Now, these caves contain some
of the oldest cave paintings in the world.
of the oldest cave paintings in the world.
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Sad, ove pećine sadrže neke od najstarijih
pećinskih slika na svetu.
pećinskih slika na svetu.
01:22
These paintings are thought to be
round about 9,000 to 11,000 years old.
round about 9,000 to 11,000 years old.
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Smatra se da su ove slike
stare oko 9000 do 11000 godina.
stare oko 9000 do 11000 godina.
01:29
Art:
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Umetnost:
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what humanity has done
ever since it evolved.
ever since it evolved.
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nešto čime se čovečanstvo bavi
otkad je evoluiralo.
otkad je evoluiralo.
01:34
It's how we speak about ourselves,
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U vezi je s tim kako govorimo o sebi,
01:36
how we understand our identity,
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kako razumemo naše identitete,
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how we look at our surroundings,
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kako posmatramo naša okruženja,
01:40
who we find out about each other
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šta otkrivamo jedni o drugima
01:43
because of the meaning of our lives.
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zbog smisla naših života.
01:45
That's what art is for.
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Tome služi umetnost.
01:47
So look at this little picture.
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Pa, pogledajte ovu malu sliku.
01:49
I think it's a little girl.
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Mislim da se radi o devojčici.
01:51
I thought it was a bit like me
when I was a little girl.
when I was a little girl.
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Mislila sam kako malo liči na mene
kad sam bila devojčica.
kad sam bila devojčica.
01:55
And I thought, well, who painted
this joyful, youthful figure?
this joyful, youthful figure?
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Pa sam pomislila, dobro, ko je naslikao
ovu radosnu, mladalačku figuru?
ovu radosnu, mladalačku figuru?
01:59
And I asked the curator of the caves.
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Upitala sam kustosa pećina.
02:01
I said, "Tell me about the men
and women who painted these."
and women who painted these."
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Rekla sam: "Ispričajte mi o muškarcima
i ženama koji su ovo naslikali."
i ženama koji su ovo naslikali."
02:05
And he looked at me
absolutely askance, and he said,
absolutely askance, and he said,
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A on me je pogledao
skroz iskosa i rekao je:
skroz iskosa i rekao je:
02:08
"Women didn't paint these pictures."
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"Žene nisu naslikale ove slike."
02:11
And I said, "Well,
it was 11,000 years ago."
it was 11,000 years ago."
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A ja sam rekla: "Dobro,
to je bilo pre 11000 godina."
to je bilo pre 11000 godina."
02:13
I said, "How do you know?"
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Pitala sam: "Kako znate?"
02:15
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:17
And he said, "Women don't do these things.
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A on je rekao: "Žene
se ne bave ovim stvarima.
se ne bave ovim stvarima.
02:21
Men made these marks. Women don't."
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Muškarci su napravili ova obeležja.
Žene nisu."
Žene nisu."
02:26
Now, I wasn't really surprised,
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Sad, zaista nisam bila iznenađena
02:30
because that's an attitude
that I've seen continuously
that I've seen continuously
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jer je to stav koji sam više puta videla
02:34
all my life as a theater maker.
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u životu kao pozorišna stvarateljka.
02:38
We are told that divine knowledge
comes down through the masculine,
comes down through the masculine,
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Rečeno nam je da se božansko znanje
prenosi kroz muževnost,
prenosi kroz muževnost,
02:44
whether it be to the imam,
the priest, the rabbi, the holy man.
the priest, the rabbi, the holy man.
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bilo da se radi o imamu,
svešteniku, rabinu, svecu.
svešteniku, rabinu, svecu.
02:49
Similarly, we're told that creative genius
resides in the masculine,
resides in the masculine,
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Slično, rečeno nam je da kreativni genije
počiva u muževnosti,
počiva u muževnosti,
02:54
that it is the masculine
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da je muževnost ta
02:56
that will be able to tell us
about who we really are,
about who we really are,
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koja će moći da nam ispriča
o tome ko smo mi zaista,
o tome ko smo mi zaista,
02:59
that the masculine will tell
the universal story
the universal story
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da će muževnost
ispričati univerzalnu priču
ispričati univerzalnu priču
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on behalf of all of us,
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u ime svih nas,
03:04
whereas women artists will really
just talk about women's experiences,
just talk about women's experiences,
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dok će ženski umetnici zaista
samo govoriti o ženskim iskustvima,
samo govoriti o ženskim iskustvima,
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women's issues
only really relevant to women
only really relevant to women
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ženskim pitanjima
koja su važna jedino ženama
koja su važna jedino ženama
03:12
and of passing interest to men --
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i od nevelikog značaja za muškarce -
03:15
and really only some men.
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i zaista za samo neke muškarce.
03:17
And it's that conviction,
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A to ubeđenje,
03:20
that that we are taught,
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kojem nas uče,
03:21
that I think colors so much
of whether we're prepared to believe
of whether we're prepared to believe
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mislim da većim delom utiče
na to da li smo spremni da verujemo
na to da li smo spremni da verujemo
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that women's stories really matter.
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da su ženske priče zaista važne.
03:27
And unless we're prepared to believe
that women's stories really matter,
that women's stories really matter,
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A ako nismo spremni da verujemo
da su ženske priče zaista važne,
da su ženske priče zaista važne,
03:31
then women's rights don't really matter,
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onda ženska prava nisu zaista važna,
03:34
and then change can't really come.
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i onda zaista ne može da dođe do promene.
03:38
I want to tell you
about two examples of stories
about two examples of stories
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Želim da vam navedem primer dve priče
03:43
that are thought to be
of universal importance:
of universal importance:
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za koje se smatra
da imaju univerzalnu važnost:
da imaju univerzalnu važnost:
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"E.T." and "Hamlet."
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"E. T. vanzemaljac" i "Hamlet".
03:49
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:52
So I took my two children
when they were little --
when they were little --
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Dakle, povela sam svoje dvoje dece
kad su bili mali -
kad su bili mali -
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Caroline was eight and Robby was five --
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Karolin je imala osam, a Robi pet godina -
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to see "E.T."
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da vide "E. T. vanzemaljca".
04:00
And it's a fantastic story
of this little alien
of this little alien
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I to je fantastična priča
o tom malenom vanzemljcu
o tom malenom vanzemljcu
04:04
who ends up in an American family
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koji se zatekne u američkoj porodici
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with a mum, two brothers and a sister,
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sa majkom, dva brata i sestrom,
04:09
but he wants to go home.
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ali on želi da se vrati kući.
04:11
Not only that, but some
really bad scientists
really bad scientists
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Ne samo to, već neki zaista zli naučnici
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want to do some experiments on him,
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žele da vrše eksperimente nad njim,
04:16
and they're looking for him.
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te tragaju za njim.
04:18
So the children have a plot.
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Pa, deca imaju plan.
04:21
They decide they're going to take him
back to his spaceship
back to his spaceship
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Odlučuju da će da ga vrate
nazad u njegov svemirski brod
nazad u njegov svemirski brod
04:23
as soon as they can,
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čim mognu,
04:25
and they plop him in a bicycle basket,
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te ga ubace u korpu na biciklu
04:27
and off they ride.
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i odvezu se.
04:28
But unfortunately, the baddies
have found out, and they're catching up
have found out, and they're catching up
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Međutim, zloće su nažalost otkrile
i sustižu ih,
i sustižu ih,
04:32
and they've got sirens
and they've got their guns,
and they've got their guns,
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a oni imaju sirene i imaju svoje pištolje,
04:34
they've got the loud-hailers,
it's terribly frightening,
it's terribly frightening,
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imaju megafone, izuzetno je strašno,
04:37
and they're closing up on the children,
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i približavaju se deci
04:39
and the children are never
going to make it.
going to make it.
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i deca nemaju šanse da uspeju.
04:41
And then all of a sudden, magically,
the bikes fly up in the air,
the bikes fly up in the air,
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A onda iznenada, magično,
bicikl poleće u vazduh,
bicikl poleće u vazduh,
04:45
over the clouds,
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iznad oblaka,
04:47
over the moon,
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iznad meseca
04:48
and they're going to save "E.T."
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i spašavaju E. T.-a.
04:51
So I turn to see my children's faces,
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Pa sam se okrenula da vidim
lica moje dece,
lica moje dece,
04:53
and Robby is enraptured,
he's there with them, he's saving E.T.,
he's there with them, he's saving E.T.,
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Robi je bio ushićen,
s njima je, spašava E. T.-a,
s njima je, spašava E. T.-a,
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he's a happy boy.
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srećan je dečak.
05:00
And I turn to Caroline,
and she's crying her eyes out.
and she's crying her eyes out.
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Okrećem se ka Karolini,
a ona plače iz dna duše.
a ona plače iz dna duše.
05:03
And I said, "What's the matter?"
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Pitam: "Šta nije u redu?"
05:05
And she said, "Why can't I save E.T.?
Why can't I come?"
Why can't I come?"
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A ona kaže: "Zašto ja ne mogu da spasim
E. T.-a? Zašto ja ne mogu da pođem?"
E. T.-a? Zašto ja ne mogu da pođem?"
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And then all of a sudden I realized:
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A onda sam iznenada shvatila:
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they weren't children;
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to nisu bila deca;
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they were boys --
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bili su dečaci -
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all boys.
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svi su bili dečaci.
05:19
And Caroline, who had invested
so much in E.T.,
so much in E.T.,
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A Karolina koja se toliko
saživela sa E. T.-om,
saživela sa E. T.-om,
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well, she wasn't invited to save him,
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pa, nju nisu pozvali da ga spasi,
05:25
and she felt humiliated and spurned.
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pa se osećala poniženom i odbačenom.
05:28
So I wrote to Steven Spielberg --
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Pa sam pisala Stivenu Spilbergu -
05:30
(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Smeh) (Aplauz)
05:36
and I said, "I don't know
if you understand
if you understand
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i rekla sam: "Ne znam da li razumete
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the psychological importance
of what's happened,
of what's happened,
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psihološki značaj onoga što se desilo
05:41
and are you prepared to pay
for the therapy bills?"
for the therapy bills?"
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i da li ste spremni da platite
račune za terapiju?"
račune za terapiju?"
05:43
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:45
Twenty years later, I haven't
had a word back from him,
had a word back from him,
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Dvadeset godina kasnije,
još mi ni reč od njega nije stigla,
još mi ni reč od njega nije stigla,
05:48
but I'm still hopeful.
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ali se i dalje nadam.
05:49
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:51
But I thought it was interesting,
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Ali bilo mi je zanimljivo
05:53
because if you read reviews
of what he intended with E.T.,
of what he intended with E.T.,
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jer ako pročitate recenzije
o tome šta je želeo sa E. T.-om,
o tome šta je želeo sa E. T.-om,
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he says very specifically,
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veoma jasno kaže:
05:57
"I wanted the world to understand
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"Želeo sam da svet razume
06:00
that we should love
and embrace difference."
and embrace difference."
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da bi trebalo da volimo
i prihvatimo različitost."
i prihvatimo različitost."
06:03
But somehow he didn't include
the idea of girls' difference
the idea of girls' difference
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Ali nekako nije uključio
ideju o različitosti devojčica
ideju o različitosti devojčica
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in this thinking.
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u svom razmišljanju.
06:09
He thought he was writing a story
about all humanity.
about all humanity.
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Mislio je da piše priču
o čitavom čovečanstvu.
o čitavom čovečanstvu.
06:14
Caroline thought he was marginalizing
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Karolin je smatrala da je marginalizovao
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half of humanity.
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polovinu čovečanstva.
06:17
He thought he was writing a story
about human goodness;
about human goodness;
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Mislio je da piše priču
o ljudskoj dobroti;
o ljudskoj dobroti;
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she thought he was writing
a lad's heroic adventure.
a lad's heroic adventure.
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ona je smatrala da je napisao
junačku avanturu za momke.
junačku avanturu za momke.
06:26
And this is common.
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A to je uobičajeno.
06:28
Men feel they have been given the mantle
for universal communication,
for universal communication,
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Muškarci osećaju da im je dat plašt
za univerzalnu komunikaciju,
za univerzalnu komunikaciju,
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but of course, how could they be?
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ali naravno, kako je to moguće?
06:35
They are writing from male experience
through male's eyes.
through male's eyes.
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Oni pišu iz muškog iskustva,
kroz muške oči.
kroz muške oči.
06:42
We have to have a look at this ourselves.
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Mi sami to moramo da prozremo.
06:44
We have to be prepared to go back
through all our books and our films,
through all our books and our films,
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Moramo da budemo spremni da se vratimo
kroz sve naše knjige i filmove,
kroz sve naše knjige i filmove,
06:47
all our favorite things,
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sve naše omiljene stvari
06:49
and say, "Actually, this is written
by a male artist --
by a male artist --
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i kažemo: "Ovo je zapravo
napisao umetnik muškarac -
napisao umetnik muškarac -
06:52
not an artist.
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a ne umetnik."
06:54
We have to see
that so many of these stories
that so many of these stories
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Moramo da shvatimo
da je veliki broj ovih priča
da je veliki broj ovih priča
06:56
are written through a male perspective.
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napisano iz muške perspektive.
06:58
Which is fine,
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Što je u redu,
07:00
but then females need to have
50 percent of the rights
50 percent of the rights
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ali onda žene moraju da imaju
50 procenata prava
50 procenata prava
07:04
for the stage, the film, the novel,
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na scenu, film, roman,
07:06
the place of creativity.
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mesto za kreativnost.
07:09
Let me talk about "Hamlet."
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Sad ću da govorim o "Hamletu".
07:11
To be or not to be.
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Biti ili ne biti.
07:13
That is the question.
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Pitanje je sada.
07:14
But it's not my question.
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Ali to nije moje pitanje.
07:16
My question is: Why was I taught
as a young woman
as a young woman
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Moje pitanje je: zašto su me
podučavali kao mladu ženu
podučavali kao mladu ženu
07:20
that this was the quintessential
example of human dilemma
example of human dilemma
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da je to suštinski primer ljudske dileme
07:24
and human experience?
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i ljudskog iskustva?
07:26
It's a marvelous story,
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To je veličanstvena priča,
07:28
but actually, it's about a young man
fearful that he won't be able to make it
fearful that he won't be able to make it
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ali zapravo se radi o mladiću
koji se plaši da neće uspeti
koji se plaši da neće uspeti
07:33
as a powerful figure in a male world
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kao moćna ličnost u svetu muškaraca,
07:36
unless he takes revenge
for his father's murder.
for his father's murder.
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ako se ne osveti za ubistvo oca.
07:39
He talks a great deal to us
about suicide being an option,
about suicide being an option,
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Mnogo nam govori
o tome kako je samoubistvo opcija,
o tome kako je samoubistvo opcija,
07:44
but the reality is that the person
who actually commits suicide, Ophelia,
who actually commits suicide, Ophelia,
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ali u stvarnsti osoba koja zapravo
izvršava samoubistvo je Ofelija,
izvršava samoubistvo je Ofelija,
07:48
after she's been humiliated
and abused by him,
and abused by him,
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nakon što ju je on ponizio i zlostavljao,
07:51
never gets a chance to talk
to the audience about her feelings.
to the audience about her feelings.
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ona nikad ne dobija priliku
da publici iskaže svoja osećanja.
da publici iskaže svoja osećanja.
07:54
And then when he's finished with Ophelia,
he turns on his mum,
he turns on his mum,
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A onda, čim završi s Ofelijom,
okreće se protiv majke
okreće se protiv majke
07:57
because basically she has the audacity
to fall in love with his uncle
to fall in love with his uncle
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jer u suštini ima odvažnosti
da se zaljubi u njegovog ujaka
da se zaljubi u njegovog ujaka
08:00
and enjoy sex.
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i da uživa u seksu.
08:02
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:04
It is a great story,
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To je sjajna priča,
08:06
but it is a story about male conflict,
male dilemma, male struggle.
male dilemma, male struggle.
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ali je priča o muškom sukobu,
muškoj dilemi, muškoj borbi.
muškoj dilemi, muškoj borbi.
08:12
But I was told this was the story
of human beings,
of human beings,
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Međutim, rečeno mi je
da je ovo priča o ljudskim bićima,
da je ovo priča o ljudskim bićima,
08:16
despite the fact that it only
had two women in it.
had two women in it.
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uprkos činjenici da sadrži svega dve žene.
08:19
And unless I reeducate myself,
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I, ukoliko se ne preobrazujem,
08:22
I am always going to think
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uvek ću da mislim
08:23
that women's stories
matter less than men's.
matter less than men's.
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da ženske priče manje vrede od muških.
08:28
A woman could have written "Hamlet,"
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Žena je mogla da napiše "Hamleta",
08:29
but she would have written it differently,
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ali bi ga napisala drugačije
08:32
and it wouldn't have had
global recognition.
global recognition.
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i ne bi bio priznat širom sveta.
08:34
As the writer Margaret Atwood says,
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Kako je spisateljica Margaret Atvud rekla:
08:36
"When a man writes about doing the dishes,
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"Kada muškarac piše o pranju suda,
08:39
it's realism.
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to je realizam.
08:41
When a woman writes about doing it,
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Kada žena piše o tom iskustvu,
08:43
it's an unfortunate genetic disposition."
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radi se o nesrećnom genetskom nedostatku."
08:46
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:47
Now, this is not just something
that belongs to then.
that belongs to then.
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Sad, nije to nešto što pripada prošlosti.
08:51
I mean, when I was a young girl,
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Mislim, kad sam bila mlada,
08:52
wanting desperately
to be a theater director,
to be a theater director,
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očajno želeći da budem
pozorišna rediteljka,
pozorišna rediteljka,
08:55
this is what my male lecturer said to me:
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evo šta mi je rekao predavač muškarac:
08:58
"Well, there are three women
directors in Britain," he said, "Jude."
directors in Britain," he said, "Jude."
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"Pa, imamo tri ženska reditelja
u Britaniji", rekao je, "Džud."
u Britaniji", rekao je, "Džud."
09:02
"There's Joan Knight, who's a lesbian,
there's Joan Littlewood, who's retired,
there's Joan Littlewood, who's retired,
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"Imamo Džoan Najt, koja je lezbejka,
imamo Džoan Litlvud, koja je u penziji
imamo Džoan Litlvud, koja je u penziji
09:06
and there's Buzz Goodbody,
who's just killed herself.
who's just killed herself.
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i imamo Baz Gudbadi, koja se upravo ubila.
09:09
So, which of those three
would you like to be?"
would you like to be?"
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Dakle, koja od ove tri
bi ti želela da budeš?"
bi ti želela da budeš?"
09:11
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:12
Now, leaving aside
the disgusting slur on gay women,
the disgusting slur on gay women,
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Sad, ostavljajući po strani
odvratno klevetanje gej žena,
odvratno klevetanje gej žena,
09:17
the fact is, he wanted to humiliate me.
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činjenica je da je želeo da me ponizi.
09:20
He thought it was silly
that I wanted to be a director.
that I wanted to be a director.
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Mislio je da je smešno
što želim da budem rediteljka.
što želim da budem rediteljka.
Rekla sam to prijateljici Marin Alsop,
dirigentkinji, a ona je rekla:
dirigentkinji, a ona je rekla:
09:24
And I told my friend Marin Alsop,
the conductor, and she said,
the conductor, and she said,
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09:27
"Oh yes, well, my music teacher
said exactly the same.
said exactly the same.
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"Ah, da, moj nastavnik muzičkog
mi je rekao to isto.
mi je rekao to isto.
09:29
He said, 'Women don't conduct.'"
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Rekao je: 'Žene ne diriguju.'"
09:32
But all these years later,
we've made our mark.
we've made our mark.
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Ali sve ove godine kasnije,
ostavile smo svoj trag.
ostavile smo svoj trag.
09:35
You think, "Well, it'll be different now."
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Pomislili biste: "Pa, sad je drugačije."
09:37
I'm afraid it's not different now.
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Plašim se da sad nije drugačije.
09:40
The current head
of the Paris Conservatoire
of the Paris Conservatoire
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Trenutni starešina
Pariskog konzervatorijuma
Pariskog konzervatorijuma
09:43
said recently, "It takes
great physical strength
great physical strength
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je nedavno rekao: "Potrebna
je velika fizička snaga
je velika fizička snaga
09:47
to conduct a symphony,
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da se diriguje simfonijom,
09:48
and women are too weak."
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a žene su suviše slabe."
09:50
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:51
The artist George Baselitz said,
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Umetnik Džordž Bazelic je rekao:
09:53
"Well, the fact is women can't paint.
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"Pa, činjenica je da žene
ne znaju da slikaju.
ne znaju da slikaju.
09:55
Well -- they can't paint very well."
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Pa - ne naročito dobro."
09:58
The writer V.S. Naipaul
said two years ago,
said two years ago,
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Pisac V. S. Nipol je pre dve godine rekao:
10:00
"I can read two paragraphs and know
immediately if it's written by a woman,
immediately if it's written by a woman,
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"Mogu da pročitam dva paragrafa
i da odmah znam da je pisac žena
i da odmah znam da je pisac žena
10:04
and I just stop reading,
because it's not worthy of me."
because it's not worthy of me."
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i prosto prestajem da čitam
jer je to ispod mene."
jer je to ispod mene."
10:06
Audience: Whoa!
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Publika: Ua.
10:09
And it goes on.
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Ima toga još.
10:12
We have to find a way
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Moramo da pronađemo način
10:15
of stopping young girls and women
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da zaustavimo devojke i žene
10:17
feeling not only that
their story doesn't matter,
their story doesn't matter,
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da se osećaju, ne samo
da njihova priča nije važna,
da njihova priča nije važna,
10:20
but they're not allowed
to be the storyteller.
to be the storyteller.
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već da im nije dozvoljeno
da budu pripovedači.
da budu pripovedači.
10:24
Because once you feel
that you can't stand in the central space
that you can't stand in the central space
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Jer čim osećate da ne možete
da budete u centru pažnje
da budete u centru pažnje
10:28
and speak on behalf of the world,
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i da govorite u ime sveta,
10:31
you will feel that you can offer
your goods up to a small, select group.
your goods up to a small, select group.
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osećate da možete da nudite
svoja dobra maloj, odabranoj grupi.
svoja dobra maloj, odabranoj grupi.
10:36
You will tend to do smaller work
on smaller stages,
on smaller stages,
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Radićete manje poslove
na manjim scenama,
na manjim scenama,
10:39
your economic power will be less,
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vaša ekonomska snaga će da bude manja,
10:41
your reach of audiences will be less,
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dostupnost publike će da bude manja
10:44
and your credit will be less as an artist.
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i manje će vas ceniti kao umetnika.
10:49
And we do finally give artists
these incredible, prominent spaces
these incredible, prominent spaces
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A konačno pružamo umetnicima
neverovatne, ugledne prostore
neverovatne, ugledne prostore
10:54
in the world,
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u svetu
10:56
because they are our storytellers.
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jer su oni naši pripovedači.
10:57
Now, why should it matter to you
if you're not an artist?
if you're not an artist?
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Sad, zašto bi vam bilo važno,
ako niste umetnik?
ako niste umetnik?
11:00
Supposing you're an accountant
or an entrepreneur or a medic
or an entrepreneur or a medic
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Pretpostavimo da ste računovođa
ili preduzetnik ili lekar
ili preduzetnik ili lekar
11:04
or a scientist:
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ili naučnik:
11:05
Should you care about women artists?
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da li bi trebalo da marite
za žene umetnike?
za žene umetnike?
11:08
Absolutely, you must,
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Apsolutno, morate
11:10
because as you can see
from the cave paintings,
from the cave paintings,
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jer, kao što vidite, sa pećinskih slika,
11:13
all civilizations,
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sve civilizacije,
11:15
all of humanity
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celokupno čovečanstvo
11:18
have relied upon artists
to tell the human story,
to tell the human story,
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se oslanjalo na umetnike
da ispričaju ljudske priče,
da ispričaju ljudske priče,
11:22
and if the human story
is finally told by men,
is finally told by men,
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a ako ljudsku priču
na kraju ispripoveda muškarac,
na kraju ispripoveda muškarac,
11:25
take my word for it,
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verujte mi na reč,
11:27
it will be about men.
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biće o muškracima.
11:29
So let's make a change.
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Zato donesimo promenu.
11:32
Let's make a change
to all our institutions,
to all our institutions,
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Donesimo promenu u sve institucije,
11:34
and not just in the West.
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i ne samo na Zapadu.
11:35
Don't forget -- this message
of incapability of women
of incapability of women
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Ne zaboravite - ovu poruku
o nesposobnosti žena
o nesposobnosti žena
11:40
to hold creative genius
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da sadrže kreativnu genijalnost
11:42
is being told to girls and women
in Nigeria, in China, in Russia,
in Nigeria, in China, in Russia,
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govore devojkama i ženama
u Nigeriji, u Kini, u Rusiji,
u Nigeriji, u Kini, u Rusiji,
11:47
in Indonesia.
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u Indoneziji.
11:48
All over the world, girls
and women are being told
and women are being told
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Širom sveta, devojkama i ženama govore
11:51
that they can't finally hold the idea
of creative inspiration.
of creative inspiration.
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da uopšte ne mogu da imaju zamisao
o kreativnoj inspiraciji.
o kreativnoj inspiraciji.
11:57
And I want to ask you:
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I ja želim da vas pitam:
11:58
Do you believe that?
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Da li verujete u to?
12:00
Do you believe that women
can be a creative genius?
can be a creative genius?
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Da li verujete da žene
ne mogu da budu kreativni genijalci?
ne mogu da budu kreativni genijalci?
12:05
(Applause and cheers)
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(Aplauz i klicanje)
12:10
Well then, please go forward,
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Pa, onda, molim vas, istupite,
12:12
support women artists,
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podržite umetnice,
12:14
buy their work,
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kupujte njihova dela,
12:16
insist that their voices are heard,
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insistirajte da im se glasovi čuju,
12:18
find platforms on which
their voices will be made.
their voices will be made.
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pronađite platforme na kojima
će njihovi glasovi da se oblikuju.
će njihovi glasovi da se oblikuju.
12:22
And remember this:
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I setite se ovoga:
12:24
that in a sense, if we're going
to get past this moment
to get past this moment
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da, na neki način,
ako ćemo da prevaziđemo trenutak
ako ćemo da prevaziđemo trenutak
12:27
of a world where we know
that we are unequal,
that we are unequal,
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u svetu gde znamo da nismo jednaki,
12:31
it's artists who have to imagine
a different world.
a different world.
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umetnici su ti koji moraju
da zamisle drugačiji svet.
da zamisle drugačiji svet.
12:34
And I'm calling on all artists,
women and men,
women and men,
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I pozivam sve umetnike, žene i muškarce,
12:38
to imagine a gender-equal world.
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da zamisle rodno jednak svet.
12:42
Let's paint it. Let's draw it.
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Oslikajmo ga. Nacrtajmo ga.
12:44
Let's write about it. Let's film it.
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Pišimo o njemu. Snimimo ga.
12:46
And if we could imagine it,
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A ako možemo da ga zamislimo,
12:48
then we would have the energy
and the stamina
and the stamina
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onda ćemo da imamo
energije i izdržljivosti
energije i izdržljivosti
12:51
to work towards it.
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da mu delamo u susret.
12:53
When I see this little girl,
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Kada pogledam ovu devojčicu,
12:55
11,000 years ago,
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od pre 11.000 godina,
12:57
I want to know that the little girl now
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želim da znam da ta devojčica trenutno
13:01
can stand there and think
she's entitled to her dreams,
she's entitled to her dreams,
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može da stoji tu i misli
da ima pravo na svoje snove,
da ima pravo na svoje snove,
13:04
she's entitled to her destiny
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da ima pravo na svoju sudbinu
13:07
and she's entitled to speak
on behalf of the whole world,
on behalf of the whole world,
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i da ima pravo da govori
u ime čitavog sveta,
u ime čitavog sveta,
13:11
be recognized for it
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da bude prepoznata po tome
13:13
and applauded.
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i da joj aplaudiraju.
13:14
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
13:16
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Jude Kelly - Theater director, producerJude Kelly is artistic director of Southbank Centre, Britain’s largest cultural institution.
Why you should listen
Jude Kelly was appointed artistic director of Southbank Centre, Britain's largest cultural institution, in 2006.
She founded Solent People's Theatre and Battersea Arts Centre, and was the founding director of the West Yorkshire Playhouse. In 1997, she was awarded an OBE for her services to theatre, and in 2015 she was made a CBE in the New Year honours for services to the Arts. She has directed over 100 productions from the Royal Shakespeare Company to the Châtalet in Paris.
In 2002, Kelly founded Metal, a platform where artistic hunches can be pursued in community contexts, with bases in Liverpool, Southend-On-Sea and Peterborough. She led the cultural team for the successful London 2012 Olympic and Paralympic bid and then served on the Board of the cultural Olympiad. She is a regular broadcaster and commentator on a range of issues relating to society, art and education.
Kelly created the WOW – Women of the World Festival in 2011. In 2011 she created the WOW: Women of the World Festival, now heading into its 7th year at Southbank Centre as well as in other parts of the UK and in countries all over the world.
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