ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Guillaume Néry - World champion freediver
With just one breath, Guillaume Néry can dive to -125m below the water's surface.

Why you should listen

Guillaume Néry is a French freediving champion, specializing in deep diving. As a multiple world record holder and the double reigning world champion, Guillaume's goals go well beyond the simple realm of sport. With a perfect combination of aesthetics, performance, films and exploration, Guillaume practices his discipline like an art form — it has become his way of life.

Guillaume grew up by the Mediterranean Sea, in Nice. As a child, he used to go diving every summer with his flippers and mask, accompanied by his father, to discover the wonders of the underwater world. At the age of 14, he and a friend took up a challenge: to hold their breath for as long as possible. The simple game became an obsession and led him one day to meet Claude Chapuis, the founder of the international AIDA federation (Worldwide Federation for breath-hold diving). Claude became Guillaume’s mentor.

True to the Nice school of diving, Guillaume devoted all his time and energy to his passion. He made huge progress when working alongside Loic Leferme (5x No-Limits world record holder), who later became a role model, guide and close friend.

In 2002, he became the youngest ever freedive record holder, by diving to a depth of -87m using the force of his fins alone. That marked the beginning of a great adventure. Guillaume then beat the world record 3 times, became the world team champion in 2008 and the individual world champion in Greece in 2011, diving down to -117m. Nowadays, he dives until -125m of depth, the new French record

Guillaume also teaches deep diving at his school, CIPA (in Nice), conducts training, is involved in business life and sets sail across the world's oceans searching for new areas to explore.

However, it was thanks to the film he produced in 2010 with his partner Julie Gautier, Free Fall, that the Frenchman's career truly took off. One scene shows Guillaume walking on a seabed, towards an underwater chasm: the Deans Blue Hole (Bahamas), the deepest blue hole in the world. Suddenly, he jumps into emptiness and starts his free fall into the chasm. In just a few days, these images had been seen all around the world, revealing a new, artistic and poetic approach to freediving.

Since then, the couple has carried out a number of other film projects, including Narcoses or, recently, Ocean Gravity. They also launched their own website dedicated to all their creations: www.lesfilmsengloutis.com

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Guillaume Néry: The exhilarating peace of freediving

纪尧姆·纳里: 两次呼吸间旅行的启示

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这是一次美丽的旅程,潜水123米之后来解释身体发生了什么和头脑中的感觉。潜水是在水下的完全放松,是人类在自然力量的驱动下让现在的自己和冰冷,蓝色的深不可测的大海相连。最后,由于我们的呼吸不能让我们潜水更远,纪尧姆·纳里鼓励我们带上潜水面具,脚蹼,看着下面的世界,内心世界,因为我们的起源就来自我们这个蓝色的海洋。
- World champion freediver
With just one breath, Guillaume Néry can dive to -125m below the water's surface. Full bio

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Guillaume纪尧姆ryRY! National国民 record记录!
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纪尧姆·纳里 全国纪录!
(掌声)谢谢!
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Guillaume纪尧姆ryRY: Thank you.
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Thank you very much,
thanks谢谢 for the warm welcome欢迎.
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谢谢!谢谢你们!
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That dive潜水 you just watched看着 is a journey旅程 --
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大家刚才看到的这次潜水,
是一个旅程
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a journey旅程 between之间 two breaths呼吸.
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一段发生在两次呼吸之间的旅程
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A journey旅程 that takes place地点
between之间 two breaths呼吸 --
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两次呼吸
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the last one before diving潜水 into the water,
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一次是入水之前的最后一次呼吸
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and the first one,
coming未来 back to the surface表面.
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一次是回到水面之后的第一次呼吸
这次潜水
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That dive潜水 is a journey旅程
to the very limits范围 of human人的 possibility可能性,
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是一个到达人类极限的旅程
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a journey旅程 into the unknown未知.
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是一个通向未知的旅程
然而,更重要的是
这是一个关于自我的旅程
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But it's also, and above以上 all,
an inner journey旅程,
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where a number of things happen发生,
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这场旅程中,发生了很多事情
身体的,和心灵的
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physiologically生理 as well as mentally精神上.
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这就是我今天来到TED演讲的原因
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And that's why I'm here today今天,
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to share分享 my journey旅程 with you
and to take you along沿 with me.
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我想跟你们分享这次旅程,
一起体验这奇妙的经历
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So, we start开始 with the last breath呼吸.
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那么,让我们从最后一次呼吸开始
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(Breathing呼吸 in)
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(深吸气)
(用力呼出)
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(Breathing呼吸 out)
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这最后一次呼吸
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As you noticed注意到, that last breath呼吸
in is slow, deep and intense激烈.
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如你们刚才看到的
特别绵长,深刻,强烈
在结束的时候
我用了一个叫鲤鱼呼吸法的小技巧
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It ends结束 with a special特别 technique技术
called the carp鲤鱼,
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这让我能在肺里多存储两公升的空气
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which哪一个 allows允许 me to store商店 one to two
extra额外 liters of air空气 in my lungs
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在离开水面的同时,我尽量压缩这些空气
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by compressing压缩 it.
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这样当我离开水面的时候
一共大概在肺里存储了10公升的空气
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When I leave离开 the surface表面,
I have about 10 liters of air空气 in my lungs.
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As soon不久 as I leave离开 the surface表面
the first mechanism机制 kicks in:
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好,现在,我离开了水面
第一步我们要遭遇的是
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the diving潜水 reflex反射.
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潜水反射(diving-reflex)
潜水反射,首先
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The first thing the diving潜水 reflex反射 does
is make your heart rate drop下降.
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它会让我们的心率下降
从60-70次每秒
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My heart beat击败 will drop下降
from about 60-70 per minute分钟
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下降到30-40次每秒
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to about 30-40 beats节拍 per minute分钟
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in a matter of seconds;
almost几乎 immediately立即.
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这个变化发生在几秒钟之内
几乎是转瞬间
其次,潜水反射会引起外周血管收缩
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Next下一个, the diving潜水 reflex反射 causes原因
peripheral外围设备 vasoconstriction血管收缩,
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这是说血液会离开身体末梢
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which哪一个 means手段 that the blood血液 flow
will leave离开 the body's身体的 extremities四肢
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而优先供应我们的主要器官:
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to feed饲料 the most important重要 organs器官:
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肺,心脏,大脑
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the lungs, the heart and the brain.
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这个反射机能是身体的本能反应
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This mechanism机制 is innate先天.
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我们无法控制它
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I cannot不能 control控制 it.
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当你置身水中,
即使你从来没有过涉水体验
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If you go underwater水下,
even if you've never doneDONE it before,
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这个机能也会自动启动
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you'll你会 experience经验 the exact精确 same相同 effects效果.
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All human人的 beings众生
share分享 this characteristic特性.
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身为人类,我们天生就有这个本领
而更奇妙的是
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And what's extraordinary非凡
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我们和所有的海洋哺乳动物一样
都天生拥有这个反射机能
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is that we share分享 this instinct直觉
with marine海洋 mammals哺乳动物 --
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all marine海洋 mammals哺乳动物:
dolphins海豚, whales鲸鱼, sea lions狮子, etc等等.
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所有的海洋哺乳动物:
海豚,鲸,海狮,等等
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When they dive潜水 deep into the ocean海洋,
these mechanisms机制 become成为 activated活性,
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当它们潜游到海洋深处
这个机制就会自动启动
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but to a greater更大 extent程度.
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当然,他们的这个功能
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And, of course课程, it works作品
much better for them.
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比我们人类的远为强大
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It's absolutely绝对 fascinating迷人.
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这绝对是件很神奇的事情
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Right as I leave离开 the surface表面,
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那么现在,我已经离开了水面
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nature性质 gives me a push
in the right direction方向,
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在这个与生俱来的神奇功能的帮助下
我自信满满地出发
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allowing允许 me to descend降落 with confidence置信度.
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当我慢慢沉入深蓝的大海
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So as I dive潜水 deeper更深 into the blue蓝色,
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the pressure压力 slowly慢慢地 starts启动
to squeeze my lungs.
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水压会开始缓慢地碾压我的肺
因为是肺里的空气让我能在水中浮起
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And since以来 it's the amount of air空气
in my lungs that makes品牌 me float浮动,
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潜入越深,碾压越厉害
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the farther更远 down I go,
the more pressure压力 there is on my lungs,
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肺里的空气越少,身体下沉就越容易
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the less air空气 they contain包含
and the easier更轻松 it is for my body身体 to fall秋季.
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当达到某一个点的时候
大概是35到40米深的时候
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And at one point,
around 35 or 40 meters down,
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我已经不需要刻意使力
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I don't even need to swim游泳.
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我的身体已经有足够的重量和密度
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My body身体 is dense稠密 and heavy enough足够
to fall秋季 into the depths深处 by itself本身,
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让我可以自由的沉入到海底
这时我们达到了俗称的自由落体阶段
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and I enter输入 what's called
the free自由 fall秋季 phase.
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The free自由 fall秋季 phase
is the best最好 part部分 of the dive潜水.
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这个自由落体阶段
是整个下沉过程中最美妙的时刻
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It's the reason原因 I still dive潜水.
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于是我继续下潜
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Because it feels感觉 like
you're being存在 pulled down
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这时我们感觉到来自最深渊的引力
我们不再需要做任何动作
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and you don't need to do anything.
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从35米到123米的过程中
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I can go from 35 meters to 123 meters
without making制造 a single movement运动.
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我完全放松
身体不再有任何的自主运动
我放任自己被深渊牵引
感觉就像在水中飞翔
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I let myself be pulled by the depths深处,
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and it feels感觉 like I'm flying飞行 underwater水下.
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这感觉很奇妙
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It's truly an amazing惊人 feeling感觉 --
an extraordinary非凡 feeling感觉 of freedom自由.
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我想这就是自由的感觉
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And so I slowly慢慢地 continue继续
sliding滑动 to the bottom底部.
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就这样
我缓缓的滑向最深的深处
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40 meters down,
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40米,50米
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50 meters down,
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and between之间 50 and 60 meters,
a second第二 physiological生理 response响应 kicks in.
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50米到60米之间,
我们迎来了生理上的第二个感受:
这时候我们的肺里的气体容量
已经达到了肺残气量
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My lungs reach达到 residual剩余的 volume,
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理论上当肺里的空气低于肺残气量
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below下面 which哪一个 they're not supposed应该
to be compressed压缩, in theory理论.
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我们的肺就不能继续压缩
这第二个生理反应叫血移
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And this second第二 response响应
is called blood血液 shift转移,
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法语中叫“érection pulmonaire"
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or "pulmonary肺的 erection勃起" in French法国.
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我个人愿意说“血移”
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I prefer比较喜欢 "blood血液 shift转移."
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(Laughter笑声)
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下面我们来说说“血移”
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So blood血液 shift转移 -- how does it work?
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那么“血移”是个
什么样的生理机制呢?
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The capillaries毛细血管 in the lungs
become成为 engorged充血 with blood血液 --
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当肺里的气压降低后,
肺泡壁会自动充血
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which哪一个 is caused造成 by the suction吸力 --
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这个自我保护机制
使得肺的两壁变得坚固
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so the lungs can harden硬化
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能保护整个胸腔不被外部的气体碾压
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and protect保护 the whole整个 chest胸部 cavity空穴
from being存在 crushed.
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It prevents防止 the two walls墙壁
of the lungs from collapsing崩溃,
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防止肺的两壁被挤压到一起
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from sticking症结 together一起 and caving崩落 in.
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这也是所有海洋哺乳动物
都具备的一个机能
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Thanks谢谢 to this phenomenon现象,
which哪一个 we also share分享 with marine海洋 mammals哺乳动物,
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I'm able能够 to continue继续 with my dive潜水.
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为此,我能接着潜行
60米,70米
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60, 70 meters down,
I keep falling落下, faster更快 and faster更快,
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我一路深潜,越来越快
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because the pressure压力 is crushing破碎
my body身体 more and more.
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与此同时,
水压也不断地挤压我的身体
从80米开始
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Below下面 80 meters,
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水的压力明显增强
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the pressure压力 becomes a lot stronger,
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我开始感觉得到这个压力
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and I start开始 to feel it physically物理.
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物理上开始真正地感觉到水压
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I really start开始 to feel the suffocation窒息.
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大家请看视频--
物理上大概是这样的,不是特别雅观
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You can see what it looks容貌 like --
not pretty漂亮 at all.
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腹部隔膜完全回缩
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The diaphragm光圈 is completely全然 collapsed倒塌,
the rib肋骨 cage is squeezed挤压 in,
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整个胸腔都向内塌陷
于此同时,在心理上也有个小诀窍
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and mentally精神上, there is something
going on as well.
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在这个境况下你也许会说,
“这好像有点儿难,怎么办呢”
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You may可能 be thinking思维,
"This doesn't look enjoyable其乐融融.
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How do you do it?"
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依照我们日常的生活经验,
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If I relied on my earthly俗世的 reflexes反射 --
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如果我们平时遇到一些困难,
我们是怎么做的呢?
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what do we do above以上 water
when there's a problem问题?
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We resist, we go against反对 it.
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我们会想办法克服困难,
我们会对抗,努力,战斗
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We fight斗争.
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然而,在水下,
这可有点儿行不通
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Underwater水下, that doesn't work.
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如果在水下我们想对抗水压,
我们极有可能会造成肺撕裂
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If you try that underwater水下,
you might威力 tear眼泪 your lungs,
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spit up blood血液, develop发展 an edema浮肿
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以及吐血,水肿等症状
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and you'll你会 have to stop diving潜水
for a good amount of time.
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而不得不在
相当长一段时间内停止潜水
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So what you need to do, mentally精神上,
is to tell yourself你自己
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那么我们该怎么做呢?
最好的办法就是告诉自己,
顺应自然
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that nature性质 and the elements分子
are stronger than you.
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在心里承认自然之力强于个人
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And so I let the water crush粉碎 me.
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于是,我任由水将我吞噬
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I accept接受 the pressure压力 and go with it.
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我接受这水的压力,
任它所为
同时,我把这个讯号传达给我的身体
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At this point, my body身体
receives收到 this information信息,
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and my lungs start开始 relaxing放松.
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我的肺开始放松
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I relinquish放弃 all control控制,
and relax放松 completely全然.
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我完全交出了对身体的控制权
整个人放松
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The pressure压力 starts启动 crushing破碎 me,
and it doesn't feel bad at all.
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于是漫漫水压将我席卷
可是我一点儿也不觉得难受
我好似被包裹在一个蚕茧当中
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I even feel like
I'm in a cocoon, protected保护.
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完全被保护的感觉
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And the dive潜水 continues继续.
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于是我可以继续深潜
80米,85米,90米
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80, 85 meters down,
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90,
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100.
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100米
08:09
100 meters -- the magic魔法 number.
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100米,这是个神奇的数字
在所有的体育运动中,
100米都是个神奇的数字
08:13
In every一切 sport运动, it's a magic魔法 number.
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游泳,田径
潜水也是
08:14
For swimmers游泳 and athletes运动员
and also for us, free自由 divers潜水员,
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对于所有的自由潜水员来说
100米是一个梦想
08:17
it's a number everyone大家 dreams of.
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08:19
Everyone大家 wishes祝福 one day
to be able能够 to get to 100 meters.
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所有的人都希望有一天
可以来到100米的深处
08:22
And it's a symbolic象征 number for us,
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对潜水员来说
100米也是个颇有象征意义的数字
08:24
because in the 1970s,
doctors医生 and physiologists生理学家 did their math数学,
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因为在20世纪70年代
医生们和生理学家曾做过科学计算
他们断言100米是人类的极限
08:28
and predicted预料到的 that the human人的 body身体
would not be able能够 to go below下面 100 meters.
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人的身体将不能越过100米的深度
08:33
Below下面 that, they said,
the human人的 body身体 would implode.
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超过这个深度,人体将崩溃
08:36
And then the Frenchman法国人, Jacques雅克· Mayol马约尔 --
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然后,有一个法国人
雅克·马约尔,
08:38
you all know him as the hero英雄
in "The Big Blue蓝色" --
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如你们都知道的,
他是“深蓝王国”的英雄
08:41
came来了 along沿 and dived跳水 down to 100 meters.
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他越过了这个极限
潜到了100米
08:44
He even reached到达 105 meters.
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然后又到了105米
08:46
At that time, he was doing "no limits范围."
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那时候,他用的是无限制潜水方式
即下潜时负重,
这样可以有更大的下潜速度
08:48
He'd他会 use weights权重 to descend降落 faster更快
and come back up with a balloon气球,
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而返回的时候借助充气气球
就像你们做录像里看到的那样
08:51
just like in the movie电影.
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08:52
Today今天, we go down 200 meters
in no limit限制 free自由 diving潜水.
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现在,无限制潜水
我们可以达到200米
而我,挑战的是123米
裸潜,不借助外力
08:55
I can do 123 meters
by simply只是 using运用 muscle肌肉 strength强度.
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08:58
And in a way, it's all thanks谢谢 to him,
because he challenged挑战 known已知 facts事实,
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这一切一定程度上要归功于他
因为他挑战和打破了
人们习以为常的认知
09:01
and with a sweep of his hand,
got rid摆脱 of the theoretical理论 beliefs信仰
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因为他在挥手之间
横扫那些固念理论
09:06
and all the mental心理 limits范围
that we like to impose强加 on ourselves我们自己.
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打破了我们强加给自己的心理极限
09:09
He showed显示 us that the human人的 body身体
has an infinite无穷 ability能力 to adapt适应.
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他向我们展示了,我们的身体
有适应无限可能的潜力
我继续往下坠落
09:13
So I carry携带 on with my dive潜水.
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09:15
105, 110, 115.
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105,110,115
09:17
The bottom底部 is getting得到 closer接近.
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逐渐接近底部
09:18
120,
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120米
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123 meters.
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123米
09:21
I'm at the bottom底部.
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我终于到达终点
09:22
And now, I'd like to ask you to join加入 me
and put yourself你自己 in my place地点.
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这里,我想邀请大家跟我一起体验
请大家稍稍想象一下,您是当时的我
09:26
Close your eyes眼睛.
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请闭上眼睛
想象您到达123米的海洋深处
09:28
Imagine想像 you get to 123 meters.
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09:33
The surface表面 is far, far away.
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水面是那么那么那么遥远
您孤身一人
09:36
You're alone单独.
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四周几乎没有任何光亮
09:39
There's hardly几乎不 any light.
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寒冷
09:42
It's cold --
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像冰川那样的寒冷
09:43
freezing冷冻 cold.
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水压几乎要将你碾碎
09:44
The pressure压力 is crushing破碎 you completely全然 --
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09:47
13 times stronger than on the surface表面.
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(毕竟这里水的压力是海洋表面的13倍)
也许你第一念头会说
09:50
And I know what you're thinking思维:
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09:52
"This is horrible可怕.
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“这是什么鬼地方?!”
09:54
What the hell地狱 am I doing here?
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“我一定是疯了”
09:56
He's insane."
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“为什么跑到这里来?!“
非也!
09:58
But no.
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我当时完全不是这么想的
10:00
That's not what I think
when I'm down there.
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10:02
When I'm at the bottom底部, I feel good.
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实际上,当我在海底最深处
我感觉很好
10:04
I get this extraordinary非凡
feeling感觉 of well-being福利.
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那是一种非同寻常的幸福感
10:06
Maybe it's because I've completely全然
released发布 all tensions紧张
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这也许是因为
我早就完全摒弃了所有的紧张
10:09
and let myself go.
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完全把自己交给了海洋
10:11
I feel great, without the need to breathe呼吸.
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总之我感觉十分惬意
一点不觉得自己需要呼吸
不过,你还是要承认
还是有一点点需要担心的
10:17
Although虽然, you'd agree同意,
I should be worried担心.
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10:21
I feel like a tiny dot,
a little drop下降 of water,
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我感觉自己是这么渺小
就像汪洋大海中的一滴水
10:24
floating漂浮的 in the middle中间 of the ocean海洋.
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10:26
And each time, I picture图片 the same相同 image图片.
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每次,我的脑海里总是浮现出这幅图像
The Pale Blue Dot,
意思是蓝色的小圆点儿
10:29
[The Pale苍白 Blue蓝色 Dot]
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大家看到的箭头指向的,
这个小小的蓝色的点
10:32
It's that small dot
the arrow箭头 is pointing指点 to.
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10:34
Do you know what it is?
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你们知道这是啥吗?
10:37
It's planet行星 Earth地球.
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这就是地球
这是旅行者号从40亿公里以外的太空
拍摄的地球
10:39
Planet行星 Earth地球, photographed拍照
by the Voyager航海家 probe探测,
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从那里看,
地球,我们的家
10:42
from 4 billion十亿 kilometers公里 away.
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10:44
And it shows节目 that our home
is that small dot over there,
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就是这样一个蓝色的点
漂浮在虚空当中
10:48
floating漂浮的 in the middle中间 of nothing.
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10:50
That's how I feel
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这有点儿像
我在123米的海洋深处感受到的
10:52
when I'm at the bottom底部, at 123 meters.
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我感觉自己就是一个小小的点
10:54
I feel like a small dot,
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10:55
a speck斑点 of dust灰尘, stardust星尘,
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如一粒尘埃
或一颗星辰
10:58
floating漂浮的 in the middle中间 of the cosmos宇宙,
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漂浮在茫茫宇宙当中
漂浮在虚无当中
11:00
in the middle中间 of nothing,
in the immensity广袤 of space空间.
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漂浮在无穷当中
11:03
It's a fascinating迷人 sensation感觉,
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这真是一种令人着迷的感觉
11:04
because when I look up, down,
left, right, in front面前, behind背后,
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不管我看向任何一个方向:
上,下,左,右,前,后
11:08
I see the same相同 thing:
the infinite无穷 deep blue蓝色.
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都是无边的蓝,
那么深邃
你在陆地上找不到任何一个地方
能给你这种感受 ——
11:12
Nowhere无处 else其他 on Earth地球
you can experience经验 this --
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11:15
looking all around you,
and seeing眼看 the same相同 thing.
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环顾四周,所见相同
11:18
It's extraordinary非凡.
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这是如此奇妙
11:20
And at that moment时刻,
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与此同时
我又清晰地感觉到
与生俱来的
11:22
I still get that feeling感觉 each time,
building建造 up inside of me --
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11:25
the feeling感觉 of humility谦逊.
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对自然的敬畏
每次看到这个图片,
我都觉得十分卑微
11:28
Looking at this picture图片,
I feel very humble谦卑 --
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11:31
just like when I'm all the way
down at the bottom底部 --
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正如我当时在海底深处
觉得自己如此渺小
11:34
because I'm nothing,
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我就是一颗尘埃
遗失在时空的无涯里
11:35
I'm a little speck斑点 of nothingness虚无
lost丢失 in all of time and space空间.
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然而这一切
是那么迷幻
11:39
And it still is absolutely绝对 fascinating迷人.
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于是我决定返回水面
因为这不是属于我的地方
11:42
I decide决定 to go back to the surface表面,
because this is not where I belong属于.
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11:46
I belong属于 up there, on the surface表面.
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我毕竟属于那儿,
上面的世界
我开始上升
11:48
So I start开始 heading标题 back up.
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11:52
I get something of a shock休克
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从决定返回的那一刻开始
我就遭遇一个很大的冲击
11:56
at the very moment时刻 when I decide决定 to go up.
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11:58
First, because it takes a huge巨大 effort功夫
to tear眼泪 yourself你自己 away from the bottom底部.
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首先,我必须十分费劲
才能离开海底往上移动
12:02
It pulled you down on the way in,
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因为那将我拽入深渊的巨大引力
在我试图上浮时同样存在
12:05
and will do the same相同 on the way up.
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12:07
You have to swim游泳 twice两次 as hard.
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所以我必须双倍奋力
其次,我会遭遇到另一种生理现象:
氮麻醉
12:10
Then, I'm hit击中 with another另一个
phenomenon现象 known已知 as narcosis麻醉.
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你们也许听说过它
12:13
I don't know if you've heard听说 of that.
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12:15
It's called nitrogen narcosis麻醉.
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我们称之为深渊的狂喜
12:17
It's something that happens发生
to scuba水肺 divers潜水员,
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这对水肺潜水者比较常见
自由潜水者也会时常遭遇
12:19
but it can happen发生 to free自由 divers潜水员.
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12:21
It's caused造成 by nitrogen
dissolving溶解 in the blood血液,
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这是由溶解在血液里的氮引起的
12:24
which哪一个 causes原因 confusion混乱
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它使得人在深度潜水时
12:26
between之间 the conscious意识
and unconscious无意识 mind心神.
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有点儿意识混乱
你会脑海里充斥着各种念头
12:30
A flurry慌张 of thoughts思念 goes spinning纺织
through通过 your head.
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思绪万千将你萦绕
12:34
You can't control控制 them,
and you shouldn't不能 try to --
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完全不受大脑控制
事实上我们也不应该试图控制它
12:37
you have to let it happen发生.
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不妨听之任之
12:39
The more you try to control控制 it,
the harder更难 it is to manage管理.
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任其驰骋
因为你越是努力控制它
它就越是难以驾驭
12:43
Then, a third第三 thing happens发生:
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第三个难题是:
我特别想呼吸
12:44
the desire欲望 to breathe呼吸.
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12:46
I'm not a fish, I'm a human人的 being存在,
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毕竟我可不是鱼
我是需要呼吸的人类
想要呼吸的欲望特别提醒我这个事实
12:48
and the desire欲望 to breathe呼吸
reminds提醒 me of that fact事实.
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12:51
Around 60, 70 meters,
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所以回到60到70米的时候
12:55
you start开始 to feel the need to breathe呼吸.
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这个欲望变得特别清晰
再加上另外的两个因素
12:59
And with everything else其他 that's going on,
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这时候你特别容易完全乱了阵脚
13:02
you can very easily容易 lose失去 your ground地面
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13:05
and start开始 to panic恐慌.
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堕入恐惧的陷阱
这时候你也许满脑子的念头就是
13:07
When that happens发生, you think,
"Where's哪里 the surface表面?
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“水面在哪里?我要呼吸!
立刻,马上!”
13:10
I want to go up. I want to breathe呼吸 now."
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13:12
You should not do that.
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可千万别这样!
13:13
Never look up to the surface表面 --
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不要试图看向水面,
不光不要看,连想都不要想!
13:15
not with your eyes眼睛, or your mind心神.
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13:19
You should never
picture图片 yourself你自己 up there.
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不要试图构建回到水面的画面
一定要把注意力集中在当前
13:21
You have to stay in the present当下.
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13:23
I look at the rope right in front面前 of me,
leading领导 me back to the surface表面.
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我保持着直视前方,那根绳子
绳子就是把我拉回水面的纽带
13:28
And I focus焦点 on that,
on the present当下 moment时刻.
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我心无杂念,
唯有那根绳子
因为如果我老想着水面
我会陷入恐慌
13:31
Because if I think
about the surface表面, I panic恐慌.
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13:34
And if I panic恐慌, it's over.
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一旦我恐慌
一切就完蛋
13:36
Time goes faster更快 this way.
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这样,时间好像突然间快起来了
13:39
And at 30 meters: deliverance救出.
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到了30米处,终于,解放啦
我不再是一个人
13:41
I'm not alone单独 any more.
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我的安全队友,我的守护天使
在这里迎接我
13:42
The safety安全 divers潜水员,
my guardian监护人 angels天使, join加入 me.
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13:46
They leave离开 the surface表面,
we meet遇到 at 30 meters,
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他们专门下来
在30米处与我汇合
13:48
and they escort护送 me
for the final最后 few少数 meters,
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然后他们会一路护送我
直到最后一米
13:50
where potential潜在 problems问题 could arise出现.
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最后这一段
也许有些潜在的问题会发生
每次我见到他们
13:53
Every一切 time I see them, I think to myself,
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我都会想:
”多亏有你们!”
13:57
"It's thanks谢谢 to you."
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因为有他们,因为我的团队
我才可能完成这一切
13:58
It's thanks谢谢 to them,
my team球队, that I'm here.
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14:00
It brings带来 back the sense of humility谦逊.
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又一次
我由衷地觉得自己的卑微
没有他们,没有我的团队
没有所有这些支持我的人们
14:03
Without没有 my team球队, without all
the people around me,
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14:07
the adventure冒险 into the deep
would be impossible不可能.
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我不可能完成深渊探险
14:09
A journey旅程 into the deep
is above以上 all a group effort功夫.
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这次深渊探险
其实是我们整个团队共同完成的
14:13
So I'm happy快乐 to finish
my journey旅程 with them,
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和他们一起完成最后一段旅程
我很幸福
14:15
because I wouldn't不会 be here
if it weren't for them.
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因为有他们
我才可能走这么远
20米,10米
14:18
20 meters, 10 meters,
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我的肺又慢慢的恢复了正常容量
14:19
my lungs slowly慢慢地 return返回
to their normal正常 volume.
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14:22
Buoyancy浮力 pushes me up to the surface表面.
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浮力又回来了
一直陪我回到水面
14:24
Five meters below下面 the surface表面,
I start开始 to breathe呼吸 out,
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离水面5米处
我开始呼气
这样一旦回到水面
我就立刻可以吸气
14:27
so that as soon不久 as I get
to the surface表面 all I do is breathe呼吸 in.
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当我回到水面
14:31
And so I arrive到达 at the surface表面.
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14:33
(Breathing呼吸 in)
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(深深吸气)
新鲜空气终于又充斥了我的肺
14:39
Air空气 floods洪水 into my lungs.
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这是一次新生
14:41
It's like being存在 born天生 again, a relief浮雕.
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一次救赎
这感觉,真好!
14:44
It feels感觉 good.
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14:46
Though虽然 the journey旅程 was extraordinary非凡,
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旅程当然很不一般
可我也确实需要感受到
这些小小的氧气分子
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I do need to feel those small
oxygen molecules分子 fueling加油 my body身体.
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充斥我的全身
这是一种奇妙的感觉
14:52
It's an extraordinary非凡 sensation感觉,
but at the same相同 time it's traumatizing创伤.
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但同时这也是一种创伤的体验
14:55
It's a shock休克 to the system系统,
as you can you imagine想像.
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这在感官上是一次冲击
请想象一下:我穿过无边的黑暗
终于看到光明
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I go from complete完成 darkness黑暗
to the light of day,
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我穿过寂静的深渊
回到尘嚣
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from the near-silence近沉默 of the depths深处
to the commotion骚动 up top最佳.
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In terms条款 of touch触摸, I go from the soft柔软的,
velvety天鹅绒般的 feeling感觉 of the water,
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而在触觉上,
我从海水柔软的怀抱中出来
粗粝的海风拍打我的脸
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to air空气 rubbing across横过 my face面对.
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In terms条款 of smell,
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在味觉和嗅觉上
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there is air空气 rushing into my lungs.
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海风钻进我的肺
于是我的肺重新打开
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And in return返回, my lungs open打开 up.
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而在90秒之前,它们还被海水无情碾压
15:21
They were completely全然 squashed压扁
just 90 seconds ago,
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现在终于可以尽情张开
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and now, they've他们已经 opened打开 up again.
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15:25
So all of this affects影响
quite相当 a lot of things.
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所有这一切
都要慢慢恢复秩序
我需要几秒钟
才能完全缓过神来
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I need a few少数 seconds to come back,
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回到现实当中
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and to feel "all there" again.
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然而,这一切需要恢复得特别快
因为裁判就在那儿
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But that needs需求 to happen发生 quickly很快,
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because the judges法官 are there
to verify校验 my performance性能;
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等着评判我的表现
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I need to show显示 them
I'm in perfect完善 physical物理 condition条件.
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我需要呈现一个
很好的身体状态
15:40
You saw in the video视频,
I was doing a so-called所谓 exit出口 protocol协议.
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如你们中视频中看到的:
我需要走一个所谓的结束流程
完全回到水面以后
我有15秒的时间取下鼻封
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Once一旦 at the surface表面, I have 15 seconds
to take off my nose鼻子 clip,
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给出信号
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give this signal信号 and say
(English英语) "I am OK."
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说“I'm OK”
所以你看
你们还要求你会双语
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Plus, you need to be bilingual双语.
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15:53
(Laughter笑声)
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(笑)
15:54
On top最佳 of everything --
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想想看,在我刚裸潜了123米后
让我说双语,还真是不太善良 (笑)
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that's not very nice不错.
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当结束流程完成以后
裁判发给我一张白卡
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Once一旦 the protocol协议 is completed完成,
the judges法官 show显示 me a white白色 card,
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欢庆的时刻到啦!
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and that's when the joy喜悦 starts启动.
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我终于可以为我刚才的经历庆祝
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I can finally最后 celebrate庆祝
what has just happened发生.
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16:07
So, the journey旅程 I've just described描述 to you
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刚才我向大家讲述的经历
16:10
is a more extreme极端 version of free自由 diving潜水.
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是一次有点极端的自由潜水经历
正常的自由潜水不是这样的
远远不会是这样
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Luckily, it's far from just that.
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16:16
For the past过去 few少数 years年份,
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三年以来,我都一直尝试
想体验潜水的另一面
16:17
I've been trying to show显示
another另一个 side of free自由 diving潜水,
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因为每次媒体提到自由潜水
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because the media媒体 mainly主要 talks会谈
about competitions比赛 and records记录.
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总是离不开竞技和纪录
16:23
But free自由 diving潜水 is more than just that.
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而实际上
自由潜水远远不止这些
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It's about being存在 at ease缓解 in the water.
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自由潜水,
是在水下完全放松
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It's extremely非常 beautiful美丽,
very poetic诗意 and artistic艺术的.
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是一种极致的美丽
诗意,和艺术
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So my wife妻子 and I decided决定 to film电影 it
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于是我和我太太决定
拍摄全过程
试图从另一个侧面来展现自由潜水
16:32
and try to show显示 another另一个 side of it,
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主要是想激起我们大家走入水中的兴趣
16:35
mostly大多 to make people want
to go into the water.
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接下来我想给大家看一些图片
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Let me show显示 you some images图片
to finish my story故事.
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然后我会做一个小小的总结
这是一些水下的照片
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It's a mix混合 of beautiful美丽 underwater水下 photos相片.
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16:46
(Music音乐)
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(音乐)
16:47
I'd like you to know that if one day
you try to stop breathing呼吸,
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对了,还想告诉大家
如果有一天你想尝试停止呼吸
16:52
you'll你会 realize实现 that
when you stop breathing呼吸,
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你会发现停止呼吸
16:54
you stop thinking思维, too.
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就是同时也停止思想
心灵完全放空
16:57
It calms镇定 your mind心神.
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在21世纪的今天
我们总是感到很大的压力
16:59
Today今天, in the 21stST century世纪,
we're under so much pressure压力.
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我们经常用脑过度,
恨不能一小时想一万件事情
17:03
Our minds头脑 are overworked,
we think at a million百万 miles英里 an hour小时,
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总是处于焦虑当中
17:06
we're always stressed强调.
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如果能去潜水的话,
17:08
Being存在 able能够 to free自由 dive潜水
lets让我们 you, just for a moment时刻,
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至少在这个过程当中
能帮助放松我们的身心
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relax放松 your mind心神.
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17:13
Holding保持 your breath呼吸 underwater水下
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屏住呼吸潜入水中
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means手段 giving yourself你自己 the chance机会
to experience经验 weightlessness失重.
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让我们有机会体验到失重的感觉
17:19
It means手段 being存在 underwater水下, floating漂浮的,
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漂浮在水中
17:22
with your body身体 completely全然 relaxed轻松,
letting出租 go of all your tensions紧张.
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完全放松你的身体
放松所有的压力
17:26
This is our plight困境 in the 21stST century世纪:
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这是21世纪的新世纪病:
我们背痛,颈椎痛,到处都痛
17:28
our backs hurt伤害, our necks脖子 hurt伤害,
everything hurts伤害,
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因为我们总是处于紧张和焦虑当中
17:30
because we're stressed强调
and tense紧张 all the time.
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如果您试试潜入水中
让自己完全漂浮
17:32
But when you're in the water,
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you let yourself你自己 float浮动,
as if you were in space空间.
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就像在太空中一样
完全放松自己的身体
17:37
You let yourself你自己 go completely全然.
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你会有一种奇妙的感觉
17:38
It's an extraordinary非凡 feeling感觉.
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最终你会发现你可以
17:40
You can finally最后 get in touch触摸
with your body身体, mind心神 and spirit精神.
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和自己的身体,心灵和灵魂都建立联系
身心灵都得到平静
17:46
Everything feels感觉 better, all at once一旦.
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17:49
Learning学习 how to free自由 dive潜水 is also
about learning学习 to breathe呼吸 correctly正确地.
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学习潜水
其实也是学习更好地呼吸
我们一直都在呼吸
从我们出生的第一次呼吸开始
17:54
We breathe呼吸 with our first breath呼吸
at birth分娩, up until直到 our last one.
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直到我们的最后一次呼吸
17:59
Breathing呼吸 gives rhythm韵律 to our lives生活.
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呼吸就是我们生命的节奏
18:02
Learning学习 how to breathe呼吸 better
is learning学习 how to live生活 better.
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学习更好地呼吸
就是学习更好地生活
潜水
并不一定要去到100米的深处
18:06
Holding保持 your breath呼吸 in the sea,
not necessarily一定 at 100 meters,
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下潜两米,三米,戴上护目镜
穿上一双蛙鞋
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but maybe at two or three,
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18:11
putting on your goggles风镜,
a pair of flippers蛙鞋,
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你会看到另一个世界
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means手段 you can go see another另一个 world世界,
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another另一个 universe宇宙, completely全然 magical神奇.
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另一个宇宙,它是如此神奇
你会看到数不清的鱼
看到海藻
18:17
You can see little fish, seaweed海草,
the flora植物群 and fauna动物区系,
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看到各种动物和植物
你可以随意地观察这一切
18:20
you can watch it all discreetly谨慎,
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在水中漫步,信步浏览
然后再回到水面
18:22
sliding滑动 underwater水下, looking around,
and coming未来 back to the surface表面,
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18:26
leaving离开 no trace跟踪.
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大海没有我的踪迹
但我曾经来过
18:28
It's an amazing惊人 feeling感觉
to become成为 one with nature性质 like that.
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这般和自然融为一体
是如此奇妙
如果我必须要说点什么
来结束今天的演讲:
18:33
And if I may可能 say one more thing,
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holding保持 your breath呼吸, being存在 in the water,
finding发现 this underwater水下 world世界 --
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去潜水,来到海底
置身于水的世界
这是一次重新认识自我的过程
18:41
it's all about connecting with yourself你自己.
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正如我刚才所看到的
18:43
You heard听说 me talk a lot
about the body's身体的 memory记忆
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我多次提到身体的记忆
18:48
that dates日期 back millions百万 of years年份,
to our marine海洋 origins起源.
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这可以追溯到数百万年前
我们的祖先在海洋生活时的远古记忆
一旦你来到到海洋深处
18:51
The day you get back into the water,
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你潜入几秒钟
18:54
when you hold保持 your breath呼吸
for a few少数 seconds,
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你就感觉到自己跟
这些远古记忆相联结
18:56
you will reconnect重新连接 with those origins起源.
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我可以向您保证
19:00
And I guarantee保证
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这绝对绝对是很神奇的体验
19:01
it's absolute绝对 magic魔法.
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请一定要去试试
19:03
I encourage鼓励 you to try it out.
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谢谢!
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Thank you.
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19:05
(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
Translated by Yinchun Rui
Reviewed by Gu Yu

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Guillaume Néry - World champion freediver
With just one breath, Guillaume Néry can dive to -125m below the water's surface.

Why you should listen

Guillaume Néry is a French freediving champion, specializing in deep diving. As a multiple world record holder and the double reigning world champion, Guillaume's goals go well beyond the simple realm of sport. With a perfect combination of aesthetics, performance, films and exploration, Guillaume practices his discipline like an art form — it has become his way of life.

Guillaume grew up by the Mediterranean Sea, in Nice. As a child, he used to go diving every summer with his flippers and mask, accompanied by his father, to discover the wonders of the underwater world. At the age of 14, he and a friend took up a challenge: to hold their breath for as long as possible. The simple game became an obsession and led him one day to meet Claude Chapuis, the founder of the international AIDA federation (Worldwide Federation for breath-hold diving). Claude became Guillaume’s mentor.

True to the Nice school of diving, Guillaume devoted all his time and energy to his passion. He made huge progress when working alongside Loic Leferme (5x No-Limits world record holder), who later became a role model, guide and close friend.

In 2002, he became the youngest ever freedive record holder, by diving to a depth of -87m using the force of his fins alone. That marked the beginning of a great adventure. Guillaume then beat the world record 3 times, became the world team champion in 2008 and the individual world champion in Greece in 2011, diving down to -117m. Nowadays, he dives until -125m of depth, the new French record

Guillaume also teaches deep diving at his school, CIPA (in Nice), conducts training, is involved in business life and sets sail across the world's oceans searching for new areas to explore.

However, it was thanks to the film he produced in 2010 with his partner Julie Gautier, Free Fall, that the Frenchman's career truly took off. One scene shows Guillaume walking on a seabed, towards an underwater chasm: the Deans Blue Hole (Bahamas), the deepest blue hole in the world. Suddenly, he jumps into emptiness and starts his free fall into the chasm. In just a few days, these images had been seen all around the world, revealing a new, artistic and poetic approach to freediving.

Since then, the couple has carried out a number of other film projects, including Narcoses or, recently, Ocean Gravity. They also launched their own website dedicated to all their creations: www.lesfilmsengloutis.com

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