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Jill Sobule + Julia Sweeney: The Jill and Julia Show
Шоуто на Джил и Джулия
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Jill Sobule - Singer/songwriter
Jill Sobule isn't just another singer-songwriter with catchy tunes and smart lyrics, she's one of the more insightful satirists of our age. Each of her fanciful songs captures an issue or irony, an emotion or epiphany that helps us understand what it's like to live now. Full bioJulia Sweeney - Actor, comedian, playwright
Julia Sweeney creates comedic works that tackle deep issues: cancer, family, faith. Full bio
Jill Sobule isn't just another singer-songwriter with catchy tunes and smart lyrics, she's one of the more insightful satirists of our age. Each of her fanciful songs captures an issue or irony, an emotion or epiphany that helps us understand what it's like to live now. Full bioJulia Sweeney - Actor, comedian, playwright
Julia Sweeney creates comedic works that tackle deep issues: cancer, family, faith. Full bio
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♫ Jill Sobule: At a conference in Monterey by the big, big jellyfish tank, ♫
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♫ На една конференция в Монтерей до големия, големия аквариум с медузи ♫
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♫ I first saw you and I got so shy. ♫
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♫ те видях за пръв път и толкова се притесних. ♫
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♫ You see, I was a little paranoid 'cause I might have been high. ♫
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♫ Разбираш ли, гонеше ме лека параноя, защото май се бях надрусала. ♫
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♫ And I hadn't done that in ages and I won't do that again. ♫
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♫ А не бях го правила от векове, и няма да го правя повече. ♫
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♫ But that's another story. ♫
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♫ Но това е друга история. ♫
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♫ Loved you forever and I've been a big fan, ♫
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♫ Обичах те открай време и ти бях страшна фенка, ♫
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♫ the one-woman shows, I even rented "Pat." ♫
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♫ правех моноспектакли, дори взех под наем "Пат". ♫
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♫ I got enough nerve to come up to you, ♫
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♫ Събрах достатъчно кураж да дойда при теб, ♫
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♫ but little did I know one year later we'd be doing this show. ♫
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♫ а откъде да знам, че след година ще правим това шоу. ♫
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♫ I sing. Julia Sweeney: I tell stories. Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Аз пея. Джулия Суийни: Аз разказвам истории. Заедно: Шоуто на Джил и Джулия. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Sometimes it works. Sweeney: Sometimes it doesn't. ♫
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♫ Собюл: Понякога се получава. Суийни: А понякога не. ♫
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♫ Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Заедно: Шоуто на Джил и Джулия. ♫
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♫ Sweeney: At a conference in Monterey next to the big, big jellyfish tank, ♫
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♫ На една конференция в Монтерей до големия, големия аквариум с медузи ♫
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♫ I first saw you and I wasn't so shy. ♫
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♫ те видях за пръв път и не бях толкова плаха. ♫
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I made a beeline for you and told you what a huge fan I was
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Тръгнах към теб и ти казах каква страшна фенка съм ти.
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ever since I was writing that pilot for Fox, and Wendy
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Откакто пишех онзи пилотен проект за Фокс и с Уенди
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and I wanted you to do the theme song.
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искахме да изпееш основната песен.
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And then the pilot didn't go and I was so sad,
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А после пилотният проект не тръгна и бях толкова тъжна,
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but I kept remaining a fan of yours.
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но все още ти бях фенка.
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And then when I went through that big, horrible breakup with Carl
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А после, когато преживях онова голямо, ужасно скъсване с Карл
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and I couldn't get off the couch, I listened to your song,
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и не можех да стана от дивана, слушах твоята песен
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♫ "Now That I Don't Have You," ♫ over and over and over and over again.
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♫ "Сега, когато те няма" ♫ отново, и отново, и отново, и отново.
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And I can't believe you're here and that I'm meeting you here at TED.
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Не мога да повярвам, че си тук и те срещам в TED.
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And also, I can't believe that we're eating sushi
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Не мога да повярвам и че ядем суши
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in front of the fish tank,
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срещу аквариума с риба,
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which, personally, I think is really inappropriate.
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което лично аз смятам за наистина неподходящо.
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(Laughter)
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(Смях)
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(Applause)
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02:06
And little did I know that one year later ... ♫ we'd be doing this show. ♫
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Откъде да знам, че година по-късно... ♫ ще правим това шоу. ♫
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♫ Sobule: I sing. Sweeney: I tell stories. Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Собюл: Аз пея. Суийни: Аз разказвам истории. Заедно: Шоуто на Джил и Джулия. ♫
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Sobule: Hey, they asked us back! Sweeney: Can you stand it?!
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Собюл: Хей, поканиха ни пак! Суийни: Можеш ли да го понесеш?
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♫ Together: The Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Заедно: Шоуто на Джил и Джулия, на Джил и Джулия, на Джил и Джулия. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Why are all our heroes so imperfect? ♫
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♫ Собюл: Защо всичките ни герои са така несъвършени? ♫
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♫ Why do they always bring me down? ♫
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♫ Защо винаги ме разочароват? ♫
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♫ Why are all our heroes so imperfect? ♫
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♫ Защо всичките ни герои са така несъвършени? ♫
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♫ Statue in the park has lost his crown. ♫
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♫ Статуята в парка е изгубила короната си. ♫
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♫ William Faulkner, drunk and depressed. ♫ Sweeney: Mmm.
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♫ Уилям Фокнър, пиян и депресиран. ♫
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♫ Dorothy Parker, mean, drunk and depressed. ♫ Sweeney: I know.
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♫ Дороти Паркър - лоша, пияна и депресирана. ♫
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♫ And that guy, "Seven Years in Tibet," turned out to be a Nazi. ♫ Sweeney: Yeah.
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♫ А онзи тип от "Седем години в Тибет", се оказа нацист. ♫
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♫ Founding fathers all had slaves. ♫ Sweeney: I know.
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♫ Всички бащи-основатели са имали роби. ♫
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♫ The explorers slaughtered the braves. ♫ Sweeney: Horribly.
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♫ Изследователите са избивали смелчагите. ♫ Суийни: Ужасно.
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♫ Sobule: The Old Testament God can be so petty. ♫
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♫ Собюл: Бог от Стария завет понякога е тъй дребнав. ♫
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Sweeney: Don't get me started on that. (Laughter)
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Суийни: А на тази тема хич и не започвай.
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♫ Sobule: Paul McCartney, jealous of John, even more so now that he's gone. ♫
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♫ Собюл: Пол Макартни ревнува от Джон - дори повече сега, като го няма. ♫
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♫ Dylan was so mean to Donovan in that movie. ♫
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♫ Дилън бе тъй лош към Донован в онзи филм. ♫
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♫ Pablo Picasso, cruel to his wives. ♫ Sweeney: Horrible.
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♫ Пабло Пикасо, жесток към съпругите си. ♫ Суийни: Ужасно.
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♫ Sobule: My favorite poets took their own lives. ♫
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♫ Собюл: Любимите ми поети са отнели собствения си живот. ♫
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♫ Orson Welles peaked at twenty-five, below before our eyes. ♫
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♫ Орсън Уелс стигна върха на двайсет и пет, гръмна пред очите ни. ♫
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♫ And he sold bad wine. ♫
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♫ И продава лошо вино. ♫
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♫ Together: Why are all our heroes so imperfect? Yeah ♫
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♫ Заедно: Защо всичките ни герои са така несъвършени, а? ♫
03:38
♫ Why do they always bring me down? ♫
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♫ Защо винаги ме разочароват? ♫
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♫ Sobule: Heard Babe Ruth was full of malice. ♫ Sweeney: Oh.
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♫ Собюл: Чувала съм, че Бейб Рут бил пълен със злоба. ♫
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♫ Lewis Carroll I'm sure did Alice. ♫ Sweeney: What?!
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♫ Сигурна съм, че Луис Карол е оправял Алиса. ♫
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♫ Plato in the cave with those very young boys. ♫ Sweeney: Ooh...
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♫ Платон в пещерата с онези малки момченца. ♫ Суийни: Ооох...
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♫ Sobule: Hillary supported the war. ♫
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♫ Собюл: Хилари подкрепяше войната. ♫
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♫ Sweeney: Even Thomas Friedman supported the war. ♫ (Laughter)
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♫ Суийни: Дори Томас Фрийдман е подкрепял войната. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Colin Powell turned out to be ... Together: ... such a pussy. ♫ (Laughter) (Applause)
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♫ Собюл: Колин Пауъл излезе... Заедно:...такъв страхливец. ♫
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♫ Sobule: William Faulkner, drunk and depressed, ♫
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♫ Собюл: Уилям Фокнър, пиян и депресиран, ♫
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♫ Tennessee Williams, drunk and depressed. ♫ Sweeney: Yeah.
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♫ Тенеси Уилямс, пиян и депресиран. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Take it, Julia. ♫
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Собюл: Давай, Джулия.
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Sweeney: Okay. Oprah was never necessarily a big hero of mine.
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Суийни: Добре. Опра никога не е била кой знае каква героиня за мен.
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I mean, I watch Oprah mostly when I'm home in Spokane
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Искам да кажа - гледам Опра главно когато съм си у дома в Спокейн
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visiting my mother. And to my mother,
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и посещавам майка си. А за майка ми
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Oprah is a greater moral authority than the Pope,
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Опра е по-велик морален авторитет от папата,
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which is actually saying something because she's a devout Catholic.
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което наистина значи нещо, защото тя е ревностна католичка.
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Anyway, I like Oprah -- I like her girlfriendy-ness,
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Както и да е, харесвам Опра. Харесвам излъчването й на приятелка.
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I like her weight issues,
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Харесвам проблемите й с теглото.
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I like how she's transformed talk television,
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Харесвам начина, по който преобрази телевизионните токшоута.
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I like how she's brought reading back to America --
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Харесвам как върна четенето в Америка.
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but there was something that happened the last two weeks
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Но през последните две седмици се случи нещо,
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that was ... I call it the Soon-Yi moment:
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което беше... наричам го момент Сун-И.
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it is the moment when I cannot continue supporting someone.
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Това е моментът, когато не мога да продължа да подкрепям някого.
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And that was that she did two entire shows
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И това беше, когато цели две нейни шоута
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promoting that movie "The Secret."
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промотираха онзи филм - "Тайната".
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Do you guys know about that movie "The Secret"?
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Хора, знаете ли за онзи филм, "Тайната"?
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It makes "What the Bleep Do We Know" seem like a doctoral dissertation
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Пред него "Какво, по "пиу" знаем" изглежда като докторска дисертация
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from Harvard on quantum mechanics -- that's how bad it is.
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от Харвард по квантова механика - толкова е зле.
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It makes "The DaVinci Code" seem like "War and Peace."
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Пред него "Шифърът на Леонардо" изглежда като "Война и мир".
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That movie is so horrible. It promotes such awful pseudoscience.
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Този филм е толкова ужасен. Представя такава ужасна псевдо-наука.
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And the basic idea is
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И основната идея е,
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that there's this law of attraction, and
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че има един "Закон на привличането"
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your thoughts have this vibrating energy
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и мислите ти имат една вибрираща енергия,
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that goes out into the universe
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която излиза във Вселената
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and then you attract good things to happen to you.
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и тогава привличаш добри неща, които да ти се случват.
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On a scientific basis, it's more than just "Power of Positive Thinking" --
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Научно погледнато, това е повече от просто "Силата на позитивното мислене" -
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it has a horrible, horrible dark side. Like if you get ill,
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има ужасна, ужасна тъмна страна. Например, ако се разболееш,
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it's because you've just been thinking negative thoughts.
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то е, защото тъкмо са ти минали негативни мисли.
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Yeah, stuff like that was in the movie and she's promoting it.
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Да, такива неща имаше във филма. А тя го представя.
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And all I'm saying is that I really wish that Murray Gell-Mann
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Ще кажа само, че наистина ми се иска Мъри Гел-Ман
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would go on Oprah
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да отиде при Опра
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and just explain to her that the law of attraction is, in fact, not a law.
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и да й обясни, че "Законът на привличането" всъщност не е закон.
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So that's what I have to say.
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Това исках да кажа.
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(Laughter)
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(Applause)
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05:51
♫ Sobule: I sing. Sweeney: I tell stories. Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Собюл: Аз пея. Суийни: Аз разказвам истории. Заедно: Шоуто на Джил и Джулия. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Sometimes it works. Sweeney: Sometimes it doesn't. ♫
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♫ Собюл: Понякога върви. Суийни: А понякога не. ♫
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♫ Together: The Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Заедно: Шоуто на Джил и Джулия, на Джил и Джулия, на Джил и Джулия. ♫
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(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Jill Sobule - Singer/songwriterJill Sobule isn't just another singer-songwriter with catchy tunes and smart lyrics, she's one of the more insightful satirists of our age. Each of her fanciful songs captures an issue or irony, an emotion or epiphany that helps us understand what it's like to live now.
Why you should listen
Jill Sobule first found her place in music history with the controversial 1995 hit "I Kissed a Girl." The song's silly sweetness masked its significance: It broke new ground as the first Top 40 hit to deal with overtly gay themes.
This approach -- packaging hard-hitting social commentary in a wrapper of whimsy -- has defined Sobule's career. Her endearing story-songs veer from fanciful storytelling to forceful satire and back again, covering a wide range of political and social issues from climate change to prostitution; anorexia to anti-semitism. Her winning combination of memorable characters, clever lyrics and catchy tunes has inspired comparisons that range from Burt Bacharach to Gertrude Stein. It also makes her performances and recordings a delight.
Sobule's candy-coated commentary can be found on her Huffington Post blog, as well as in her steady stream of stand-out albums, including Jill Sobule (1995), Happy Town (1997), Pink Pearl (2000) and Underdog Victorious (2004). Lately, Sobule has performed regularly with comedian Julia Sweeney (the two met at TED2006). They put on the "Jill and Julia Show," an utterly endearing evening of stories and songs. She's also recording an album with the string quartet Ethel (another TED2006 match).
Jill Sobule | Speaker | TED.com
Julia Sweeney - Actor, comedian, playwright
Julia Sweeney creates comedic works that tackle deep issues: cancer, family, faith.
Why you should listen
Julia Sweeney is a writer, director, actress, comedian and monologist. She is known for being a cast member on Saturday Night Live from 1990 to 1995, where she created and popularized the androgynous character, Pat. She is also well known for her comedic and dramatic monologues. God Said Ha! is a monologue about serious illness, her brother's lymphoma and her own cancer, and her family's crazy reactions to this crisis as they soldiered their way through struggle, confusion and death. This play was performed all over the U.S. and on Broadway at the Lyceum Theater. It was made into a film produced by Quentin Tarantino, and the comedy album from the show was nominated for a Grammy.
Sweeney's second monologue, In the Family Way, played in theatrical runs in New York and Los Angeles. It was ultimately fashioned into a book, a memoir titled If It's Not One Thing, It's Your Mother. Sweeney's third monologue, Letting Go of God, chronicled her journey from Catholicism to atheism. It was made into a film that played on Showtime.
Julia Sweeney | Speaker | TED.com