EG 2008
Adam Savage: My obsession with objects and the stories they tell
亞當·斯维基的收藏品
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在EG08上，亞當·斯维基講述了他對渡渡鳥的喜愛以及他是如何進行了一次古怪又有趣的探索。對於擁有充滿創造力又堅持不懈的亞當·斯维基，這是真是一次愉快的心靈探險。
Adam Savage - Maker, critical thinker
Adam Savage is an internationally renowned television producer, host and public speaker. Full bio
Adam Savage is an internationally renowned television producer, host and public speaker. Full bio
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About four years ago, the New Yorker published an article
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大約在四年前，《紐約客》雜誌上發表了一篇文章
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about a cache of dodo bones that was found
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文章的內容是關於在馬里提斯島上的一個洞穴裡
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in a pit on the island of Mauritius.
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發現了渡渡鳥的骨骼
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Now, the island of Mauritius is a small island
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馬里提斯島是一個小島
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off the east coast of Madagascar
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位於馬達加斯加島東部海域
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in the Indian Ocean, and it is the place
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處在印度洋中，就是在這裡
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where the dodo bird was discovered
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渡渡鳥被發現
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and extinguished, all within about 150 years.
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也滅絕了，僅在短短一百五十年間
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Everyone was very excited about this archaeological find,
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每個人對於這個考古發現都非常興奮
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because it meant that they might finally be able
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因為這意味著他們終於可以
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to assemble a single dodo skeleton.
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完整地拼湊出渡渡鳥的骨骼模型。
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See, while museums all over the world
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大家想想，儘管世界各地的博物館
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have dodo skeletons in their collection, nobody --
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都收藏著渡渡鳥的骨骼模型，但是沒有人--
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not even the actual Natural History Museum
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包括在馬里提斯島上的自然歷史博物館也沒有
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on the island of Mauritius -- has a skeleton that's made
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從同一隻渡渡鳥的身上收集組合出來
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from the bones of a single dodo.
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完整的骨骼模型
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Well, this isn't exactly true.
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然而，這也不是完全正確
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The fact is, is that the British Museum
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事實上，大英博物館
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had a complete specimen of a dodo in their collection
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在十八世紀前
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up until the 18th century --
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曾經收藏過完整的渡渡鳥標本
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it was actually mummified, skin and all --
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整隻渡渡鳥，包括皮膚和其他所有的部分都被風乾保存，
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but in a fit of space-saving zeal,
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但館方為了節省空間，一時衝動下
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they actually cut off the head and they cut off the feet
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只把牠的頭和腳切下來保留
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and they burned the rest in a bonfire.
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然後把其他部分扔進火堆，燒為灰燼
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If you go look at their website today,
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如果你現在去看他們的網站
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they'll actually list these specimens, saying,
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他們仍將渡渡鳥頭和腳的標本列入展品中，並指出
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the rest was lost in a fire.
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其他的部位在一場大火裡遺失了
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Not quite the whole truth. Anyway.
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不過，事實並非完全如此
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The frontispiece of this article was this photo,
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在這篇文章前面就是這張照片
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and I'm one of the people that thinks that Tina Brown
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我也和大家一樣認為蒂娜·布朗十分偉大
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was great for bringing photos to the New Yorker,
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她替《紐約客》雜誌拍攝了無數張的好照片
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because this photo completely rocked my world.
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而這張照片深深震撼了我
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I became obsessed with the object --
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我完全地被這張照片所吸引
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not just the beautiful photograph itself,
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不僅僅是因為照片本身的美麗
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and the color, the shallow depth of field, the detail that's visible,
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還有那色彩光影明暗的變換，以及那些看得到的細節
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the wire you can see on the beak there
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牠嘴邊的那一條鐵絲是以前管理員為了
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that the conservator used to put this skeleton together --
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固定骨架而放置的
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there's an entire story here.
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這張照片本身就是一個完整的故事
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And I thought to myself,
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於是，我想
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wouldn't it be great
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如果我也有自己的渡渡鳥骨架
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if I had my own dodo skeleton?
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那該有多好阿
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(Laughter)
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（笑）
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I want to point out here at this point that
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所以，我現在想說的是
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I've spent my life obsessed
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我一輩子都在為一些
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by objects and the stories that they tell,
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奇特的事物和故事而痴迷
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and this was the very latest one.
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而這個是我最近最新的迷戀
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So I began looking around for --
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於是，我開始在周遭搜尋
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to see if anyone sold a kit,
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看看有沒有人在賣
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some kind of model that I could get,
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看看能不能買到像這樣的模型
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and I found lots of reference material, lots of lovely pictures.
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在此之中，我找到了很多相關的材料，很多很有意思的圖片
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No dice: no dodo skeleton for me. But the damage had been done.
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但是，完全沒有，沒有我想要的渡渡鳥的骨骼.逝者已矣
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I had saved a few hundred photos of dodo skeletons
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我在我的電腦裡的"創意計畫"的資料夾中
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into my "Creative Projects" folder --
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儲存了上百張的渡渡鳥骨骼模型照片
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it's a repository for my brain, everything that I could possibly be interested in.
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這是我所有感興趣東西的統一收藏處
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Any time I have an internet connection,
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任何時候只要我有連上網路
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there's a sluice of stuff moving into there,
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就會有大量的東西流入這裡
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everything from beautiful rings to cockpit photos.
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無論是美麗的戒指還是戰鬥場的照片
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The key that the Marquis du Lafayette sent to George Washington
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拉法葉為慶祝攻克巴士底監獄
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to celebrate the storming of the Bastille.
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送給喬治華盛頓的鑰匙
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Russian nuclear launch key:
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還是俄羅斯核彈起動的鑰匙
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The one on the top is the picture of the one I found on eBay;
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上面那一把的圖是我在eBay上找到的
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the one on the bottom is the one I made for myself,
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下面那一把是我自己做的
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because I couldn't afford the one on eBay.
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因為eBay上賣得太貴了，買不起
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Storm trooper costumes. Maps of Middle Earth --
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星際大戰軍隊的衣服，這個中土的地圖﹣
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that's one I hand-drew myself. There's the dodo skeleton folder.
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是我自己畫的。這個是渡渡鳥骨骼模型的文件夾
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This folder has 17,000 photos --
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裡面有一萬七千張照片
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over 20 gigabytes of information --
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超過20G的資訊
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and it's growing constantly.
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還不斷地在增加中
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And one day, a couple of weeks later, it might have been
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這樣過了幾周之後
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maybe a year later, I was in the art store with my kids,
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或著大概有一年，有一天我跟孩子在美術用品店
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and I was buying some clay tools -- we were going to have a craft day.
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我們在買一些陶土用品--我們正準備來一個美勞日
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I bought some Super Sculpeys, some armature wire, some various materials.
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我買了一些很好的黏土，一些鐵絲和其他材料
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And I looked down at this Sculpey, and I thought,
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我看著這些黏土，心裡想
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maybe,
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也許
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yeah, maybe I could make my own dodo skull.
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對，也許我可以自己做一個渡渡鳥的頭骨模型
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I should point out at this time -- I'm not a sculptor;
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但要先說明一點，我可不是雕刻家
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I'm a hard-edged model maker.
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我是一個出色的模型製作家
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You give me a drawing, you give me a prop to replicate,
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給我一幅畫或物品，我就可以複製出來
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you give me a crane, scaffolding, parts from "Star Wars" --
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或著給我一個起重機，鷹架，一些星際大戰的東西
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especially parts from "Star Wars" --
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特別是來自星際大戰
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I can do this stuff all day long.
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我就可以做一整天
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It's exactly how I made my living for 15 years.
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這就是我15年來所從事的工作
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But you give me something like this --
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不過，如果你給我類似這類的東西
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my friend Mike Murnane sculpted this;
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這是我朋友麥克做的
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it's a maquette for "Star Wars, Episode Two" --
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是星際大戰第二部裡面的模型
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this is not my thing --
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這種我就不在行了
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this is something other people do -- dragons, soft things.
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這個龍還是其他黏土類的東西，是別人在行的
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However, I felt like I had looked at enough photos of dodo skulls
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但是，我覺得我已經看了夠多的渡渡鳥頭骨的照片
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to actually be able to
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已經有足夠的條件
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understand the topology and perhaps replicate it --
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能夠了解牠的結構並將牠複製出來
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I mean, it couldn't be that difficult.
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我的意思是，這應該不會那麼困難
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So, I started looking at the best photos I could find.
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所以，我開始尋找我所能找到最好的照片
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I grabbed all the reference,
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我翻遍了所有能找的文獻資料
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and I found this lovely piece of reference.
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然後我找到了這個有趣的資料
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This is someone selling this on eBay;
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這是有人在eBay上賣的
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it was clearly a woman’s hand, hopefully a woman's hand.
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這個圖明顯地是一個女人的手，希望是
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Assuming it was roughly the size of my wife's hand,
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假設這雙手和我妻子的大小一樣
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I made some measurements of her thumb, and I scaled them out to the size of the skull.
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我量了一下它的手指，由此計算出她骨骼的大小
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I blew it up to the actual size, and I began using that,
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然後把圖放大到實際大小，開始用它
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along with all the other reference that I had, comparing it to it
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和我所得到的數據相比較
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as size reference for figuring out exactly how big the beak should be,
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計算出它實際的大小
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exactly how long, etc.
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算出它實際的長度
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And over a few hours, I eventually achieved
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幾個小時之後，我終於得到了
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what was actually a pretty reasonable dodo skull. And I didn't mean to continue, I --
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準確的渡渡鳥頭骨規模。我沒有想過還要繼續﹣
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it's kind of like, you know, you can only clean a super messy room
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這個就像是在收拾亂房間
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by picking up one thing at a time; you can't think about the totality.
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每次你只收拾一個東西，無法全盤考慮
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I wasn't thinking about a dodo skeleton;
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我當時並不是想要做渡渡鳥全身的骨頭
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I just noticed that as I finished this skull,
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一直到我做好了渡渡鳥的頭骨
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the armature wire that I had been used to holding it up
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我才發現我用來搭建它們的鐵絲
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was sticking out of the back just where a spine would be.
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剛好就是脊椎伸出來的地方
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And one of the other things I'd been interested in and obsessed with over the years
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在過去幾年中我最傾盡全力的
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is spines and skeletons, having collected a couple of hundred.
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就是搜集了幾百個的脊柱和骨骼
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I actually understood the mechanics
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我十分了解脊椎骨的排列機制
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of vertebrae enough to kind of start to imitate them.
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並且能開始模仿這個東西
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And so button by button,
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所以我就一點一點地
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vertebrae by vertebrae, I built my way down.
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將骨骼一塊一塊拼接完成了！
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And actually, by the end of the day, I had a reasonable skull,
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事實上，那天結束前，我已經做好了一個不錯的頭骨模型
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a moderately good vertebrae and half of a pelvis.
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有一排還不錯的脊椎骨，連骨盆也做好了一半
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And again, I kept on going, looking for more reference,
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之後我還繼續查了更多資料
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every bit of reference I could find -- drawings, beautiful photos.
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所有我能找到的資料，像圖片，相片啊我都找了
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This guy -- I love this guy! He put a dodo leg bones on a scanner
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我愛死了這個傢伙，他把渡渡鳥的腿骨拿去掃描了一遍
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with a ruler.
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旁邊還放了尺
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This is the kind of accuracy that I wanted,
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這就是我想要的精確度
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and I
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而我最終就是
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replicated every last bone and put it in.
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複製了每一塊骨頭然後把它放進去
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And after about six weeks,
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大約六週之後
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I finished, painted, mounted
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我終於完成了，包括上漆以及固定
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my own dodo skeleton.
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我自己的渡渡鳥骨骼模型
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You can see that I even made a museum label for it
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你們還可以看到我甚至做出了博物館的展示標籤
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that includes a brief history of the dodo.
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上面有渡渡鳥的簡介
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And TAP Plastics made me -- although I didn't photograph it --
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TAP公司還幫我做了一個博物館的玻璃陳列櫥窗
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a museum vitrine.
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不過沒有照片
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I don't have the room for this in my house,
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家裡其實沒地方放渡渡鳥的標本
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but I had to finish what I had started.
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但是既然開始做了就該把它做完
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And this actually represented kind of a sea change to me.
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而且，對我來說，這是個極大的成長
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Again, like I said, my life has been about
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就像我剛提到的，我的生活
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being fascinated by objects and the stories that they tell,
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總是被某些事物及他們背後的故事給深深吸引
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and also making them for myself, obtaining them,
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想要複製他們，留在身邊
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appreciating them and diving into them.
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欣賞他們，了解他們
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And in this folder, "Creative Projects,"
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在「創意計劃」這個檔案夾裡
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there are tons of projects that I'm currently working on,
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有些是我目前正在做的東西
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projects that I've already worked on, things that I might want to work on some day,
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有些是早就開始動工的，有些是我之後想做的
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and things that I may just want to find and buy and have
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有些是我只想到處找找，看買不買的到
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and look at and touch.
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看一看，摸一摸的
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But now there was potentially this new category of things
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但是現在又多了一個新領域可以供我發揮
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that I could sculpt
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雕塑
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that was different, that I -- you know,
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這跟我以前做得很不一樣
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I have my own R2D2, but that's --
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我自己有一個星際大戰的R2D2模型
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honestly, relative to sculpting, to me, that's easy.
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但是，說實在話，跟雕塑比起來，那真的不算甚麼
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And so I went back and looked through my "Creative Projects" folder,
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於是，我又回去看「創意計劃」這個檔案夾
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and I happened across the Maltese Falcon.
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然後，我發現了「馬爾他之鷹」
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Now, this is funny for me:
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愛上漢密特小說裡的
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to fall in love with an object from a Hammett novel,
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馬爾他之鷹，其實有點好笑
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because if it's true that the world is divided into two types of people,
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因為如果真的這個世界的人(讀者）分為兩派
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Chandler people and Hammett people, I am absolutely a Chandler person.
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錢德勒派的人跟漢密特派的人，我當然是錢德勒那一派的
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But in this case,
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不過，現在重要的
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it's not about the author, it's not about the book or the movie or the story,
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不是作者本身，也無關這本小說、電影、情節
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it's about the object in and of itself.
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重點是放在馬爾他之鷹上
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And in this case, this object is --
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事實上，馬爾他之鷹
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plays on a host of levels.
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有各種不同的面貌
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First of all, there's the object in the world.
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首先，有這樣一個東西
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This is the "Kniphausen Hawk."
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「尼佛森之鷹」
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It is a ceremonial pouring vessel
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它是在17世紀左右
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made around 1700 for a Swedish Count,
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為了瑞典伯爵做的祭祀容器
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and it is very likely the object from which
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漢密特筆下的馬爾他之鷹
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Hammett drew his inspiration for the Maltese Falcon.
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的靈感很可能就是由此誕生
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Then there is the fictional bird, the one that Hammett created for the book.
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其次，便是漢密特小說中的那隻杜撰的鷹
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Built out of words, it is the engine
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書裡活靈活現的文字讓
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that drives the plot of his book and also the movie,
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馬爾他之鷹成為小說及電影裡的重心
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in which another object is created:
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於是，另一項產物應運而生﹣
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a prop that has to represent the thing that Hammett created out of words,
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尼佛森之鷹給了漢密特靈感，讓漢密特有了描述馬爾他之鷹的依據
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inspired by the Kniphausen Hawk, and this represents the falcon in the movie.
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電影為重現漢密特的文字，便做了一個馬爾他之鷹的道具
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And then there is this fourth level, which is
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而馬爾他之鷹最後的一種面貌
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a whole new object in the world:
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於焉誕生
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the prop made for the movie, the representative of the thing,
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從電影的道具、文字的產物搖身一變
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becomes, in its own right,
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有了自己的價值
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a whole other thing,
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成為一個獨立的東西
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a whole new object of desire.
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一個由慾望交織出的新玩意
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And so now it was time to do some research.
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於是，是時候開始收集資料了
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I actually had done some research
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事實上，我從幾年前就開始找了
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a few years before -- it's why the folder was there.
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所以才會開了這樣一個檔案夾
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I'd bought a replica, a really crappy replica,
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我在eBay買了一個馬爾他之鷹的複製品
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of the Maltese Falcon on eBay,
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可是品質很差
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and had downloaded enough pictures to actually
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另外，我也存了足夠的圖片
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have some reasonable reference.
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也有足夠的參考依據
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But I discovered,
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為了取得精確的參考資料
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in researching further,
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我愈來愈深入地研究
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really wanting precise reference, that
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然後我發現，在1994年克莉絲蒂拍賣會上
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one of the original lead birds
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賣出了一個原版的
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had been sold at Christie's in 1994,
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鉛製的馬爾他之鷹
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and so I contacted an antiquarian bookseller
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於是，我聯絡上一個買賣古物的書商
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who had the original Christie's catalogue,
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他有克莉絲蒂拍賣會上的拍賣目錄
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and in it I found this magnificent picture,
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在目錄中，我發現這張絕佳的圖片
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which included a size reference.
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上面還附有參考尺寸
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I was able to scan the picture, blow it up to exactly full size.
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這樣，我便可以把這張圖拿去掃描，再放大到原始大小
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I found other reference. Avi [Ara] Chekmayan,
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我也找到其他的參考資料
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a New Jersey editor, actually found this
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在1991年，紐澤西的編輯，査克梅楊
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resin Maltese Falcon
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在跳蚤市場裡
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at a flea market in 1991,
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找到這隻樹脂做的馬爾他之鷹
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although it took him five years
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雖然他花了五年的時間
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to authenticate this bird to
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才證明它就是拍賣會中的
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the auctioneers' specifications,
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那件拍賣物
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because there was a lot of controversy about it.
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對此，當時各界也傳出不少爭議
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It was made out of resin, which wasn't a common material for movie props
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因為那時候電影的道具，很少是用樹脂做的
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about the time the movie was made.
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而它的材質正是樹脂
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It's funny to me that it took a while to authenticate it,
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他花了這麼長的時間才證明它是真品，實在可笑
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because I can see it compared to this thing,
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跟這張拍賣會上的圖一比
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and I can tell you -- it's real, it's the real thing,
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我就能跟你保證，這絕對是件真品
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it's made from the exact same mold that this one is.
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因為它們是從同一個模子裡塑造出來的
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In this one, because the auction was actually so controversial,
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因為對這件作品的真偽還有很大的爭議，
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Profiles in History, the auction house that sold this --
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當時拍賣的古董商(Profiles in History)
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I think in 1995 for about 100,000 dollars --
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我記得在1995年時，以10萬美金賣了出去
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they actually included -- you can see here on the bottom --
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他們特別在目錄上放上了，你在圖片的下方可以看到
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not just a front elevation, but also
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不僅有正視圖還有
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a side, rear
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側視圖，後視圖
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and other side elevation.
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和另一邊的側視圖
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So now, I had all the topology I needed
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現在，我有了所有複製
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to replicate the Maltese Falcon.
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馬爾他之鷹的資料
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What do they do, how do you start something like that? I really don't know.
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他們怎麼做的，我要如何開始？我真的什麽都不知道
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So what I did was, again, like I did with the dodo skull,
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所以我又一次，像製作渡渡鳥模型那樣，
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I blew all my reference up to full size,
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我把我所有的數據放大到實際的尺寸，
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and then I began cutting out the negatives and using
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然後刪去多餘的部份，用之前提到的那些
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those templates as shape references.
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模型作為外形參考
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So I took Sculpey, and I built a big block of it,
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用黏土做了一個雛形出來
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and I passed it through until, you know, I got the right profiles.
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然後我把它擱起來，直到我有了準確的側視圖後
09:28
And then slowly, feather by feather, detail by detail,
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再慢慢地一個羽毛 一個羽毛地雕，
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I worked out and achieved --
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就不斷的在電視機前刻
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working in front of the television and Super Sculpey --
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終於做出了一隻鷹
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here's me sitting next to my wife --
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這是我坐在我妻子旁邊
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it's the only picture I took of the entire process.
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這是整個過程中我拍得唯一一幅像片
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As I moved through, I achieved
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到了最後，我完成了
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a very reasonable facsimile of the Maltese Falcon.
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馬爾他之鷹的複製，一件很不錯的複製品。
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But again, I am not a sculptor,
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但是我並不是雕刻家，
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and so I don't know a lot of the tricks, like,
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我並不瞭解其中的很多小技巧，
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I don't know how my friend Mike gets beautiful, shiny surfaces with his Sculpey;
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我不知道我朋友麥克是如何把他作品的表面弄得漂亮有光澤
09:52
I certainly wasn't able to get it.
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我真的是不懂
09:54
So, I went down to my shop,
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我跑去我的工作室
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and I molded it and I cast it in resin,
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重新用樹脂灌了一次模，
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because in the resin, then, I could absolutely get the glass smooth finished.
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因為是樹脂做的模，我就可以進行玻璃光面的精整
10:02
Now there's a lot of ways to fill and get yourself a nice smooth finish.
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現在有很多方法去進行光面精整
10:05
My preference is about 70 coats of this --
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我偏好塗上70層的這種
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matte black auto primer.
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塗磨砂的黑色汽車底漆
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I spray it on for about three or four days, it drips to hell,
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我整整噴了3到4天，這傢伙可難弄了，一直滴
10:13
but it allows me a really, really nice gentle sanding surface
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但是它可以讓我有一個細緻磨光的表面
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and I can get it glass-smooth.
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才能再進行拋光處理
10:18
Oh, finishing up with triple-zero steel wool.
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最後還得用上000型的鋼絲絨
10:20
Now, the great thing about getting it to this point was that
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現在，要進行最有趣的工作了
10:23
because in the movie, when they finally bring out the bird at the end,
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因為在電影的最後，他們有把那隻鷹拿出來
10:25
and they place it on the table, they actually spin it.
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還放在了桌子上面，轉了一圈
10:28
So I was able to actually
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要知道 這讓我能
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screen-shot and freeze-frame to make sure.
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一幀一幀的去確認（它的色澤）
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And I'm following all the light kicks on this thing and making sure that as I'm holding the light
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我觀察打在鷹上的燈光，去確認我有和電影中一樣
10:36
in the same position, I'm getting the same type of reflection on it --
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把光線從同一處打在鷹上，並且確認我的鷹上的反光有電影中一樣
10:39
that's the level of detail I'm going into this thing.
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這是非常之精細的工作
10:42
I ended up with this: my Maltese Falcon.
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做成之後就是這樣：我的馬爾他之鷹
10:45
And it's beautiful. And I can state with authority
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很帥吧，我敢說
10:47
at this point in time, when I'd finished it,
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我完成的鷹
10:49
of all of the replicas out there -- and there is a few --
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在本來就少有的複製品中
10:52
this is by far the most accurate
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是迄今為止最精確地
10:54
representation of the original Maltese Falcon
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還原了原作的
10:56
than anyone has sculpted. Now the original one, I should tell you,
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現在我要告訴你們的
10:59
is sculpted by a guy named Fred Sexton.
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有關一位名叫弗雷德·塞克斯頓的
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This is where it gets weird.
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就是這位雕塑師讓這鷹如此詭異
11:04
Fred Sexton was a friend of this guy, George Hodel.
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弗雷德·塞克斯頓是喬治·霍德爾的一位朋友
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Terrifying guy -- agreed by many to be the killer
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一個恐怖的人—被許多人認為是
11:09
of the Black Dahlia.
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黑色大麗花事件的兇手
11:11
Now, James Ellroy believes
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詹姆斯·埃爾羅伊 (作家）還認定
11:13
that Fred Sexton, the sculptor of the Maltese Falcon,
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是弗雷德·塞克斯頓
11:16
killed James Elroy's mother.
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殺了他的母親
11:18
I'll go you one stranger than that: In 1974,
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還有更蹊蹺的是
11:21
during the production of a weird comedy sequel to "The Maltese Falcon,"
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1974年由喬治西格爾主演
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called "The Black Bird," starring George Segal,
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的馬爾他之鷹的喜劇續集“The black bird”拍攝時
11:26
the Los Angeles County Museum of Art
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一隻原來由洛杉磯美術博物館所擁有的
11:28
had a plaster original of the Maltese Falcon --
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馬爾他之鷹的石膏像，
11:30
one of the original six plasters, I think, made for the movie --
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那可是6個最原型的石膏像之一
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stolen out of the museum. A lot of people thought
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從博物館被偷走。當時許多人認為
11:35
it was a publicity stunt for the movie.
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那是The Black Bird做的一個噱頭
11:37
John's Grill, which actually
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John's Grill這個在電影馬爾他之鷹
11:39
is seen briefly in "The Maltese Falcon,"
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中短暫出現的小店
11:41
is still a viable San Francisco eatery,
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現在仍在三藩市里
11:43
counted amongst its regular customers Elisha Cook,
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以利沙·庫克，在電影裡扮演了威爾默庫克
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who played Wilmer Cook in the movie,
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也是這裡的常客
11:47
and he gave them
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他曾把一隻原版的馬爾地之鷹（石膏像）
11:49
one of his original plasters of the Maltese Falcon.
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送給了這家店
11:52
And they had it in their cabinet for about 15 years,
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這隻鷹在店裡的櫥窗待了15年
11:55
until it got stolen
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直到它在2007年的一月
11:57
in January of 2007.
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被人給偷走了
12:00
It would seem that the object of desire
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這就好像一件東西的價值
12:02
only comes into its own by disappearing repeatedly.
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只有在它消失幾次後才能體現出來似的
12:05
So here I had this Falcon,
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現在我已經有了這隻“鷹”
12:07
and it was lovely. It looked really great,
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它很可愛，很棒
12:09
the light worked on it really well,
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光澤很漂亮
12:11
it was better than anything that I could achieve
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他比我在這個世上能完成的
12:13
or obtain out in the world.
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能得到的任何東西都好些
12:15
But there was a problem. And the problem was that:
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但是現在仍有有一個問題，
12:19
I wanted the entirety of the object,
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我希望獲得這個東西的全部
12:21
I wanted the weight behind the object.
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我想這件物品的真正重量
12:24
This thing was made of resin and it was too light.
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這隻用樹脂做的鷹太輕了
12:26
There's this group online that I frequent.
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網上有一個我經常拜訪的社群
12:28
It's a group of prop crazies just like me
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全是由像我一樣的道具狂人組成的
12:31
called the Replica Props Forum, and it's people who trade,
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叫做 仿真品論壇。那裡提供了一個
12:33
make and travel in information about movie props.
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有關電影道具交易，製作，交流的地方
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And it turned out that one of the guys there,
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我在上面交了一位朋友
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a friend of mine that I never actually met,
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雖然我們從未謀面
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but befriended through some prop deals, was the manager of a local foundry.
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但是可以從於他的幾次交易中看出是個很友好的人，他是一位鑄鐵廠的經理
12:43
He took my master Falcon pattern,
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他以我的鷹為原型
12:46
he actually did lost wax casting
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用失蠟鑄造法灌了
12:48
in bronze for me,
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一個銅的給我
12:50
and this is the bronze I got back.
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這是我拿到的那個銅質的鷹
12:52
And this is, after some acid etching, the one that I ended up with.
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這是在我做了一些酸蝕後的樣子
12:54
And this thing, it's deeply, deeply satisfying to me.
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這東西，我實在實在是太中意它了
12:57
Here, I'm going to put it out there,
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現在我要，我就要把它放在這裡
12:59
later on tonight, and
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今天晚些時候，你可以
13:03
I want you to pick it up and handle it.
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我希望你們可以來掂量一下它的重量
13:07
You want to know
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希望你們能理解
13:10
how obsessed I am. This project's only for me,
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這鷹的魅力。這是我的收藏
13:12
and yet I went so far as to buy on eBay
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我還專門為它在eBay上買了
13:15
a 1941 Chinese San Francisco-based newspaper,
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一份1941年三藩市出刊的中文報紙
13:18
in order so that the bird could properly be wrapped ...
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爲了讓這鷹能像電影中一樣
13:22
like it is in the movie.
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被這樣包起來
13:24
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
13:28
Yeah, I know!
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我知道（這很瘋狂）
13:30
(Laughter) (Applause)
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（掌聲）（笑聲）
13:35
There you can see, it's weighing in at 27 and a half pounds.
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你可以看到它有27磅半重
13:38
That's half the weight of my dog, Huxley.
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是我的狗﹣賀胥黎（Huxley)的一半重
13:42
But there's a problem.
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但是還是有一個問題
13:45
Now, here's the most recent progression of Falcons.
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是馬爾他之鷹最新的進展
13:48
On the far left is a piece of crap -- a replica I bought on eBay.
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最左邊的那個是我在eBay上買到，做的很爛的
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There's my somewhat ruined Sculpey Falcon,
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這是一隻用黏土做的 已經有點毀壞的鷹
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because I had to get it back out of the mold. There's my first casting,
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因為我把它用來做模，這是我鑄的第一隻鷹
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there's my master and there's my bronze.
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這是我做的最棒的和我的那隻銅鷹
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There's a thing that happens when you mold and cast things,
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當你做模鑄東西時
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which is that every time you throw it into silicone and cast it in resin,
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每次你把它丟到矽脂中澆鑄它時
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you lose a little bit of volume, you lose a little bit of size.
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都會流失一點體積 一點大小
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And when I held my bronze one up against my Sculpey one,
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當我把銅鷹和樹脂鷹並排的時候
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it was shorter by three-quarters of an inch.
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可以看出它矮了四分之三吋
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Yeah, no, really, this was like aah --
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這真的，這感覺就像“啊啊啊啊.."
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why didn't I remember this?
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我爲什麽當時沒有留意？
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Why didn't I start and make it bigger?
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爲什麽我一開始沒把它做大一些？
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So what do I do? I figure I have two options.
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我還能怎麼辦啊？我想出了兩個方案
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One, I can fire a freaking laser at it,
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第一，我可以用鐳射
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which I have already done,
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當然我已經那麼做了
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to do a 3D scan -- there's a 3D scan of this Falcon.
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做了一個3D的立體掃描，這就是那個3D的掃描圖
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I had figured out the exact amount of shrinkage I achieved
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我已經精確地算出了從蠟像到銅像
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going from a wax master to a bronze master
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過程中縮水程度
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and blown this up big enough to make
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可以把它放大到足以
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a 3D lithography master of this,
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用雷射刻出一個立體石雕的大小
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which I will polish, then I will send to the mold maker
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磨光后，我就會把它送到鑄模匠那去
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and then I will have it done in bronze. Or:
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然後我會把它鑄成銅的
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There are several people who own originals,
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最好的方法，就找到那些擁有原作的人
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and I have been attempting to contact them and reach them,
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我已經嘗試去聯繫了他們
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hoping that they will let me spend a few minutes
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希望他們能給我幾分鐘
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in the presence of one of the real birds, maybe to take a picture,
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讓我看看真品，可能的話照張照片
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or even to pull out the hand-held laser scanner
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或是可以讓我拿出手持式的鐳射掃描儀
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that I happen to own that fits inside a cereal box,
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那東西小到塞的進麥片盒子
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and could maybe, without even touching their bird, I swear,
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我甚至可以保證在碰都不碰他們的鷹
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get a perfect 3D scan. And I'm even willing to sign pages
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做一個3D掃描，我還可以簽下合約
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saying that I'll never let anyone else have it, except for me in my office, I promise.
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不讓任何人得到這個掃描 除了我以外，我保證
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I'll give them one if they want it.
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只要他們想要 我會給他們一份我做的
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And then, maybe, then I'll achieve the end of this exercise.
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在那之後，也許，我才算完成了這次製作
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But really, if we're all going to be honest with ourselves,
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不過真的，如果我們很真實的面對自己，
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I have to admit that achieving the end of the exercise
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我必須坦白說，達成最終結果這件事
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was never the point of the exercise to begin with, was it.
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從來不是開始這過程的目的，不是這樣嗎？
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Thank you.
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Adam Savage - Maker, critical thinkerAdam Savage is an internationally renowned television producer, host and public speaker.
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