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Emily Quinn: The way we think about biological sex is wrong
艾米莉·奎因: 我们理解生理性别的方式是错误的
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你知道世界上大约有1.5亿人生来就是双性人吗——生物学上没有办法符合男性和女性的标准定义？（这个数字和俄罗斯的人口相当。）10岁时，艾米莉·奎因发现她是双性人。在这个充满智慧的有趣的演讲中，她分享了自己令人大开眼界的经验之谈。这些经验源于致力于改变社会不经思考的期许、那些要求她进行没必要手术的医生的人生经历——以及为对自己的支持和对人类不可思议的多样性的支持。（包含成人语言）
Emily Quinn - Artist, activist, author
Emily Quinn describes herself as "a ballsy intersex activist who uses humor and storytelling to create a more welcoming world for people who don’t fit in a box." Full bio
Emily Quinn describes herself as "a ballsy intersex activist who uses humor and storytelling to create a more welcoming world for people who don’t fit in a box." Full bio
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00:12
[This talk contains mature content]
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（本视频包含成人内容）
00:16
I have a vagina.
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我有一个阴道。
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(Laughter)
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（笑声）
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Just thought you should know.
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我只是觉得你们应该知道。
00:21
That might not come
as a surprise to some of you.
as a surprise to some of you.
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你们中的有些人可能并不会对此惊讶。
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I look like a woman.
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我看上去是个女人。
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I'm dressed like one, I guess.
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我想，我穿着也像个女人。
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The thing is, I also have balls.
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事实上，我也有着睾丸。
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And it does take a lot of nerve
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我需要很多勇气
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to come up here and talk to you
about my genitalia.
about my genitalia.
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站在这里和你们谈我的生殖器官。
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Just a little.
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或是一点勇气。
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But I'm not talking
about bravery or courage.
about bravery or courage.
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但我不是来谈勇敢或是勇气的。
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I mean literally -- I have balls.
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我说的是真的——我有睾丸。
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Right here,
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就在这里，
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right where a lot of you have ovaries.
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就在你们很多人卵巢所在的地方。
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I'm not male or female.
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我既不是男人，也不是女人。
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I'm intersex.
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我是双性人。
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Most people assume that you're
biologically either a man or a woman,
biologically either a man or a woman,
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大部分人认为人在生理上
要么是男人，要么是女人，
要么是男人，要么是女人，
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but it's actually a lot more
complex than that.
complex than that.
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但事实远远比这复杂。
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There are so many ways
somebody could be intersex.
somebody could be intersex.
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成为双性人的成因有很多。
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In my case, it means
I was born with XY chromosomes,
I was born with XY chromosomes,
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我的情况是，我出生就有XY染色体，
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which you probably know
as male chromosomes.
as male chromosomes.
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你们也许知道这是男性染色体。
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And I was born with a vagina
and balls inside my body.
and balls inside my body.
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我出生就有阴道，
而睾丸在我的身体内。
而睾丸在我的身体内。
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I don't respond to testosterone,
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我对睾丸酮没有反应，
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so during puberty, I grew breasts,
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所以青春期时，我的胸部增大，
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but I never got acne
or body hair, body oil.
or body hair, body oil.
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但是从未有过粉刺，
体毛或是（过多）油脂。
体毛或是（过多）油脂。
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You can be jealous of that.
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你们也许会嫉妒吧。
01:25
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
01:27
But even though I don't
actually have a uterus --
actually have a uterus --
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但是尽管我实际上没有子宫——
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I was born without one,
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我出生时就没有，
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so I don't menstruate,
I can't have biological children.
I can't have biological children.
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所以我没有月经，
我不能生孩子。
我不能生孩子。
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We put people in boxes
based on their genitalia.
based on their genitalia.
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我们根据人们的生殖器对其分类。
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Before a baby's even born,
we ask whether it's a boy or a girl,
we ask whether it's a boy or a girl,
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甚至在孩子出生之前，
我们就问是个男孩，还是个女孩，
我们就问是个男孩，还是个女孩，
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as if it actually matters;
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好像这事实上很重要似的；
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as if you're going to be less excited
about having a baby
about having a baby
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好像如果孩子没有你想要的生殖器，
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if it doesn't have
the genitals you wanted;
the genitals you wanted;
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你就会对有孩子这件事情
不那么兴奋似的；
不那么兴奋似的；
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as if what's between somebody's legs
tells you anything about that person.
tells you anything about that person.
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好像一个人腿间的东西（生殖器）
能告诉你关于这个人的任何事情似的。
能告诉你关于这个人的任何事情似的。
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Are they kind, generous, funny?
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他们善良、慷慨、有趣吗？
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Smart?
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聪明吗？
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Who do they want to be when they grow up?
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当他们长大时，他们想成为什么样的人？
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Genitals don't actually tell you anything.
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实际上，生殖器不会告诉你任何东西。
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Yet, we define ourselves by them.
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但是，我们仍根据它们来定义自我。
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In this society, we love
putting people into boxes
putting people into boxes
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在这个社会，我们喜欢将人们分类，
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and labeling each other.
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彼此互贴标签。
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It kind of gives us a sense of belonging
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这或许让我们有了一丝归属感，
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and teaches us how to interact
with one another.
with one another.
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教会我们如何相互交流。
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But there's one really big problem:
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但是这有一个很大的问题：
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biological sex is not black or white.
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生理性别不是非黑即白的。
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It's on a spectrum.
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它是在一个区间上的。
02:28
Besides your genitalia,
you also have your chromosomes,
you also have your chromosomes,
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除了你的生殖器，
你还有染色体，
你还有染色体，
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your gonads, like ovaries or testicles.
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性腺，比如卵巢或睾丸。
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You have your internal sex organs,
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你有内部性器官，
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your hormone production,
your hormone response
your hormone response
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荷尔蒙分泌，荷尔蒙反应，
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and your secondary sex characteristics,
like breast development, body hair, etc.
like breast development, body hair, etc.
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以及第二性征，
比如乳房发育和体毛等等。
比如乳房发育和体毛等等。
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Those seven areas of biological sex
all have so much variation,
all have so much variation,
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生理性别的七个方面，
都存在着很多的变化，
都存在着很多的变化，
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yet we only get two options:
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但我们只面临着两个选择：
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male or female.
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男性或女性。
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Which is kind of absurd to me,
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这让我感到有些荒谬，
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because I can't think
of a single other human trait
of a single other human trait
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因为我无法想到任何
其他的人类特征，
其他的人类特征，
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that there's only two options for:
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只存在两个选项：
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skin color, hair, height, eyes.
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肤色、头发、身高、眼睛。
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You can either have nose A or nose B,
that's it, no other options.
that's it, no other options.
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你只可以有A类鼻子或B类鼻子，
没有其他选项。
没有其他选项。
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If there are infinite ways
for our bodies to look,
for our bodies to look,
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如果有无数种方式来呈现我们的身体，
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our minds to think,
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来定义我们的思维，
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personalities to act,
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来表现我们的个性，
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wouldn't it make sense
that there's that much variety
that there's that much variety
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那么在生理性别上存在多种选择，
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in biological sex, too?
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不也就说得通了吗？
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Did you know that besides
XX or XY chromosomes,
XX or XY chromosomes,
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你们知道除了XX或XY染色体，
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you could have XX and XY chromosomes?
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你可以同时拥有XX和XY染色体吗？
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Or you could have an extra X -- XXY.
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或是你可以多有一个X——XXY。
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Or two extra -- XXXY.
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或是多两个X——XXXY。
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Goes on from there.
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以此类推。
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And for those "normal"
people with XX or XY,
people with XX or XY,
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对于那么只有XX或XY的“正常”人来说，
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what does that mean?
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这意味着什么？
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I have XY chromosomes.
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我拥有XY染色体。
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If my DNA is found
at the scene of a crime --
at the scene of a crime --
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如果在犯罪现场发现了我的基因，
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not saying it will,
but, you know, we'll see.
but, you know, we'll see.
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只是打个比方，
但是谁知道呢。
但是谁知道呢。
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(Laughter)
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（笑声）
03:49
If my skeleton is discovered
thousands of years from now,
thousands of years from now,
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如果我的骨骼在数千年后被发现，
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I'll be labeled male.
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我会被标记成男性。
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Is that the truth?
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真是这样吗？
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My balls would say so.
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我的睾丸会说是的。
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But what about the rest of me?
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但我的其他部分呢？
04:02
And what if a woman has ovarian cancer
and has to have her ovaries removed?
and has to have her ovaries removed?
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如果一个女人得了卵巢癌，
不得不摘掉她的卵巢呢？
不得不摘掉她的卵巢呢？
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Does she still qualify as a woman?
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她还算是个女人吗？
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What about other intersex people
who are born without balls or ovaries
who are born without balls or ovaries
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那些生来没有睾丸或卵巢的双性人，
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or with just one
or a combination of the two?
or a combination of the two?
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或是只有一种，或是两者都有的双性人呢？
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Where do they go?
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他们该何去何从？
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Do you have to have a uterus
to be a woman?
to be a woman?
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必须得拥有子宫，
才能算得上女人吗？
才能算得上女人吗？
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There's a lot of us
who are born without one.
who are born without one.
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我们中的很多都生来没有子宫。
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And everyone's favorite part, genitalia:
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下面是大家喜闻乐见的部分，生殖器：
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you either have one or the other, right?
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要么是这一个，要么是另一个，对吗？
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You either have a six-inch-long penis
that's exactly this thick,
that's exactly this thick,
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你要么有这么粗的六英寸长的阴茎，
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jutting straight out of the body
at a 90-degree angle,
at a 90-degree angle,
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以90度角伸出身体，
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or you have a vagina
that's this wide internally
that's this wide internally
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要么有内部这么宽的阴道，
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and a clitoris that's half an inch
above the vaginal opening
above the vaginal opening
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和位于阴道口上方半英寸的阴蒂
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and labia that look exactly
like they're supposed to look like,
like they're supposed to look like,
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以及看上去就和它们
应该看上去一样的阴唇，
应该看上去一样的阴唇，
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according to that one porn video
you watched that one time.
you watched that one time.
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就像你某次从色情片里看到的那样。
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You know the one.
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你应该记起来了。
04:46
If you've been with more than one
sexual partner in your lifetime,
sexual partner in your lifetime,
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如果你一生中有过
多于一个的性伴侣，
多于一个的性伴侣，
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and you line them up, one by one,
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你把他们一个接一个排起来，
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I guarantee you can identify them
just by their genitalia.
just by their genitalia.
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我保证你可以根据
他们的生殖器认出他们。
他们的生殖器认出他们。
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(Laughter)
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（笑声）
04:56
Think about it.
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想想看吧。
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Go on.
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继续想。
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(Laughter)
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（笑声）
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I see you.
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我懂你们。
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No judging.
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不做评判。
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Just notice.
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只是说说。
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All different, right?
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都不一样，对吧？
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The sex and gender binary
are both so ingrained in our society,
are both so ingrained in our society,
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性和性别这对二元组合在我们的
社会里十分根深蒂固，
社会里十分根深蒂固，
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that we never stop to think about it.
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我们每时每刻都会想到。
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We just automatically place each other
into one box or the other,
into one box or the other,
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我们自动的把彼此分进一个类别，
或是剩下的一个类别，
或是剩下的一个类别，
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as if it actually matters.
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好像这真的很重要似的。
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Until somebody comes along
to make you question it.
to make you question it.
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直到有人让你对此产生怀疑。
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And if you're thinking that
I'm the exception, an anomaly, an outlier:
I'm the exception, an anomaly, an outlier:
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如果你们认为我是个例外、
是个反常现象、是个非典型案例：
是个反常现象、是个非典型案例：
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intersex people represent
around two percent of the population.
around two percent of the population.
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人群中有2%的人为双性人。
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That's the same percentage
as genetic redheads.
as genetic redheads.
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这和人群中红色头发的人数比例相当。
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It's about 150 million people, roughly,
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相当于大约有1.5亿人，
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which is more than
the entire population of Russia.
the entire population of Russia.
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这比整个俄罗斯的人口还要多。
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So there's a lot of us, needless to say.
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所以不必多言，我们数量庞大。
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We're not new or rare.
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我们既不是新产生的，也不是少见的。
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We're just invisible.
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我们只是隐形罢了。
05:57
We've existed throughout
every culture in history.
every culture in history.
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我们在历史上的每个文化里都存在过。
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Yet, we never talk about it.
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但是，我们从不提及这件事。
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In fact, a lot of people might not know
that they're intersex.
that they're intersex.
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事实上，许多人或许不知道
他们是双性人。
他们是双性人。
06:07
Have you had a karyotype test
to determine your chromosomes?
to determine your chromosomes?
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你们是否参加过核型测试来
确定你们的染色体？
确定你们的染色体？
06:12
What about a full blood panel
for all of your hormone levels?
for all of your hormone levels?
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是否取过一整版的血样来
测试你们的荷尔蒙水平？
测试你们的荷尔蒙水平？
06:16
A friend of mine found out
last year, in his 50s.
last year, in his 50s.
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去年，我的一个朋友在他50多岁时才发现。
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The executive director of interACT,
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interACT这个在美国为双性人争取权利的
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which is the leading organization
for intersex human rights here in the US,
for intersex human rights here in the US,
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先锋组织的执行董事，
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she found out she was intersex at age 41.
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她在41岁时才发现她是双性人。
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Her doctors found out when she was 15,
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她的医生们在她15岁时就知道了，
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but they didn't tell her.
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但是他们没有告诉她。
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They lied and said that she had cancer,
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他们谎称她得了癌症，
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because that seemed like an easier option
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因为这看上去比说
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than finding out
she wasn't "fully" a woman.
she wasn't "fully" a woman.
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她不“完全”是个女人来的要简单。
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This kind of thing happens a lot,
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这类事情经常发生，
06:46
where intersex people are lied to
or kept in the dark about our bodies,
or kept in the dark about our bodies,
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即在身体这件事上，双性人
被欺骗，被蒙在鼓里，
被欺骗，被蒙在鼓里，
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which comes as a surprise
to a lot of people.
to a lot of people.
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人们为此感到惊讶。
06:53
But we live in a society that doesn't talk
about sex or bodies at all,
about sex or bodies at all,
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但是我们生活在这个一点都
不谈论性或身体的社会里，
不谈论性或身体的社会里，
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unless it's to mock or shame each other.
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除非是嘲弄对方。
07:01
I found out I was intersex at age 10,
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我在10岁时发现了我是双性人，
07:03
and for the most part,
I was fine with that information.
I was fine with that information.
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大部分时间来说，
我坦然接受了这一点。
我坦然接受了这一点。
07:08
It didn't really faze me;
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这没怎么让我惊恐；
07:09
I was still developing
my understanding of the world.
my understanding of the world.
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我那时还在形成我对世界的理解。
07:13
It wasn't until I got older
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直到我长得更大了些时，
07:15
and realized I didn't fit
society's expectations of me,
society's expectations of me,
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我才意识到我不符合社会对我的期许，
07:19
that I didn't belong, that I was abnormal.
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我不属于这里，我是个异类。
07:22
And that's when the shame started.
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那时，羞耻感开始产生了。
07:25
How many times have you seen kids
play with the "wrong" toys
play with the "wrong" toys
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多少次，你看到过孩子们和
他们性别“相左”的
他们性别“相左”的
07:28
for their gender?
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玩具玩耍？
07:29
Or try on the "wrong" clothes?
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或是穿上了“不对”的衣服？
07:31
All the time, right?
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一直都有，对吗？
07:33
Kids don't have these ideas
about gender norm,
about gender norm,
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孩子们对性别规范没有概念，
07:36
they don't have shame
about who they're supposed to be
about who they're supposed to be
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他们不会对他们应该成为什么样的人，
07:39
or what they're supposed to like or love.
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或是他们应该爱什么样的人产生羞耻感。
07:43
They don't care about any of this stuff.
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他们对这些事情毫不关心。
07:46
They don't have shame
until we put it on them.
until we put it on them.
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他们不会感到羞耻，
直到我们强加给他们。
直到我们强加给他们。
07:50
I also had doctors lie to me.
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我的医生们也对我撒了谎。
07:52
At age 10, they told me
that I would also get cancer
that I would also get cancer
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10岁时，他们对我说如果
我不移除我的睾丸的话，
我不移除我的睾丸的话，
07:57
unless I removed my balls.
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我就会得癌症。
07:59
Then they proceeded
to tell me that every year.
to tell me that every year.
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然后，他们每年都会这么对我说。
08:02
Until today, there are still doctors
who want me to remove them.
who want me to remove them.
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直至今日，仍有医生告诉我要摘掉它们。
08:06
But there's literally no reason.
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但是，这背后真的没有原因。
08:09
If a typical XY male,
like yourself, has testicles,
like yourself, has testicles,
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如果一个典型的XY男性，
比如你自己，有睾丸的话，
比如你自己，有睾丸的话，
08:14
and one is undescended,
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而其中一个是未降睾丸，
08:16
there's a high chance of it
becoming cancerous --
becoming cancerous --
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那么这个睾丸很可能会发展出癌症——
08:19
or a higher chance
of it becoming cancerous.
of it becoming cancerous.
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或是有更高的癌症风险。
08:21
They need to thermoregulated.
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睾丸需要温控调节。
08:23
So they drop down
away from the body to cool off,
away from the body to cool off,
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所以它们会下降远离身体来降温，
08:26
or they shrink back up to get warm.
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或是收缩回升来升温。
08:29
Mine don't need to do that.
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我的睾丸不会这么做。
08:31
They're not responding to testosterone,
they're not producing sperm.
they're not producing sperm.
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它们不对睾丸酮产生反应，
它们不会产生精子。
它们不会产生精子。
08:35
They're fine right here inside my body.
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它们在我的身体里好好的。
08:38
Yet, because there's such a lack
of information about intersex people,
of information about intersex people,
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但是，由于对双性人知识的匮乏，
08:42
my doctors never understood
the difference.
the difference.
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我的医生们永远都不知道这其中的差别。
08:44
They never really understood my body.
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他们永远都不能真正理解我的身体。
08:47
As I got older,
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随着我长大，
08:48
I had another doctor tell me that
I needed to have surgery on my vagina.
I needed to have surgery on my vagina.
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我遇到另一个医生，告诉我
我的阴道需要动手术。
我的阴道需要动手术。
08:52
She said that until I had an operation,
until she operated,
until she operated,
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她告诉我，除非我动手术，
除非她主刀，
除非她主刀，
08:56
I would not be able to have
"normal sex" with my husband one day.
"normal sex" with my husband one day.
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否则我将不能和我的丈夫有
“正常的性行为”。
“正常的性行为”。
09:02
Her words.
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她的原话。
09:05
I didn't end up going through
with the operation,
with the operation,
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最终我没有进行手术，
09:07
and I'm incredibly grateful for that.
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我十分感激我的决定。
09:11
I'm not here to talk about my sex life.
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我在这就不谈我的性生活了。
09:13
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
09:15
But let's just say it's fine.
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其实我的性生活挺不错的。
09:18
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
09:20
I'm fine, my body is fine.
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我很好，我的身体也很好。
09:22
You actually wouldn’t be able
to tell the difference
to tell the difference
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如果我不告诉你们的话，
你们实际上不会发现
你们实际上不会发现
09:25
between me and another person
unless I told you;
unless I told you;
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我和另一个人的区别；
09:28
you wouldn't be able to tell
that I was intersex unless I told you.
that I was intersex unless I told you.
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你们不会发现我是双性人，
除非我告诉你们。
除非我告诉你们。
09:32
But again, because of the lack
of understanding about bodies,
of understanding about bodies,
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但又一次，因为对于身体知识的匮乏，
09:35
my doctor didn't understand
the difference.
the difference.
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我的医生没法理解其中的区别。
09:38
And for the most part,
my sex life is fine.
my sex life is fine.
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大部分时间来说，
我的性生活很不错。
我的性生活很不错。
09:41
The only issue that really comes up
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唯一真正的问题是
09:43
is that sometimes, sexual situations
bring up memories of doctors touching me,
bring up memories of doctors touching me,
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有时，性情景会勾起
医生触碰我时的回忆，
医生触碰我时的回忆，
09:49
over and over again since I was 10.
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从我十岁起，一遍又一遍的触碰。
09:53
I've been really lucky to escape --
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我很幸运能够逃脱——
09:56
I didn't think I would get emotional --
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我没想到我竟然有些不能自已——
09:59
I've been really lucky to escape
the physical harm
the physical harm
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我很幸运能够逃脱来自那些
10:03
that comes from these
unnecessary surgeries.
unnecessary surgeries.
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不必要的手术的生理伤害。
10:07
But no intersex person is free
from the emotional harm
from the emotional harm
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但是双性人无法避免
来自社会的精神伤害，
来自社会的精神伤害，
10:11
that comes from living in a society
that tries to cover up your existence.
that tries to cover up your existence.
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这个双性人生存的社会，
在努力掩盖他们的存在。
在努力掩盖他们的存在。
10:17
Most of my intersex friends
have had operations like these.
have had operations like these.
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我的许多双性人朋友都做了这样的手术。
10:21
Oftentimes, they will remove
testes like mine,
testes like mine,
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许多时候，他们会移除
像我身体内一样的睾丸，
像我身体内一样的睾丸，
10:24
even though my risk of testicular cancer
is lower than the risk of breast cancer
is lower than the risk of breast cancer
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尽管我患睾丸癌的概率
要小于一个没有疾病体质、
要小于一个没有疾病体质、
10:31
in a typical woman with
no predisposition, no family history.
no predisposition, no family history.
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没有家族病史的正常女人
患乳腺癌的概率。
患乳腺癌的概率。
10:36
But we don't tell her
to remove her breasts, do we?
to remove her breasts, do we?
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但是我们不会让她摘掉乳房，是吗？
10:42
It's rare to meet an intersex person
that hasn't been operated on.
that hasn't been operated on.
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很难找到没有做过手术的双性人。
10:48
Oftentimes, these surgeries are done
to improve intersex kids' lives,
to improve intersex kids' lives,
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很多时候，这些手术的目的是为了
提高双性人孩子的生命质量，
提高双性人孩子的生命质量，
10:53
but they usually end up
doing the opposite,
doing the opposite,
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但是它们往往起了反作用，
10:55
causing more harm and complications,
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造成了更多的伤害和综合征，
10:59
both physical and emotional.
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既有身体上的，也有心理上的。
11:04
I'm not saying that
doctors are bad or evil.
doctors are bad or evil.
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我不是说所有的医生都是坏的
或是邪恶的。
或是邪恶的。
11:07
It's just that we live in a society
that causes some doctors to "fix"
that causes some doctors to "fix"
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我只是说，我们生活在
这么一个社会，促使医生去“修正”
这么一个社会，促使医生去“修正”
11:12
those of us who don't fit
their definition of normal.
their definition of normal.
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我们这些不符合他们定义的正常的人。
11:17
We're not problems that need to be fixed.
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我们不是需要被修正的问题。
11:21
We just live in a society
that needs to be enlightened.
that needs to be enlightened.
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我们只是生活在一个
需要被教化的社会里。
需要被教化的社会里。
11:26
One of the ways I'm doing that
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我正在尝试的一种方法是
11:27
is by creating a genderless
puberty guidebook
puberty guidebook
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创造无性别的青春期指南，
11:31
that can teach kids
about their bodies as they grow up.
about their bodies as they grow up.
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在孩子成长的过程中
教他们认知自己的身体。
教他们认知自己的身体。
11:34
Not their girl bodies
or their boy bodies --
or their boy bodies --
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不是女孩的身体或是男孩的身体——
11:36
just their bodies.
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只是他们的身体。
11:38
We often place unrealistic expectations
on the things that our bodies do
on the things that our bodies do
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我们常常对我们无法控制的身体上的事情
11:42
that are outside of our control.
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有着不切实际的期许。
11:44
I mean, if one man can grow
a full, luxurious, hipster beard,
a full, luxurious, hipster beard,
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我是说，如果一个人可以长出浓郁的、
茂密的、嬉皮士般的胡子，
茂密的、嬉皮士般的胡子，
11:48
and the other can only grow
a few mustache hairs,
a few mustache hairs,
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而另一个人只能长出几撮小胡子，
11:52
what does that mean
about who they are as men?
about who they are as men?
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这对于判断他们是不是男性意味着什么？
11:55
Nothing.
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什么都没有。
11:57
It literally, most likely, just means
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最有可能的解释只有
11:58
that their hair follicles
respond to testosterone in different ways.
respond to testosterone in different ways.
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他们的毛囊细胞对睾丸酮的
反应不尽相同。
反应不尽相同。
12:03
Yet, how many times have you heard
a man ashamed about something like this?
a man ashamed about something like this?
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但是，你们何曾听过多少男人会
因为类似的事情感到羞愧吗？
因为类似的事情感到羞愧吗？
12:10
Imagine a world where
we could live in a society
we could live in a society
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试想这样一个世界，在这个社会中，
12:13
that teaches us not to have shame
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人们不会因为身体拥有某个特点，
12:16
about the things
that our bodies do or do not do.
that our bodies do or do not do.
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或没有某个特点，而感到羞愧。
12:23
I want to change the way that we think
about biological sex in this society --
about biological sex in this society --
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我想要改变这个社会上
我们对于生理性别的看法——
我们对于生理性别的看法——
12:29
which is a lot to ask for.
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这需要做很多工作。
12:31
You could say it's ballsy, I guess.
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或许你们会说这很勇敢。
12:33
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
12:36
But eventually we accepted
the world as round, right?
the world as round, right?
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但是最终我们接受了世界是圆的，不是吗？
12:40
We no longer diagnose gay people
with mental disorders
with mental disorders
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我们不再认为男同性恋患有精神疾病，
12:43
or women with hysteria.
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或认为女同性恋患有癔症。
12:46
We don't think epilepsy is caused
by the devil anymore, so that's cool.
by the devil anymore, so that's cool.
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我们不再认为癫痫是恶魔附体，
这很好对吧。
这很好对吧。
12:51
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
12:52
We constantly change and evolve,
the more we understand as a society.
the more we understand as a society.
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我们不断地改变和演进，
作为社会也因我们越来越理解开化。
作为社会也因我们越来越理解开化。
12:57
And biological sex is on a spectrum.
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生理性别是在一个区间上的。
12:59
It's not black or white.
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它不是非黑即白。
13:01
Not only could that knowledge
save intersex kids
save intersex kids
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这样的知识不仅能够拯救双性人孩子
13:04
from physical and emotional harm,
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免于身体和精神的伤害，
13:06
I think it would help everyone else, too.
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而且我认为这也有助于所有人。
13:09
Who here has ever felt
inadequate or ashamed
inadequate or ashamed
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这里有没有人曾经因为不够女孩子，
13:13
because you weren't girly enough,
you were too girly,
you were too girly,
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或是太女孩子气了，抑或是不够男子汉，
13:16
you weren't manly enough, or too manly?
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或是太男子气了而感到没有自信或羞耻？
13:19
We constantly shame people
for not fitting into a box,
for not fitting into a box,
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我们一直都因人们不按
其类别行事而羞辱他们，
其类别行事而羞辱他们，
13:23
but the reality is,
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但是事实是
13:24
I think we shame others
because it prevents them from seeing
because it prevents them from seeing
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我认为我们羞辱他人是为了
13:28
that we don't fit
inside our boxes, either.
inside our boxes, either.
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让他人不会意识到我们也没有按类行事。
13:31
And the truth is that
nobody actually fits in a box,
nobody actually fits in a box,
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真相是没有人真正归属于一类，
13:35
because they don't exist.
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因为类别并不存在。
13:37
This binary, this false male-female facade
is something we constructed,
is something we constructed,
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这个双元的，错误的男-女表象
只是我们自己
只是我们自己
13:43
we built ourselves.
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构建出来的东西。
13:44
But it doesn't have to exist.
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它没有必要存在。
13:48
We can break it down.
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我们可以瓦解掉它。
13:50
And that's what I want to do.
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这就是我想做的。
13:54
Will you join me?
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你们愿意加入我吗？
13:57
Thanks.
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谢谢。
13:58
(Applause)
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（掌声）
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Emily Quinn - Artist, activist, authorEmily Quinn describes herself as "a ballsy intersex activist who uses humor and storytelling to create a more welcoming world for people who don’t fit in a box."
Why you should listen
At age 10, Emily Quinn learned she was intersex. As she writes: "Doctors said not to tell anyone, poking and prodding at me like I was a science experiment. It was lonely, shameful, and I had nowhere to turn. I needed someone to tell me that it would be OK, but no one was there.
"Fourteen years later, I discovered an intersex support group, meeting hundreds of intersex people who endured trauma like mine. I knew it had to stop. I was working at Cartoon Network and decided to help create the first intersex main character on television: Lauren on MTV's 'Faking It.' I publicly came out as intersex alongside her debut, and suddenly I was bombarded with interviews, appearing in content across the web. The impact was so great that I quit my job, created a YouTube channel, began speaking globally about intersex experiences, and am now writing a YA novel. In ways I could have never imagined, I became the person I needed as a kid -- showing myself that one day it would be OK."
Emily Quinn | Speaker | TED.com