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Donald Sadoway - Materials engineer
Donald Sadoway is working on a battery miracle -- an inexpensive, incredibly efficient, three-layered battery using “liquid metal."

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The problem at the heart of many sustainable-energy systems: How to store power so it can be delivered to the grid all the time, day and night, even when the wind's not blowing and the sun's not shining? At MIT, Donald Sadoway has been working on a grid-size battery system that stores energy using a three-layer liquid-metal core. With help from fans like Bill Gates, Sadoway and two of his students have spun off the Liquid Metals Battery Corporation (LMBC) to bring the battery to market.

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Donald Sadoway: The missing link to renewable energy

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What's the key to using alternative energy, like solar and wind? Storage -- so we can have power on tap even when the sun's not out and the wind's not blowing. In this accessible, inspiring talk, Donald Sadoway takes to the blackboard to show us the future of large-scale batteries that store renewable energy. As he says: "We need to think about the problem differently. We need to think big. We need to think cheap."
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Donald Sadoway is working on a battery miracle -- an inexpensive, incredibly efficient, three-layered battery using “liquid metal." Full bio

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The electricity powering the lights in this theater
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was generated just moments ago.
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Because the way things stand today,
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electricity demand must be in constant balance
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with electricity supply.
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If in the time that it took me to walk out here on this stage,
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some tens of megawatts of wind power
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stopped pouring into the grid,
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the difference would have to be made up
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from other generators immediately.
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But coal plants, nuclear plants
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can't respond fast enough.
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A giant battery could.
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With a giant battery,
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we'd be able to address the problem of intermittency
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that prevents wind and solar
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from contributing to the grid
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in the same way that coal, gas and nuclear do today.
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You see, the battery
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is the key enabling device here.
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With it, we could draw electricity from the sun
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even when the sun doesn't shine.
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And that changes everything.
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Because then renewables
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such as wind and solar
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come out from the wings,
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here to center stage.
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Today I want to tell you about such a device.
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It's called the liquid metal battery.
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It's a new form of energy storage
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that I invented at MIT
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along with a team of my students
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and post-docs.
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Now the theme of this year's TED Conference is Full Spectrum.
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The OED defines spectrum
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as "The entire range of wavelengths
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of electromagnetic radiation,
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from the longest radio waves to the shortest gamma rays
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of which the range of visible light
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is only a small part."
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So I'm not here today only to tell you
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how my team at MIT has drawn out of nature
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a solution to one of the world's great problems.
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I want to go full spectrum and tell you how,
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in the process of developing
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this new technology,
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we've uncovered some surprising heterodoxies
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that can serve as lessons for innovation,
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ideas worth spreading.
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And you know,
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if we're going to get this country out of its current energy situation,
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we can't just conserve our way out;
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we can't just drill our way out;
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we can't bomb our way out.
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We're going to do it the old-fashioned American way,
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we're going to invent our way out,
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working together.
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(Applause)
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Now let's get started.
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The battery was invented about 200 years ago
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by a professor, Alessandro Volta,
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at the University of Padua in Italy.
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His invention gave birth to a new field of science,
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electrochemistry,
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and new technologies
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such as electroplating.
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Perhaps overlooked,
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Volta's invention of the battery
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for the first time also
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demonstrated the utility of a professor.
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(Laughter)
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Until Volta, nobody could imagine
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a professor could be of any use.
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Here's the first battery --
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a stack of coins, zinc and silver,
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separated by cardboard soaked in brine.
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This is the starting point
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for designing a battery --
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two electrodes,
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in this case metals of different composition,
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and an electrolyte,
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in this case salt dissolved in water.
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The science is that simple.
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Admittedly, I've left out a few details.
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Now I've taught you
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that battery science is straightforward
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and the need for grid-level storage
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is compelling,
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but the fact is
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that today there is simply no battery technology
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capable of meeting
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the demanding performance requirements of the grid --
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namely uncommonly high power,
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long service lifetime
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and super-low cost.
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We need to think about the problem differently.
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We need to think big,
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we need to think cheap.
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So let's abandon the paradigm
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of let's search for the coolest chemistry
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and then hopefully we'll chase down the cost curve
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by just making lots and lots of product.
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Instead, let's invent
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to the price point of the electricity market.
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So that means
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that certain parts of the periodic table
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are axiomatically off-limits.
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This battery needs to be made
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out of earth-abundant elements.
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I say, if you want to make something dirt cheap,
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make it out of dirt --
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(Laughter)
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preferably dirt
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that's locally sourced.
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And we need to be able to build this thing
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using simple manufacturing techniques and factories
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that don't cost us a fortune.
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So about six years ago,
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I started thinking about this problem.
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And in order to adopt a fresh perspective,
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I sought inspiration from beyond the field of electricity storage.
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In fact, I looked to a technology
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that neither stores nor generates electricity,
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but instead consumes electricity,
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huge amounts of it.
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I'm talking about the production of aluminum.
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The process was invented in 1886
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by a couple of 22-year-olds --
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Hall in the United States and Heroult in France.
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And just a few short years following their discovery,
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aluminum changed
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from a precious metal costing as much as silver
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to a common structural material.
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You're looking at the cell house of a modern aluminum smelter.
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It's about 50 feet wide
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and recedes about half a mile --
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row after row of cells
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that, inside, resemble Volta's battery,
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with three important differences.
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Volta's battery works at room temperature.
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It's fitted with solid electrodes
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and an electrolyte that's a solution of salt and water.
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The Hall-Heroult cell
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operates at high temperature,
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a temperature high enough
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that the aluminum metal product is liquid.
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The electrolyte
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is not a solution of salt and water,
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but rather salt that's melted.
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It's this combination of liquid metal,
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molten salt and high temperature
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that allows us to send high current through this thing.
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Today, we can produce virgin metal from ore
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at a cost of less than 50 cents a pound.
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That's the economic miracle
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of modern electrometallurgy.
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It is this that caught and held my attention
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to the point that I became obsessed with inventing a battery
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that could capture this gigantic economy of scale.
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And I did.
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I made the battery all liquid --
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liquid metals for both electrodes
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and a molten salt for the electrolyte.
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I'll show you how.
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So I put low-density
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liquid metal at the top,
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put a high-density liquid metal at the bottom,
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and molten salt in between.
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So now,
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how to choose the metals?
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For me, the design exercise
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always begins here
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with the periodic table,
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enunciated by another professor,
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Dimitri Mendeleyev.
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Everything we know
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is made of some combination
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of what you see depicted here.
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And that includes our own bodies.
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I recall the very moment one day
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when I was searching for a pair of metals
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that would meet the constraints
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of earth abundance,
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different, opposite density
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and high mutual reactivity.
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I felt the thrill of realization
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when I knew I'd come upon the answer.
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Magnesium for the top layer.
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And antimony
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for the bottom layer.
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You know, I've got to tell you,
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one of the greatest benefits of being a professor:
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colored chalk.
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(Laughter)
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So to produce current,
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magnesium loses two electrons
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to become magnesium ion,
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which then migrates across the electrolyte,
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accepts two electrons from the antimony,
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and then mixes with it to form an alloy.
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The electrons go to work
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in the real world out here,
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powering our devices.
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Now to charge the battery,
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we connect a source of electricity.
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It could be something like a wind farm.
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And then we reverse the current.
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And this forces magnesium to de-alloy
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and return to the upper electrode,
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restoring the initial constitution of the battery.
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And the current passing between the electrodes
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generates enough heat to keep it at temperature.
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It's pretty cool,
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at least in theory.
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But does it really work?
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So what to do next?
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We go to the laboratory.
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Now do I hire seasoned professionals?
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No, I hire a student
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and mentor him,
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teach him how to think about the problem,
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to see it from my perspective
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and then turn him loose.
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This is that student, David Bradwell,
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who, in this image,
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appears to be wondering if this thing will ever work.
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What I didn't tell David at the time
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was I myself wasn't convinced it would work.
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But David's young and he's smart
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and he wants a Ph.D.,
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and he proceeds to build --
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(Laughter)
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He proceeds to build
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the first ever liquid metal battery
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of this chemistry.
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And based on David's initial promising results,
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which were paid
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with seed funds at MIT,
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I was able to attract major research funding
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from the private sector
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and the federal government.
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And that allowed me to expand my group to 20 people,
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a mix of graduate students, post-docs
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and even some undergraduates.
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And I was able to attract really, really good people,
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people who share my passion
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for science and service to society,
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not science and service for career building.
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And if you ask these people
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why they work on liquid metal battery,
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their answer would hearken back
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to President Kennedy's remarks
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at Rice University in 1962
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when he said -- and I'm taking liberties here --
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"We choose to work on grid-level storage,
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not because it is easy,
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but because it is hard."
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(Applause)
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So this is the evolution of the liquid metal battery.
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We start here with our workhorse one watt-hour cell.
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I called it the shotglass.
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We've operated over 400 of these,
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perfecting their performance with a plurality of chemistries --
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not just magnesium and antimony.
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Along the way we scaled up to the 20 watt-hour cell.
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I call it the hockey puck.
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And we got the same remarkable results.
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And then it was onto the saucer.
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That's 200 watt-hours.
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The technology was proving itself
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to be robust and scalable.
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But the pace wasn't fast enough for us.
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So a year and a half ago,
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David and I,
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along with another research staff-member,
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formed a company
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to accelerate the rate of progress
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and the race to manufacture product.
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So today at LMBC,
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we're building cells 16 inches in diameter
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with a capacity of one kilowatt-hour --
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1,000 times the capacity
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of that initial shotglass cell.
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We call that the pizza.
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And then we've got a four kilowatt-hour cell on the horizon.
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It's going to be 36 inches in diameter.
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We call that the bistro table,
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but it's not ready yet for prime-time viewing.
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And one variant of the technology
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has us stacking these bistro tabletops into modules,
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aggregating the modules into a giant battery
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that fits in a 40-foot shipping container
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for placement in the field.
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And this has a nameplate capacity of two megawatt-hours --
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two million watt-hours.
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That's enough energy
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to meet the daily electrical needs
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of 200 American households.
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So here you have it, grid-level storage:
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silent, emissions-free,
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no moving parts,
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remotely controlled,
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designed to the market price point
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without subsidy.
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So what have we learned from all this?
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(Applause)
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So what have we learned from all this?
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Let me share with you
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some of the surprises, the heterodoxies.
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They lie beyond the visible.
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Temperature:
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Conventional wisdom says set it low,
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at or near room temperature,
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and then install a control system to keep it there.
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Avoid thermal runaway.
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Liquid metal battery is designed to operate at elevated temperature
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with minimum regulation.
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Our battery can handle the very high temperature rises
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that come from current surges.
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Scaling: Conventional wisdom says
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reduce cost by producing many.
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Liquid metal battery is designed to reduce cost
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by producing fewer, but they'll be larger.
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And finally, human resources:
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Conventional wisdom says
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hire battery experts,
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seasoned professionals,
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who can draw upon their vast experience and knowledge.
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To develop liquid metal battery,
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I hired students and post-docs and mentored them.
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In a battery,
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I strive to maximize electrical potential;
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when mentoring,
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I strive to maximize human potential.
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So you see,
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the liquid metal battery story
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is more than an account
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of inventing technology,
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it's a blueprint
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for inventing inventors, full-spectrum.
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Donald Sadoway - Materials engineer
Donald Sadoway is working on a battery miracle -- an inexpensive, incredibly efficient, three-layered battery using “liquid metal."

Why you should listen

The problem at the heart of many sustainable-energy systems: How to store power so it can be delivered to the grid all the time, day and night, even when the wind's not blowing and the sun's not shining? At MIT, Donald Sadoway has been working on a grid-size battery system that stores energy using a three-layer liquid-metal core. With help from fans like Bill Gates, Sadoway and two of his students have spun off the Liquid Metals Battery Corporation (LMBC) to bring the battery to market.

More profile about the speaker
Donald Sadoway | Speaker | TED.com

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