Jeanne Pinder: What if all US health care costs were transparent?
جین پیندر: چه میشد اگر تمام هزینههای درمانی شفاف میشد؟
Jeanne Pinder asks why it's so hard to make sense of US healthcare bills -- and suggests what we might do about it. Full bio
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had three bits of minor surgery,
سه عمل جراحی جزئی داشتند،
alone was 2,000 dollars;
به تنهایی ۲۰۰۰ دلار بود؛
I'm like, what's up with that?
عادت دارم بپرسم که چه خبر هست؟
for the expensive one,
برای پر هزینهترین آنها،
for a generic anti-nausea drug
for two dollars and forty-nine cents.
به ازای ۲ دلار و ۴۹ سنت خریداری کنم.
argument with the hospital,
that this was totally fine.
I talked to people, the more I realized:
با مردم صحبت کردم بیشتر پی بردم:
what stuff costs in health care.
مراقبتهای بهداشتی چقدر هزینه دارد.
that procedure or test
رویه (درمان) یا آزمایش
what it's going to cost.
اینها چقدر هزینه دارد.
an "explanation of benefits"
شما به «تفسیر مزایا» میرسید
a little while later.
from the New York Times,
از نیویورک تایمز داوطلب شده بودم
20 years as a journalist.
بیشتر از ۲۰ سال کار کرده بودم.
was to build a company
in health care.
مراقبتهای بهداشتی چقدر هزینه دارد
pitch contest to do just that.
شبیه به «Shark Tank» برنده شدم.
of our gross domestic product last year,
تولید ناخالص داخلی ما را میبلعد.
as a cash payment for simple procedures.
رویههای ساده چه چیزی میپذیرند.
let us tell you that,"
that here in the New York area,
for 200 dollars in Brooklyn
به مبلغ ۲۰۰ دلار در بروکلین بگیرید
just a few miles away.
تنها چند کیلومتر آنطرفتر.
for all the procedures
همهی پروسهها وجود داشت
to tell us their health bills.
صورتحسابهای درمانی شان پرسیدیم.
WNYC here in New York,
WNYC همینجا در نیویورک،
the prices of their mammograms.
هزینههای ماموگرافیشان پرسیدیم.
that it was too personal.
چون این خیلی خصوصی هست.
for people to share their data
کار برای مردم تا اطلاعاتشان را
به اشتراک بگذارند.
and the Waze traffic app for health care.
و برنامه ترافیکی Waze برای بهداشت و درمان
guide to health costs.
برای هزینههای درمان نامیدیم.
grew into partnerships
Miami and other places.
میامی و جاهای دیگر رشد کرد.
about people who were suffering
مردمی که در حال رنج بودند استفاده کردیم
to avoid that "gotcha" bill.
«مسئله ساز»از این رنج جلوگیری کنند.
nearly 4,000 dollars using our data.
با استفاده از اطلاعات ما صرفهجویی کرد.
saved nearly 1,300 dollars
حدودا ۱۳۰۰ دلار صرفهجویی کرد
who are going to in-network hospitals
بیمارستانهای درون شبکهای میروند
خارج شبکهای میگیرند.
that continued to bill a dead man.
صورتحساب به یک فرد مرده ادامه داده بود.
wanted to tell us their prices.
به ما در مورد هزینههایشان بگویند.
them and their friends and families.
دوستان و خانوادهشان را اذیت میکند.
to sell a car to pay a health bill,
مجبور به فروش خودرو شدند، صحبت کردیم
برای تشخصیص بیماری برآیید
but also their patients,
بله و البته با بیمارانشان،
اسم ببریم، مردم.
that had been stalled
public health crisis
با تغییر آهسته بهداشت عمومی
going to help us out anytime soon.
به این زودیها به کمک ما بیاید.
Our health premiums?
حق بیمههای ما چطور؟
of the developed world,
to worry about money.
will not solve every problem.
شفافیت قیمتی همه مسائل را حل نمیکند.
with overtreatment and overdiagnosis.
با درمان بیش از حد و تشخیص بیش از حد.
the cheapest appendectomy
جراحی آپاندیس رو نمیخواهد
about these clear effects,
این اثرات مشخص صحبت میکنیم،
that's actually very simple.
که خیلی ساده هست نگاه میکنیم.
we were going to be arrested.
to talk about medicine and health care
که در مورد دارو و مراقبت سلامتی صحبت کنیم
نه تنها اطلاعات پیدا کردیم
out there in the system
صادقی در سیستم پیدا کردیم
get the care they need
درمانشان کمک کنند
in health care in advance?
را از قبل میدانستیم؟
you Googled for an MRI,
شما MRI رو گوگل میکردید،
where to buy and for how much,
به کجا مراجعه کنید و هزینهاش چقدر است،
you Google for a laser printer?
and money that's spent hiding prices
برای مخفی کردن هزینهها خرج میشود
the $19 test every time
هر دفعه آزمایش ۱۹ دلاری را
you'll never know.
هیچ وقت نخواهید فهمید.
پول زیادی را ذخیره کنید.
and the system itself
که خیلی از ما و خود سیستم
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Jeanne Pinder - JournalistJeanne Pinder asks why it's so hard to make sense of US healthcare bills -- and suggests what we might do about it.
Why you should listen
Lifelong journalist Jeanne Pinder is founder and CEO of ClearHealthCosts, a digital media startup that demands price transparency from the US healthcare system. After taking a buyout from the New York Times, where she worked for more than 20 years, she won a Shark Tank-style competition with her ClearHealthCosts pitch and hasn't looked back.
Since its founding in 2011, ClearHealthCosts has won a slew of journalism grants and prizes and has reported on and crowdsourced health price data in partnership with prestigious newsrooms in New Orleans, Philadelphia, Miami, San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York and elsewhere. This work has won numerous journalism prizes -- a national Edward R. Murrow award, a Society for Professional Journalists public service gold medal and a spot as a finalist for a Peabody Award, among others.
Pinder and the company have won grants from the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, the International Women's Media Foundation, the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia University, the Tow-Knight Center for Entrepreneurial Journalism at the CUNY Graduate School of Journalism and others.
Previously, in her native Iowa, Pinder worked at The Des Moines Register and the Grinnell Herald-Register, a twice-weekly newspaper that her grandfather bought in 1944.
Pinder speaks fluent but rusty Russian. In a previous lifetime, she lived in what was then the Soviet Union, a place almost as mysterious as the US healthcare marketplace.
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