Douglas Rushkoff: How to be "Team Human" in the digital future
더글라스 러쉬코프: 디지털 미래에 "인간의 편"이 되는 법
Douglas Rushkoff promotes human autonomy in the digital age. Full bio
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a couple of hundred tech executives.
모여있을 거라 생각했죠.
waiting to go on,
they brought five men into the green room
사람 5명을 방으로 데려와
with these really binary questions,
제게 퍼붓기 시작했어요.
taking bets or what.
their real question of concern.
were asking a media theorist for advice
최후의 그날을 대비한 벙커를
on the single question:
이 얘기에만 매달렸어요.
of my security staff
담당하는 직원들을
the thermonuclear war
세상에 종말을 가져 올
that ends the world as we know it,
또는 사회 불안 등
makes their money obsolete.
휴지조각이 될 때를 말하죠.
most powerful men in the world,
힘을 가진 이들이
powerless to influence the future.
너무나 무능하다는 거요.
for the inevitable catastrophe
그들이 생각하는 최선책이
to get away from the rest of us.
나머지 사람들로부터 벗어나려는 거죠.
of the digital economy.
선도하는 자들입니다.
잠재력에 관한 것입니다.
from chaos math and quantum physics
and the Gaia hypothesis, right?
이르기까지 다양하죠.
could create any future we could imagine.
어떤 미래든 가능하다고 믿었어요.
became stock futures.
주식 선물로 전락하고 맙니다.
of the digital age
NASDAQ stock exchange.
나스닥 증권 거래소에 퍼부었죠.
a tsunami was coming.
엄청난 변화가 밀려오고 있고
the best scenario-planners and futurists
고용한 투자자들만이
we create together in the present
만들어 가는 것이 아닌
winner-takes-all competition.
상황으로 바뀌어 버렸죠.
about the future,
이렇게 치열해 진다면
for our creativity.
인간의 창의성이 아닌
to make predictions.
예측이 가능하니까요.
that creates noise.
잡음으로 들릴 거에요.
repressed novelty,
우리에게 가장
in new, interesting ways?
사람들을 이어주고 있을까요?
to predict our future behavior.
예측하는데 주로 쓰일 뿐이죠.
to influence our future behavior
영향을 주기도 하는데
with our statistical profiles.
행동하게 하려는 겁니다.
does it like people?
사람들에게 신경쓸까요?
what are you supposed to do?
가지고 뭘 합니까?
they want money, they want meaning.
보람 등을 요구하니까
form any rapport or solidarity.
도움을 주지 않습니다.
on the ride hailing app
about their working conditions
노조를 결성하는
to establish real rapport.
are opening to really take you in.
눈이 커지는 모습은 볼 수 없잖아요.
to establish rapport
of thousands of years of evolution,
자리를 잡은 것인데
is syncing up with yours.
알 수 가 없어요.
the oxytocin never goes through your body,
몸에 옥시토신도 나오지 않아
of bonding with the other human being.
전혀 느끼지 못합니다.
but did they really,
for that lack of fidelity.
신뢰할 수 없는 기술이 아닌
and the digital initiatives that we have
여러 기술과 디지털 정책들은
have a great humanized economy? No.
위한 걸까요? 아니죠.
trust between users,
신용을 이끌어 내는게 아니라
substitutes for trust in a new,
새로운 방식일 뿐이에요.
we love education,
또 우리들이 좋아하니까
to get jobs in the digital future,
일하는데 필요할테니
about getting jobs?
취업이 되버린 걸까요?
for a job well done.
대한 보상이었어요.
who would work in the coal mines all day,
집에 오는 광부들이
and they should have the dignity
지켜야 한다는 거였어요.
and understand it.
to participate in democracy.
지성은 있어야 한다는 거였죠.
what are we really doing?
결국 우리가 하고 있는 일은 뭘까요?
of training their workers.
표면화하게 할 뿐입니다.
is the humane technology movement.
인도적 기술의 바람이죠.
the former guys who used to take
Las Vegas slot machines
알고리즘을 이용해
so that we get addicted.
중독시키는데 사용했어요.
technology more humane.
기술에 접근하고 있죠.
"humane technology,"
chickens or something.
as possible to them,
사육하겠다는 거죠.
technologies be as humane as possible,
기술에 접근하고 있다고 주장하지만
and extract enough money from us
충분히 긁어가
for their part, they're just thinking,
so I can insulate myself
내 스스로를 지켜야지.
by earning money in this way."
세상으로부터 말이야."
they slap on their faces
가상현실 장비들을 이용해
and pollution that was caused
노예화와 환경오염은
of the very device.
Thomas Jefferson's dumbwaiter.
'덤웨이터'가 생각나네요.
that he made the dumbwaiter
all that labor of carrying the food
노예들의 수고를
for the people to eat.
it wasn't for the slaves,
and his dinner guests,
음식을 내오는 노예들을
bringing the food up.
of a "Start Trek" replicator.
'레플리케이터' 처럼요.
and technology is the solution.
기술이 그 해결책이어야 하는데
to optimize human beings for the market
이용하기 위해 기술을 사용해선 안되고
for the human future.
기술을 최적화해야죠.
to make these days,
신경쓰지 않으니까요.
of an environmentalist just the other day,
이에 관한 대화를 나눴는데
defending humans?
"왜 인간 편을 드세요?
They deserve to go extinct."
멸종돼도 할말 없죠."
인간들을 혐오합니다.
are better and nicer than people.
사람보다 더 낫고 착하게 나오잖아요.
what is every zombie show about?
공통적인게 뭐가 있죠?
at some zombie going by,
좀비가 지나가는 걸 바라봅니다.
and you see the person's face,
그 사람의 표정이 보이면
between that zombie and me?
도대체 뭐야?
distinguishing ourselves from zombies,
어려움을 겪고 있다면
on the transhumanists.
말도 마세요.
and he's going on about the singularity.
인공지능의 '특이점'에 대해 말했죠,
when computers are smarter than people.
더 똑똑해 질 때가 옵니다.
for people at that point
사람들이 할 수 있는 건
to our successor
your consciousness to a silicon chip.
실리콘 칩에 의식을 저장해 두고
"아니요, 인간은 특별한 존재죠.
we understand paradox,
모순을 이해하고,
we're weird, we're quirky.
in the digital future."
인간이 설 자리는 있을 거에요."
"에이, 러쉬코프 씨,
because you're a human."
그렇게 말할 뿐이예요."
of the digital age.
with each other,
network of roots and mushrooms
조직을 통해 서로 연결되어
and pass nutrients back and forth.
are the most evolved species,
ways of collaborating and communicating.
협력하고 소통하기 때문입니다.
who talked about the digital future
대해 떠들고 다녔단 사실이죠.
experienced anything digital.
모르는 사람들한테요.
before digital technology.
알고 있는 것 같아요.
or rejecting the technological.
거부하려는게 아니라
that we're in danger of leaving behind
그 진정한 가치를 되찾고
infrastructure for the future.
깊이 각인시켜야 한다는 거죠.
to see people as adversaries,
가르치는게 아니라
our adversaries as people.
가르치면 되겠죠.
that doesn't favor a platform monopoly
경제를 창조해
out of people and places,
of value through a community
platform cooperatives
as wide as possible.
and novelty in the name of prediction
창의성과 참신함을 억제하지 않고
creativity and novelty,
with some of the solutions
out of the mess that we're in.
우리 스스로를 구해내야겠죠.
enough money to insulate ourselves
우리가 만들고 있는 세상으로부터
making the world a place
도망칠 필요가 없는
the need to escape from.
there is only one thing going on here.
여기 하나 밖에 없잖아요.
at least you won't be alone.
적어도 혼자는 아니잖아요.
that we always wanted.
미래를 만듭시다.
who wanted to know
security force after the apocalypse,
관리할지 물었던 사람들이요.
with love and respect right now.
그들을 대하시죠.
an apocalypse to worry about."
오지 않을 수도 있으니까요."
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Douglas Rushkoff - Media theorist, authorDouglas Rushkoff promotes human autonomy in the digital age.
Why you should listen
Douglas Rushkoff coined such expressions as "viral media," "digital natives" and "social currency," and advises governments, communities and businesses on the impact of technology on society's future. Named one of "the world’s ten most influential thinkers" by MIT, Rushkoff won the Marshal McLuhan Award for media writing and the Neil Postman award for Public Intellectual Activity.
Rushkoff hosts the Team Human podcast, made four PBS Frontline documentaries including Generation Like and The Merchants of Cool, and wrote many bestselling books including Team Human, Present Shock, Program or Be Programmed and Throwing Rocks at the Google Bus. He founded the Laboratory for Digital Humanism at CUNY/Queens College, where he is professor of media theory and digital economics.
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