ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Zainab Salbi - Activist and social entrepreneur
Iraqi-born Zainab Salbi founded and runs Women for Women International, and has dedicated her life to helping women in war-torn regions rebuild their lives and communities.

Why you should listen

In her memoir Hidden in Plain Sight: Growing Up in the Shadow of Saddam, Zainab Salbi writes of being raised in Saddam Hussein's inner circle -- her father was Saddam's personal pilot. She left Iraq for an arranged marriage in the US, which quickly became another form of tyranny. But in 1993, when she heard of the rape and concentration camps in Bosnia, she realized she could no longer remain passive. Salbi founded Women for Women International to help women who are victims of war in every way -- from those who've been physically harmed to those who suffer from the poverty that war and strife inevitably bring. WFWI provides economic and emotional aid, job-skills training, and rights education, empowering women to stop the cycle of violence and create social change.

In her latest book, The Other Side of War, she shares personal stories of women's experience in conflict. As she writes: "War is not a computer-generated missile striking a digital map. War is the color of earth as it explodes in our faces, the sound of child pleading, the smell of smoke and fear. Women survivors of war are not the single image portrayed on the television screen, but the glue that holds families and countries together. Perhaps by understanding women, and the other side of war ... we will have more humility in our discussions of wars... perhaps it is time to listen to women's side of history."

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TEDGlobal 2010

Zainab Salbi: Women, wartime and the dream of peace

Zainab Salbi: 女性,战争与和平梦想

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通常在战争中,我们只看到前线士兵和战斗的故事。在TEDGlobal 2010里,Zainab Salbi 讲述“后方”振奋人心的女人们的故事, 这些女人在战火中仍努力维持正常的生活。她呼吁在战争结束时,女性也应成为谈判桌上的一份子。
- Activist and social entrepreneur
Iraqi-born Zainab Salbi founded and runs Women for Women International, and has dedicated her life to helping women in war-torn regions rebuild their lives and communities. Full bio

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I woke醒来 up in the middle中间 of the night
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半夜里一声巨大的爆炸声
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with the sound声音 of heavy explosion爆炸.
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把我从睡梦中惊醒
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It was deep at night.
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当时已经很晚了
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I do not remember记得 what time it was.
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我不记得确切的时间
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I just remember记得 the sound声音
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只记得那声音
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was so heavy
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是如此巨大
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and so very shocking触目惊心.
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如此吓人
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Everything in my room房间 was shaking发抖 --
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我屋里的每样东西都在晃动
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my heart, my windows视窗,
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我的心,我的窗户
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my bed, everything.
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我的床,全都在晃动
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I looked看着 out the windows视窗
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我望向窗外
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and I saw a full充分 half-circle半圈
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看到一个完整的
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of explosion爆炸.
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半圆形火球
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I thought it was just like the movies电影,
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我心想这简直就是电影
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but the movies电影 had not conveyed输送 them
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可电影却无法准确表现
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in the powerful强大 image图片 that I was seeing眼看
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我所看到的震慑人心的画面
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full充分 of bright red
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那鲜亮的红色
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and orange橙子 and gray灰色,
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橙色和灰色
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and a full充分 circle of explosion爆炸.
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以及爆炸产生的的一团火球
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And I kept不停 on staring凝视 at it
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我目不转睛地盯着
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until直到 it disappeared消失.
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直到那团火球消失
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I went back to my bed,
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然后我回到床上
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and I prayed祈祷,
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开始祷告
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and I secretly偷偷 thanked感谢 God
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我偷偷地感谢上帝
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that that missile导弹
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只因那枚导弹
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did not land土地 on my family's家庭的 home,
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没有打中我家
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that it did not kill my family家庭 that night.
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没有杀死我的家人
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Thirty三十 years年份 have passed通过,
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三十年过去了
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and I still feel guilty有罪 about that prayer祷告,
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我仍对那次的祷告感到愧疚
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for the next下一个 day, I learned学到了 that that missile导弹
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因为第二天我才知道,那枚导弹
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landed登陆 on my brother's兄弟 friend's朋友的 home
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打中了我哥哥的朋友家
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and killed杀害 him
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并且杀死了
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and his father父亲,
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他和他的父亲
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but did not kill his mother母亲 or his sister妹妹.
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他的母亲和妹妹则逃过一劫
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His mother母亲 showed显示 up the next下一个 week
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一个礼拜后
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at my brother's兄弟 classroom课堂
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他的母亲去到我哥哥的教室
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and begged seven-year-old七十岁 kids孩子
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恳求那些七岁大的孩子
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to share分享 with her any picture图片 they may可能 have
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能够把他们手中有她儿子
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of her son儿子,
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的照片统统给她
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for she had lost丢失 everything.
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因为她失去了一切
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This is not a story故事
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这个故事不是关于
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of a nameless无名 survivor幸存者 of war战争,
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某个在战争中存活下来的无名者
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and nameless无名 refugees难民,
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也不是关于
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whose谁的 stereotypical定型 images图片 we see in our newspapers报纸
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我们常在报纸或电视中看到的
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and our TV电视
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那些无名的难民
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with tattered破烂 clothes衣服,
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他们衣不蔽体
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dirty face面对, scared害怕 eyes眼睛.
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蓬头垢面,眼神惊恐
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This is not a story故事 of a nameless无名 someone有人
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这也不是某些我们不知道姓名的人的故事
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who lived生活 in some war战争,
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那些生活在某场战争中
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who we do not know their hopes希望, their dreams,
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我们不知道他们的希望与梦想
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their accomplishments成就, their families家庭,
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不清楚他们的成就与家庭
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their beliefs信仰, their values.
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也不了解他们的信仰和价值观
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This is my story故事.
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这是我的故事
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I was that girl女孩.
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我就是那个女孩
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I am another另一个 image图片 and vision视力
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我就是另一个有关战争存活者的
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of another另一个 survivor幸存者 of war战争.
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鲜活的描绘
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I am that refugee难民,
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我就是那个难民
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and I am that girl女孩.
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我就是那个女孩
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You see,
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你现在知道
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I grew成长 up in war-torn兵连祸结 Iraq伊拉克,
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我在战争中的伊拉克成长
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and I believe that there are two sides双方 of wars战争
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我相信战争有不同的两面
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and we've我们已经 only seen看到
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而我们只看到
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one side of it.
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其中的一面
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We only talk about
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我们只谈论
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one side of it.
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其中的一面
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But there's another另一个 side
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但战争还有另一面
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that I have witnessed目击
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这一面我亲眼见过
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as someone有人 who lived生活 in it
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作为一个曾经生活在其中的人
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and someone有人 who ended结束 up working加工 in it.
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一个最终从事这方面工作的人
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I grew成长 up with the colors颜色 of war战争 --
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我在战争的颜色中成长
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the red colors颜色 of fire and blood血液,
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红色的血与火
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the brown棕色 tones of earth地球
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棕色的土地
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as it explodes爆炸
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爆炸
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in our faces面孔
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就在我面前
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and the piercing冲孔 silver
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还有银色的碎片
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of an exploded爆炸 missile导弹,
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导弹爆炸时飞散而来
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so bright
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那么明亮
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that nothing can protect保护 your eyes眼睛 from it.
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没有东西可以保护你的眼睛
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I grew成长 up
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我成长于
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with the sounds声音 of war战争 --
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战争的声音中
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the staccato断奏 sounds声音 of gunfire炮火,
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那些断断续续的枪火声
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the wrenching痛苦 booms繁荣 of explosions爆炸,
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折磨人的爆炸声
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ominous不祥的 drones无人驾驶飞机 of jets喷气机 flying飞行 overhead高架
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飞机过顶时的轰隆声
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and the wailing warning警告 sounds声音
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还有警笛发出的
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of sirens警报器.
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哀号
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These are the sounds声音 you would expect期望,
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这些都是你能想到的声音
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but they are also the sounds声音
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还有一些声音
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of dissonant不搭调 concerts音乐会 of a flock of birds鸟类
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比如说一群鸟在深夜
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screeching尖叫 in the night,
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发出不和谐的尖叫
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the high-pitched高亢 honest诚实 cries哭声
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孩子们发出的
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of children孩子
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高亢的哭声
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and the thunderous雷鸣,
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还有如雷般
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unbearable不堪忍受
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难以忍受的
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silence安静.
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寂静
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"War战争," a friend朋友 of mine said,
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“战争”,我的一个朋友曾经说过
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"is not about sound声音 at all.
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“根本不是有声的
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It is actually其实 about silence安静,
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它其实是一种沉默
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the silence安静 of humanity人性."
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人性的沉默”
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I have since以来 left Iraq伊拉克
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从那以后我离开了伊拉克
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and founded成立 a group called Women妇女 for Women妇女 International国际
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成立了一个叫做国际妇女互助会(Women for Women International)的组织
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that ends结束 up working加工
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并最终和一群
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with women妇女 survivors幸存者 of wars战争.
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战争中存活下来的女性们一起工作
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In my travels旅行 and in my work,
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在我的旅途和工作中
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from Congo刚果 to Afghanistan阿富汗,
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从刚果到阿富汗
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from Sudan苏丹 to Rwanda卢旺达,
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从苏丹到卢旺达
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I have learned学到了 not only
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我发现
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that the colors颜色 and the sounds声音 of war战争 are the same相同,
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不仅战争的颜色和声音是相同的
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but the fears恐惧 of war战争 are the same相同.
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对战争的恐惧也是一样的
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You know, there is a fear恐惧 of dying垂死,
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对死亡的恐惧是众所周知的
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and do not believe any movie电影 character字符
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不要相信那些
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where the hero英雄 is not afraid害怕.
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电影中对死亡无所畏惧的英雄
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It is very scary害怕
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非常的恐怖
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to go through通过 that feeling感觉
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经历那种
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of "I am about to die"
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“我要死了”
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or "I could die in this explosion爆炸."
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或者“我可能会在爆炸中死亡”的感觉
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But there's also the fear恐惧
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但是还有一种
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of losing失去 loved喜爱 ones那些,
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对于失去至亲的恐惧
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and I think that's even worse更差.
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在我看来更为可怕
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It's too painful痛苦. You don't want to think about it.
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光是想想就能让你觉得痛苦不堪
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But I think the worst最差 kind of fear恐惧 is the fear恐惧 --
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但我认为最大的恐惧
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as Samia萨米亚, a Bosnian波斯尼亚 woman女人, once一旦 told me,
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正如一个经历了四年萨拉热窝围城的
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who survived幸存 the four-years四年 besiege围攻 of Sarajevo萨拉热窝;
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波斯尼亚女人Samia曾对我说的那样
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she said, "The fear恐惧
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她说,“是害怕
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of losing失去
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失去
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the 'I''一世' in me,
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内在的自我
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the fear恐惧 of losing失去
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害怕失去
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the 'I''一世' in me."
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内在的自我”
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That's what my mother母亲 in Iraq伊拉克
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我在伊拉克的母亲
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used to tell me.
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也曾经这么说过
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It's like dying垂死 from inside-out反了.
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这好像从内心开始死去一样
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A Palestinian巴勒斯坦的 woman女人 once一旦 told me,
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一个巴勒斯但女人曾跟我说
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"It is not about the fear恐惧 of one death死亡,"
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”这不是对一次死亡的恐惧
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she said, "sometimes有时 I feel
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我有时甚至觉得
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I die 10 times in one day,"
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我一天死了十次。“
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as she was describing说明 the marches游行 of soldiers士兵
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她同时跟我描述士兵列队前进
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and the sounds声音 of their bullets子弹.
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还有他们的子弹的声音
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She said, "But it's not fair公平,
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她继续说道,”但不公平
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because there is only one life,
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因为生命只有一次
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and there should only be one death死亡."
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死亡也应该只有一次。”
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We have been only seeing眼看
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我们只看到
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one side of war战争.
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战争的一面
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We have only been discussing讨论 and consumed消费
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我们只探讨
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with high-level高水平 preoccupations当务之急
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和高度关注
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over troop部队 levels水平, drawdown缩编 timelines时间线,
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作战计划和时间线的制定
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surges and sting operations操作,
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关注如何进攻和打击
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when we should be examining检查 the details细节
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而我们却更应该去研究
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of where the social社会 fabric
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从社会被撕裂得
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has been most torn撕裂,
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最严重的地方开始
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where the community社区 has improvised即兴
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研究人们是如何应变
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and survived幸存
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以及生存
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and shown显示 acts行为 of resilience弹性
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同时表现出
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and amazing惊人 courage勇气
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让生活继续的韧性
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just to keep life going.
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和惊人的勇气
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We have been so consumed消费
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我们听到了太多
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with seemingly似乎 objective目的 discussions讨论
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表面上很客观的讨论和论调
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of politics政治, tactics策略,
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无论是关于政治、战术
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weapons武器, dollars美元
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武器、美元
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and casualties伤亡.
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还是伤亡人数
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This is the language语言
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这些都是贫乏
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of sterility不育症.
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无力的语言
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How casually胡乱
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我们竟用
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we treat对待 casualties伤亡
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如此漫不经心的口吻
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in the context上下文 of this topic话题.
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谈论战争伤害
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This is where we conceive构想 of rape强奸 and casualties伤亡
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好像我们觉得强奸和伤亡
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as inevitabilities必然性.
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都是不可避免的一样
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Eighty八十 percent百分 of refugees难民 around the world世界
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世界上有80%的难民
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are women妇女 and children孩子. Oh.
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是女人和孩童
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Ninety九十 percent百分 of modern现代 war战争 casualties伤亡
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现代战争中
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are civilians老百姓.
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平民占了90%的伤亡
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Seventy-five七十五 percent百分 of them are women妇女 and children孩子.
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其中又有75%是妇女和孩童
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How interesting有趣.
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真有意思啊
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Oh, half a million百万 women妇女 in Rwanda卢旺达
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在卢旺达,有50万女人
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get raped强奸 in 100 days.
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在100天内被强奸
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Or, as we speak说话 now,
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就在此刻
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hundreds数以百计 of thousands数千 of Congolese刚果 women妇女
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成百上千的刚果女人
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are getting得到 raped强奸 and mutilated肢解.
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被强奸和凌虐
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How interesting有趣.
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in the event事件 that this particular特定 drone无人驾驶飞机 attack攻击
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on your way out and up
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who made制作 sure with every一切 siren警笛, with every一切 raid袭击,
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with every一切 cut off-of关闭的 electricity电力,
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she played发挥 puppet木偶 shows节目 for my brothers兄弟 and I,
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of the sounds声音 of explosions爆炸.
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a music音乐 teacher老师,
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a piano钢琴 teacher老师, in Sarajevo萨拉热窝,
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在萨拉热窝教钢琴
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who made制作 sure
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that she kept不停 the music音乐 school学校 open打开
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every一切 single day
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in the four years年份 of besiege围攻 in Sarajevo萨拉热窝
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and walked to that school学校,
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despite尽管 the snipers狙击手 shooting射击
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at that school学校 and at her,
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and kept不停 the piano钢琴, the violin小提琴, the cello大提琴
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playing播放 the whole整个 duration持续时间 of the war战争,
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with students学生们 wearing穿着 their gloves手套 and hats帽子 and coats大衣.
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带着手套、帽子,穿着大衣来弹奏。
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That was her fight斗争.
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That was her resistance抵抗性.
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a Palestinian巴勒斯坦的 woman女人 in Gaza加沙
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who, the minute分钟 there was a cease-fire停战 in the last year's年份 war战争,
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she left out of home,
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collected all the flour面粉
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and baked烘烤的 as much bread面包 for every一切 neighbor邻居 to have,
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in case案件 there is no cease-fire停战 the day after.
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the stories故事 of Violet紫色,
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who, despite尽管 surviving幸存 genocide种族灭绝 in the church教会 massacre屠杀,
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she kept不停 on going on,
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burying掩埋 bodies身体, cleaning清洁的 homes家园, cleaning清洁的 the streets街道.
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埋葬尸体,清理房屋和街道
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who are literally按照字面 keeping保持 life going
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in the midst中间 of wars战争.
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Do you know --
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do you know that people fall秋季 in love in war战争
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and go to school学校
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and go to factories工厂 and hospitals医院
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and get divorced离婚 and go dancing跳舞 and go playing播放
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离婚、跳舞、游乐
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and live生活 life going?
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are women妇女.
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There are two sides双方 of war战争.
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There is a side that fights打架,
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and there is a side that keeps保持 the schools学校
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and the factories工厂 and the hospitals医院 open打开.
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There is a side that is focused重点 on winning胜利 battles战斗,
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一面专注于如何赢得战斗
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and there is a side that is focused重点
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on winning胜利 life.
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如何赢得生活
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There is a side that leads引线 the front-line一线 discussion讨论,
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and there is a side
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that leads引线 the back-line后卫线 discussion讨论.
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There is a side that thinks
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that peace和平 is the end结束 of fighting战斗,
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和平就是战争的结束
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and there is a side that thinks
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that peace和平 is the arrival到达
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of schools学校 and jobs工作.
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安全抵达学校和工作地点
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There is a side
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that is led by men男人,
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and there is a side
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that is led by women妇女.
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则被女人们掌控
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And in order订购 for us to understand理解
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how do we build建立 lasting持久 peace和平,
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we must必须 understand理解 war战争 and peace和平
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我们必须从两方面
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from both sides双方.
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来理解战争与和平
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We must必须 have a full充分 picture图片
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我们必须对它
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of what that means手段.
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有一个全局的认识
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In order订购 for us to understand理解
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what actually其实 peace和平 means手段,
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到底什么才是和平
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we need to understand理解,
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我们需要明白的
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as one Sudanese苏丹人 woman女人 once一旦 told me,
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"Peace和平 is the fact事实 that my toenails脚趾甲
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“和平就是我的脚趾甲
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are growing生长 back again."
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能重新长出来。”
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She grew成长 up in Sudan苏丹, in Southern南部的 Sudan苏丹,
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她在苏丹南部长大
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for 20 years年份 of war战争,
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长达20年的战争
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where it killed杀害 one million百万 people
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造成一百万人的死亡
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and displaced流离失所 five million百万 refugees难民.
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五百万难民的流离失所
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Many许多 women妇女 were taken采取 as slaves奴隶
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by rebels叛军 and soldiers士兵,
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as sexual有性 slaves奴隶 who were forced被迫 also
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她们被迫成为性奴
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to carry携带 the ammunition弹药 and the water
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同时还必须为士兵
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and the food餐饮 for the soldiers士兵.
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运送弹药、水和食物
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So that woman女人 walked for 20 years年份,
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因此那个女人为了不被再次绑架
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so she would not be kidnapped绑架 again.
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20年间一直在四处逃难
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And only when there was some sort分类 of peace和平,
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只有当和平开始到来时
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her toenails脚趾甲 grew成长 back again.
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她的脚趾甲才能重新长出来
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We need to understand理解 peace和平
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我们需要从一个脚趾甲的角度
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from a toenail's趾甲的 perspective透视.
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来理解和平的意义
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We need to understand理解
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我们需要明白
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that we cannot不能 actually其实 have negotiations谈判
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如果女人不能完全参与
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of ending结尾 of wars战争 or peace和平
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到谈判桌上
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without fully充分 including包含 women妇女
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我们实际上不可能有
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at the negotiating谈判 table.
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关于停战或和平的真正谈判
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I find it amazing惊人
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我惊讶地发现
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that the only group of people
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在战争中,唯一一组
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who are not fighting战斗 and not killing谋杀
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没有战斗、没有杀戮
12:51
and not pillaging抢劫 and not burning燃烧 and not raping强奸,
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没有掠夺、没有烧杀、没有强奸的人
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and the group of people who are mostly大多 --
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这组在战火中最努力
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though虽然 not exclusively --
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虽然不是所有的人
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who are keeping保持 life going in the midst中间 of war战争,
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让生活在战火中继续的人
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are not included包括 in the negotiating谈判 table.
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却没有被接纳到谈判桌上
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And I do argue争论 that women妇女 lead the back-line后卫线 discussion讨论,
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我确实认为女人应领导关于后方的讨论
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but there are also men男人
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但同时也有男人
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who are excluded排除 from that discussion讨论.
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被排除在这个讨论之外
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The doctors医生 who are not fighting战斗,
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那些没有参与战斗的医生
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the artists艺术家, the students学生们, the men男人 who refuse垃圾 to pick up the guns枪炮,
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那些艺术家、学生、拒绝拿起枪支的人
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they are, too, excluded排除
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他们也被排除在
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from the negotiating谈判 tables.
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谈判桌外
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There is no way we can talk about a lasting持久 peace和平,
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我们不可能谈论长久的和平
13:26
building建造 of democracy民主, sustainable可持续发展 economies经济,
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民主建设、经济的可持续发展
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any kind of stabilities稳定性,
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以及任何形式的稳定
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if we do not fully充分 include包括 women妇女
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如果我们没有将女人
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at the negotiating谈判 table.
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完全包含进谈判桌上
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Not one, but 50 percent百分.
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不仅仅是一个,而是一半
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There is no way we can talk about the building建造 of stability稳定性
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我们无法讨论如何建立稳定的局势
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if we don't start开始 investing投资
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如果我们不开始
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in women妇女 and girls女孩.
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在女人和女孩身上投资
13:48
Did you know
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你知道
13:50
that one year
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每年
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of the world's世界 military军事 spending开支
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全世界的军费开支
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equals等于 700 years年份
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等于七百年的
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of the U.N. budget预算
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联合国预算
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and equals等于 2,928 years年份
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也等于2928年的
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of the U.N. budget预算 allocated分配 for women妇女?
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联合国的女性预算?
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If we just reverse相反
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如果我们将那笔开支
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that distribution分配 of funds资金,
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用于上述两个方面
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perhaps也许 we could have
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那么或许我们能够拥有
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a better lasting持久 peace和平 in this world世界.
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更为长久美好的和平
14:17
And last, but not least最小,
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最后同样重要的一点就是
14:19
we need to invest投资 in peace和平 and women妇女,
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我们需要在和平和女人身上投资
14:22
not only because it is the right thing to do,
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不仅因为这是一件正确的事情
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not only because it is the right thing to do,
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不仅因为这是为了建立可持续的和平
14:28
for all of us to build建立 sustainable可持续发展 and lasting持久 peace和平 today今天,
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而做的正确的事情
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but it is for the future未来.
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这也是为了将来
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A Congolese刚果 woman女人,
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一个刚果女人
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who was telling告诉 me about
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曾告诉我
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how her children孩子 saw their father父亲 killed杀害 in front面前 of them
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她的孩子们是如何亲眼看着自己的父亲被杀害
14:41
and saw her raped强奸 in front面前 of them
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母亲在自己面前被强奸
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and mutilated肢解 in front面前 of them,
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在自己面前被凌虐
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and her children孩子 saw their nine-year-old九十岁 sibling兄弟
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孩子们也看着他们那九岁的兄弟
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killed杀害 in front面前 of them,
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在自己面前被杀害
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how they're doing okay right now.
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他们现在怎能过得好呢?
14:54
She got into Women妇女 for Women妇女 International's国际的 program程序.
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她加入了国际妇女互助会(Women for Women International)
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She got a support支持 network网络.
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她得到支援
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She learned学到了 about her rights权利.
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她知道她的权利
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We taught her vocational专业 and business商业 skills技能. We helped帮助 her get a job工作.
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我们教她职业和商业技巧,帮她找到一份工作
15:03
She was earning盈利 450 dollars美元. She was doing okay.
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她能挣450美元,过得不错
15:06
She was sending发出 them to school学校. Have a new home.
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她把孩子们送到新学校,有了一个新家
15:08
She said, "But what I worry担心 about the most
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她说:“我最担心的
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is not any of that.
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并不是这些
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I worry担心 that my children孩子
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我担心我的孩子们
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have hate讨厌 in their hearts心中,
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心中充满仇恨
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and when they want to grow增长 up, they want to fight斗争 again
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当他们长大时,会想要找
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the killers杀手 of their father父亲 and their brother哥哥."
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杀害他们父亲和兄弟的人报仇。”
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We need to invest投资 in women妇女,
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我们需要在一个女人身上投资
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because that's our only chance机会
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因为这是我们的唯一希望
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to ensure确保 that there is no more war战争
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能保证将来
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in the future未来.
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不再有战争
15:35
That mother母亲 has a better chance机会 to heal愈合 her children孩子
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那位母亲比任何和平协议
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than any peace和平 agreement协议 can do.
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都能更有效地治愈她的孩子们
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Are there good news新闻? Of course课程, there are good news新闻. There are lots of good news新闻.
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有这方面的好消息吗?有,而且很多
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To start开始 with, these women妇女 that I told you about
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首先,刚刚我提到的那些女人
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are dancing跳舞 and singing唱歌 every一切 single day,
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每天都跳舞唱歌
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and if they can,
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如果她们能做到
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who are we not to dance舞蹈?
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我们为什么不能呢?
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That girl女孩 that I told you about
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我之前提到的那个女孩
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ended结束 up starting开始 Women妇女 for Women妇女 International国际 Group
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最后成立了国际妇女互助会(Women for Women International Group)
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that impacted影响 one million百万 people, sent发送 80 million百万 dollars美元,
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这影响了一百万人,募集到八千万美元
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and I started开始 this from zero,
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而这一切都是从零开始
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nothing, nada纳达, [unclear不明].
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什么都没有
16:08
(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
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They are women妇女 who are standing常设 on their feet
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这些女人无论情况多么糟糕
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in spite尽管 of their circumstances情况,
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都依靠自己的力量
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not because of it.
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坚强地生存下来
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Think of how the world世界 can be a much better place地点
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想想看,这个世界会变得更美好
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if, for a change更改,
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如果能有这么一个改变
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we have a better equality平等,
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让我们能更加平等
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we have equality平等,
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让我们平等
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we have a representation表示
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我们有自己的代表
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and we understand理解 war战争,
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我们理解战争
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both from the front-line一线
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不仅从前线
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and the back-line后卫线 discussion讨论.
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还有后方的讨论
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Rumi鲁米, a 13th-centuryTH-世纪 Sufi苏菲 poet诗人,
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鲁米,一位13世纪的苏菲派诗人
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says, "Out beyond the worlds世界
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曾说道
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of right-doings右键行为 and wrong-doings错误做法,
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“在对与错的世界之外
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there is a field领域.
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有一片天地
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I will meet遇到 you there.
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你我将会相遇
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When the soul灵魂 lies down in that grass,
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将心灵置于那片草地之上
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the world世界 is too full充分
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世界是如此充实
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to talk about.
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让人无法描述
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Ideas思路, language语言,
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思想,语言
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even the phrase短语 'each'每 other'其他'
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甚至“互相”这个词组
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no longer makes品牌 any sense."
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已经毫无意义。”
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I humbly虚心 add -- humbly虚心 add --
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我卑微地增改少许:
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that out beyond
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在超越
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the worlds世界 of war战争 and peace和平,
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战争与和平的世界之外
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there is a field领域,
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有一片天地
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and there are many许多 women妇女 and men男人
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有许多女人和男人
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[who] are meeting会议 there.
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在那里相遇
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Let us make this field领域 a much bigger place地点.
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让我们将这片天地变得更大
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Let us all meet遇到 in that field领域.
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让我们都在那里相遇
17:26
Thank you.
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谢谢
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(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
Translated by Andrea Feng
Reviewed by Xinli Geng

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Zainab Salbi - Activist and social entrepreneur
Iraqi-born Zainab Salbi founded and runs Women for Women International, and has dedicated her life to helping women in war-torn regions rebuild their lives and communities.

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In her memoir Hidden in Plain Sight: Growing Up in the Shadow of Saddam, Zainab Salbi writes of being raised in Saddam Hussein's inner circle -- her father was Saddam's personal pilot. She left Iraq for an arranged marriage in the US, which quickly became another form of tyranny. But in 1993, when she heard of the rape and concentration camps in Bosnia, she realized she could no longer remain passive. Salbi founded Women for Women International to help women who are victims of war in every way -- from those who've been physically harmed to those who suffer from the poverty that war and strife inevitably bring. WFWI provides economic and emotional aid, job-skills training, and rights education, empowering women to stop the cycle of violence and create social change.

In her latest book, The Other Side of War, she shares personal stories of women's experience in conflict. As she writes: "War is not a computer-generated missile striking a digital map. War is the color of earth as it explodes in our faces, the sound of child pleading, the smell of smoke and fear. Women survivors of war are not the single image portrayed on the television screen, but the glue that holds families and countries together. Perhaps by understanding women, and the other side of war ... we will have more humility in our discussions of wars... perhaps it is time to listen to women's side of history."

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