ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Leticia Gasca - Author, entrepreneur
Leticia Gasca is co-founder of the movement Fuckup Nights and Executive Director for the Failure Institute, the first think tank in the world devoted to studying business failure and the reasons behind it.

Why you should listen

From a very young age, Leticia Gasca was committed to making the world a better place. When she was only 20 years old, she represented Mexico at the United Nations during the 62nd Session of the General Assembly.

In 2014, Gasca was recognized as a Gifted Citizen for leading one of the 30 most innovative projects in the world, and in 2015, she was awarded as Woman Entrepreneur of the Year. 

More recently, Gasca was featured by OZY Magazine as a "Rising Star" and by The Economist as one of the "Voices from 2040." She is the author of the book Surviving Failure and a columnist at several newspapers and magazines.

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Leticia Gasca: Don't fail fast -- fail mindfully

莱蒂西亚 · 加斯卡: 别急着失败——要谨慎地失败

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我们祝贺勇敢的企业家——他们的独创引导他们走向了成功,那么失败的企业家呢?作家和企业家莱蒂西亚 · 加斯卡指出,更常见的是,他们出于羞愧或丢脸,而隐藏他们了的故事,进而错过了有价值的成长机会。在这个富有洞见的演讲中,莱蒂西亚号召企业家坦然面对他们的失败,并号召用新的“谨慎地失败”的箴言代替“草率失败”的言论。
- Author, entrepreneur
Leticia Gasca is co-founder of the movement Fuckup Nights and Executive Director for the Failure Institute, the first think tank in the world devoted to studying business failure and the reasons behind it. Full bio

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00:12
[This talk contains包含 mature成熟 language语言
Viewer查看器 discretion慎重 is advised建议]
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【本演讲含有成人词汇,
请观众酌情观看】
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If we traveled旅行 back to the year 800 BC公元前,
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如果我们穿越到公元前800年的希腊,
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in Greece希腊, we would see
that merchants商家 whose谁的 businesses企业 failed失败
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我们会看到经营生意失败的商人
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were forced被迫 to sit in the marketplace市井
with a basket over their heads.
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被迫坐在市场上,用篮子扣住头。
00:29
In premodern前现代 Italy意大利,
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在前现代意大利,
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failed失败 business商业 owners拥有者,
who had outstanding优秀 debts债务,
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破产企业主,若有未偿还的债务,
00:35
were taken采取 totally完全 naked
to the public上市 square广场
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会被赤条条地带到公共广场,
00:38
where they had to bang their butts烟头
against反对 a special特别 stone
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用一块特殊的石头打自己的屁股,
00:42
while a crowd人群 jeered嘲笑 at them.
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同时还有一群嘲笑他们的围观群众。
00:45
In the 17th century世纪 in France法国,
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在17世纪的法国,
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failed失败 business商业 owners拥有者
were taken采取 to the center中央 of the market市场,
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失败的企业主被带到市场的中央,
00:52
where the beginning开始 of their bankruptcy破产
was publicly公然 announced公布.
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在那里,他们破产的消息被公之于众。
00:56
And in order订购 to avoid避免
immediate即时 imprisonment徒刑,
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为了避免立即入狱,
00:59
they had to wear穿 a green绿色 bonnet帽子
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他们必须带一顶绿色的帽子,
01:01
so that everyone大家 knew知道 they were a failure失败.
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这样每个人就会知道他们是失败者。
01:05
Of course课程, these are extreme极端 examples例子.
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当然,这些都是极端的例子。
01:09
But it is important重要 to remember记得
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但请记住,
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that when we excessively过分地
punish惩治 those who fail失败,
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当我们过度惩罚那些失败的人时,
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we stifle窒息 innovation革新
and business商业 creation创建,
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我们是在扼杀创新和商业创造的能力,
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the engines引擎 of economic经济 growth发展
in any country国家.
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而这些能力是每个国家经济成长的引擎。
01:22
Time has passed通过, and today今天 we don't
publicly公然 humiliate羞辱 failed失败 entrepreneurs企业家.
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时间飞逝,今天我们已经不会
公开羞辱失败的企业家了。
01:28
And they don't broadcast广播
their failures故障 on social社会 media媒体.
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他们也不会在社交媒体上
宣扬他们的失败。
01:32
In fact事实, I think that all of us
can relate涉及 with the pain疼痛 of failure失败.
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事实上,我认为我们所有人
都体会过失败的痛苦。
01:37
But we don't share分享 the details细节
of those experiences经验.
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但我们并不分享那些体验的细节。
01:41
And I totally完全 get it, my friends朋友,
I have also been there.
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我完全明白,朋友们,
我也陷入过那样的境地。
01:45
I had a business商业 that failed失败
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我有过生意失败的经验,
01:47
and sharing分享 that story故事
was incredibly令人难以置信 hard.
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而且分享这个失败真的很难。
01:50
In fact事实, it required需要 seven years年份,
a good dose剂量 of vulnerability漏洞
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事实上,它花费了我长达
7年的时间,适度的脆弱感,
01:56
and the company公司 of my friends朋友.
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还有我朋友们的陪伴。
01:58
This is my failure失败 story故事.
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我的失败故事是这样的。
02:01
When I was in college学院, studying研究 business商业,
I met会见 a group of indigenous土著 women妇女.
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当我还在大学的商学院学习时,
我遇到一群原住民妇女。
02:06
They lived生活 in a poor较差的 rural乡村 community社区
in the state of Puebla普埃布拉, in central中央 Mexico墨西哥.
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她们住在墨西哥中部普埃布拉州
一个贫穷的农村社区。
02:11
They made制作 beautiful美丽 handmade手工制造 products制品.
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她们会制作漂亮的手工产品。
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And when I met会见 them and I saw their work,
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当我遇到她们,看到她们的作品时,
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I decided决定 I wanted to help.
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我决定要帮助她们。
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With some friends朋友,
I cofounded共同创立 a social社会 enterprise企业
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怀揣着帮助这些女性获取稳定的收入,
02:24
with the mission任务 to help the women妇女
create创建 an income收入 stream
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以及提升她们生活质量的使命,
02:28
and improve提高 their quality质量 of life.
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我与几位朋友共同创立了一个社会企业。
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We did everything by the book,
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我们一直在照本宣科,
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as we had learned学到了 in business商业 school学校.
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正如我们在商学院学到的那样。
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We got investors投资者,
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我们有了投资者,
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we spent花费 a lot of time building建造
the business商业 and training训练 the women妇女.
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我们花了很多时间建立企业
和培训这些女性。
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But soon不久 we realized实现 we were novices新手.
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但很快我们意识到,我们只是菜鸟。
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The handmade手工制造 products制品 were not selling销售,
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手工艺品根本卖不动,
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and the financial金融 plan计划 we had made制作
was totally完全 unrealistic不切实际.
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我们做的财务计划也完全不现实。
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In fact事实, we worked工作
for years年份 without a salary薪水,
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事实上,我们赔本赚吆喝地经营了几年,
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hoping希望 that a miracle奇迹 would happen发生,
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希望奇迹会发生,
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that magically神奇 a great buyer买方 would arrive到达
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有个大买家会奇迹般地出现,
03:04
and she would make
the business商业 profitable有利可图.
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让整个生意变得有利可图。
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But that miracle奇迹 never happened发生.
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但那个奇迹从未发生。
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In the end结束, we had to close the business商业,
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最终,我们不得不关闭公司,
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and that broke打破 my heart.
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这让我十分痛心。
03:17
I started开始 everything
to create创建 a positive impact碰撞
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我开始这一切是为了给艺术家的生活
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on the life of the artisans工匠.
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创造积极的影响。
03:22
And I felt that I have doneDONE the opposite对面.
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但我感到,整个事情的发展却事与愿违。
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I felt so guilty有罪
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我感到内疚,
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that I decided决定 to hide隐藏 this failure失败
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于是决定在接下来几年的
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from my conversations对话
and my resume恢复 for years年份.
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交谈和简历中隐藏这个失败。
03:34
I didn't know other failed失败 entrepreneurs企业家,
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我不认识其他失败的企业家,
03:37
and I thought I was
the only loser失败者 in the world世界.
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当时只觉得我是世界上唯一的失败者。
03:42
One night, seven years年份 later后来,
I was out with some friends朋友
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7年之后的一个晚上,
我跟朋友一起出去,
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and we were talking
about the life of the entrepreneur企业家.
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我们谈到了企业家的生活。
03:50
And of course课程,
the issue问题 of failure失败 came来了 out.
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自然而然地,我们聊到了失败的话题。
03:54
I decided决定 to confess承认 to my friends朋友
the story故事 of my failed失败 business商业.
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我决定向朋友坦白
曾经创业失败的经历。
03:58
And they shared共享 similar类似 stories故事.
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而她们则分享了类似的故事。
04:01
In that moment时刻, a thought
became成为 really clear明确 in my mind心神:
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在那一刻,我的脑海中清晰地
出现了这样一个念头:
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all of my friends朋友 were failures故障.
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我所有的朋友都是失败者。
04:09
(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
04:11
Being存在 more serious严重, that night I realized实现
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严肃地说,那晚我意识到:
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that A: I wasn't
the only loser失败者 in the world世界,
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首先,我不是世界上唯一的失败者,
04:18
and B: we all have hidden failures故障.
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第二,我们全都在隐藏自己的失败。
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Please tell me if that is not true真正.
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如果有谁没这么做过,
请一定要告诉我。
04:26
That night was like an exorcism驱魔 for me.
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那个晚上对我来说,
就如同一场驱魔活动。
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I realized实现 that sharing分享 your failures故障
makes品牌 you stronger, not weaker较弱.
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我意识到分享你的失败
可以让你更强,而不是更弱。
04:35
And being存在 open打开 to my vulnerability漏洞
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坦然面对自己的脆弱,
04:37
helped帮助 me connect with others其他
in a deeper更深 and more meaningful富有意义的 way
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帮助我与其他人建立了
更深和更有意义的连接,
04:42
and embrace拥抱 life lessons教训
I wouldn't不会 have learned学到了 previously先前.
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并拥抱过去无法学到的生活教训。
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As a consequence后果 of this experience经验
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作为分享我们不成功的
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of sharing分享 stories故事
of businesses企业 that didn't work,
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商业故事的结果,
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we decided决定 to create创建 a platform平台 of events事件
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我们打算创建一个活动平台,
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to help others其他
share分享 their failure失败 stories故事.
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来帮助别人分享她们的失败故事。
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And we called it FuckupFuckup Nights.
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我们称之为“搞砸之夜”。
05:01
Years年份 later后来, we also created创建
a research研究 center中央
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几年后,我们也创建了以个研究中心,
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devoted忠诚 to the story故事 of failure失败
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致力于失败故事,
05:06
and its implications启示
on business商业, people and society社会
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以及它对商业,人类和社会的启示,
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and as we love cool names,
we called it the Failure失败 Institute研究所.
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由于我们喜欢比较酷的名字,
于是称之为“搞砸研究所”。
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It has been surprising奇怪 to see
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令人惊讶的是,
05:19
that when an entrepreneur企业家
stands站立 on a stage阶段
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当企业家站在舞台上
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and shares分享 a story故事 of failure失败,
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分享他们失败的故事时,
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she can actually其实 enjoy请享用 that experience经验.
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她能够享受那种体验。
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It doesn't have to be a moment时刻
of shame耻辱 and embarrassment困窘,
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这不一定像过去一样,是象征着
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as it used to be in the past过去.
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羞耻和尴尬的时刻。
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It is an opportunity机会
to share分享 lessons教训 learned学到了
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这是一个分享经验教训
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and build建立 empathy同情.
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和构建同理心的机会。
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We have also discovered发现
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我们也发现,
05:39
that when the members会员 of a team球队
share分享 their failures故障, magic魔法 happens发生.
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当团队成员分享
她们的失败时,奇迹发生了。
05:44
Bonds债券 grow增长 stronger
and collaboration合作 becomes easier更轻松.
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纽带增强,协作变得更容易了。
05:49
Through通过 our events事件 and research研究 projects项目,
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通过我们的活动和研究项目,
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we have found发现 some interesting有趣 facts事实.
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我们发现了一些有趣的事实。
05:54
For instance, that men男人 and women妇女
react应对 in a different不同 way
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比如,男人和女人在生意失败之后,
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after the failure失败 of a business商业.
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反应是不一样的。
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The most common共同 reaction反应 among其中 men男人
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男性最常见的反应是
06:04
is to start开始 a new business商业
within one year of failure失败,
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在失败后的一年内再次开始新的业务,
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but in a different不同 sector扇形,
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但是在不同的行业,
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while women妇女 decide决定 to look for a job工作
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而女性则决定找份工作,
06:13
and postpone推迟 the creation创建
of a new business商业.
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并推迟创造新事业。
06:16
Our hypothesis假设 is that this happens发生
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我们对此的猜测是,
06:18
because women妇女 tend趋向 to suffer遭受 more
from the impostor骗子 syndrome综合征.
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女性更容易受到“冒牌者症候群”的折磨。
06:22
We feel that we need something else其他
to be a good entrepreneur企业家.
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我们觉得我们还需要其他东西,
才能成为好的企业家。
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But I have seen看到 that in many许多, many许多 cases
women妇女 have everything that's needed需要.
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但我在很多案例中见到,女性其实
已经具备了所需要的一切品质。
06:33
We just need to take the step.
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我们只是需要多迈出一步。
06:36
And in the case案件 of men男人,
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而在男性的例子中,
06:38
it is more common共同 to see that they feel
they have enough足够 knowledge知识
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更普遍的情况是,他们觉得
自己已经拥有了足够的知识,
06:42
and just need to put it in practice实践
in another另一个 place地点 with better luck运气.
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只是在等待一个更好的机会。
06:47
Another另一个 interesting有趣 finding发现 has been
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另一个有趣的发现是,
06:50
that there are regional区域性 differences分歧
on how entrepreneurs企业家 cope应付 with failure失败.
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企业家如何应对失败,
表现出了地域上的差别。
06:55
For instance, the most common共同 reaction反应
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比如,在美洲大陆,
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after the failure失败 of a business商业
in the American美国 continent大陆
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生意失败后人们最常见反应是
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is to go back to school学校.
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回归学校。
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While in Europe欧洲, the most common共同 reaction反应
is to look for a therapist治疗师.
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而在欧洲,人们更愿意去找个治疗师。
07:08
(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
07:10
We're not sure which哪一个 is a better reaction反应
after the failure失败 of a business商业,
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我们不确定面对生意失败,
究竟哪种反应更好,
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but this is something
we will study研究 in the future未来.
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但以后会仔细研究一下。
07:20
Another另一个 interesting有趣 finding发现 has been
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另一个有趣发现是,
针对失败企业家的公共政策
所带来的深远影响。
07:23
the profound深刻 impact碰撞 that public上市 policy政策
has on failed失败 entrepreneurs企业家.
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07:28
For instance, in my country国家, in Mexico墨西哥,
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例如,在我的国家,墨西哥,
07:31
the regulatory监管 environment环境 is so hard,
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监管环境苛刻,
07:34
that closing关闭 a business商业 can take you
a lot of time and a lot of money.
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关闭一家公司需要花费
大量的时间和金钱。
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Let's begin开始 with the money.
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我们先说说金钱。
07:42
In the best最好 possible可能 scenario脚本,
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在最好的情况下,
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meaning含义 you don't have
problems问题 with partners伙伴,
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意味着你跟伙伴,
07:47
providers供应商, clients客户, employees雇员,
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供应商,客户,员工没有纠纷,
07:49
in the best最好 possible可能 scenario脚本,
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在最好的情况下,
07:51
officially正式 closing关闭 a business商业
will cost成本 you 2,000 dollars美元.
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正式关闭一家公司需要花费2千美元。
07:56
Which哪一个 is a lot of money in Mexico墨西哥.
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在墨西哥,这个数目可不算小。
07:58
Someone有人 who earns收入 the minimum最低限度 wage工资
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一个赚最低工资的人,
08:00
would have to work for 15 months个月
to save保存 this amount.
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需要工作15个月才能存够这笔钱。
08:04
Now, let's talk about the time.
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现在,我们再来说说时间。
08:07
As you may可能 know,
in most of the developing发展 world世界,
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你可能知道在多数发展中国家,
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the average平均 life expectancy期待
of a business商业 is two years年份.
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企业的平均预期寿命是2年。
08:15
In Mexico墨西哥, the process处理 of officially正式
closing关闭 a business商业 takes two years年份.
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在墨西哥,正式关闭一家企业
也需要两年的时间。
08:21
What happens发生 when the average平均
life expectancy期待 of a business商业
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当企业的平均预期寿命跟
08:25
is so similar类似 to the time it will take you
to close it if it doesn't work?
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关掉它的时间一样长时,会发生什么?
08:31
Of course课程, this discourages鼓励
business商业 creation创建
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显然,这无法鼓励企业创新,
08:34
and promotes促进 informal非正式的 economy经济.
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反而会促进非正规生意。
08:36
In fact事实, econometric计量经济学 research研究 has proved证实
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事实上,经济研究证明,
08:39
that if the process处理 of declaring声明
bankruptcy破产 takes less time and less money,
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如果宣布破产的流程越短,花钱越少,
08:44
more new firms公司 will enter输入 the market市场.
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更多新的企业就会进入市场。
08:48
For this reason原因, in 2017,
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正因为如此,在2017年,
08:51
we proposed建议 a series系列
of public上市 policy政策 recommendations建议
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我们提出了一系列在墨西哥
08:54
for the procedure程序 of officially正式
closing关闭 businesses企业 in Mexico墨西哥.
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关闭企业的流程的公共政策建议。
08:59
For a whole整个 year,
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在整整一年中,
09:00
we worked工作 with entrepreneurs企业家
from all over the country国家
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我们与全国的企业家
09:04
and with Congress国会.
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和国会一道工作。
09:05
And the good news新闻 is that we managed管理
to help change更改 the law.
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好消息是,我们成功地协助修改了法律。
09:10
Yay好极了!
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吔!
09:11
(Applause掌声)
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(鼓掌)
09:14
The idea理念 is that when
the new regulation comes into force,
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其背后的想法是,当新规生效时,
09:18
entrepreneurs企业家 will be able能够 to close
their businesses企业 in an online线上 procedure程序
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企业家将可以通过快速且
廉价的线上流程
09:23
that is faster更快 and inexpensive便宜.
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关闭他们的公司。
09:26
(Sighs叹息)
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(松一口气)
09:28
On the night we invented发明 FuckupFuckup Nights,
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在我们创建"搞砸之夜"时,
09:30
we never imagined想象 that the movement运动
would grow增长 this big.
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我们从来没想到这场运动
会发展到如此大的规模。
09:36
We are in 80 countries国家 now.
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我们的业务已经开展到80个国家了。
09:38
In that moment时刻, our only intention意向
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在创立那刻,我们唯一的意图
09:41
was to put the topic话题
of failure失败 on the table.
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是把失败的话题放到桌面,
09:44
To help our friends朋友 see that failure失败
is something we must必须 talk about.
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去帮助我的朋友认识到,
失败是我们不应该回避的话题。
09:48
It is not a cause原因 of humiliation屈辱,
as it used to be in the past过去,
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它不再像过去那样,只代表着羞耻,
或是庆祝的理由,也有人这样形容。
09:53
or a cause原因 of celebration庆典,
as some people say.
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09:56
In fact事实, I want to confess承认 something.
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事实上,我需要坦言一件事情。
10:00
Every一切 time I listen
to Silicon Valley types类型 or students学生们
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每次我听到硅谷范的论调,或者有学生
10:05
bragging吹牛 about failing失败 fast快速 and often经常
like it's no big deal合同, I cringe低三下四.
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吹嘘自己如何迅速失败,而且常常觉得
这没什么大不了的,我就会感到不寒而栗。
10:11
Because I think that there is a dark黑暗 side
on the mantra口头禅 "fail失败 fast快速."
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因为我觉得“迅速失败”的
言论有着很大的弊端。
10:17
Of course课程, failing失败 fast快速
is a great way to accelerate加速 learning学习
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当然,迅速失败是加速学习,
避免浪费时间的
10:21
and avoid避免 wasting浪费 time.
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好办法。
10:23
But I fear恐惧 that when
we present当下 rapid快速 failure失败
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但我害怕的是,当我们把迅速失败
10:26
to entrepreneurs企业家
as their one and only option选项,
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当成企业家们的一个或唯一选项时,
10:29
we might威力 be promoting促进 laziness怠惰.
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我们可能在鼓励浅尝辄止。
10:32
We might威力 be promoting促进
that entrepreneurs企业家 give up too easily容易.
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我们可能在鼓励企业家轻易放弃。
10:36
I also fear恐惧 that the culture文化
of rapid快速 failure失败
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我同时也害怕这种草率失败的文化
10:39
could be minimizing减少
the devastating破坏性的 consequences后果
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对企业失败所带来的恶劣影响
10:43
of the failure失败 of a business商业.
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过于轻描淡写了。
10:45
For instance, when
my social社会 enterprise企业 died死亡,
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例如,当我的社会企业倒闭时,
10:49
the worst最差 part部分 was that I had to go back
to the indigenous土著 community社区
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最糟糕的环节是,我需要回到原住民社区
10:54
and tell the women妇女
that the business商业 had failed失败
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告诉那些女性,生意失败了,
10:57
and it was my fault故障.
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这是我的错。
11:00
For some people this could be seen看到
like a great learning学习 opportunity机会 for me,
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在有些人看来,这是我
得到的最好的教训,
11:05
but the truth真相 is that
the closure关闭 of this business商业
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但真相是,关闭这个生意,
11:08
represented代表 much more than that.
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其背后的意义要深远得多。
11:11
It meant意味着 that the women妇女
would stop receiving接收 an income收入
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它意味着这些女性将没法获得
11:14
that they really needed需要.
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她们迫切需要的收入。
11:17
For this reason原因,
I want to propose提出 something.
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针对这一点,我有个提议。
11:21
I want to propose提出
that just as we put aside在旁边 the idea理念
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我想要提议,就像我们摒弃了公开羞辱
11:25
of publicly公然 humiliating羞辱
failed失败 entrepreneurs企业家,
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失败企业家这种想法一样,
11:28
we must必须 put aside在旁边 the idea理念
that failing失败 fast快速 is always the best最好.
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我们也必须把“迅速失败总是
最佳选择”的想法抛诸脑后。
11:34
And I want to propose提出 a new mantra口头禅:
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我想要提出一个新的箴言:
11:37
fail失败 mindfully正念.
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谨慎地失败。
11:39
We must必须 remember记得 that businesses企业
are made制作 of people,
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我们必须记住公司由人组成,
11:43
businesses企业 are not entities实体
that appear出现 and disappear消失
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公司不是创立和失败都没有
11:46
magically神奇 without consequences后果.
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任何后果的神奇实体。
11:49
When a firm公司 dies,
some people will lose失去 their jobs工作.
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当公司关闭时,有些人会失去工作。
11:52
And others其他 will lose失去 their money.
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有些人会失去收入。
11:55
And in the case案件
of social社会 and green绿色 enterprises企业,
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在社会和绿色企业中,
11:58
the death死亡 of this business商业
can have a negative impact碰撞
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这些企业的死亡会对它们服务的
12:03
on the ecosystems生态系统 or communities社区
they were trying to serve服务.
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生态或社区产生负面的影响。
12:07
But what does it mean to fail失败 mindfully正念?
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那么谨慎地失败是什么意思呢?
12:11
It means手段 being存在 aware知道的 of the impact碰撞,
of the consequences后果
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意思是注意企业失败的
12:16
of the failure失败 of that business商业.
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影响和后果。
12:18
Being存在 aware知道的 of the lessons教训 learned学到了.
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注意学到的教训。
12:21
And being存在 aware知道的 of the responsibility责任
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意识到与世界分享
12:25
to share分享 those learnings学习收获 with the world世界.
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这些教训的责任。
12:28
Thank you.
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谢谢。
12:29
(Applause掌声)
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(鼓掌)
Translated by jacks peng

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Leticia Gasca - Author, entrepreneur
Leticia Gasca is co-founder of the movement Fuckup Nights and Executive Director for the Failure Institute, the first think tank in the world devoted to studying business failure and the reasons behind it.

Why you should listen

From a very young age, Leticia Gasca was committed to making the world a better place. When she was only 20 years old, she represented Mexico at the United Nations during the 62nd Session of the General Assembly.

In 2014, Gasca was recognized as a Gifted Citizen for leading one of the 30 most innovative projects in the world, and in 2015, she was awarded as Woman Entrepreneur of the Year. 

More recently, Gasca was featured by OZY Magazine as a "Rising Star" and by The Economist as one of the "Voices from 2040." She is the author of the book Surviving Failure and a columnist at several newspapers and magazines.

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