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Freeman Dyson - Physicist
With Freeman Dyson's astonishing forecasts for the future, it's hard to tell where science ends and science fiction begins. But far from being a wild-eyed visionary, Dyson is a clear and sober thinker -- and one not afraid of controversy or heresy.

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From inventing Dyson Spheres, a sci-fi conceit postulating habitable shells around Sol-like stars, to "space chickens" and trees that grow in comets, Freeman Dyson is not afraid to go out on a cosmic limb. It would be wrong, however, to categorize him as a publicity-hungry peddler of headline-grabbing ideas. In his 60-year career as one of planet Earth's most distinguished scientists, several things characterize Dyson more than anything else: compassion, caution and overwhelming humanism.

In addition to his work as a scientist, Dyson is a renowned and best-selling author.  His most recent book, A Many-Colored Glass, tackles nothing less than biotechnology, religion and the role of life in the universe. He does not shy away from controversy: His recent critiques of the politics of the global warming debate have raised the hackles of some environmentalists. But far from wielding his conclusions like a bludgeon, Dyson wants younger generations of scientists to take away one thing from his work -- the necessity to create heresies of their own.

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Freeman Dyson: Let's look for life in the outer solar system

Freeman Dyson 談論:在太陽系外圍找尋生命

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物理學家Freeman Dyson建議我們到土星的月球以及穿越海王星,到柯伊伯帶(Kuiper belt)以及歐特雲(Oort cloud)找尋生命。他談論這種生命可能的樣子 -- 以及我們如何去發現它。
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With Freeman Dyson's astonishing forecasts for the future, it's hard to tell where science ends and science fiction begins. But far from being a wild-eyed visionary, Dyson is a clear and sober thinker -- and one not afraid of controversy or heresy. Full bio

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How will we be remembered記得 in 200 years年份?
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200 年後,人們對我們的印象會是什麼?
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I happen發生 to live生活 in a little town, Princeton普林斯頓, in New Jersey新澤西,
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我碰巧住在紐澤西州,普林斯頓這個小鎮上,
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which哪一個 every一切 year celebrates慶祝 the great event事件 in Princeton普林斯頓 history歷史:
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每年都會慶祝曾經發生在普林斯頓的重大事件:
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the Battle戰鬥 of Princeton普林斯頓, which哪一個 was, in fact事實, a very important重要 battle戰鬥.
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普林斯頓戰役,是非常重要的一場戰役。
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It was the first battle戰鬥 that George喬治 Washington華盛頓 won韓元, in fact事實,
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事實上這是喬治‧華盛頓贏得的第一場戰役,
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and was pretty漂亮 much of a turning車削 point in the war戰爭 of independence獨立.
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也是獨立戰爭的重要轉捩點。
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It happened發生 225 years年份 ago.
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它發生於225年前。
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It was actually其實 a terrible可怕 disaster災害 for Princeton普林斯頓.
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對於普林斯頓而言是一場大災難。
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The town was burned down; it was in the middle中間 of winter冬季,
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這個鎮整個被燒掉了;當時正值冬季中期,
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and it was a very, very severe嚴重 winter冬季.
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那是一個非常非常嚴峻的冬天。
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And about a quarter25美分硬幣 of all the people in Princeton普林斯頓 died死亡 that winter冬季
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普林斯頓約1/4的人們因為飢餓與寒冷而在這個冬天裡死去,
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from hunger飢餓 and cold, but nobody沒有人 remembers記得 that.
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可是沒有人記得這件事。
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What they remember記得 is, of course課程, the great triumph勝利,
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當然,他們記得那個大勝利:
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that the Brits英國人 were beaten毆打, and we won韓元, and that the country國家 was born天生.
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當英國打敗了,我們打勝了,於是這個國家誕生了。
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And so I agree同意 very emphatically重點 that the pain疼痛 of childbirth分娩 is not remembered記得.
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所以我感到非常生氣,沒有人記得生小孩的痛,
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It's the child兒童 that's remembered記得.
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大家只記得這個小孩。
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And that's what we're going through通過 at this time.
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今天我也打算這麼做。
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I wanted to just talk for one minute分鐘 about the future未來 of biotechnology生物技術,
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我將只花一分鐘來談生物科技的未來,
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because I think I know very little about that -- I'm not a biologist生物學家 --
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因為我知道的很少 -- 我不是一個生物學家 --
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so everything I know about it can be said in one minute分鐘.
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所以我知道的東西大概一分鐘就講完了。
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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What I'm saying is that we should follow跟隨 the model模型
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我要說的是,我們應該仿效
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that has been so successful成功 with the electronic電子 industry行業,
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電子工業成功的範例:
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that what really turned轉身 computers電腦 into a great success成功, in the world世界
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那將電腦變成世界上相當成功的一種玩具。
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as a whole整個, is toys玩具. As soon不久 as computers電腦 became成為 toys玩具,
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一旦電腦變成一種玩具,
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when kids孩子 could come home and play with them,
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當孩童們可以回家玩電腦時,
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then the industry行業 really took off. And that has to happen發生 with biotech生物技術.
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那時工業就真正成功了。這必須搭配生物科技才行。
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There's a huge巨大 --
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有很大的 --
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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(Applause掌聲)
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-- there's a huge巨大 community社區 of people in the world世界
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世界上有很大的一群人
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who are practical實際的 biologists生物學家, who are dog breeders種雞,
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他們是應用生物學家,他們是繁殖狗的人、
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pigeon鴿子 breeders種雞, orchid蘭花 breeders種雞, rose玫瑰 breeders種雞,
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繁殖鴿子的人、繁殖蘭花的人、繁殖玫瑰花的人 --
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people who handle處理 biology生物學 with their hands,
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這些人用雙手去掌握生物學,
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and who are dedicated專用 to producing生產 beautiful美麗 things, beautiful美麗 creatures生物,
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這些人致力於製造美麗的東西,美麗的生物:
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plants植物, animals動物, pets寵物. These people will be empowered授權 with biotech生物技術,
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植物、動物、寵物。這些人們能夠使用生物科技,
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and that will be an enormous巨大 positive step
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這將是
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to acceptance驗收 of biotechnology生物技術.
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正面接受生物科技的一大進展。
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That will blow打擊 away a lot of the opposition反對.
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這會將大部分的阻礙排除。
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When people have this technology技術 in their hands,
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當人們能夠掌握這個技術時,
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you have a do-it-yourself自己做 biotech生物技術 kit套件, grow增長 your own擁有 --
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你會有個生物科技DIY工具,讓你自行種植 --
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grow增長 your dog, grow增長 your own擁有 cat.
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種出你的狗,種出你的貓。
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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Just buy購買 the software軟件, you design設計 it. I won't慣於 say anymore,
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只要買個軟體,你自己設計。我不再多說了,
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you can take it on from there. It's going to happen發生, and
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從這邊開始你應該就能了解。它將會發生,
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I think it has to happen發生 before the technology技術 becomes natural自然,
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我想,這將會在科技變成自然的一部分前發生,
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becomes part部分 of the human人的 condition條件,
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變成人們周遭的一部分,
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something that everybody's每個人的 familiar with and everybody每個人 accepts接受.
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某種大家都很熟悉也能接受的東西。
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So, let's leave離開 that aside在旁邊.
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關於這個我們就說到這吧。
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I want to talk about something quite相當 different不同,
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我想談一些不一樣的,
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which哪一個 is what I know about, and that is astronomy天文學.
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談談我所知道的東西,那就是天文學。
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And I'm interested有興趣 in searching搜索 for life in the universe宇宙.
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我對於在宇宙中找尋生命很有興趣。
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And it's open打開 to us to introduce介紹 a new way of doing that,
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對於提出不同的方式來作這件事也是相當開放的,
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and that's what I'll talk about for 10 minutes分鐘,
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我將會花十分鐘左右來談這件事,
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or whatever隨你 the time remains遺跡.
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或者是我們還剩下的所有時間。
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The important重要 fact事實 is, that most of the real真實 estate房地產
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很重要的事實是,大部分的土地,
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that's accessible無障礙 to us -- I'm not talking about the stars明星,
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我們所能接觸到的 -- 我不是指所有的星球,
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I'm talking about the solar太陽能 system系統, the stuff東東 that's within reach達到
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我指的是太陽系中,藉由太空梭能抵達的地方,
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for spacecraft宇宙飛船 and within reach達到 of our earthbound地縛 telescopes望遠鏡 --
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以及地面上天文望遠鏡能夠看見的地方。
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most of the real真實 estate房地產 is very cold and very far from the Sun太陽.
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大部分的土地是相當寒冷的,距離太陽也相當遙遠。
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If you look at the solar太陽能 system系統, as we know it today今天,
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如果你看看我們現在所了解的太陽系,
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it has a few少數 planets行星 close to the Sun太陽. That's where we live生活.
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只有少數行星接近太陽,接近我們目前居住的地方。
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It has a fairly相當 substantial大量的 number of asteroids小行星 between之間
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有相當大量的小行星
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the orbit軌道 of the Earth地球 out through通過 -- to the orbit軌道 of Jupiter木星.
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位於地球軌道與木星軌道之間。
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The asteroids小行星 are a substantial大量的 amount of real真實 estate房地產,
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這些小行星就是大量的土地,
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but not very large. And it's not very promising有希望 for life,
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但並不是真的很大。因為那並不適合生物居住,
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since以來 most of it consists of rock and metal金屬, mostly大多 rock.
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因為大部分的成份是岩石和金屬,幾乎都是岩石。
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It's not only cold, but very dry.
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那並不只是寒冷而已,還相當乾燥。
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So the asteroids小行星 we don't have much hope希望 for.
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所以我們並不對這些小行星抱持太多希望。
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There stand some interesting有趣 places地方 a little further進一步 out:
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再遠一點的位置有些令人感興趣的行星,
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the moons月亮 of Jupiter木星 and Saturn土星.
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就是木星和土星的月球們。
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Particularly尤其, there's a place地點 called Europa歐羅巴, which哪一個 is --
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尤其是有個地方叫做Europa,那是 --
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Europa歐羅巴 is one of the moons月亮 of Jupiter木星,
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Europa 是木星的許多月球之一,
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where we see a very level水平 ice surface表面,
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我們發現那兒的地表有一定含量的冰層,
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which哪一個 looks容貌 as if it's floating漂浮的 on top最佳 of an ocean海洋.
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看起來似乎是浮在海洋上。
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So, we believe that on Europa歐羅巴 there is, in fact事實, a deep ocean海洋.
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所以我們相信在 Europa 上面有一個深海。
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And that makes品牌 it extraordinarily異常 interesting有趣 as a place地點 to explore探索.
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這讓它變得相當令人有興趣去探索的地方。
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Ocean海洋 -- probably大概 the most likely容易 place地點 for life to originate起源,
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海洋 -- 大概是生命最有可能出現的地方,
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just as it originated起源 on the Earth地球. So we would love to explore探索 Europa歐羅巴,
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正如地球上的生命源起一般。所以我們想要去探索Europa,
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to go down through通過 the ice,
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向下穿越那冰層,
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find out who is swimming游泳的 around in the ocean海洋,
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看看海洋之下有誰在那兒游泳,
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whether是否 there are fish or seaweed海草 or sea monsters怪物 --
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看看是否有魚或海藻或是海底怪物 --
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whatever隨你 there may可能 be that's exciting扣人心弦 --- or cephalopods頭足類動物.
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不論是什麼都很令人興奮 -- 或頭足類生物(烏賊、章魚等)。
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But that's hard to do. Unfortunately不幸, the ice is thick.
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但這是很困難的一件事。不幸的,那冰層相當厚。
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We don't know just how thick it is, probably大概 miles英里 thick,
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我們不知道究竟有多厚,也許會有幾英哩厚,
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so it's very expensive昂貴 and very difficult to go down there --
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所以這花費將會相當昂貴,也相當困難去抵達那下面 --
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send發送 down your submarine潛艇 or whatever隨你 it is -- and explore探索.
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不論是將潛水艇送下去或任何方式 -- 去進行探索。
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That's something we don't yet然而 know how to do.
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這是目前我們還不知道該如何進行的一件事。
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There are plans計劃 to do it, but it's hard.
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我們擬了許多計畫來作這件事,但這相當困難。
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Go out a bit further進一步, you'll你會 find that beyond the orbit軌道 of Neptune海王星,
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再往遠處一點,你會在海王星的軌道後面發現,
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way out, far from the Sun太陽, that's where the real真實 estate房地產 really begins開始.
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在遠離太陽的地方,有著許多土地的出現。
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You'll你會 find millions百萬 or trillions萬億 or billions數十億 of objects對象 which哪一個,
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你可以發現有上百萬或上億甚至上兆的物體,
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in what we call the Kuiper柯伊伯 Belt or the Oort奧爾特 Cloud --
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在我們稱之為柯伊伯帶(Kuiper belt)以及歐特雲(Oort cloud)的地方 --
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these are clouds of small objects對象 which哪一個 appear出現 as comets彗星
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有一大群小型物體,當它們靠近太陽的時候,
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when they fall秋季 close to the Sun太陽. Mostly大多, they just live生活 out there
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我們稱之為彗星的東西。它們大部分都存在於這邊,
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in the cold of the outer solar太陽能 system系統,
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在太陽系外圍這個冰冷的地方,
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but they are biologically生物 very interesting有趣 indeed確實,
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但就生物學得觀點而言,它們相當值得注意,
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because they consist組成 primarily主要 of ice with other minerals礦物質,
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因為它們的主要成份是冰以及其他礦物質,
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which哪一個 are just the right ones那些 for developing發展 life.
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這些正是生物組成的原料。
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So if life could be established既定 out there,
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所以如果生命能夠在這兒被創造出來,
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it would have all the essentials要領 -- chemistry化學 and sunlight陽光 --
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這兒就有生命所需的基本物質:化學物質以及陽光,
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everything that's needed需要.
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生命所需要的一切。
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So, what I'm proposing建議
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所以我的論點是
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is that there is where we should be looking for life, rather than on Mars火星,
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除了在火星上以外,還有許多我們可以找尋生命的地方,
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although雖然 Mars火星 is, of course課程, also a very promising有希望 and interesting有趣 place地點.
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雖然火星也是一個相當有希望也很吸引人的地方。
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But we can look outside, very cheaply廉價地 and in a simple簡單 fashion時尚.
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但我們可以往外看,那比較低劣的土地,很簡略的樣式。
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And that's what I'm going to talk about.
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這就是我所想要講的東西。
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There is a -- imagine想像 that life originated起源 on Europa歐羅巴,
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我能想像在Europa上孕育出來的生命形體,
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and it was sitting坐在 in the ocean海洋 for billions數十億 of years年份.
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它已經存在於海洋中幾十億年。
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It's quite相當 likely容易 that it would move移動 out of the ocean海洋 onto the surface表面,
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它很可能會從海底移動到陸地上來,
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just as it did on the Earth地球.
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就像是地球上的演進一般。
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Staying入住 in the ocean海洋 and evolving進化 in the ocean海洋 for 2 billion十億 years年份,
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在海中演化了廿億年,
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finally最後 came來了 out onto the land土地. And then of course課程 it had great --
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最後終於出現在陸地上。之後有著相當大的 --
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much greater更大 freedom自由, and a much greater更大 variety品種 of creatures生物
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更大的自由度,更多不同種類的生物,
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developed發達 on the land土地 than had ever been possible可能 in the ocean海洋.
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在陸地上發展出比海中更多種類的生物。
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And the step from the ocean海洋 to the land土地 was not easy簡單, but it happened發生.
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由海中演化至陸地相當不容易,但它確實發生了。
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Now, if life had originated起源 on Europa歐羅巴 in the ocean海洋,
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現在,如果在Europa的海中孕育出了生命,
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it could also have moved移動 out onto the surface表面.
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它也可能會漸漸移動到陸地上來。
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There wouldn't不會 have been any air空氣 there -- it's a vacuum真空.
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那裡沒有任何空氣,那是真空狀態。
08:38
It is out in the cold, but it still could have come.
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那是相當寒冷的地方,但仍然可能會發生。
08:44
You can imagine想像 that the plants植物 growing生長 up like kelp海帶
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你可以想像植物像是巨大海藻一樣生長著,
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through通過 cracks裂縫 in the ice, growing生長 on the surface表面.
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穿越冰層的縫隙,生長出地表。
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What would they need in order訂購 to grow增長 on the surface表面?
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它們需要什麼才能夠長出地表來呢?
08:54
They'd他們會 need, first of all, to have a thick skin皮膚 to protect保護 themselves他們自己
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首先它們需要有相當厚的皮膚來保護它們,
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from losing失去 water through通過 the skin皮膚.
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以免皮膚失去水分。
09:06
So they would have to have something like a reptilian爬蟲類的 skin皮膚.
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所以它們必須要有類似爬蟲類的皮膚。
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But better -- what is more important重要
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但更重要的是,
09:13
is that they would have to concentrate集中 sunlight陽光.
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它們必須要有能力聚集陽光。
09:16
The sunlight陽光 in Jupiter木星, on the satellites衛星 of Jupiter木星,
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在木星的陽光,在木星的人造衛星上的陽光,
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is 25 times fainter暗淡 than it is here,
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比地球昏暗25倍,
09:24
since以來 Jupiter木星 is five times as far from the Sun太陽.
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因為木星距離太陽比地球遠5倍。
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So they would have to have -- these creatures生物, which哪一個 I call sunflowers向日葵,
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所以將有這些生物,我稱之為向日葵,
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which哪一個 I imagine想像 living活的 on the surface表面 of Europa歐羅巴, would have to have
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我所想像生存於Europa表面的生物,需要有著
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either lenses鏡頭 or mirrors鏡子 to concentrate集中 sunlight陽光,
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透鏡或鏡子來聚集陽光,
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so they could keep themselves他們自己 warm on the surface表面.
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這樣才能讓它們在地表保持溫暖。
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Otherwise除此以外, they would be at a temperature溫度 of minus減去 150,
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否則它們將會生存於零下150度,
09:48
which哪一個 is certainly當然 not favorable有利 for developing發展 life,
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那絕對不適合生命居住,
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at least最小 of the kind we know.
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至少對我們所知道的生命來說是如此。
09:53
But if they just simply只是 could grow增長, like leaves樹葉,
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但如果它們能夠簡單的長出類似葉子的東西,
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little lenses鏡頭 and mirrors鏡子 to concentrate集中 sunlight陽光,
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小小的透鏡或鏡子來聚集陽光,
09:59
then they could keep warm on the surface表面.
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那麼它們就可以在地表保持溫暖,
10:02
They could enjoy請享用 all the benefits好處 of the sunlight陽光
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它們可以享受陽光的好處,
10:07
and have roots going down into the ocean海洋;
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然後將根部深入到海洋之中 --
10:11
life then could flourish繁榮 much more.
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生命就可以更加茂盛的存在。
10:13
So, why not look? Of course課程, it's not very likely容易
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所以,何不去看看 -- 當然生命存在於
10:16
that there's life on the surface表面 of Europa歐羅巴.
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Europa 表面的機會並不高。
10:18
None沒有 of these things is likely容易, but my,
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那些東西的可能性都不高,但是我,
10:21
my philosophy哲學 is, look for what's detectable檢測, not for what's probable可能.
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我的邏輯是去找尋能被找到的東西,而不是可能會發生的事情。
10:27
There's a long history歷史 in astronomy天文學 of unlikely不會 things
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很久以來就有一些在宇宙中本來不可能發生的事情
10:31
turning車削 out to be there. And I mean,
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結果卻發生了。我是指,
10:33
the finest最好的 example of that was radio無線電 astronomy天文學 as a whole整個.
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最好的例子是無線電天文學。
10:36
This was -- originally本來, when radio無線電 astronomy天文學 began開始,
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無線電天文學剛出現的時候,
10:41
Mr先生. Jansky揚斯基, at the Bell labs實驗室, detected檢測 radio無線電 waves波浪 coming未來 from the sky天空.
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貝爾實驗室的Jansky偵測到天空傳來的無線電波,
10:51
And the regular定期 astronomers天文學家 were scornful輕視 about this.
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而一些專業的天文學家對此事嘲笑不已。
10:55
They said, "It's all right, you can detect檢測 radio無線電 waves波浪 from the Sun太陽,
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他們說,沒錯,你可以收到從太陽傳來的無線電波,
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but the Sun太陽 is the only object目的 in the universe宇宙 that's close enough足夠
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但是太陽是整個宇宙中唯一足夠靠近的物體
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and bright enough足夠 actually其實 to be detectable檢測. You can easily容易 calculate計算
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並且夠光亮才會被偵測到。你可以輕易算出
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that radio無線電 waves波浪 from the Sun太陽 are fairly相當 faint,
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由太陽傳來的無線電波相當微弱,
11:13
and everything else其他 in the universe宇宙 is millions百萬 of times further進一步 away,
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而宇宙中其他物體的距離比這個要遠上幾百萬倍,
11:19
so it certainly當然 will not be detectable檢測.
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所以絕對不可能被偵測到。
11:21
So there's no point in looking."
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所以偵測無線電波是毫無意義的。
11:23
And that, of course課程, that set back the progress進展 of radio無線電 astronomy天文學
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於是,這讓無線電天文學的發展
11:28
by about 20 years年份.
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延遲了20年。
11:33
Since以來 there was nothing there, you might威力 as well not look.
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因為如果那兒沒東西,你就不會想要去找。
11:36
Well, of course課程, as soon不久 as anybody任何人 did look,
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而在有人真的去找尋的時候,
11:38
which哪一個 was after about 20 years年份,
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已經過了大概20年的時間了,
11:41
when radio無線電 astronomy天文學 really took off. Because it turned轉身 out
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當時無線電天文學開始受到重視。因為後來發現到
11:43
the universe宇宙 is absolutely絕對 full充分 of all kinds of wonderful精彩 things
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整個宇宙確實充滿著各種不可思議的東西
11:47
radiating散熱 in the radio無線電 spectrum光譜, much brighter光明 than the Sun太陽.
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以無線電的波長發送著無線電波,它們甚至比太陽還光亮。
11:53
So, the same相同 thing could be true真正 for this kind of life,
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所以同樣的,我所談到的能夠在冰冷的星球上生存的生命
11:58
which哪一個 I'm talking about, on cold objects對象: that it could in fact事實
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也可能確實存在的:事實上,
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be very abundant豐富 all over the universe宇宙, and it's not been detected檢測
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它可能充斥在宇宙中,而還沒被發現的原因
12:06
just because we haven't沒有 taken採取 the trouble麻煩 to look.
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可能只是因為我們不願意突破困難去尋找。
12:10
So, the last thing I want to talk about is how to detect檢測 it.
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所以,最後我想談的是要怎麼去發現它。
12:15
There is something called pit lamping換燈.
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有件事叫做pit lamping。
12:17
That's the phrase短語 which哪一個 I learned學到了 from my son兒子 George喬治,
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這個名詞是我從我的兒子喬治身上學來的,
12:19
who is there in the audience聽眾.
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他正坐在聽眾席裡。
12:21
You take -- that's a Canadian加拿大 expression表達.
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你可以用 -- 這是加拿大人的說法:
12:28
If you happen發生 to want to hunt打獵 animals動物 at night,
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如果你突然想在晚上去打獵,
12:30
you take a miner's礦工 lamp, which哪一個 is a pit lamp.
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你拿一個礦工的燈,那叫做坑燈(pit lamp)。
12:34
You strap背帶 it onto your forehead前額, so you can see
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你把它戴在額頭上來,這樣你可以看見
12:37
the reflection反射 in the eyes眼睛 of the animal動物. So, if you go out at night,
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動物眼睛裡反射出來的光線。所以如果你在晚上出去
12:41
you shine閃耀 a flashlight手電筒, the animals動物 are bright.
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你打開手電筒,動物的位置就會很明顯。
12:48
You see the red glow輝光 in their eyes眼睛,
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你可以看見它們眼中閃爍著紅光,
12:51
which哪一個 is the reflection反射 of the flashlight手電筒.
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那就是反射手電筒的光。
12:53
And then, if you're one of these unsporting違反體育道德 characters人物,
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如果你剛好是一個不守規則的人,
12:58
you shoot射擊 the animals動物 and take them home.
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你就可以射殺它們,把它們帶回家。
13:01
And of course課程, that spoils分贓 the game遊戲
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當然,對於大部分只在白天打獵的獵人來說,
13:03
for the other hunters獵人 who hunt打獵 in the daytime白天,
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這是違反遊戲規則的。
13:05
so in Canada加拿大 that's illegal非法. In New Zealand新西蘭, it's legal法律,
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所以在加拿大這是違法的。在紐西蘭卻是合法的,
13:10
because the New Zealand新西蘭 farmers農民 use this as a way of getting得到 rid擺脫 of rabbits,
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因為紐西蘭的農夫用這種方法來除去兔子,
13:15
because the rabbits compete競爭 with the sheep in New Zealand新西蘭.
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因為在紐西蘭兔子會騷擾綿羊。
13:18
So, the farmers農民 go out at night
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所以農夫們晚上出門
13:20
with heavily嚴重 armed武裝 jeeps吉普車, and shine閃耀 the headlights頭燈,
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開著重武裝的吉普車,開亮頭燈,
13:25
and anything that doesn't look like a sheep, you shoot射擊.
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獵殺任何不像綿羊的東西。
13:29
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
13:31
So I have proposed建議 to apply應用 the same相同 trick
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所以我建議使用相同的手法
13:34
to looking for life in the universe宇宙.
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用來在宇宙中探索生命。
13:36
That if these creatures生物 who are living活的 on cold surfaces --
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也就是說,生活在冰冷地表的生物 --
13:39
either on Europa歐羅巴, or further進一步 out, anywhere隨地 where you can live生活
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不論是 Europa 或更遙遠的地方,任何可能生存於
13:43
on a cold surface表面 -- those creatures生物 must必須 be provided提供 with reflectors反射器.
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冰冷地表 -- 那些生物一定會帶有反射物體。
13:49
In order訂購 to concentrate集中 sunlight陽光, they have to have lenses鏡頭 and mirrors鏡子 --
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為了要集中陽光,它們必須要有透鏡和鏡子
13:52
in order訂購 to keep themselves他們自己 warm.
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才能夠保持自身溫暖。
13:54
And then, when you shine閃耀 sunlight陽光 at them,
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於是當你將陽光照在它們身上時,
13:58
the sunlight陽光 will be reflected反射的 back,
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陽光會被反射回來
14:01
just as it is in the eyes眼睛 of an animal動物.
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正如動物眼中反射的光線一般。
14:06
So these creatures生物 will be bright against反對 the cold surroundings環境.
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所以這些生物相對於冰冷的環境而言會變得很光亮。
14:10
And the further進一步 out you go in this, away from the Sun太陽,
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對於更遠的地方,那些遠離太陽的地方。
14:14
the more powerful強大 this reflection反射 will be. So actually其實,
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反射能力會更強。所以事實上,
14:18
this method方法 of hunting狩獵 for life gets得到 stronger and stronger
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這種獵殺動物的方法,
14:21
as you go further進一步 away,
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其效果在越遠的地方越有效,
14:23
because the optical光纖 reflectors反射器 have to be more powerful強大 so the reflected反射的 light
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因為光學反射器必須更加強力
14:28
shines out even more in contrast對比 against反對 the dark黑暗 background背景.
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才能反射對比更高的光線來對抗黑暗的環境。
14:34
So as you go further進一步 away from the Sun太陽,
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所以當你到更遠於太陽的地方,
14:36
this becomes more and more powerful強大.
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這將會變得更加的強力。
14:40
So, in fact事實, you can look for these creatures生物 with telescopes望遠鏡 from the Earth地球.
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所以,事實上,你可以在地球上利用天文望遠鏡來探索這些生物。
14:46
Why aren't we doing it? Simply只是 because nobody沒有人 thought of it yet然而.
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為什麼我們不做呢?很簡單,因為沒人想到這一點。
14:50
But I hope希望 that we shall look, and with any --
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但我希望我們會去尋找,抱持著 --
14:55
we probably大概 won't慣於 find anything,
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可能什麼都找不到的心理準備,
14:57
none沒有 of these speculations猜測 may可能 have any basis基礎 in fact事實.
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事實上這些推論都沒有任何理論基礎 --
15:01
But still, it's a good chance機會. And of course課程, if it happens發生,
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但是,這仍然是一個很好的機會。當然,如果它真的發生了,
15:04
it will transform轉變 our view視圖 of life altogether.
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這將會讓我們對生命的觀點改變。
15:07
Because it means手段 that -- the way life can live生活 out there,
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因為這表示生命可以用那種方式存在著,
15:12
it has enormous巨大 advantages優點 as compared相比 with living活的 on a planet行星.
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對比於活在星球上而言,這有著相當大的優勢。
15:15
It's extremely非常 hard to move移動 from one planet行星 to another另一個.
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想從一個星球搬到另一個星球是非常困難的事情。
15:19
We're having great difficulties困難 at the moment時刻
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對現在的我們而言是相當難的,
15:23
and any creatures生物 that live生活 on a planet行星 are pretty漂亮 well stuck卡住.
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對於活在星球上的生物也是如此。
15:27
Especially特別 if you breathe呼吸 air空氣,
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尤其是如果你需要呼吸空氣 --
15:29
it's very hard to get from planet行星 A to planet行星 B,
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從星球A要到星球B很困難的原因之一
15:32
because there's no air空氣 in between之間. But if you breathe呼吸 air空氣 --
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因為如果你需要呼吸空氣,這中間是沒有空氣的 --
15:38
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
15:43
-- you're dead --
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-- 你就死定了 --
15:44
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
15:46
-- as soon不久 as you're off the planet行星, unless除非 you have a spaceship飛船.
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-- 只要你離開了這個星球的話,除非你有一艘太空船。
15:50
But if you live生活 in a vacuum真空, if you live生活 on the surface表面
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但是如果你能活在真空中,如果你活在那些
15:53
of one of these objects對象, say, in the Kuiper柯伊伯 Belt,
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例如柯伊伯帶(Kuiper belt)的某個星體表面,
15:56
this -- an object目的 like Pluto冥王星, or one of the
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這個 -- 類似冥王星的星體,
15:59
smaller objects對象 in the neighborhood鄰里 of Pluto冥王星,
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或是在冥王星附近的一個小星體,
16:03
and you happened發生 -- if you're living活的 on the surface表面 there,
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而你碰巧 -- 如果你生存於那個地表,
16:05
and you get knocked被撞 off the surface表面 by a collision碰撞,
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你因為星體碰撞而被震離地表,
16:08
then it doesn't change更改 anything all that much.
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結果並不會有什麼太大改變:
16:11
You still are on a piece of ice, you can still have sunlight陽光
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你仍然在一片冰層上面,你仍然有陽光,
16:15
and you can still survive生存 while you're traveling旅行 from one place地點 to another另一個.
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當你從某一個地方跑到另一個地方時,你仍然可以存活。
16:19
And then if you run into another另一個 object目的, you can stay there
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而當你跑到另一個星體上,你可以在待在那裡,
16:23
and colonize拓殖 the other object目的. So life will spread傳播, then,
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移居到另一個星體上。如此生命就可以散播出去,
16:26
from one object目的 to another另一個. So if it exists存在 at all in the Kuiper柯伊伯 Belt,
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從一個星體到另一個星體。所以如果它存在於柯伊伯帶(Kuiper belt),
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it's likely容易 to be very widespread廣泛. And you will have then
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它可能散播的相當廣範。那麼你將會
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a great competition競爭 amongst其中包括 species種類 -- Darwinian達爾文 evolution演化 --
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在各物種中擁有最佳的競爭力,達爾文的演化論,
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so there'll有會 be a huge巨大 advantage優點 to the species種類
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所以這些物種將有相當大的優勢,
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which哪一個 is able能夠 to jump from one place地點 to another另一個
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也就是能夠從某個地方移居到另一個地方的能力,
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without having to wait for a collision碰撞. And there'll有會 be advantages優點
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而不需要等待另一個撞擊發生。這將會是很大的優勢
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for spreading傳播 out long, sort分類 of kelp-like海帶類 forest森林 of vegetation植被.
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來廣泛散佈,產生類似海藻的森林。
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I call these creatures生物 sunflowers向日葵.
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我稱這些生物為向日葵。
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They look like, maybe like sunflowers向日葵.
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它們看起來也許像是向日葵。
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They have to be all the time pointing指點 toward the Sun太陽,
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它們必須永遠朝向太陽,
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and they will be able能夠 to spread傳播 out in space空間,
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它們可以散佈到太空之中,
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because gravity重力 on these objects對象 is weak.
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因為這些星體的重力很弱。
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So they can collect蒐集 sunlight陽光 from a big area.
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所以它們可以用較大的面積來蒐集陽光。
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So they will, in fact事實, be quite相當 easy簡單 for us to detect檢測.
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所以它們將會比較容易被探測到。
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So, I hope希望 in the next下一個 10 years年份, we'll find these creatures生物,
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所以我希望在未來十年中,我們能夠找到這些生物,
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and then, of course課程, our whole整個 view視圖 of life in the universe宇宙 will change更改.
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於是我們對於宇宙的生命觀將會改變。
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If we don't find them, then we can create創建 them ourselves我們自己.
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如果我們找不到的話,到時候我們可以創造一些出來。
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
17:33
That's another另一個 wonderful精彩 opportunity機會 that's opening開盤.
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有另一個很棒的機會正在開始。
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We can -- as soon不久 as we have a little bit more understanding理解
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我們可以,只要我們能夠更加了解基因工程,
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of genetic遺傳 engineering工程, one of the things you can do with your
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你能做的其中一件事就是,
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take-it-home取它回家, do-it-yourself自己做 genetic遺傳 engineering工程 kit套件 --
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將它帶回家,自己動手作,用那個基因工程速成包 --
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(Laughter笑聲) --
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(笑聲)
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is to design設計 a creature生物 that can live生活 on a cold satellite衛星,
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--用來設計可以在冰冷的人造衛星上生存的生物,
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a place地點 like Europa歐羅巴, so we could colonize拓殖 Europa歐羅巴 with our own擁有 creatures生物.
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一個類似Europa的地方,於是我們可以在Europa上繁殖屬於我們的生物。
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That would be a fun開玩笑 thing to do.
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那將會是很有趣的事情。
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
18:08
In the long run, of course課程,
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當然,這需要很長時間,
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it would also make it possible可能 for us to move移動 out there.
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那將會使得搬離地球是可能的。
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What's going to happen發生 in the end結束,
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在最後的結果會將會是 --
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it's not going to be just humans人類 colonizing殖民 space空間,
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不只是人類會殖民到太空中,
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it's going to be life moving移動 out from the Earth地球,
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而是地球的生命將會搬遷出去,
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moving移動 it into its kingdom王國. And the kingdom王國 of life,
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搬遷到它的王國之中。而這個生命體王國,
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of course課程, is going to be the universe宇宙. And if life is already已經 there,
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當然,就是這個宇宙。如果生命真的存在於那邊,
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it makes品牌 it much more exciting扣人心弦, in the short run.
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在短期內那將是令人興奮的事,
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But in the long run, if there's no life there, we create創建 it ourselves我們自己.
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但長期而言,如果那兒沒有生命,我們可以自行創造生物。
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We transform轉變 the universe宇宙 into something much more rich豐富 and beautiful美麗
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我們將會把宇宙變得
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than it is today今天.
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比現在更加豐富又美麗。
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So again, we have a big and wonderful精彩 future未來 to look forward前鋒.
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所以,我們將會有個又廣大又美好的未來。
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Thank you.
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謝謝大家。
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(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
Translated by kane tan
Reviewed by Zhu Jie

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Freeman Dyson - Physicist
With Freeman Dyson's astonishing forecasts for the future, it's hard to tell where science ends and science fiction begins. But far from being a wild-eyed visionary, Dyson is a clear and sober thinker -- and one not afraid of controversy or heresy.

Why you should listen

From inventing Dyson Spheres, a sci-fi conceit postulating habitable shells around Sol-like stars, to "space chickens" and trees that grow in comets, Freeman Dyson is not afraid to go out on a cosmic limb. It would be wrong, however, to categorize him as a publicity-hungry peddler of headline-grabbing ideas. In his 60-year career as one of planet Earth's most distinguished scientists, several things characterize Dyson more than anything else: compassion, caution and overwhelming humanism.

In addition to his work as a scientist, Dyson is a renowned and best-selling author.  His most recent book, A Many-Colored Glass, tackles nothing less than biotechnology, religion and the role of life in the universe. He does not shy away from controversy: His recent critiques of the politics of the global warming debate have raised the hackles of some environmentalists. But far from wielding his conclusions like a bludgeon, Dyson wants younger generations of scientists to take away one thing from his work -- the necessity to create heresies of their own.

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