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Carlos Bautista: The awful logic of land mines -- and an app that helps people avoid them
卡洛斯柏提斯塔: 地雷的可怕邏輯──以及一個協助人民避開地雷的 app
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哥倫比亞五十年的武裝衝突，在鄉間留下了地雷，導致不慎踩到的人重傷或死亡。為了協助社區不受傷害，卡洛斯柏提斯塔開發了一個 app 來追蹤地雷，並指引旅行者避開它們。來了解一下，在佈滿地雷的國家結束武裝衝突後，這個救命的工具如何能協助推動和平。
Carlos Bautista - Entrepreneur, creative technologist
TED Resident Carlos Bautista wants to close the information and technology gap for people in developing countries. Full bio
TED Resident Carlos Bautista wants to close the information and technology gap for people in developing countries. Full bio
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When you walk around
the place where you live,
the place where you live,
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當你在你所住的地方四處走動時，
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most of the times,
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大部份的時候，
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you feel pretty safe
and comfortable, right?
and comfortable, right?
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你會覺得很安全也很自在，對嗎？
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Now imagine if there were land mines
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現在，想像一下，
如果地雷就埋在這裡，
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buried right here,
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scattered around,
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散佈在周圍，
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and you'd never know
when you might step on one.
when you might step on one.
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你永遠不會知道
你會不會踩到其中一個。
你會不會踩到其中一個。
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That's how it is for many
in my home country, Colombia.
in my home country, Colombia.
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在我的祖國，哥倫比亞，
很多人的生活就是如此。
很多人的生活就是如此。
00:35
As a result of a 50-year
internal armed conflict,
internal armed conflict,
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經過了五十年的內部武裝衝突，
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we have an undetermined
number of land mines
number of land mines
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有不知道多少數量的地雷，
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buried throughout the countryside,
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埋在鄉間各處，
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affecting more than one third
of the Colombian population.
of the Colombian population.
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影響到超過三分之一的
哥倫比亞人口。
哥倫比亞人口。
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These anti-personnel mines
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這些殺傷性地雷的設計，
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are designed to maim,
not to kill their targets.
not to kill their targets.
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是要讓目標受重傷殘廢，而非死亡。
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The logic behind this, which is awful,
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這背後的邏輯十分可怕，
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is that more resources are taken up
caring for an injured soldier
caring for an injured soldier
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因為照顧傷殘的士兵所花費的資源，
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than dealing with a person
who has been killed.
who has been killed.
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比處理被殺死的人更多。
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I met Adriana Rodriguez
about five years ago
about five years ago
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約在五年前，我認識了
阿德瑞娜羅德里奎茲，
阿德瑞娜羅德里奎茲，
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while I was working
for the Colombian government
for the Colombian government
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當時我在為哥倫比亞政府工作，
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as a documentary filmmaker.
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我是個紀錄片製作人。
01:16
During the conflict,
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在衝突期間，
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she was forced to leave her house ...
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她被迫離開了她的家，
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with her kids in her arms.
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懷中抱著她的孩子。
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One day, one of her neighbors was killed
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有一天，她一個鄰居被炸死了，
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while he stepped on a land mine.
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因為他踩到了一枚地雷。
01:32
He was actually inside
an abandoned house, not outside,
an abandoned house, not outside,
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其實當時他在一間
廢棄的房子裡面，不是在屋外。
廢棄的房子裡面，不是在屋外。
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a house exactly like the one
Adriana was forced to leave.
Adriana was forced to leave.
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阿德瑞娜被迫離開的，
也是類似那樣子的房子。
也是類似那樣子的房子。
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Ever since, she has been living
with the fear that she, or her children,
with the fear that she, or her children,
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此後，她一直活在恐懼中，
擔心她或她的孩子可能會踩到地雷。
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might step on a land mine.
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You know, the Colombian conflict
has been running for so long
has been running for so long
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哥倫比亞衝突持續了很久，
01:51
that neither me nor my mom
have seen our country in peace,
have seen our country in peace,
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我或是我母親都沒有見過
我們的國家有和平的時候。
我們的國家有和平的時候。
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and for someone like me,
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像我這樣的人，
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who has been living detached
from all this suffering,
from all this suffering,
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過去一直超然生活在這苦難之外，
02:01
there was only two options:
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只有兩個選項：
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either I get used to it,
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我可以習慣它，
02:06
or I can try to change it
with all my heart.
with all my heart.
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或是我可以全心全意來改變它。
02:11
And I have to admit
that for almost 30 years,
that for almost 30 years,
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我得要承認，幾乎三十年的時間，
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I was getting used to it, you know?
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讓我已經習慣了它。
02:18
But something changed for me
when I met my wife.
when I met my wife.
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但當我遇見我太太時，改變發生了。
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She is a political scientist
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她是個政治科學家，
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completely passionate
about the Colombian armed conflict.
about the Colombian armed conflict.
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對於哥倫比亞武裝衝突非常有熱忱。
02:28
She helped me to understand
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她協助我了解
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how deeply our country has
been affected by land mines and by war.
been affected by land mines and by war.
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我們的國家受到地雷
及戰爭的影響有多深。
及戰爭的影響有多深。
02:35
We decided to come here
to the United States
to the United States
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我們決定來到這裡，美國，
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in search of new skills
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來尋找新技能，
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that would enable us to contribute
in a fair way to our society,
in a fair way to our society,
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讓我們能用一種公正的方式
來對我們的社會做出貢獻，
來對我們的社會做出貢獻，
02:44
and maybe even help heal it.
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甚至協助治癒它。
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While in grad school,
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在研究所時，
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I started developing
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我開始開發一種擴增實境，
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an augmented reality,
really broad application
really broad application
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應用非常廣，
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to help military personnel
to deactivate land mines more safely.
to deactivate land mines more safely.
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它能協助軍人用
更安全的方式解除地雷。
更安全的方式解除地雷。
02:57
During that time, I also realized
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在那時期，我也了解到
03:00
that Colombia is not
the only country in the world
the only country in the world
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哥倫比亞並非世界上唯一
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that has to worry about land mines.
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要擔心地雷的國家。
03:06
In fact, more than 58 countries
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事實上，超過 58 個國家
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are still contaminated
with any sort of explosive device.
with any sort of explosive device.
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仍然遍佈著各種爆破性裝置。
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Only in 2015, due to an escalation of war
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直到 2015 年，因為
一些國家的戰爭情況加劇，
一些國家的戰爭情況加劇，
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in countries like Libya,
Syria, Ukraine and Yemen,
Syria, Ukraine and Yemen,
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例如利比亞、敘利亞、烏克蘭和葉門。
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the number of land mines almost doubled,
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地雷受害者的數目幾乎倍增，
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from 3,695 to 6,461 people.
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從 3,695 人變成 6,461 人。
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Imagine that.
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想看看那狀況。
03:32
While some countries
are trying to get rid of land mines,
are trying to get rid of land mines,
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有些國家在試圖擺脫地雷，
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some others are increasing their use.
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其他國家卻用得更兇。
03:38
But what happens when a conflict
that involved land mines
that involved land mines
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當使用地雷的衝突結束之後，
03:42
comes to an end?
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會發生什麼事？
03:44
There are two consequences.
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有兩個結果。
03:46
On the one hand,
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一方面，
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the internally displaced population
will start returning to their lands,
will start returning to their lands,
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國內背井離鄉的人口
會開始返回家園，
會開始返回家園，
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and on the other hand,
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另一方面，
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hidden land mines are going
to start exploding more often
to start exploding more often
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隱藏的地雷會更常被平民觸發
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on the civilian side.
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而爆炸。
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That's the reason why I decided to join
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那就是為什麼我決定加入
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the Computer Science Department at NYU,
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紐約大學的資訊科學系，
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along with Professor Claudio Silva
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和克勞迪奧席爾瓦教授合作，
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to start to develop an app
called MineSafe.
called MineSafe.
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開始開發一個叫做 MineSafe
（直譯：地雷安全）的 app。
（直譯：地雷安全）的 app。
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MineSafe uses information
from the community
from the community
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MineSafe 用來自社區的資訊，
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to suggest paths that have been declared
as the most transited
as the most transited
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來建議最常有人通行
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without accident or incident
caused by a land mine.
caused by a land mine.
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並且沒發生地雷意外的路徑。
04:27
These traffic patterns
can also be used to determine
can also be used to determine
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這些交通模式也能被用來判定
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the top priority zones to be de-mined.
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哪些區域最需要掃雷。
04:35
Almost 15 million people are living now
in the countryside of Colombia.
in the countryside of Colombia.
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幾乎有一千五百萬人現在
住在哥倫比亞的鄉間。
住在哥倫比亞的鄉間。
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Imagine, for a moment, if we can
crowdsource information from all of them
crowdsource information from all of them
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想像一下，如果我們
能向他們全體收集資訊，
能向他們全體收集資訊，
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to help people like Adriana
and her children
and her children
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來協助像阿德瑞娜及她的孩子的人，
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to find safe and reliable paths.
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找到安全可靠的路徑。
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This information
can not only be used for that.
can not only be used for that.
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這些資訊不只能用在這上面。
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This information can also help them
to become more productive.
to become more productive.
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這些資訊也能協助他們
變得更有生產力。
變得更有生產力。
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Farmers will be able to find
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農夫將能夠知道
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which lands have been cleared
from explosive devices,
from explosive devices,
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哪些地方的爆破性裝置已經被清除，
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and in that way, they will be able
to find new, fertile grounds
to find new, fertile grounds
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這麼一來，他們就能
找到新的肥沃土地，
找到新的肥沃土地，
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to start growing food again.
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再次開始種植作物。
05:13
MineSafe has now a partnership
with the Colombian government
with the Colombian government
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MineSafe 現在有和
哥倫比亞政府合作，
哥倫比亞政府合作，
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for the initial pilot,
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來做一個前導計畫，
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and we have now some connections
with Cambodia and Somalia as well.
with Cambodia and Somalia as well.
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現在我們也和柬埔寨
及索瑪利亞有了一些連結。
及索瑪利亞有了一些連結。
05:23
This project is being funded
by private money
by private money
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這個專案計畫是在美國
由私人資金所資助的，
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here in the United States,
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but we don't want to stop here.
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但我們不想到此為止。
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We want to go big,
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我們想做更大，
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and we want to scale the project
to every single place
to every single place
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我們要把這個專案計畫
擴展到每一個受地雷威脅的地方。
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where land mines are still a threat.
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The Colombian armed conflict
is finally coming to an end,
is finally coming to an end,
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哥倫比亞武裝衝突終於要結束了，
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but the consequences of years of war
are still buried under our feet.
are still buried under our feet.
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但多年戰爭造成的後果，
仍然埋在我們的腳下。
仍然埋在我們的腳下。
05:48
We at MineSafe are working
to help both people and land
to help both people and land
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我們 MineSafe 的這群人，
在努力協助人民以及土地
在努力協助人民以及土地
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to find peace.
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找到和平。
05:55
Thank you.
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謝謝。
05:57
(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Carlos Bautista - Entrepreneur, creative technologistTED Resident Carlos Bautista wants to close the information and technology gap for people in developing countries.
Why you should listen
Carlos Bautista is working to develop MineSafe: a crowd-sourced information system for people in landmine-affected areas around the world. MineSafe aimsto analyze and deliver safe paths and reliable information for their daily commutes.
Bautista in an entrepreneur and creative technologist who has collaborated with other professionals to create a number of companies and research projects, ranging from a tailored shoe company to an augmented reality app that helps military personnel to deactivate landmines. He's worked with start-ups in New York City, helping them to develop and implement technological tools to enhance their educational services, using human-centered design methodologies.
As a professor, Bautista coached a team of young women during the summer of 2017, guiding them through the design thinking process at the Cornell and CUNY Women in Technology in NY (WiTNY) program. This experience allowed students to experiment with the use of empathy to develop successful technological products. Bautista has also taught classes at the Politécnico Grancolombiano in interactive design, 3D design and animation, web design, augmented reality and descriptive geometry. Bautista led the process of opening the Industrial Design program in Politécnico Grancolombiano, which opened in 2015.
Bautista is based in NYC working as a research associate at Tandon School of Engineering's computer science department, under the supervision of professor Claudio Silva, Interim Director of Center for Data Science. Together they are working to develop MineSafe to help people in rural areas of the world to move freely and safely without worrying about landmines.
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