TED Salon: Radical Craft
Gabby Rivera: The story of Marvel's first queer Latina superhero
Gabby Rivera: Priča o prvoj Marvelovoj lezbijskoj latinoameričkoj superjunakinji
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Marvelovom "Americom Chavez", Gabby Rivera napisala je novu vrstu superjunakinje - onu koja može odbaciti portale u druge dimenzije, istovremeno prihvaćajući svoju nježnu, budalastu i slabu stranu. U smiješnom i osobnom govoru, Rivera pripovijeda kako je njezino vlastito djetinjstvo lezbijke Portorikanke u Bronxu utjecalo na ovu novu priču - te pokazuje prizore iz stripa koji otkrivaju što se događa kad superjunakinja prihvaća svoju ljudskost. Kao što kaže: "Taj nam mit, da moramo sve prolaziti sami i biti čvrsti, ne služi."
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00:13
At no point did I think superheroes
would become such a huge part of my life.
would become such a huge part of my life.
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Nikad nisam pomislila da će superjunaci
postati tako velikim dijelom mog života.
postati tako velikim dijelom mog života.
00:21
As a kid, I looked at them,
and I saw everything I wasn't.
and I saw everything I wasn't.
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Kao dijete sam ih gledala i
vidjela sve ono što ja nisam.
vidjela sve ono što ja nisam.
00:25
They had big muscles,
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Oni su imali velike mišiće,
00:27
supermodel good looks,
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izgled kao u supermodela
00:28
and phenomenal cosmic powers.
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i fenomenalne svemirske moći.
00:32
And me?
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A ja?
00:34
I kind of looked like this,
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Izgledala sam ovako,
00:36
except shorter and with frizzier hair,
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samo sam bila niža i kovrčastije kose
00:39
and I never felt powerful.
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te se nikad nisam osjećala moćnom.
00:43
I was always just one big ball
of nervous, soft energy,
of nervous, soft energy,
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Uvijek sam bila samo klupko
nervozne i nježne energije,
nervozne i nježne energije,
00:46
and superheroes,
much like the bullies at school,
much like the bullies at school,
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a superjunaci, baš kao školski nasilnici,
00:51
didn't seem to have
a lot of room for that, for me.
a lot of room for that, for me.
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naizgled nisu imali mjesta za mene.
00:54
So I stayed away.
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Tako da sam ostala podalje.
00:57
And besides, who needs superheroes
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Osim toga, tko treba superjunake
00:59
when you're surrounded
by Puerto Rican women from the Bronx?
by Puerto Rican women from the Bronx?
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kad ste okruženi Portorikankama iz Bronxa?
01:02
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
01:05
My tías were cops and paramedics,
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Moje su tete bile policajke i bolničarke,
01:08
my abuelas were seamstresses
and sold jewelry up the street,
and sold jewelry up the street,
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moje bake krojačice i
prodavačice nakita na ulici,
prodavačice nakita na ulici,
01:12
and my mom got her master's degree
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a moja je mama diplomirala
odgoj i obrazovanje te je podučavala
u njujorškim javnim školama
u njujorškim javnim školama
01:15
in education and taught kindergarten
in New York City public schools
in New York City public schools
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01:18
for over 30 years.
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preko 30 godina.
01:20
So my superheroes were sitting
around the dinner table with me.
around the dinner table with me.
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Tako da su moje superjunakinje sjedile
za kuhinjskim stolom sa mnom.
za kuhinjskim stolom sa mnom.
01:24
And I don't know how much time
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Ne znam koliko ste vremena
01:25
you've spent with Puerto Rican
women from the Bronx,
women from the Bronx,
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proveli s Portorikankama iz Bronxa,
01:28
but we're also some
of the world's greatest storytellers.
of the world's greatest storytellers.
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ali mi smo također među najboljim
pripovjedačicama na svijetu.
pripovjedačicama na svijetu.
01:33
And I'd sit there
at my grandmother's dining room table
at my grandmother's dining room table
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Sjedila bih tamo za
bakinim kuhinjskim stolom
bakinim kuhinjskim stolom
01:37
and I'd listen to the women in my family
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i slušala bih žene iz svoje obitelji
01:41
tell these wild, rambunctious tales
about navigating their lives in the Bronx.
about navigating their lives in the Bronx.
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kako pričaju razuzdane priče
o svojim životima u Bronxu.
o svojim životima u Bronxu.
01:47
And I wanted to be them so bad.
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Jako sam htjela biti poput njih.
01:50
But I wasn't tough like them either.
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No, nisam bila čvrsta poput njih.
01:52
So mostly, I listened,
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Tako da sam uglavnom slušala
01:54
and I soaked it in,
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i upijala
01:56
and I found myself gravitating
to the soft threads in their stories,
to the soft threads in their stories,
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te sam se pronašla kako gravitiram
prema mekim nitima njihovih priča,
prema mekim nitima njihovih priča,
02:02
and I wrote those down.
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pa sam ih zapisala.
02:04
The funny, the goofy, the gentle --
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Smiješno, budalasto, nježno -
02:08
those were my in to storytelling,
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bili su moj ulazak u pripovijedanje
02:12
so much so that I wrote
a young-adult novel
a young-adult novel
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i to toliko da sam napisala roman za mlade
02:16
called "Juliet Takes a Breath,"
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Juliet uzima predah,
02:18
about a chubby, queer
Puerto Rican girl from the Bronx
Puerto Rican girl from the Bronx
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o bucmastoj lezbijki,
Portorikanki iz Bronxa,
Portorikanki iz Bronxa,
02:22
navigating sexuality, family and identity.
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koja istražuje seksualnost,
obitelj i identitet.
obitelj i identitet.
02:27
And on the strength of "Juliet,"
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Zahvaljujući Juliet,
02:29
Marvel Comics tapped me
to write the solo series
to write the solo series
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Marvel Comics me izabrao
da napišem solo seriju
da napišem solo seriju
02:33
for their first-ever
Latina lesbian superhero,
Latina lesbian superhero,
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za njihovu prvu latinoameričku
lezbijsku superjunakinju,
lezbijsku superjunakinju,
02:38
America Chavez.
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Americu Chavez.
02:40
Yeah!
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To!
02:41
(Cheers)
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(Klicanje)
02:43
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
02:45
Listen, OK.
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Slušajte.
02:46
Created by Joe Casey and Nick Dragotta
for the Marvel miniseries "Vengeance,"
for the Marvel miniseries "Vengeance,"
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Kreirali su je Joe Casey i Nick Dragotta
za Marvelovu miniseriju Osveta
za Marvelovu miniseriju Osveta
02:52
America Chavez has been
in the Marvel Universe
in the Marvel Universe
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pa America Chavez postoji
u Marvelovom svemiru
u Marvelovom svemiru
02:55
for over seven years.
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već više od sedam godina.
02:57
She's tough, Latina,
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Ona je čvrsta Latinoamerikanka
02:59
and she's so strong that she can punch
portals into other dimensions.
portals into other dimensions.
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i toliko je jaka da može odbaciti
portale u druge dimenzije.
portale u druge dimenzije.
03:03
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
03:04
I know, right?
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Znam.
03:05
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
03:07
And people were so excited,
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Ljudi su bili uzbuđeni
03:08
because finally, someone who shared
her identities -- queer and Latina --
her identities -- queer and Latina --
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jer će konačno netko tko je dijelio njene
identitete - lezbijke i Latinoamerikanke,
identitete - lezbijke i Latinoamerikanke,
03:13
would be writing her story.
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pisati njenu priču.
03:15
And I saw that, right?
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Uočila sam to.
03:17
And also, when I looked at America,
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Također, kad sam pogledala Americu,
03:19
I saw a young Latina in survival mode.
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vidjela sam mladu
Latinoamerikanku kako preživljava.
Latinoamerikanku kako preživljava.
03:24
See, because her moms
had sacrificed themselves to the universe
had sacrificed themselves to the universe
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Jer njene mame su se žrtvovale svemiru
03:27
when she was a kid,
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kad je bila dijete
03:29
and she'd been on her own ever since.
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pa je otad bila sama.
03:32
No wonder she had to be tough.
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Nije čudo da je morala biti čvrsta.
03:35
And that link, that link
of having to be tough,
of having to be tough,
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A ta mi je povezanost preko
potrebe da se bude čvrst
potrebe da se bude čvrst
03:38
that rested heavy with me.
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ostala dugo na umu.
03:41
Like I said, I'm from the Bronx,
and the Bronx is tough,
and the Bronx is tough,
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Kao što rekoh, iz Bronxa sam,
a Bronx je težak,
a Bronx je težak,
03:44
tough like walking past sidewalk memorials
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kao prolaženje pokraj
spomenika na pločniku
spomenika na pločniku
03:47
and dodging cop towers
on your way to the train type of tough.
on your way to the train type of tough.
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i izbjegavanje policijskih tornjeva
na putu prema vlaku.
na putu prema vlaku.
03:51
When stuff happens that's bad,
people are like,
people are like,
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Kad se dogodi nešto loše,
ljudi vam govore:
ljudi vam govore:
03:54
"Yo, you gotta keep it moving.
You gotta keep trucking.
You gotta keep trucking.
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"Moraš nastaviti, moraš se
nastaviti kretati.
nastaviti kretati.
Ne plači. Ne daj da te to dotuče."
03:56
Don't cry. Don't let it get to you."
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03:59
And my mom and my tías and my abuelas,
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Moja mama, moje tete i bake,
04:02
I never saw them take a moment to rest
or to invest in self-care.
or to invest in self-care.
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nikad ih nisam vidjela da uzimaju predah
ili da ulažu u brigu o samima sebi.
ili da ulažu u brigu o samima sebi.
04:08
And their soft? It never left the house.
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A njihove slabosti?
Nikad nisu napustile kuću.
Nikad nisu napustile kuću.
04:13
And so that was the first thing
that I wanted to give to America,
that I wanted to give to America,
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To sam prvo htjela dati Americi,
04:16
the thing that I wished I'd been able
to give to my abuelas and my tías,
to give to my abuelas and my tías,
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ono što bih voljela da sam mogla
dati svojim bakama i tetama,
dati svojim bakama i tetama,
04:20
the thing that I'm trying
to give to my mom now:
to give to my mom now:
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ono što pokušavam dati svojoj mami sad:
04:24
permission to be soft.
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dopuštenje da bude slaba.
04:26
Like, it's OK to sit in silence
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Da je u redu sjediti u tišini
04:31
and go on a journey
just to discover yourself,
just to discover yourself,
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i otići na putovanje samo
da biste otkrili sami sebe,
da biste otkrili sami sebe,
04:33
and your pain will make you
crumble and you will fall
crumble and you will fall
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da ćete se zbog boli raspasti i pasti
04:36
and you will need to ask people for help,
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pa ćete trebati zamoliti ljude za pomoć,
04:38
and that's OK,
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i to je u redu,
04:40
and that being vulnerable is good for us.
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da je ranjivost dobra za nas.
04:44
But see, I didn't come to all this
compassion and healing stuff
compassion and healing stuff
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No, nisam došla do svog tog
suosjećanja i iscjelivanja
suosjećanja i iscjelivanja
04:47
like, you know, out of nowhere,
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niotkud,
04:49
and so when it came to America's story,
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tako da, kad se radi o Americinoj priči,
04:52
I wanted to give her the space
to be human, to mess up,
to be human, to mess up,
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htjela sam joj dati prostora
da bude ljudska, da pogriješi
da bude ljudska, da pogriješi
04:57
and to find soft on her own.
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i da sama nađe svoje slabosti.
05:01
So she kind of had to quit her day job.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
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Tako da je morala dati otkaz na
svom dnevnom poslu. Kužite?
svom dnevnom poslu. Kužite?
05:04
I had to give her a superhero sabbatical,
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Morala sam joj dati superjunačku stanku
05:07
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
05:08
and the first thing I did was enroll her
in Justice Sonia Sotomayor University.
in Justice Sonia Sotomayor University.
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pa sam je prvo upisala na Sveučilište
sutkinje Sonije Sotomayor.
sutkinje Sonije Sotomayor.
05:13
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
05:17
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
05:18
Because where else would she feel safe
and represented and liberated
and represented and liberated
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Gdje bi se drugdje osjećala
sigurno, zastupljeno i oslobođeno,
sigurno, zastupljeno i oslobođeno,
05:24
but a university dedicated
to the first Puerto Rican woman
to the first Puerto Rican woman
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nego na sveučilištu posvećenom
prvoj Portorikanki
prvoj Portorikanki
05:27
nominated to the Supreme Court
of the United States?
of the United States?
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nominiranoj za Vrhovni sud
Sjedinjenih Država?
Sjedinjenih Država?
05:32
And her first class is "Intergalactic
Revolutionaries and You,"
Revolutionaries and You,"
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Njezin je prvi kolegij
Intergalaktički revolucionari i vi,
Intergalaktički revolucionari i vi,
05:36
and America is so excited,
she's ready to show off her strength,
she's ready to show off her strength,
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America je jako uzbuđena,
spremna je pokazati svoju snagu,
spremna je pokazati svoju snagu,
05:40
she's ready to show off
her portal-punching skills,
her portal-punching skills,
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spremna je pokazati svoje
vještine odbacivanja portala.
vještine odbacivanja portala.
05:43
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
05:44
and I stripped that safety net
from her right away.
from her right away.
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Odmah sam od nje uklonila
tu sigurnosnu mrežu.
tu sigurnosnu mrežu.
05:47
And I limited her powers,
and I changed up her location
and I changed up her location
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Ograničila sam joj moći,
promijenila sam joj lokaciju
promijenila sam joj lokaciju
05:50
and shook up her world,
because that is what college is like,
because that is what college is like,
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i prodrmala njen svijet
jer takav je fakultet.
jer takav je fakultet.
05:55
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
05:56
especially if you're alone.
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Pogotovo ako ste sami.
05:59
But I didn't want America
to be alone for long,
to be alone for long,
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No, nisam htjela da America bude dugo sama
06:03
and so in a homework assignment
gone totally wrong,
gone totally wrong,
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pa je u zadatku koji je pošao krivo
06:06
she lands on a battlefield with the X-Men.
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završila na bojištu s X-Menima.
06:09
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
06:10
Because, when I was in college,
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Jer kad sam ja bila na fakultetu,
06:12
the Reverend Kelly Brown Douglas
was my mentor,
was my mentor,
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Velečasni Kelly Brown Douglas
mi je bio mentor,
mi je bio mentor,
06:16
and I knew that America Chavez
needed one, too.
needed one, too.
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a znala sam da ga i America treba.
06:21
And who better to mentor
America Chavez than Storm,
America Chavez than Storm,
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A tko bi bio bolji mentor
Americi Chavez od Storm,
Americi Chavez od Storm,
06:26
the first black female superhero
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prve crne superjunakinje
06:29
and one of the most powerful
members of the X-Men?
members of the X-Men?
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i jedne od najmoćnijih članica X-Mena?
06:32
Nobody, that's who.
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Nitko.
06:34
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
06:36
And Storm teaches America
how to quiet her mind
how to quiet her mind
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Storm uči Americu kako utišati um
06:39
inside of a star portal,
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unutar zvjezdanog portala,
06:41
and when America quiets her mind,
she opens up the dimensions,
she opens up the dimensions,
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a kad America utiša svoj um,
otvara razne dimenzije
otvara razne dimenzije
06:45
and in that silence,
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i u toj tišini
06:46
she can listen for anything and anyone.
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može slušati bilo što i bilo koga.
06:52
And no one has ever offered her
silence and deep reflection
silence and deep reflection
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Nitko joj nikad nije ponudio
tišinu i duboko promišljanje
tišinu i duboko promišljanje
06:56
as a way to be powerful.
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kao način da bude moćna.
06:59
And at first, she rejects it,
but with Storm's encouragement,
but with Storm's encouragement,
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Prvo to odbacuje, ali uz
Stormino ohrabrenje
Stormino ohrabrenje
07:03
it clicks,
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to klikne
07:05
and America quiets the world around her,
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pa America utiša svijet oko sebe
07:09
and she leans into a deep vulnerability.
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i utone duboko u ranjivost.
07:12
I mean, her and Storm even hug.
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Ona i Storm se čak i zagrle.
07:15
I know.
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Znam.
07:17
And that's because my mentors
loved me enough
loved me enough
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I sve to jer su me moji
mentori voljeli dovoljno
mentori voljeli dovoljno
07:22
to encourage me to investigate
myself and my ancestors,
myself and my ancestors,
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da me ohrabre da istražim
samu sebe i svoje pretke,
samu sebe i svoje pretke,
07:26
and when you're 19,
how do you even know what that means?
how do you even know what that means?
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a kad imate 19, kako uopće
znate što to znači?
znate što to znači?
07:30
I didn't learn about the history
of my people in college.
of my people in college.
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Nisam naučila o povijesti
svojih predaka na fakultetu.
svojih predaka na fakultetu.
07:34
I learned about the history of my people
sitting on my grandmother's lap
sitting on my grandmother's lap
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Naučila sam o povijesti
svojih predaka u bakinom krilu
svojih predaka u bakinom krilu
07:38
when she pulled out the photo album
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kad je izvadila fotoalbum
07:40
and she named everyone that was here
and everyone still left on the island.
and everyone still left on the island.
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i imenovala svakog tko je bio u njemu
te svakog tko je još na otoku.
te svakog tko je još na otoku.
07:44
So obviously, I had to crash-land
a grandma on America Chavez,
a grandma on America Chavez,
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Dakle, očito sam morala
prizemljiti baku Americe Chavez,
prizemljiti baku Americe Chavez,
07:49
and not just any grandma --
a big, strong, luchador grandma,
a big, strong, luchador grandma,
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i to ne bilo kakvu - veliku,
snažnu i borbenu baku,
snažnu i borbenu baku,
07:54
one that loved her enough
to take her to the ancestral plain,
to take her to the ancestral plain,
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koja je voli dovoljno da bi je
odvela na ravnicu predaka,
odvela na ravnicu predaka,
08:00
where America Chavez
could see the history of her people
could see the history of her people
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gdje America Chavez može vidjeti
kako se povijest njenih predaka
kako se povijest njenih predaka
08:03
play out in the skies above.
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odigrava na nebesima iznad njih.
08:07
And America gets to see Planeta Fuertona,
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America vidi planet Fuertona,
08:10
the birth planet of her grandmother,
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matični planet njene bake,
08:13
and she sees it get invaded,
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vidi invaziju na njega,
08:15
and she sees her grandmother
and her mom flee.
and her mom flee.
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vidi kako njena baka i mama bježe.
08:19
And she also sees the joy
that they experience
that they experience
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Također vidi radost koju osjećaju
08:22
when their new homeland
accepts them openly
accepts them openly
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kad ih nova domovina otvoreno prihvati
08:26
and offers them tremendous care.
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i pokaže im veliku brigu.
08:29
She gets to see great pain
met with even greater compassion,
met with even greater compassion,
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Vidi veliku bol uz još veće suosjećanje,
08:33
and that's right alongside
the tremendous strength of her family.
the tremendous strength of her family.
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odmah uz iznimnu snagu svoje obitelji.
08:39
And so everywhere that I could, right,
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Tako da sam joj, svugdje gdje sam mogla,
08:41
I wrote her little love notes
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pisala male poruke ljubavi,
08:44
for her and for all the other
queer kids of color
queer kids of color
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njoj i svoj drugoj
homoseksualno obojenoj djeci
homoseksualno obojenoj djeci
08:47
trying to be magnificent.
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koja pokušavaju biti veličanstvena.
08:50
Like, when you lose yourself,
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Kad izgubite sami sebe,
08:53
dig deep into your ancestry,
because you will find the pieces there.
because you will find the pieces there.
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zavirite duboko u svoje pretke
jer tamo ćete naći tragove.
jer tamo ćete naći tragove.
08:59
And also, reminders that soft
is not a pass to duck,
is not a pass to duck,
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I također podsjetnike da slabost
nije dopuštenje da izbjegavamo,
nije dopuštenje da izbjegavamo,
09:05
to hide, to be silent, to cower.
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da se skrivamo, da budemo tihi
i da se povlačimo.
i da se povlačimo.
09:09
Soft is also a push
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Slabost je također poticaj
09:11
to hold ourselves accountable.
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da budemo odgovorni.
09:14
Kind of like when America
lands in World War II
lands in World War II
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Kao kad America završi
u Drugom svjetskom ratu,
u Drugom svjetskom ratu,
09:17
and comes face-to-face with Hitler,
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suočava se s Hitlerom
09:19
and she knocks him the hell out ...
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i nokautira ga sve u šesnaest...
09:21
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:23
just like Captain America did in 1941,
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Baš kao što je Kapetan Amerika
napravio 1941. godine
napravio 1941. godine
09:26
and who knew we'd need America Chavez
to punch Nazis in 2018.
to punch Nazis in 2018.
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i tko je znao da ćemo trebati Americu
Chavez da porazi naciste 2018. godine?
Chavez da porazi naciste 2018. godine?
09:29
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:31
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
09:35
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:36
And even that, that justified act
kind of wrecks her a little bit,
kind of wrecks her a little bit,
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Čak joj i taj opravdani čin pomalo našteti
09:41
so I made sure that she linked up
with her best friend,
with her best friend,
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pa sam je spojila s njenom
najboljom prijateljicom.
najboljom prijateljicom.
09:44
and they talk feelings
and they go on a road trip
and they go on a road trip
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Razgovaraju o osjećajima, idu na izlet
09:47
and they sing "Just a Girl" by No Doubt
at the top of their lungs.
at the top of their lungs.
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i pjevaju "Just a Girl"
No Doubta iz sveg grla.
No Doubta iz sveg grla.
09:51
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:53
And when Midas, a sinister corporation,
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A kad Mida, zlokobna korporacija,
09:56
takes control of Sotomayor,
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preuzima kontrolu nad Sveučilištem,
09:58
threatens to ban portals
and almost kills America ...
and almost kills America ...
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prijeti da će zabraniti portale
i zamalo ubija Americu...
i zamalo ubija Americu...
10:04
her ancestors reach for her ...
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njeni preci posežu za njom...
10:08
because they know that she needs to heal.
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jer znaju da treba zacijeliti.
10:12
And it is that burst of care,
that healing, that gives her the fuel
that healing, that gives her the fuel
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Ta joj nalet brige daje snagu
10:16
to defeat Midas and reclaim herself.
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da porazi Midu i da povrati samu sebe.
10:22
See, because that myth
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Taj nam mit,
10:24
of having to go it alone
and having to be tough ...
and having to be tough ...
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da moramo sve prolaziti
sami i biti čvrsti,
sami i biti čvrsti,
10:29
doesn't serve us.
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ne služi.
10:31
America Chavez is a whole superhero,
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America Chavez je
cjelovita superjunakinja,
cjelovita superjunakinja,
10:34
and she still needed a team of support
to help her find herself.
to help her find herself.
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a ipak je trebala podršku
da pronađe samu sebe.
da pronađe samu sebe.
10:40
And she needed that gentleness,
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Trebala je tu nježnost,
10:43
the type of gentleness
that is rooted in compassion
that is rooted in compassion
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tu vrstu nježnosti koja je
ukorijenjena u suosjećanju,
ukorijenjena u suosjećanju,
10:46
and still very much invested
in justice and liberation.
in justice and liberation.
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a ipak itekako posvećena pravdi i slobodi.
10:53
Because it's in that space where softness
and vulnerability meet strength
and vulnerability meet strength
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Jer upravo tamo gdje slabost
i ranjivost upoznaju snagu
i ranjivost upoznaju snagu
11:00
that we transcend our everyday selves,
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svakodnevno nadmašujemo sami sebe,
11:03
that we become something greater,
something majestic,
something majestic,
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postajemo nešto veće,
nešto veličanstvenije,
nešto veličanstvenije,
11:07
maybe even something super.
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možda čak i nešto moćnije.
11:10
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
11:12
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Gabby Rivera - WriterGabby Rivera is a Bronx-born, queer Latinx writer.
Why you should listen
Gabby Rivera is the author of AMERICA, the debut solo series for America Chavez, Marvel's first queer Latina superhero.
Rivera's critically acclaimed debut novel Juliet Takes a Breath was called "f*cking outstanding" by Roxane Gay and will be published in hardcover for the first time in fall 2019. Rivera has also written in the Lumberjanes universe for Boom! Studios. Her latest short story, "O.1," can be found in Victor LaValle's upcoming anthology A People's Future of the United States. She is currently working on her next novel.
When not writing, Rivera speaks at events across the country on her experiences as a queer Puerto Rican from the Bronx, an LGBTQ youth advocate and on the importance of centering joy in narratives as Latinx people and people of color.
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