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Jody Williams: A realistic vision for world peace
Jody Williams: En realistisk vision for fred i verden
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Jody Williams, modtager af Nobels Fredspris, bringer hård kærlighed til drømmen om verdensfred med sit knivskarpe syn på, hvad "fred" egenligt betyder og et sæt dybe historier, der sætter fokus på dem, der kæmper den kreative kamp -- samt det, de giver afkald på.
Jody Williams - Nobel peace laureate
Jody Williams won a Nobel Peace Prize for her efforts to eradicate landmines. Now she’s teaming up with five other female peace laureates to empower women to fight violence, injustice and inequality. Full bio
Jody Williams won a Nobel Peace Prize for her efforts to eradicate landmines. Now she’s teaming up with five other female peace laureates to empower women to fight violence, injustice and inequality. Full bio
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I'm actually here
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Jeg er faktisk her
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to make a challenge to people.
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for at udfordre folk.
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I know there have been many challenges made to people.
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Jeg ved godt, at folk får mange udfordringer.
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The one I'm going to make
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Den som jeg vil give jer,
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is that it is time for us to reclaim
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er at det er tid for os at genfinde
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what peace really means.
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den rigtige mening af fred.
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Peace is not "Kumbaya, my Lord."
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Fred er ikke "Kumbaya, my Lord."
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Peace is not the dove and the rainbow --
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Fred er ikke duen og regnbuen --
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as lovely as they are.
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så dejlige som de end er.
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When I see the symbols
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Når jeg ser symbolerne
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of the rainbow and the dove,
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af regnbuen og duen,
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I think of personal serenity.
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tænker jeg på personlig sindsro.
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I think of meditation.
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Jeg tænker på meditation.
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I do not think
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Jeg tænker ikke på det,
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about what I consider to be peace,
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jeg anser som fred,
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which is sustainable peace
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som er bæredygtig fred
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with justice and equality.
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med retfærdighed og lighed.
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It is a sustainable peace
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Det er en bæredygtig fred
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in which the majority of people
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hvor de fleste mennesker
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on this planet
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på denne planet
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have access to enough resources
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har adgang til nok resourcer
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to live dignified lives,
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til at leve værdige liv,
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where these people have enough access
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hvor disse mennersker har adgang
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to education
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til uddannelse
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and health care,
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og sundhedspleje,
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so that they can live in freedom from want
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så de kan leve fri for nød
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and freedom from fear.
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og fri for angst.
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This is called human security.
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Dette hedder menneskers sikkerhed.
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And I am not a complete pacifist
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Og jeg er ikke totalt pacifistisk
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like some of my really, really heavy-duty,
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ligesom nogle af mine virkeligt, virkeligt totalt
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non-violent friends,
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ikke-voldelige venner,
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like Mairead McGuire.
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som Mairead McGuire.
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I understand that humans
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Jeg forstår at mennesker
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are so "messed up" --
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er så forstyrrede --
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to use a nice word,
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for at bruge et pænt ord,
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because I promised my mom
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for jeg lovede min mor,
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I'd stop using the F-bomb in public.
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at jeg ville stoppe med at bruge F-bomben.
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And I'm trying harder and harder.
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Og jeg prøver hårdere og hårdere.
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Mom, I'm really trying.
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Mor, jeg prøver virkeligt.
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We need a little bit of police;
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Vi har brug for en smule politi,
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we need a little bit of military,
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vi har brug for lidt militær,
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but for defense.
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i hvert fald forsvar.
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We need to redefine
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Vi er nød til at omdefinere,
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what makes us secure
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hvad det er der gør os sikre
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in this world.
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her i verden.
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It is not arming our country
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Det er ikke at bevæbne vores land
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to the teeth.
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til tænderne.
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It is not getting other countries
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Der er ikke at få andre lande
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to arm themselves to the teeth
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til at bevæbne sig til tænderne
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with the weapons that we produce
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med de våben, som vi producerer
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and we sell them.
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og sælger.
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It is using that money more rationally
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Det er at bruge de penge mere rationelt,
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to make the countries of the world secure,
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for at gøre verdens lande sikre,
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to make the people of the world secure.
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for at gøre verdens folk sikre.
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I was thinking about
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Jeg tænkte på
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the recent ongoings
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de ting der er sket
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in Congress,
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i Kongressen for nyligt,
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where the president is offering
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hvor presidenten tilbyder
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8.4 billion dollars
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8.4 milliarder dollars
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to try to get the START vote.
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for at prøve at vinde START afstemningen.
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I certainly support the START vote.
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Jeg støtter helt sikkert START afstemningen.
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But he's offering 84 billion dollars
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Men han tilbyder 84 milliarder dollars
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for the modernizing
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for at modernisere
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of nuclear weapons.
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atomvåben.
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Do you know the figure that the U.N. talks about
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Vidste I at tallet FN taler om
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for fulfilling the Millennium Development Goals
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for at fuldføre milleniumudviklingsmålene
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is 80 billion dollars?
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er 80 millioner dollars?
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Just that little bit of money,
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Bare en smule penge,
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which to me, I wish it was in my bank account --
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som jeg ville ønske var i min bankkonto --
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it's not, but ...
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det er de ikke, men...
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In global terms, it's a little bit of money.
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Globalt set er det en lille smule penge.
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But it's going to modernize weapons
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Men de bruges på at modernisere våben,
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we do not need
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som vi ikke har brug for,
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and will not be gotten rid of in our lifetime,
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og som ikke vi ikke kan slippe af med i vores levetid,
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unless we get up off our ...
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med mindre vi får fingeren ud af ...
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and take action to make it happen,
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og tager skridt for at få det til at ske --
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unless we begin to believe
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med mindre vi begynder at tro på,
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that all of the things that we've been hearing about
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at alle de ting vi har hørt om
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in these last two days
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de sidste par dage
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are elements of what come together
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er elementer, der kan føres sammen
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to make human security.
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for at oprette menneskers sikkerhed.
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It is saving the tigers.
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Det er at redde tigrene.
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It is stopping the tar sands.
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Det er at stoppe tjæresandet.
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It is having access
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Der er at have adgang til
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to medical equipment
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medicinsk udstyr
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that can actually tell who does have cancer.
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som rent faktisk kan fortælle, hvem der har kræft.
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It is all of those things.
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Det er alle disse ting.
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It is using our money for all of those things.
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Det er at bruge vores penge på alle disse ting.
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It is about action.
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Det handler om handling.
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I was in Hiroshima
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Jeg var i Hiroshima
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a couple of weeks ago,
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for et par uger siden,
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and His Holiness --
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og Hans Hellighed --
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we're sitting there in front of thousands of people in the city,
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sad foran tusindvis af mennesker i byen,
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and there were about eight of us Nobel laureates.
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og der var omkring otte af os Nobelprismodtagere.
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And he's a bad guy. He's like a bad kid in church.
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Og han er en dårlig fyr; han er som en uartig dreng i kirken.
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We're staring at everybody, waiting our turn to speak,
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Vi stirrer på alle menneskerne mens vi venter på at skulle tale,
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and he leans over to me, and he says,
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og han læner sig over mod mig og siger:
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"Jody, I'm a Buddhist monk."
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"Jody, jeg er en Buddhistisk munk."
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I said, "Yes, Your Holiness.
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Jeg sagde: "Ja, Deres Hellighed,
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Your robe gives it away."
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Deres kåbe afslører dig."
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(Laughter)
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(Latter)
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He said, "You know
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Han sagde: "Ved du,
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that I kind of like meditation, and I pray."
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at jeg godt kan lide at meditere, og jeg beder."
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I said, "That's good. That's good.
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Jeg sagde: "Det er godt. Det er godt.
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We need that in the world.
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Det har vi brug for i verden.
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I don't follow that, but that's cool."
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Jeg følger det ikke selv, men det er ok."
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And he says, "But I have become skeptical.
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Og han siger: "Men jeg er blevet skeptisk.
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I do not believe
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Jeg tror ikke på
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that meditation and prayer
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at meditation og bøn
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will change this world.
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vil ændre verden.
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I think what we need
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Og jeg tror, at det vi behøver,
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is action."
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er handling."
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His Holiness, in his robes,
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Hans hellighed, i sin kåbe,
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is my new action hero.
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er min nye superhelt.
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I spoke with Aung Sun Suu Kyi
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Jeg talte med Aung Sun Suu Kyi
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a couple of days ago.
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for et par dage siden.
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As most of you know,
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Som de fleste af jer ved,
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she's a hero for democracy in her country, Burma.
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er hun en demokratihelt i sit land, Burma.
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You probably also know
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I ved sikkert også,
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that she has spent 15 of the last 20 years
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at hun har været i fængsel
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imprisoned for her efforts
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i 15 ud af de sidste 20 år
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to bring about democracy.
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for sine anstrengelser for at indføre demokrati.
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She was just released a couple of weeks ago,
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Hun blev løsladt for et par uger siden,
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and we're very concerned to see how long she will be free,
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og vi er bekymrede for, hvor længe hun vil forblive fri,
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because she is already out in the streets in Rangoon,
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fordi hun er allerede ude på gaderne i Rangoon,
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agitating for change.
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for at gøre noget for at ændre tingenes tilstand.
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She is already out in the streets, working with the party
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Hun er allrede ude på gaden for at arbejde med partiet
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to try to rebuild it.
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for at geopbygge det.
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But I talked to her for a range of issues.
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Men jeg talte med hende om en række emner.
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But one thing that I want to say,
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Men en ting jeg ville sige,
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because it's similar to what His Holiness said.
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fordi det ligner det Hans Hellighed sagde.
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She said, "You know, we have a long road to go
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Hun sagde: "Ved du, at vi har langt igen
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to finally get democracy in my country.
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før vi omsider får demokrati i mit land.
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But I don't believe in hope
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Men jeg tror ikke på håb
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without endeavor.
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uden bestræbelser.
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I don't believe in the hope of change,
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Jeg tror ikke på håbet om ændringer,
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unless we take action
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med mindre vi griber ind
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to make it so."
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for at fremkalde disse."
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Here's another woman hero of mine.
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Her er endnu en af mine kvindehelte.
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She's my friend, Dr. Shirin Ebadi,
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Hun er min ven, Dr. Shirin Ebadi,
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the first Muslim woman
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den første muslimske kvinde,
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to receive the Nobel Peace Prize.
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der har modtaget Nobels Fredspris.
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She has been in exile
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Hun har været i eksil
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for the last year and a half.
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det sidste halvandet år.
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You ask her where she lives -- where does she live in exile?
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Spørger du hende, hvor hun bor -- hvor hun bor i eksil?
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She says the airports of the world.
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I verdens lufthavne, siger hun.
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She is traveling because she was out of the country
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Hun rejser fordi hun var ude af sit land,
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at the time of the elections.
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da der var valg.
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And instead of going home,
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Og istedet for at tage hjem,
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she conferred with all the other women that she works with,
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rådslog hun sig med de andre kvinder, hun arbejder med,
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who said to her, "Stay out. We need you out.
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som sagde til hende: "Bliv væk. Vi har brug for dig.
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We need to be able to talk to you out there,
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Vi er nød til at kunne tale med dig derude,
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so that you can give the message
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så du kan videregive beskeden
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of what's happening here."
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om, hvad der sker her."
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A year and a half --
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Halvandet år --
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she's out speaking
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hun er ude og tale
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on behalf of the other women in her country.
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på vegne af de andre kvinder i hendes land.
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Wangari Maathai --
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Wangari Maathai --
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2004 Peace laureate.
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2004 Fredsprisvinder.
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They call her the "Tree Lady,"
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De kalder hende trækvinden,
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but she's more than the Tree Lady.
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men hun er mere end blot trækvinden.
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Working for peace
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At arbejde for fred
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is very creative.
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er meget kreativt.
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It's hard work every day.
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Det er hårdt arbejde hver dag.
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When she was planting those trees,
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Da hun plantede de træer,
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I don't think most people understand
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tror jeg ikke at de fleste forstår.
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that, at the same time,
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at hun på samme tid
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she was using the action
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brugte denne handlig
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of getting people together to plant those trees
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til at få folk samlet om at plante de træer,
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to talk about how to overcome
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for at tale om hvordan de skulle overkomme
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the authoritarian government in her country.
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den autoritære regering i hendes land.
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People could not gather
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Folk kunne ikke samles
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without getting busted and taken to jail.
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uden at blive taget og sendt i fængsel.
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But if they were together planting trees for the environment,
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Men hvis de var samlet om at plante træer for miljøet,
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it was okay --
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så var det ok --
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creativity.
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kreativt.
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But it's not just iconic women
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Men det er ikke blot ikoniske kvinder
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like Shirin,
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som Shirin,
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like Aung Sun Suu Kyi, like Wangari Maathai --
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som Aung Sun Suu Kyi, som Wangari Maathai;
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it is other women in the world
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det er andre kvinder i verden,
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who are also struggling together
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som sammen kæmper for
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to change this world.
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at ændre verden.
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The Women's League of Burma,
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Women's League of Burma --
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11 individual organizations of Burmese women
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11 individuelle organisationer af Burmesiske kvinder
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came together because there's strength in numbers.
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samledes fordi der er styrke i antal.
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Working together is what changes our world.
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At arbejde sammen muliggør at verden ændres.
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The Million Signatures Campaign
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En Million Underskrifter Kampagnen
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of women inside Burma
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af burmesiske kvinder
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working together to change human rights,
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samlet for at ændre menneskerettighederne,
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to bring democracy to that country.
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for at bringe demokrati til det land.
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When one is arrested and taken to prison,
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Når en bliver arresteret og sendt i fængsel
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another one comes out and joins the movement,
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kommer en anden ud og tilsutter sig bevægelsen --
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recognizing that if they work together,
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de forstår, at hvis de arbejder sammen,
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they will ultimately bring change
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så vil de ultimativt ændre tingene
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in their own country.
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i deres land.
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Mairead McGuire in the middle,
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Mairead McGuire i midten,
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Betty Williams on the right-hand side --
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Betty Williams på højre side --
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bringing peace to Northern Ireland.
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for at bringe fred til Nordirland.
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I'll tell you the quick story.
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Lad mig fortælle Jer en hurtig historie.
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An IRA driver was shot,
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En IRA chauffør blev skudt,
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and his car plowed into people
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og hans bil pløjede ind i folk
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on the side of the street.
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på siden af gaden.
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There was a mother and three children.
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Der var en mor og tre børn.
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The children were killed on the spot.
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Børnene døde på stedet.
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It was Mairead's sister.
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Det var Maireads søster.
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Instead of giving in
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I stedet for at overgive sig
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to grief, depression, defeat
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til sorg, depression, nederlag
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in the face of that violence,
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i lyset of vold,
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Mairead hooked up with Betty --
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gik Mairead og Betty sammen --
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a staunch Protestant and a staunch Catholic --
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en trofast protestant og en trofast katolik --
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and they took to the streets
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og de gik på gaden
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to say, "No more violence."
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for at sige "Ikke mere vold."
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And they were able to get
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Og det lykkedes dem at få
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tens of thousands of, primarily, women, some men,
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titusindvis af primært kvinder -- nogle mænd --
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in the streets to bring about change.
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ud på gaden for at ændre tingene.
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And they have been
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Og de har været
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part of what brought peace to Northern Ireland,
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del af det der skabte fred i Nordirland,
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and they're still working on it,
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og de arbejder stadig på det,
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because there's still a lot more to do.
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for der er stadig meget, der skal gøres.
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This is Rigoberta Menchu Tum.
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Det her er Rigoberta Menchu Tum.
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She also received the Peace Prize.
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Hun har også modtaget fredsprisen.
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She is now running for president.
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Hun er nu præsidentkandidat.
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She is educating the indigenous people of her country
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Hun underviser de oprindelige folk i sit land i,
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about what it means to be a democracy,
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hvad demokrati betyder,
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about how you bring democracy to the country,
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hvordan man opbygger demokrati i sit land,
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about educating, about how to vote --
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hvad undervisning er, hvordan man stemmer --
09:34
but that democracy is not just about voting;
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men at demokrati ikke blot er om at stemme,
09:37
it's about being an active citizen.
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det er om at være en aktiv borger.
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That's what I got stuck doing --
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Det her er hvad jeg gik igang med --
09:41
the landmine campaign.
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landminekampagnen.
09:43
One of the things that made this campaign work
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En af de ting der gjorde denne kampagne succesfuld,
09:46
is because we grew from two NGOs
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er fordi den opstod fra to NGOer
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to thousands
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til tusindvis
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in 90 countries around the world,
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i 90 lande i verden,
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working together in common cause to ban landmines.
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samlet i fælles sag om at forbyde landminer.
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Some of the people who worked in our campaign
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Nogle af de folk der arbejdede i vores kampagne
09:59
could only work maybe an hour a month.
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kunne måske kun arbejde en time om måneden.
10:01
They could maybe volunteer that much.
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Så meget kunne de måske arbejde frivilligt.
10:03
There were others, like myself,
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Der var andre, som mig selv,
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who were full-time.
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som kunne arbejde på fuld tid.
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But it was the actions, together, of all of us
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Men det var vores alle sammens handlinger,
10:10
that brought about that change.
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der forårsagede ændringerne.
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In my view, what we need today
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Efter min mening, er det vi mangler i dag
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is people getting up
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folk som stiller sig op
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and taking action
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og tager handling,
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to reclaim the meaning of peace.
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for at genvinde betydningen af fred.
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It's not a dirty word.
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Det er ikke et fyord.
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It's hard work every single day.
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Det er hårdt arbejde hver eneste dag.
10:24
And if each of us
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Og hvis hver af os,
10:26
who cares about the different things we care about
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som har forskellige ting der betyder noget for os,
10:28
got up off our butts
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fik fingeren ud
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and volunteered
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og arbejde frivilligt
10:32
as much time as we could,
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så meget som vi kunne,
10:35
we would change this world,
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så kunne vi ændre verden,
10:37
we would save this world.
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vi kunne redde denne verden.
10:39
And we can't wait for the other guy. We have to do it ourselves.
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Og vi kan ikke vente på naboen; vi skal gøre det selv.
10:41
Thank you.
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Tak.
10:43
(Applause)
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(Bifald)
Translated by Ditte Duclert
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Jody Williams - Nobel peace laureateJody Williams won a Nobel Peace Prize for her efforts to eradicate landmines. Now she’s teaming up with five other female peace laureates to empower women to fight violence, injustice and inequality.
Why you should listen
In more than 100 years of Nobel Peace Prizes, only a dozen women have ever won. Civil-rights and peace activist Jody Williams, received the award in 1997 as the chief strategist of the International Campaign to Ban Landmines, which established the first global treaty banning antipersonnel mines.
Williams believes that peace is defined by human (not national) security and that it must be achieved through sustainable development, environmental justice, and meeting people’s basic needs. To this end, she co-founded the Nobel Women’s Initiative, endorsed by six of seven living female Peace laureates. She chairs the effort to support activists, researchers, and others working toward peace, justice, and equality for women and thus humanity. Williams also continues to fight for the total global eradication of landmines.
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