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Catherine Mohr: The tradeoffs of building green
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In a short, funny, data-packed talk at TED U, Catherine Mohr walks through all the geeky decisions she made when building a green new house -- looking at real energy numbers, not hype. What choices matter most? Not the ones you think.
Catherine Mohr - Roboticist
Catherine Mohr loves what she does -- she's just not ever sure what it will be next. Full bio
Catherine Mohr loves what she does -- she's just not ever sure what it will be next. Full bio
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First of all, I'm a geek.
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I'm an organic food-eating,
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carbon footprint-minimizing, robotic surgery geek.
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And I really want to build green,
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but I'm very suspicious
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of all of these well-meaning articles,
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people long on moral authority
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and short on data,
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telling me how to do these kinds of things.
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And so I have to figure this out for myself.
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For example: Is this evil?
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I have dropped a blob of organic yogurt
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from happy self-actualized local cows
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on my counter top,
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and I grab a paper towel and I want to wipe it up.
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But can I use a paper towel? (Laughter)
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The answer to this can be found in embodied energy.
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This is the amount of energy that goes into
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any paper towel or embodied water,
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and every time I use a paper towel,
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I am using this much
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virtual energy and water.
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Wipe it up, throw it away.
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Now, if I compare that to a cotton towel
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that I can use a thousand times,
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I don't have a whole lot of embodied energy
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until I wash that yogurty towel.
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This is now operating energy.
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So if I throw my towel in the washing machine,
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I've now put energy and water
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back into that towel ...
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unless I use a front-loading, high-efficiency washing machine, (Laughter)
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and then it looks a little bit better.
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But what about a recycled paper towel
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that comes in those little half sheets?
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Well, now a paper towel looks better.
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Screw the paper towels. Let's go to a sponge.
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I wipe it up with a sponge, and I put it under the running water,
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and I have a lot less energy and a lot more water.
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Unless you're like me and you leave the handle
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in the position of hot even when you turn it on,
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and then you start to use more energy.
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Or worse, you let it run until it's warm
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to rinse out your towel.
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And now all bets are off.
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(Laughter)
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So what this says is that
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sometimes the things that you least expect --
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the position in which you put the handle --
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have a bigger effect than any of those other things
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that you were trying to optimize.
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Now imagine someone as twisted as me
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trying to build a house.
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(Laughter)
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That's what my husband and I are doing right now.
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And so, we wanted to know, how green could we be?
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And there's a thousand and one articles out there
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telling us how to make all these green trade-offs.
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And they are just as suspect
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in telling us to optimize these little things around the edges
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and missing the elephant in the living room.
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Now, the average house
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has about 300 megawatt hours
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of embodied energy in it;
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this is the energy it takes to make it --
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millions and millions of paper towels.
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We wanted to know how much better we could do.
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And so, like many people,
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we start with a house on a lot,
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and I'm going to show you a typical construction on the top
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and what we're doing on the bottom.
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So first, we demolish it.
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It takes some energy, but if you deconstruct it --
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you take it all apart, you use the bits --
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you can get some of that energy back.
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We then dug a big hole
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to put in a rainwater catchment tank
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to take our yard water independent.
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And then we poured a big foundation
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for passive solar.
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Now, you can reduce the embodied energy
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by about 25 percent
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by using high fly ash concrete.
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We then put in framing.
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And so this is framing -- lumber,
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composite materials --
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and it's kind of hard to get the embodied energy out of that,
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but it can be a sustainable resource
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if you use FSC-certified lumber.
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We then go on to
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the first thing that was very surprising.
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If we put aluminum windows in this house,
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we would double the energy use right there.
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Now, PVC is a little bit better,
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but still not as good as the wood that we chose.
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We then put in plumbing,
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electrical and HVAC,
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and insulate.
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Now, spray foam is an excellent insulator -- it fills in all the cracks --
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but it is pretty high embodied energy,
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and, sprayed-in cellulose or blue jeans
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is a much lower energy alternative to that.
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We also used straw bale
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infill for our library,
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which has zero embodied energy.
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When it comes time to sheetrock,
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if you use EcoRock it's about a quarter
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of the embodied energy of standard sheetrock.
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And then you get to the finishes,
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the subject of all of those "go green" articles,
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and on the scale of a house
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they almost make no difference at all.
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And yet, all the press is focused on that.
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Except for flooring.
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If you put carpeting in your house,
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it's about a tenth of the embodied energy of the entire house,
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unless you use concrete or wood
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for a much lower embodied energy.
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So now we add in the final construction energy, we add it all up,
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and we've built a house for less than half
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of the typical embodied energy for building a house like this.
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But before we pat ourselves
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too much on the back,
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we have poured 151 megawatt hours
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of energy into constructing this house
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when there was a house there before.
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And so the question is:
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How could we make that back?
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And so if I run my new energy-efficient house forward,
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compared with the old, non-energy-efficient house,
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we make it back in about six years.
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Now, I probably would have upgraded the old house
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to be more energy-efficient,
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and in that case,
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it would take me more about 20 years to break even.
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Now, if I hadn't paid attention to embodied energy,
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it would have taken us
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over 50 years to break even
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compared to the upgraded house.
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So what does this mean?
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On the scale of my portion of the house,
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this is equivalent to about
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as much as I drive in a year,
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it's about five times as much
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as if I went entirely vegetarian.
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But my elephant in the living room flies.
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Clearly, I need to walk home from TED.
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But all the calculations
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for embodied energy are on the blog.
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And, remember, it's sometimes the things that you are not expecting
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to be the biggest changes that are.
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Thank you. (Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Catherine Mohr - RoboticistCatherine Mohr loves what she does -- she's just not ever sure what it will be next.
Why you should listen
An engineer turned surgeon turned strategist, Catherine Mohr is always on the lookout for new technologies to help improve patient outcomes while trying to stay in her sweet spot -- the steep part of the learning curve.
As VP of Strategy for Intuitive Surgical in Silicon Valley, faculty at Singularity University and advisor to med-tech startups in the UK, the US and her native New Zealand, Mohr follows her self-admittedly geeky passions wherever they lead her, as she designs, makes, writes, tinkers, plays and travels all over the world.
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