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Seth Shostak: ET is (probably) out there -- get ready
Set Šostak (Seth Shostak): Vanzemaljci su (verovatno) tu - spremite se
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Set Šostak, istraživač SETI programa, želi da se opkladi sa vama da ćemo stupiti u kontakt sa vanzemaljskim oblicima života u sledeće 24 godine. Ako izgubi tu opkladu, spreman je da vas časti kafom. Na konferenciji TEDxSanJoseCA objašnjava zašto je to moguće uz pomoć novih tehnologija i zakona verovatnoće i predviđa kako bi otkriće civilizacija naprednijih od naše moglo uticati na naš život i našu planetu. (Snimljeno na TEDxSanJoseCA)
Seth Shostak - Astronomer
Seth Shostak is an astronomer, alien hunter and bulwark of good, exciting science. Full bio
Seth Shostak is an astronomer, alien hunter and bulwark of good, exciting science. Full bio
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00:12
Is E.T. out there?
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Da li su vanzemaljci negde tamo?
00:13
Well, I work at the SETI Institute.
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Ja radim u SETI institutu.
00:16
That's almost my name. SETI:
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To mi je drugo ime, SETI:
00:17
Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence.
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SETI
(program potrage za vanzemaljskim životom.)
(program potrage za vanzemaljskim životom.)
00:19
In other words, I look for aliens,
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Ja zapravo tragam za vanzemaljcima.
00:21
and when I tell people that at a cocktail party, they usually
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Kada to kažem ljudima
na zabavi, oni me obično
na zabavi, oni me obično
00:24
look at me with a mildly incredulous look on their face.
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gledaju sa nevericom,
00:27
I try to keep my own face somewhat dispassionate.
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ali se ja trudim da ne pokažem
da me te reakcije dotiču.
da me te reakcije dotiču.
00:30
Now, a lot of people think that this is kind of idealistic,
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Ovo sto ću vam sada reći
zvuči idealistički,
zvuči idealistički,
00:32
ridiculous, maybe even hopeless,
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suludo, možda čak i beznadežno,
00:35
but I just want to talk to you a little bit about why I think
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ali samo želim da vam pokažem
zašto smatram
zašto smatram
00:38
that the job I have is actually a privilege, okay,
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da je posao koji ja radim
zapravo privilegija
zapravo privilegija
00:42
and give you a little bit of the motivation for my getting into
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i da vam predočim šta me je motivisalo
00:44
this line of work, if that's what you call it.
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da se bavim ovim poslom,
ako se to tako može nazvati.
ako se to tako može nazvati.
00:47
This thing — whoops, can we go back?
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Ovaj kadar - ups, može li nazad?
00:50
Hello, come in, Earth.
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Zdravo, Zemlja zove.
00:52
There we go. All right.
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Evo ga. Dobro je.
00:54
This is the Owens Valley Radio Observatory
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Ovo je radio opservatorija u dolini Ovens
00:56
behind the Sierra Nevadas, and in 1968,
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iza Sijera Nevade.
1968. godine
1968. godine
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I was working there collecting data for my thesis.
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radio sam tamo
i sakupljao podatke za moju tezu.
i sakupljao podatke za moju tezu.
01:02
Now, it's kinda lonely, it's kinda tedious, just collecting data,
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Sakupljanje podataka je pomalo samotan
i naporan posao,
i naporan posao,
01:05
so I would amuse myself by taking photos at night
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pa sam iz zabave često fotografisao
01:08
of the telescopes or even of myself,
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teleskope ili samog sebe noću,
01:11
because, you know, at night, I would be the only hominid
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jer sam, tih noći,
bio jedino ljudsko biće
bio jedino ljudsko biće
01:16
within about 30 miles.
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u precniku od 48 km.
01:18
So here are pictures of myself.
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Evo tih mojih fotografija.
01:20
The observatory had just acquired a new book,
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Upravo smo bili nabavili novu knjigu
01:23
written by a Russian cosmologist
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ruskog kosmologa
01:25
by the name of Joseph Shklovsky, and then expanded
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Džozefa Šklofskog, koju je zatim preradio
01:28
and translated and edited by a little-known
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i preveo manje poznati
01:31
Cornell astronomer by the name of Carl Sagan.
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astronom sa univerziteta Kornel, Karl Sejgan.
01:34
And I remember reading that book,
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Sećam se, čitao sam
01:36
and at 3 in the morning I was reading this book
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tu knjigu u 3 sata jednog ranog jutra
01:38
and it was explaining how the antennas I was using
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i u njoj je bilo objašnjeno
kako se antene koje sam koristio
kako se antene koje sam koristio
01:40
to measure the spins of galaxies could also be used
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za merenje okretanja galaksija
mogu koristiti i za
mogu koristiti i za
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to communicate, to send bits of information
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komunikaciju, za slanje informacija
01:48
from one star system to another.
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od jednog zvezdanog sistema do drugog.
01:50
Now, at 3 o'clock in the morning when you're all alone,
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U tri sata ujutru, kada ste potpuno sami
01:52
haven't had much sleep, that was a very romantic idea,
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i neispavani, ova ideja vam se
može učiniti jako romantičnom.
može učiniti jako romantičnom.
01:55
but it was that idea -- the fact that you could in fact
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Ali sama ideja da se na taj način
može dokazati
može dokazati
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prove that there's somebody out there
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da tamo neko ipak postoji,
02:00
just using this same technology --
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i to koristeći istu tu tehnologiju -
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that appealed to me so much that 20 years later I took a job
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to mi se toliko dopalo da sam
20 godina kasnije prihvatio posao
20 godina kasnije prihvatio posao
02:05
at the SETI Institute. Now, I have to say
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na SETI institutu.
Moram, ipak priznati
Moram, ipak priznati
02:07
that my memory is notoriously porous, and I've often
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da mene sećanje ne služi dobro,
pa sam se često
pa sam se često
02:11
wondered whether there was any truth in this story,
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pitao ima li istine u ovoj priči
02:13
or I was just, you know, misremembering something,
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ili sam je zapravo pogrešno zapamtio.
02:15
but I recently just blew up this old negative of mine,
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Nedavno sam naišao
na ovaj stari negativ na kome se,
na ovaj stari negativ na kome se,
02:17
and sure enough, there you can see
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bez sumnje, može videti
02:19
the Shklovsky and Sagan book underneath that
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knjiga Šklofskija i Sejgana ispod ovog
02:21
analog calculating device.
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analognog računara.
02:24
So it was true.
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Dakle, istina je.
02:24
All right. Now, the idea for doing this, it wasn't very old
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Dobro. Ideja o prenosu informacija
nije bila tako stara
nije bila tako stara
02:27
at the time that I made that photo.
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u to vreme kada je ova fotografija napravljena.
02:29
The idea dates from 1960, when a young astronomer
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Ta ideja potiče iz 1960. godine
kada je mladi astronom
kada je mladi astronom
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by the name of Frank Drake used this antenna
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Frenk Drejk koristio ovu antenu
02:35
in West Virginia, pointed it at a couple of nearby stars
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u Zapadnoj Virdžiniji, usmerio je
ka bliskim zvezdama
ka bliskim zvezdama
02:38
in the hopes of eavesdropping on E.T.
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u nadi da će tako moći
da prisluškuje vanzemaljce.
da prisluškuje vanzemaljce.
02:42
Now, Frank didn't hear anything.
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Nažalost, Frenk nije čuo ništa.
02:43
Actually he did, but it turned out to be the U.S. Air Force,
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Zapravo jeste, ali se ispostavilo da ti zvuci dolaze
od američkog vazduhoplovstva,
od američkog vazduhoplovstva,
02:46
which doesn't count as extraterrestrial intelligence.
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koje ne ubrajamo u vanzemaljsku inteligenciju.
02:48
But Drake's idea here became very popular
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Ali Drejkova ideja je postala jako popularna
02:51
because it was very appealing — and I'll get back to that —
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jer je bila neodoljivo privlačna,
ali ću o tome govoriti nešto kasnije.
ali ću o tome govoriti nešto kasnije.
02:54
and on the basis of this experiment, which didn't succeed,
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Na osnovu ovog neuspelog eksperimenta
02:57
we have been doing SETI ever since,
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od tog trenutka radili smo sa SETI,
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not continuously, but ever since.
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ne u kontinuitetu, ali od tada.
03:01
We still haven't heard anything.
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Još uvek nismo ništa čuli.
03:03
We still haven't heard anything.
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Još uvek nismo ništa čuli.
03:05
In fact, we don't know about any life beyond Earth,
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Zapravo, ne znamo ništa o postojanju
bilo kog oblika života izvan Zemlje,
bilo kog oblika života izvan Zemlje,
03:06
but I'm going to suggest to you that that's going to change
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ali dozvolite mi da kažem
da će se to promeniti
da će se to promeniti
03:09
rather soon, and part of the reason, in fact,
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vrlo skoro. To mogu da tvrdim
delimično ili čak,
delimično ili čak,
03:12
the majority of the reason why I think that's going to change
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potpuno na osnovu činjenice da
03:14
is that the equipment's getting better.
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oprema brzo napreduje.
03:16
This is the Allen Telescope Array, about 350 miles
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Ovo je Allen Telescope Array (ATA teleskop),
koji se nalazi oko 563 km
koji se nalazi oko 563 km
03:19
from whatever seat you're in right now.
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daleko od ove prostorije.
03:21
This is something that we're using today
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Ovo je tehnika koju danas koristimo
03:23
to search for E.T., and the electronics have gotten
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u potrazi za vanzemaljskim oblicima života,
a elektronika postaje
a elektronika postaje
03:25
very much better too.
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sve bolja iz dana u dan.
03:26
This is Frank Drake's electronics in 1960.
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Ovo je elektronika koju je koristio
Frenk Drejk 1960. godine.
Frenk Drejk 1960. godine.
03:29
This is the Allen Telescope Array electronics today.
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Ovo je ATA teleskop koji mi koristimo danas.
03:31
Some pundit with too much time on his hands
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Neki učenjak sa previše slobodnog vremena
03:34
has reckoned that the new experiments are approximately
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procenio je da su novi eksperimenti
03:37
100 trillion times better than they were in 1960,
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približno 100 biliona puta bolji
nego što su bili 1960.
nego što su bili 1960.
03:42
100 trillion times better.
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100 biliona puta bolji.
03:43
That's a degree of an improvement that would look good
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Ovaj nivo poboljšanja izgleda dobro
03:45
on your report card, okay?
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u bilo kom izveštaju, zar ne?
03:48
But something that's not appreciated by the public is,
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Ali javnost nije upoznata sa činjenicom
03:50
in fact, that the experiment continues to get better,
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da se eksperimenti poboljšavaju
03:53
and, consequently, tends to get faster.
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i samim tim i ubrzavaju.
03:56
This is a little plot, and every time you show a plot,
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Ovo je dijagram, a svaki put
kada pokažete dijagram,
kada pokažete dijagram,
03:57
you lose 10 percent of the audience.
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10% publike vas više ne prati.
03:59
I have 12 of these. (Laughter)
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Imam 12 ovakvih dijagrama.
(Smeh)
(Smeh)
04:01
But what I plotted here is just some metric
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Ovo je metrički dijagram
04:06
that shows how fast we're searching.
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koji pokazuje koliko je brza naša potraga.
04:08
In other words, we're looking for a needle in a haystack.
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Drugim rečima, mi tražimo iglu u plastu sena.
04:10
We know how big the haystack is. It's the galaxy.
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Znamo koliko je veliki taj plast sena
- to je galaksija.
- to je galaksija.
04:13
But we're going through the haystack no longer
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Ali, mi za potragu više ne koristimo
04:15
with a teaspoon but with a skip loader,
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kašicicu već bager
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because of this increase in speed.
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i to je taj veliki napredak u brzini
o kome vam govorim.
o kome vam govorim.
04:20
In fact, those of you who are still conscious
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Oni među vama koji su svesni
04:21
and mathematically competent,
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i matematički potkovani
04:24
will note that this is a semi-log plot.
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će primetiti da je ovo
semi-logaritamski dijagram.
semi-logaritamski dijagram.
04:26
In other words, the rate of increase is exponential.
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Drugim rečima, rast je eksponencijalan.
04:30
It's exponentially improving. Now, exponential is an
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Eksponencijonalno napreduje.
Doduše, reč 'eksponencijalan'
Doduše, reč 'eksponencijalan'
04:33
overworked word. You hear it on the media all the time.
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je prilično otrcana, svaki dan
je čujemo u medijima.
je čujemo u medijima.
04:35
They don't really know what exponential means,
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Oni i ne znaju šta je pravo značenje te reči,
04:37
but this is exponential.
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ali ovo je pravi primer za eksponencijalno.
04:39
In fact, it's doubling every 18 months, and, of course,
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Zapravo, udvostručuje se svakih 18 meseci,
04:42
every card-carrying member of the digerati knows
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a svaki vlasnik digerati kartice zna
04:44
that that's Moore's Law.
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da je to Murov zakon.
04:45
So this means that over the course of the next
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To znači da ćemo za 24 godine
04:48
two dozen years, we'll be able to look at a million star systems,
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moći da gledamo milion zvezdanih sistema,
04:52
a million star systems, looking for signals
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milion zvezdanih sistema
i da tragamo za signalima
i da tragamo za signalima
04:54
that would prove somebody's out there.
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koji će dokazati da neko tamo postoji.
04:55
Well, a million star systems, is that interesting?
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Milion zvezdanih sistema -
zar to nije interesantno?
zar to nije interesantno?
04:58
I mean, how many of those star systems have planets?
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Razmislite, koliko ovih zvezdanih sistema
sadrži planete?
sadrži planete?
05:01
And the facts are, we didn't know the answer to that
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Činjenica je da nismo znali
odgovor na to pitanje
odgovor na to pitanje
05:03
even as recently as 15 years ago, and in fact, we really
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pre samo 15 godina
i zapravo,
i zapravo,
05:05
didn't know it even as recently as six months ago.
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nismo ga znali ni pre 6 meseci.
05:08
But now we do. Recent results suggest
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Ali nam je sada poznat.
Prema skorašnjim rezultatima
Prema skorašnjim rezultatima
05:11
that virtually every star has planets, and more than one.
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svaka od zvezda ima svoje planete
i to više njih.
i to više njih.
05:15
They're like, you know, kittens. You get a litter.
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Slične su mačićima.
Imaju okot.
Imaju okot.
05:18
You don't get one kitten. You get a bunch.
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Ne rađaju se pojedinačno,
već u grupama.
već u grupama.
05:20
So in fact, this is a pretty accurate estimate
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Znači, ovo je prilično tačna procena
05:23
of the number of planets in our galaxy,
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broja planeta u nasoj galaksiji;
05:27
just in our galaxy, by the way,
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samo u našoj galaksiji,
05:29
and I remind the non-astronomy majors among you
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da podsetim one
koji nisu upoznati sa astronomijom -
koji nisu upoznati sa astronomijom -
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that our galaxy is only one of 100 billion
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naša galaksija je samo jedna od 100 milijardi
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that we can see with our telescopes.
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koja je vidljiva pomoću teleskopa.
05:36
That's a lot of real estate, but of course,
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To je ogromna površina, ali naravno,
05:37
most of these planets are going to be kind of worthless,
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većina ovih planeta je nevažna i beskorisna
05:39
like, you know, Mercury, or Neptune.
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poput Merkura i Neptuna.
05:41
Neptune's probably not very big in your life.
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Neptun vam verovatno nije toliko bitan u životu.
05:43
So the question is, what fraction of these planets
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Pitanje je na koliko ovih planeta
05:48
are actually suitable for life?
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je moguć život?
05:49
We don't know the answer to that either,
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Ni na to pitanje ne znamo odgovor,
05:51
but we will learn that answer this year, thanks to
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ali ćemo ga saznati ove godine zahvaljujući
05:53
NASA's Kepler Space Telescope,
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NASA-inom Kepler svemirskom teleskopu
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and in fact, the smart money, which is to say the people who work on this project,
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i ljudima koji ulažu
i rade na ovom projektu.
i rade na ovom projektu.
05:59
the smart money is suggesting that the fraction of planets
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Pretpostavka je da je
06:02
that might be suitable for life is maybe one in a thousand,
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svaka hiljadita planeta pogodna za život
06:06
one in a hundred, something like that.
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ili čak svaka stota, tako nešto.
06:09
Well, even taking the pessimistic estimate, that it's
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Čak i ako uzmemo najnepovoljniju prognozu
u obzir, a to je da
u obzir, a to je da
06:12
one in a thousand, that means that there are
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je svaka hiljadita planeta pogodna za život,
to bi značilo da postoji
to bi značilo da postoji
06:15
at least a billion cousins of the Earth
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najmanje milijarda planeta
koje su slične Zemlji
koje su slične Zemlji
06:17
just in our own galaxy.
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i to samo u našoj galaksiji.
06:19
Okay, now I've given you a lot of numbers here,
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U redu. Dao sam vam puno brojki,
06:21
but they're mostly big numbers, okay, so, you know,
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i to velikih,
06:25
keep that in mind. There's plenty of real estate,
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mislite o tome. To je puno zemljišta,
06:28
plenty of real estate in the universe,
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puno zemljišta u kosmosu.
06:30
and if we're the only bit of real estate in which there's
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Ako je Zemlja jedino zemljište
06:33
some interesting occupants, that makes you a miracle,
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naseljeno interesantnim stanovništvom -
to znači da smo jedno čudo.
to znači da smo jedno čudo.
06:36
and I know you like to think you're a miracle,
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Znam da je lepo misliti da smo čudo,
06:38
but if you do science, you learn rather quickly that
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ali ako bar malo poznajete nauku, znate
06:40
every time you think you're a miracle, you're wrong,
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da svaki put kada pomislite
da ste čudo - grešite.
da ste čudo - grešite.
06:42
so probably not the case.
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Tako da to verovatno nije slučaj.
06:45
All right, so the bottom line is this:
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Zaključak je sledeći:
06:47
Because of the increase in speed, and because of the
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zbog povećanja brzine i zbog
06:50
vast amount of habitable real estate in the cosmos, I figure
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ogromne količine nenaseljenog zemljišta
u kosmosu, procenjujem da
u kosmosu, procenjujem da
06:55
we're going to pick up a signal within two dozen years.
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će signal stići do nas u sledeće 24 godine.
06:57
And I feel strongly enough about that to make a bet with you:
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I verujem u to toliko čvrsto da sam spreman
da se opkladim sa vama:
da se opkladim sa vama:
07:00
Either we're going to find E.T. in the next two dozen years,
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ako ne nađemo vanzemaljce
u sledeće 24 godine,
u sledeće 24 godine,
07:02
or I'll buy you a cup of coffee.
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častiću vas kafom.
07:06
So that's not so bad. I mean, even with two dozen years,
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To nije tako loše.
Ako kroz 24 godine ne naiđete
Ako kroz 24 godine ne naiđete
07:08
you open up your browser and there's news of a signal,
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na vest koja ovo potvrđuje -
07:10
or you get a cup of coffee.
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dobijate kafu na moj račun.
07:12
Now, let me tell you about some aspect of this that
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Sada ću vam govoriti o nečemu o čemu
07:16
people don't think about, and that is,
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ljudi ne razmišljaju, a to je:
07:18
what happens? Suppose that what I say is true.
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šta ako se ovo zaista dogodi?
Pretpostavimo da sam u pravu.
Pretpostavimo da sam u pravu.
07:22
I mean, who knows, but suppose it happens.
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Ko zna, ali, hajde da pretpostavimo
da se dogodi -
da se dogodi -
07:24
Suppose some time in the next two dozen years
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do nas stigne slabi signal
07:25
we pick up a faint line that tells us
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koji nam govori
07:28
we have some cosmic company.
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da nismo sami.
07:29
What is the effect? What's the consequence?
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Koji efekat bi to proizvelo?
Koje bi bile posledice tog saznanja?
Koje bi bile posledice tog saznanja?
07:32
Now, I might be at ground zero for this.
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Sada, iz ove perspektive,
ne bih znao odgovor na to pitanje.
ne bih znao odgovor na to pitanje.
07:34
I happen to know what the consequence for me would be,
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Znam koje bi to posledice
imalo po mene lično,
imalo po mene lično,
07:35
because we've had false alarms. This is 1997,
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jer smo već iskusili lažne uzbune.
Ova fotografija je
Ova fotografija je
07:38
and this is a photo I made at about 3 o'clock in the morning
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iz 1997. godine, nastala u 3 sata ujutru
07:41
in Mountain View here, when we were watching
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u gradu Mauntin Vju u Kaliforniji,
kada smo posmatrali
kada smo posmatrali
07:43
the computer monitors because we had picked up a signal
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kompjuterske monitore
jer smo primili signal
jer smo primili signal
07:45
that we thought, "This is the real deal." All right?
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za koji smo mislili da je autentičan.
07:48
And I kept waiting for the Men in Black to show up. Right?
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Čekao sam da se pojave "ljudi u crnom".
07:51
I kept waiting for -- I kept waiting for my mom to call,
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Čekao sam - čekao sam da me majka nazove,
07:56
somebody to call, the government to call. Nobody called.
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da me neko nazove, da me vlada nazove.
Niko nije pozvao.
Niko nije pozvao.
07:59
Nobody called. I was so nervous
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Niko nije pozvao.
Bio sam toliko nervozan
Bio sam toliko nervozan
08:02
that I couldn't sit down. I just wandered around
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da nisam mogao ni da sedim.
Samo sam šetao okolo
Samo sam šetao okolo
08:04
taking photos like this one, just for something to do.
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i fotografisao, samo da bih radio bilo šta.
08:07
Well, at 9:30 in the morning, with my head down
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I tako, u 9:30 ujutru, dok mi je glava
08:09
on my desk because I obviously hadn't slept all night,
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bila na stolu jer nisam spavao celu noć,
08:11
the phone rings and it's The New York Times.
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telefon je zazvonio i to su bili ljudi
iz Njujork Tajmsa.
iz Njujork Tajmsa.
08:13
And I think there's a lesson in that, and that lesson is
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Iz tog incidenta sam izvukao zaključak
08:16
that if we pick up a signal, the media, the media will be on it
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da ako ikada budemo uhvatili taj signal,
mediji će nam odmah biti na tragu,
mediji će nam odmah biti na tragu,
08:19
faster than a weasel on ball bearings. It's going to be fast.
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brže od vetra. Biće to jako brzo.
08:23
You can be sure of that. No secrecy.
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U to možete biti sigurni.
Nema tajni.
Nema tajni.
08:25
That's what happens to me. It kind of ruins my whole week,
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To bi se recimo, desilo meni u tom slučaju.
Upropastilo bi mi celu nedelju,
Upropastilo bi mi celu nedelju,
08:28
because whatever I've got planned that week is kind of out the window.
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jer bi mi svi planovi za tu nedelju
bili odloženi do daljnjeg.
bili odloženi do daljnjeg.
08:30
But what about you? What's it going to do to you?
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Ali šta je sa vama?
U kakvu bi situaciju to vas dovelo?
U kakvu bi situaciju to vas dovelo?
08:33
And the answer is that we don't know the answer.
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Na to pitanje nemamo odgovor.
08:35
We don't know what that's going to do to you,
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Ne znamo kako bi to uticalo na vas,
08:35
not in the long term, and not even very much in the short term.
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dugoročno ni kratkoročno.
08:39
I mean, that would be a bit like
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To bi bilo kao kada bi pitali
08:41
asking Chris Columbus in 1491, "Hey Chris,
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Kristofera Kolumba 1491. godine:
"Hej, Kris,
"Hej, Kris,
08:45
you know, what happens if it turns out that there's a
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šta bi se dogodilo
kad bi saznali da postoji
kad bi saznali da postoji
08:47
continent between here and Japan, where you're sailing to,
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kontinent između ovog našeg i Japana,
tamo gde ti putuješ?
tamo gde ti putuješ?
08:50
what will be the consequences for humanity
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Koje bi bile posledice po čovečanstvo
08:53
if that turns out to be the case?"
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kada bi se ispostavilo da je tako?"
08:55
And I think Chris would probably offer you some answer
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Mislim da bi vam Kris dao odgovor
08:57
that you might not have understood, but it probably
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koji ne biste razumeli i koji verovatno
09:00
wouldn't have been right, and I think that to predict
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ne bi bio tačan.
Mislim da ne možemo
Mislim da ne možemo
09:02
what finding E.T.'s going to mean,
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predvideti šta bi nam donelo saznanje
09:04
we can't predict that either.
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da vanzemaljci zaista postoje.
09:05
But here are a couple things I can say.
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Ali, ima nekoliko stvari koje vam mogu reći.
09:07
To begin with, it's going to be a society that's way in advance of our own.
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Prvo, to će sigurno biti društvo koje je
isto ili naprednije od našeg.
isto ili naprednije od našeg.
09:11
You're not going to hear from alien Neanderthals.
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Jer, vanzemaljci na nivou Neandertalaca
nam ne bi mogli ni odgovoriti,
nam ne bi mogli ni odgovoriti,
09:13
They're not building transmitters.
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jer ne poseduju odašiljače.
09:14
They're going to be ahead of us, maybe by a few thousand
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Biće napredniji od nas,
nekoliko hiljada godina
nekoliko hiljada godina
09:16
years, maybe by a few millions years, but substantially
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ispred, možda čak i nekoliko miliona godina
ispred nas, ali sigurno napredniji.
ispred nas, ali sigurno napredniji.
09:19
ahead of us, and that means, if you can understand
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Znači, ako bismo razumeli
09:21
anything that they're going to say, then you might be able
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bilo šta što nam oni govore,
to bi nam dalo mogućnost
to bi nam dalo mogućnost
09:25
to short-circuit history by getting information from a society
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da izmenimo istoriju pomoću informacija
koje bismo dobili od društva koje
koje bismo dobili od društva koje
09:28
that's way beyond our own.
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je puno ispred našeg.
09:30
Now, you might find that a bit hyperbolic, and maybe it is,
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Možda vam to deluje preterano,
možda i jeste tako,
možda i jeste tako,
09:33
but nonetheless, it's conceivable that this will happen,
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ali uprkos tome, moguće je zamisliti
da se to može dogoditi.
da se to može dogoditi.
09:35
and, you know, you could consider this like, I don't know,
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To bi bilo kao da recimo,
09:38
giving Julius Caesar English lessons and the key
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Juliju Cezaru dajete časove
engleskog jezika i ključ
engleskog jezika i ključ
09:40
to the library of Congress.
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Kongresne biblioteke.
09:41
It would change his day, all right?
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To bi mu izmenilo život, zar ne?
09:44
That's one thing. Another thing that's for sure
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To je jedno. Druga stvar
koja bi se sigurno mogla dogoditi
koja bi se sigurno mogla dogoditi
09:46
going to happen is that it will calibrate us.
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je da nas to saznanje potpuno izmeni.
09:49
We will know that we're not that miracle, right,
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Tada bismo zasigurno znali
da nismo čudo
da nismo čudo
09:53
that we're just another duck in a row,
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već samo jedni u nizu.
09:55
we're not the only kids on the block, and I think that that's
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Znali bismo da nismo jedini, a to je
09:57
philosophically a very profound thing to learn.
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duboko filozofsko otkriće.
10:00
We're not a miracle, okay?
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Nismo nikakvo čudo, u redu?
10:03
The third thing that it might tell you is somewhat vague,
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Treće, jedna jako bitna
i interesantna stvar,
i interesantna stvar,
10:06
but I think interesting and important,
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iako možda nejasna,
10:08
and that is, if you find a signal coming from a more
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je kada bi do nas došao signal
10:10
advanced society, because they will be,
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iz naprednijeg društva,
što bi oni sigurno bili,
što bi oni sigurno bili,
10:12
that will tell you something about our own possibilities,
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to bi nam otkrilo nešto
o našim mogućnostima,
o našim mogućnostima,
10:15
that we're not inevitably doomed to self-destruction.
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dalo nam nadu da možda
nismo osuđeni na samouništenje.
nismo osuđeni na samouništenje.
10:20
Because they survived their technology,
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Oni su preživeli razvoj svoje tehnologije -
10:22
we could do it too.
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zašto ne bismo i mi?
10:23
Normally when you look out into the universe,
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Kada gledate u kosmos
10:25
you're looking back in time. All right?
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vi zapravo gledate u istoriju,
vremenski unazad. Zar ne?
vremenski unazad. Zar ne?
10:27
That's interesting to cosmologists.
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Ova činjenica je interesantna kosmolozima.
10:29
But in this sense, you actually can look into the future,
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Ali isto tako možete gledati i u budućnost,
10:33
hazily, but you can look into the future.
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doduše kroz maglu, ali možete.
10:35
So those are all the sorts of things that would come from a detection.
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Ovo su neke od posledica koje bi mogle proizići
iz saznanja da vanzemaljci postoje.
iz saznanja da vanzemaljci postoje.
10:40
Now, let me talk a little bit about something that happens
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Sada bih vam govorio o nečemu
što bi se moglo dogoditi
što bi se moglo dogoditi
10:43
even in the meantime, and that is,
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i u međuvremenu.
10:47
SETI, I think, is important, because it's exploration, and
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SETI program je važan
jer predstavlja istraživanje,
jer predstavlja istraživanje,
10:52
it's not only exploration, it's comprehensible exploration.
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i to ne puko istraživanje,
već razumljivo istraživanje.
već razumljivo istraživanje.
10:54
Now, I gotta tell you, I'm always reading books about
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Moram vam reći da ja
često čitam knjige
često čitam knjige
10:57
explorers. I find exploration very interesting,
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o istraživačima.
Istraživanje mi je jako zanimljivo.
Istraživanje mi je jako zanimljivo.
11:00
Arctic exploration, you know, people like Magellan,
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Arktička istraživanja,
ljudi poput Magelana,
ljudi poput Magelana,
11:03
Amundsen, Shackleton, you see Franklin down there,
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Amundsena, Šekltona, Frenklina,
11:06
Scott, all these guys. It's really nifty, exploration.
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Skota i njima slični.
Istraživanje je super.
Istraživanje je super.
11:09
And they're just doing it because they want to explore,
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Oni istražuju iz čiste želje za istraživanjem,
11:11
and you might say, "Oh, that's kind of a frivolous opportunity,"
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pa možete reći: "To je neozbiljno",
ali nije neozbiljno.
ali nije neozbiljno.
11:13
but that's not frivolous. That's not a frivolous activity,
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Istraživanje nije neozbiljna
niti bespotrebna aktivnost,
niti bespotrebna aktivnost,
11:17
because, I mean, think of ants.
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pomislite samo na mrave.
11:19
You know, most ants are programmed to follow one another
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Mravi su programirani
da prate jedan drugog
da prate jedan drugog
11:21
along in a long line, but there are a couple of ants,
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u dugoj koloni.
Ali, postoji nekoliko mrava,
Ali, postoji nekoliko mrava,
11:23
maybe one percent of those ants, that are what they call
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mozda 1% svih mrava, koji su
11:26
pioneer ants, and they're the ones that wander off.
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oportunisti koji odlutaju od kolone.
11:28
They're the ones you find on the kitchen countertop.
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To su oni koje srećete po kuhinji.
11:30
You gotta get them with your thumb before they
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Pre nego što se dohvate vašeg šećera,
11:32
find the sugar or something.
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morate ih vi dohvatiti.
11:33
But those ants, even though most of them get wiped out,
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Ali ti mravi, iako ih većina nastrada,
11:36
those ants are the ones that are essential to the survival
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su najvažniji za opstanak
11:39
of the hive. So exploration is important.
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čitave kolonije.
Znači, istraživanje je veoma bitno.
Znači, istraživanje je veoma bitno.
11:42
I also think that exploration is important in terms of
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Takođe smatram da je istraživanje važno
11:46
being able to address what I think is a critical
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jer može da skrene pažnju
na ono što nedostaje našem društvu,
na ono što nedostaje našem društvu,
11:51
lack in our society, and that is the lack of science literacy,
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što je, po mom mišljenju,
nedostatak naučne pismenosti,
nedostatak naučne pismenosti,
11:54
the lack of the ability to even understand science.
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može se čak reći i nedostatak mogućnosti
da se nauka shvati.
da se nauka shvati.
11:58
Now, look, a lot has been written about the
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Znam da je već dosta toga napisano
12:00
deplorable state of science literacy in this country.
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o nezadovoljavajućem nivou
naučne pismenosti u ovoj zemlji.
naučne pismenosti u ovoj zemlji.
12:03
You've heard about it.
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Sigurno ste čuli za to.
12:06
Well, here's one example, in fact.
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Evo jednog primera.
12:08
Polls taken, this poll was taken 10 years ago.
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Ova anketa je rađena pre 10 godina.
12:10
It shows like roughly one third of the public thinks
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Pokazuje da približno
jedna trećina ispitanika misli
jedna trećina ispitanika misli
12:12
that aliens are not only out there, we're looking for them
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da su vanzemaljci,
12:14
out there, but they're here, right?
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zapravo već tu,
12:16
Sailing the skies in their saucers and occasionally
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krstare nebom u letećim tanjirima
i povremeno
i povremeno
12:18
abducting people for experiments their parents wouldn't approve of.
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otimaju ljude, na njima vrše eksperimente
koje njihovi roditelji ne odobravaju.
koje njihovi roditelji ne odobravaju.
12:21
Well, that would be interesting if it was true,
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To bi bilo interesantno da je istina,
12:24
and job security for me, but I don't think the evidence is
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a ja bih imao sigurno radno mesto,
ali ne mislim da za te tvrdnje
ali ne mislim da za te tvrdnje
12:26
very good. That's more, you know, sad than significant.
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postoje dokazi.
To je više tužno, nego važno, znate.
To je više tužno, nego važno, znate.
12:30
But there are other things that people believe
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Postoje i druge stvari u koje ljudi veruju,
12:32
that are significant, like the efficacy of homeopathy,
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kao što je homeopatija
12:35
or that evolution is just, you know, sort of a crazy idea
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ili da je evolucija samo sumanuta ideja
12:39
by scientists without any legs, or, you know, evolution,
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naučnika bez nogu
12:42
all that sort of thing, or global warming.
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i slične stvari,
poput globalnog zagrevanja.
poput globalnog zagrevanja.
12:44
These sorts of ideas don't really have any validity,
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Ove ideje nemaju
12:48
that you can't trust the scientists.
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nikakvu naučnu potporu.
12:50
Now, we've got to solve that problem, because that's
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Taj problem moramo rešiti, jer je on
12:52
a critically important problem, and you might say,
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od kritičkog značaja,
pa se možemo pitati:
pa se možemo pitati:
12:56
"Well, okay, how are we gonna solve that problem with SETI?"
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"U redu, kako ćemo rešiti
taj problem sa SETI-jem?"
taj problem sa SETI-jem?"
12:59
Well, let me suggest to you that SETI obviously can't
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Moram vam reći da SETI očigledno
ne može rešiti taj problem,
ne može rešiti taj problem,
13:01
solve the problem, but it can address the problem.
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ali može da skrene pažnju na njega.
13:03
It can address the problem by getting young people
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Može zainteresovati mlade
13:06
interested in science. Look, science is hard, it
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za nauku.
Znate, nauka je teška,
Znate, nauka je teška,
13:09
has a reputation of being hard, and the facts are, it is hard,
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ima takvu reputaciju, to je činjenica,
13:12
and that's the result of 400 years of science, right?
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a to je posledica 400 godina nauke,
zar ne?
zar ne?
13:17
I mean, in the 18th century, in the 18th century
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U 18. veku
13:19
you could become an expert on any field of science
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ste mogli postati ekspert
na bilo kom polju nauke
na bilo kom polju nauke
13:22
in an afternoon by going to a library,
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tokom samo jednog
popodneva u biblioteci -
popodneva u biblioteci -
13:25
if you could find the library, right?
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pod uslovom da nađete biblioteku,
zar ne?
zar ne?
13:27
In the 19th century, if you had a basement lab,
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Ako ste imali laboratoriju
u podrumu u 19. veku
u podrumu u 19. veku
13:30
you could make major scientific discoveries
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mogli ste da dođete
do ogromnih naučnih otkrića.
do ogromnih naučnih otkrića.
13:33
in your own home. Right? Because there was all this
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Zar ne? Jer je tada bilo
toliko neotkrivenih stvari koje su
toliko neotkrivenih stvari koje su
13:35
science just lying around waiting for somebody to pick it up.
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samo čekale na naučnike koji će ih otkriti.
13:38
Now, that's not true anymore.
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Sada to više nije tako.
13:40
Today, you've got to spend years in grad school
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Danas moramo da se školujemo godinama,
13:42
and post-doc positions just to figure out what
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i nakon toga da doktoriramo da bi samo
13:46
the important questions are.
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saznali koja su to goruća naučna pitanja.
13:48
It's hard. There's no doubt about it.
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Teško je, nema sumnje.
13:50
And in fact, here's an example: the Higgs boson,
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Evo primera: Higsov bozon,
13:52
finding the Higgs boson.
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otkriće Higsovog bozona.
13:54
Ask the next 10 people you see on the streets,
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Samo upitajte 10 slučajnih prolaznika na ulici:
13:56
"Hey, do you think it's worthwhile to spend billions
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"Hej, mislite li da je vredno
trošiti milijarde švajcarskih
trošiti milijarde švajcarskih
13:58
of Swiss francs looking for the Higgs boson?"
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franaka u potrazi za Higsovim bozonom?"
14:01
And I bet the answer you're going to get, is,
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i mislim da biste dobili sledeći odgovor:
14:03
"Well, I don't know what the Higgs boson is,
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"Ne znam šta je Higsov bozon
14:05
and I don't know if it's important."
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i ne znam da li je uopšte bitan."
14:06
And probably most of the people wouldn't even know
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Verujem da većina tih ljudi ne bi znala
14:08
the value of a Swiss franc, okay?
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ni vrednost švajcarskog franka.
14:10
And yet we're spending billions of Swiss francs on this problem.
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Uprkos tome, mi trošimo
milijarde švajcarskih franaka na ovo otkriće.
milijarde švajcarskih franaka na ovo otkriće.
14:13
Okay? So that doesn't get people interested in science
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Ljudi se zbog toga ne interesuju za nauku
14:15
because they can't comprehend what it's about.
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jer ne shvataju o čemu je reč.
14:17
SETI, on the other hand, is really simple.
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Nasuprot tome, SETI je jako jednostavan.
14:18
We're going to use these big antennas and we're going to
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Koristićemo velike antene
14:20
try to eavesdrop on signals. Everybody can understand that.
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i osluškivaćemo signale.
Svi to mogu da razumeju.
Svi to mogu da razumeju.
14:23
Yes, technologically, it's very sophisticated,
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Tačno je da je sofisticirana tehnologija u pitanju,
14:25
but everybody gets the idea.
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ali svako može da zna o čemu je reč.
14:27
So that's one thing. The other thing is, it's exciting science.
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To je jedno.
Drugo, to je uzbudjiva strana nauke
Drugo, to je uzbudjiva strana nauke
14:31
It's exciting because we're naturally interested
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zato što smo prirodno zainteresovani
14:33
in other intelligent beings, and I think that's
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za druge oblike inteligentnog života i mislim
14:35
part of our hardwiring.
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da smo programirani
da razmišljamo na taj način.
da razmišljamo na taj način.
14:37
I mean, we're hardwired to be interested
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Programirani smo da nas interesuju
14:38
in beings that might be, if you will, competitors,
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bića koja bi mogla biti naši rivali
14:41
or if you're the romantic sort, possibly even mates. Okay?
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ili ako ste romantični, naši partneri.
14:45
I mean, this is analogous to our interest in things that
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To je slično našem interesovanju
za stvari koje
za stvari koje
14:47
have big teeth. Right?
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imaju velike zube, zar ne?
14:49
We're interested in things that have big teeth, and you
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Zanimaju nas stvari koje imaju velike zube
14:50
can see the evolutionary value of that, and you can also see
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i to je uslovljeno evolucijom,
gledajući Animal Planet možete videti
gledajući Animal Planet možete videti
14:53
the practical consequences by watching Animal Planet.
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i praktične posledice tog interesovanja.
14:56
You notice they make very few programs about gerbils.
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Primetićete da ne prave
puno emisija o zamorcima,
puno emisija o zamorcima,
14:59
It's mostly about things that have big teeth.
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već uglavnom o životinjama
koje imaju velike zube.
koje imaju velike zube.
15:01
Okay, so we're interested in these sorts of things.
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Zanimaju nas takve stvari.
15:04
And not just us. It's also kids.
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I ne samo nas. Zanimaju i decu.
15:08
This allows you to pay it forward by using this subject as a
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Ovo saznanje nam omogućava
da ovom temom
da ovom temom
15:11
hook to science, because SETI involves all kinds of science,
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privučemo ljude nauci, jer SETI program
sadrži sve grane nauke:
sadrži sve grane nauke:
15:14
obviously biology, obviously astronomy,
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biologiju, astronomiju,
15:16
but also geology, also chemistry, various scientific
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ali i geologiju i hemiju.
Mnoge naučne
Mnoge naučne
15:20
disciplines all can be presented in the guise of,
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discipline se mogu promovisati
pomoću rečenice:
pomoću rečenice:
15:24
"We're looking for E.T."
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"Mi tragamo za vanzemaljkskim oblicima života."
15:25
So to me this is interesting and important, and in fact,
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Meni je ovo jako interesantno i važno,
jer sam primetio
jer sam primetio
15:29
it's my policy, even though I give a lot of talks to adults,
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da kada držim predavanja odraslima
15:33
you give talks to adults, and two days later they're back where they were.
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kroz par dana su na istom nivou znanja
na kome su bili pre predavanja.
na kome su bili pre predavanja.
15:35
But if you give talks to kids, you know,
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Ali, kada držim predavanja deci, znate,
15:38
one in 50 of them, some light bulb goes off, and they think,
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bar jednom od pedeset
se rodi neka ideja i pomisle:
se rodi neka ideja i pomisle:
15:42
"Gee, I'd never thought of that," and then they go,
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"Bože, nikada mi ovo nije palo na pamet."
Kada odu, onda
Kada odu, onda
15:44
you know, read a book or a magazine or whatever.
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čitaju knjige, časopise,
bilo šta na tu temu.
bilo šta na tu temu.
15:46
They get interested in something.
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Njih nešto zaista može da zainteresuje.
15:48
Now it's my theory, supported only by anecdotal,
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Doduše, ovo je moja lična teorija izvedena
15:53
personal anecdotal evidence, but nonetheless,
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iz ličnog iskustva, ali ipak,
15:55
that kids get interested in something between the ages
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u toj deci se rodi interesovanje
za nešto u uzrastu između
za nešto u uzrastu između
15:57
of eight and 11. You've got to get them there.
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osme i jedanaeste godine.
Morate im se tada obratiti.
Morate im se tada obratiti.
16:00
So, all right, I give talks to adults, that's fine, but I try
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Ja i dalje držim predavanja odraslima
i to je u redu, ali se trudim
i to je u redu, ali se trudim
16:02
and make 10 percent of the talks that I give,
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da bar 10% od svih mojih predavanja budu
16:05
I try and make those for kids.
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za decu.
16:07
I remember when a guy came to our high school, actually,
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Sećam se kada sam išao u srednju školu
i jedan čovek je došao u našu školu.
i jedan čovek je došao u našu školu.
16:10
it was actually my junior high school. I was in sixth grade.
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Bio sam tada u šestom razredu.
16:13
And he gave some talk. All I remember from it
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Taj čovek nam je držao predavanje.
Jedina reč koje se sećam iz tog celog
Jedina reč koje se sećam iz tog celog
16:15
was one word: electronics.
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predavanja je bila: elektronika.
16:17
It was like Dustin Hoffman in "The Graduate," right,
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Bilo je kao u filmu
sa Dastinom Hofmanom, "Diplomac"
sa Dastinom Hofmanom, "Diplomac"
16:19
when he said "plastics," whatever that means, plastics.
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kada on kaže "plastika",
šta god to značilo - plastika.
šta god to značilo - plastika.
16:22
All right, so the guy said electronics. I don't remember
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Taj čovek je rekao ''elektronika.''
Ne sećam se ničega više
Ne sećam se ničega više
16:24
anything else. In fact, I don't remember anything
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od te reči.
Zapravo, ne sećam se ničega
Zapravo, ne sećam se ničega
16:26
that my sixth grade teacher said all year,
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što je moj učitelj predavao cele godine,
16:28
but I remember electronics.
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ali se jasno sećam elektronike.
16:30
And so I got interested in electronics, and you know,
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Tako sam se zainteresovao za elektroniku,
pa sam
pa sam
16:32
I studied to get my ham license. I was wiring up stuff.
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tako i učio za svoju amatersku radio licencu.
Prespajao sam žice i kablove.
Prespajao sam žice i kablove.
16:35
Here I am at about 15 or something, doing that sort of stuff.
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Imao sam 15 godina
i bavio se takvim stvarima.
i bavio se takvim stvarima.
16:38
Okay? That had a big effect on me.
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Taj događaj je jako uticao na mene.
16:39
So that's my point, that you can have a big effect
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To je ono na šta sam želeo
da vam skrenem pažnju -
da vam skrenem pažnju -
16:41
on these kids.
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mi možemo uticati na tu decu.
16:44
In fact, this reminds me, I don't know, a couple years ago
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Ovo me je podsetilo na to
kada sam pre par godina
kada sam pre par godina
16:47
I gave a talk at a school in Palo Alto
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držao predavanje u školi u Palo Altu
16:51
where there were about a dozen 11-year-olds
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pred oko 12 jedanaestogodisnjaka
16:53
that had come to this talk.
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koji su došli da me slušaju.
16:54
I had been brought in to talk to these kids for an hour.
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Moje predavanje je trajalo oko sat vremena.
16:56
Eleven-year-olds, they're all sitting in a little semi-circle
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Jedanaestogodišnjaci sede u polukrugu
16:58
looking up at me with big eyes, and I started,
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i gledaju me široko otvorenih očiju
i ja počinjem svoje predavanje.
i ja počinjem svoje predavanje.
17:01
there was a white board behind me, and I started off
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Tabla je bila iza mene
i na njoj sam napisao
i na njoj sam napisao
17:02
by writing a one with 22 zeroes after it, and I said,
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jedinicu i 22 nule iza nje i rekao im:
17:05
"All right, now look, this is the number of stars
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"Gledajte, ovo je broj zvezda
17:07
in the visible universe, and this number is so big
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u vidljivom delu svemira
i taj broj je toliko veliki
i taj broj je toliko veliki
17:10
there's not even a name for it."
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da za njega čak ni ime ne postoji."
17:14
And one of these kids shot up his hand, and he said,
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Jedno dete je diglo ruku i reklo:
17:16
"Well, actually there is a name for it.
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"U stvari, ime za taj broj postoji.
17:18
It's a sextra-quadra-hexa-something or other." Right?
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Zove se sekstra-kvadra-heksa
nešto ili nekako drugačije."
nešto ili nekako drugačije."
17:21
Now, that kid was wrong by four orders of magnitude,
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Dete je pogrešilo za četiri reda veličine,
17:25
but there was no doubt about it, these kids were smart.
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ali nije bilo sumnje -
ova deca su pametna.
ova deca su pametna.
17:27
Okay? So I stopped giving the lecture.
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Prekinuo sam predavanje.
17:29
All they wanted to do was ask questions.
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Oni su samo želeli da postavljaju pitanja.
17:32
In fact, my last comments to these kids, at the end I said,
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Na kraju sam rekao ovoj deci:
17:36
"You know, you kids are smarter
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"Znate, deco, vi ste pametniji
17:38
than the people I work with." Now — (Laughter)
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od ljudi sa kojima radim."
(Smeh)
(Smeh)
17:43
They didn't even care about that.
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Njih nije ni bilo briga za to.
17:44
What they wanted was my email address
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Sve sto su mi tražili
je bila moja imejl adresa
je bila moja imejl adresa
17:47
so they could ask me more questions. (Laughter)
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kako bi mogli da mi postavljaju još pitanja.
(Smeh)
(Smeh)
17:51
Let me just say, look, my job is a privilege
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Još bih dodao da smatram
da je moj posao privilegija
da je moj posao privilegija
17:54
because we're in a special time.
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jer živimo u posebnom dobu.
17:55
Previous generations couldn't do this experiment at all.
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Prethodne generacije nisu nikako mogle
da vrše ovaj eksperiment.
da vrše ovaj eksperiment.
17:58
In another generation down the line,
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Sledeća generacija nakon naše
18:00
I think we will have succeeded.
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će sigurno uspeti.
18:02
So to me, it is a privilege, and when I look in the mirror,
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To je za mene privilegija.
Kada se pogledam u ogledalo
Kada se pogledam u ogledalo
18:05
the facts are that I really don't see myself.
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ja zapravo ne vidim sebe.
18:08
What I see is the generation behind me.
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Vidim buduću generaciju.
18:10
These are some kids from the Huff School, fourth graders.
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Vidim decu iz četvrtog razreda škole Haf
18:12
I talked there, what, two weeks ago, something like that.
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kojima sam držao predavanje
pre dve nedelje.
pre dve nedelje.
18:15
I think that if you can instill some interest in science
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Mislim da će nam nagrada
tek doći ako uspemo
tek doći ako uspemo
18:19
and how it works, well, that's a payoff
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da u toj deci probudimo
interesovanje za nauku
interesovanje za nauku
18:22
beyond easy measure. Thank you very much.
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i način na koji ona funkcioniše.
Hvala vam puno.
Hvala vam puno.
18:25
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Seth Shostak - AstronomerSeth Shostak is an astronomer, alien hunter and bulwark of good, exciting science.
Why you should listen
Seth Shostak is the Senior Astronomer at the SETI Institute in Mountain View, California. Inspired by a book about the solar system he read at the age of ten, he began his career with a degree in physics from Princeton University and a PhD in astronomy from the California Institute of Technology before working with radio telescopes in the US and the Netherlands to uncover how the universe will end. In 1999, he produced twelve 30-minute lectures on audio-tape and video titled "The Search for Intelligent Life in Space" for the Teaching Company and has hosted SETI’s Big Picture Science podcast since 2002. In 2010, he was elected as a Fellow of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and is the Chair of the International Academy of Astronautics SETI Permanent Study Group. He has published four books, nearly 300 popular articles on astronomy, technology, film and television and gives frequent talks to both young and adult audiences.
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