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Azim Khamisa and Ples Felix: What comes after tragedy? Forgiveness
Azim Kamisa, Ples Feliks (Azim Khamisa, Ples Felix): Šta dolazi posle tragedije? Oproštaj
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Jedne grozne noći 1995. godine, četrnaestogodišnji unuk Plesa Feliksa ubio je sina Azima Kamise u inicijaciji bande uz podsticaj droga, alkohola i lažnog osećanja pripadnosti. Ovaj smrtonosni susret je poslao Kamisu i Feliksa na put duboke meditacije, da bi oprostili i da bi im bilo oprošteno, i u činu hrabrosti i pomirenja, njih dvojica su se sreli i formirali trajnu povezanost. Zajedno su upotrebili svoju priču kao okvir za bolje, milosrdnije društvo, u kome žrtve tragedije mogu da se razvijaju i zaleče rane. Pripremite se da vas dotakne njihova nezamisliva priča. „Mir je moguć“, kaže Kamisa. „Kako to znam? Zato što sam ja u miru.“
Azim Khamisa - Author, peace activist
Azim Khamisa speaks to students and adults on nonviolence, forgiveness and peace-building, and he is a founder of two nonprofit organizations that target youth violence. Full bioPles Felix - Peace activist
Ples Felix is a leader in the Tariq Khamisa Foundation, dedicated to helping stop youth violence. Full bio
Azim Khamisa speaks to students and adults on nonviolence, forgiveness and peace-building, and he is a founder of two nonprofit organizations that target youth violence. Full bioPles Felix - Peace activist
Ples Felix is a leader in the Tariq Khamisa Foundation, dedicated to helping stop youth violence. Full bio
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00:13
Azim Khamisa: We humans
have many defining moments in our lives.
have many defining moments in our lives.
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Azim Kamisa: Mi, ljudi, u životu imamo
mnogo trenutaka koji nas definišu.
mnogo trenutaka koji nas definišu.
00:18
Sometimes these moments are joyous,
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Ponekad su ti trenuci radosni,
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and sometimes they are heartbreaking,
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a ponekad uznemiruju,
00:23
tragic.
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tragični su.
00:25
But at these defining moments,
if we are able to make the right choice,
if we are able to make the right choice,
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Ali u ovim definišućim momentima,
ako smo u stanju da donesemo pravu odluku,
ako smo u stanju da donesemo pravu odluku,
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we literally manifest a miracle
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bukvalno manifestujemo čudo
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in us and others.
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u sebi i drugima.
00:37
My only son Tariq, a university student,
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Moj sin jedinac Tarik, student,
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kind, generous, a good writer,
a good photographer,
a good photographer,
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prijatan, darežljiv,
dobar pisac, dobar fotograf,
dobar pisac, dobar fotograf,
00:44
had aspirations
to work for National Geographic,
to work for National Geographic,
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imao je ambicije da radi
za Nacionalnu geografiju,
za Nacionalnu geografiju,
00:47
engaged to a beautiful lady,
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bio je veren sa prelepom damom,
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worked as a pizza deliveryman
on Fridays and Saturdays.
on Fridays and Saturdays.
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radio je kao dostavljač pice
petkom i subotom.
petkom i subotom.
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He was lured to a bogus address
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Namamila ga je na lažnu adresu
omladinska banda.
omladinska banda.
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by a youth gang.
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And in a gang initiation,
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U okviru inicijacije bande,
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a 14-year-old shot and killed him.
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četrnaestogodišnjak je pucao i ubio ga.
01:06
The sudden, senseless death
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Iznenadna, besmislena smrt
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of an innocent, unarmed human being;
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nevinog, nenaoružanog ljudskog bića;
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the overwhelming grief of a family;
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ogromna tuga porodice;
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the total confusion as you try
to absorb a new, hideous reality.
to absorb a new, hideous reality.
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potpuna konfuzija dok pokušavate
da apsorbujete novu, groznu stvarnost.
da apsorbujete novu, groznu stvarnost.
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Needless to say it brought
my life to a crashing halt.
my life to a crashing halt.
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Da ne pominjem da je to skrhalo moj život.
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One of the hardest things
I've ever had to do
I've ever had to do
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Jedna od najtežih stvari
koje sam morao da uradim
koje sam morao da uradim
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was to call his mother,
who lived in a different city.
who lived in a different city.
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je da pozovem njegovu majku
koja je živela u drugom gradu.
koja je živela u drugom gradu.
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How do you tell a mother
she's never going to see her son again,
she's never going to see her son again,
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Kako reći majci da nikada više
neće videti svog sina,
neće videti svog sina,
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or hear him laugh,
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čuti ga kako se smeje,
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or give him a hug?
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zagrliti ga?
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I practice as a Sufi Muslim.
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Upražnjavam veru kao musliman sufista.
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I meditate two hours a day.
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Meditiram dva sata dnevno.
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And sometimes,
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Ponekad,
01:48
in deep trauma and deep tragedy,
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u trenucima duboke traume i tragedije,
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there is a spark of clarity.
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javi se iskra jasnoće.
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So what I downloaded in my meditation
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Ono što sam izvukao kroz svoju meditaciju
01:58
is that there were victims
at both ends of the gun.
at both ends of the gun.
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je da su žrtve postojale
sa obe strane pištolja.
sa obe strane pištolja.
02:02
It's easy to see that my son
was a victim of the 14-year-old,
was a victim of the 14-year-old,
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Lako je videti da je moj sin
bio žrtva tog četrnaestogodišnjaka,
bio žrtva tog četrnaestogodišnjaka,
02:06
a little bit complicated to see
that he was a victim of American society.
that he was a victim of American society.
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a malo je komplikovanije videti
da je on žrtva američkog društva.
da je on žrtva američkog društva.
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And that begs the question,
well, who is American society?
well, who is American society?
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A to povlači sa sobom pitanje:
pa, ko predstavlja američko društvo?
pa, ko predstavlja američko društvo?
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Well, it's you and me,
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Pa, to smo vi i ja,
02:16
because I don't believe
that society is just happenstance.
that society is just happenstance.
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jer ne mislim da je društvo
prosto stvar slučaja.
prosto stvar slučaja.
02:20
I think we are all responsible
for the society we've created.
for the society we've created.
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Mislim da smo svi mi odgovorni
za društvo koje smo stvorili.
za društvo koje smo stvorili.
02:25
And children killing children
is not a mark of a civil society.
is not a mark of a civil society.
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A deca koja ubijaju decu
nisu znak građanskog društva.
nisu znak građanskog društva.
02:30
So nine months after Tariq died,
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Devet meseci nakon što je Tarik umro
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I started the Tariq Khamisa Foundation
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osnovao sam fondaciju Tarik Kamisa,
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and our mandate
at the Tariq Khamisa Foundation
at the Tariq Khamisa Foundation
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i naša je obaveza u fondaciji Tarik Kamisa
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is to stop kids from killing kids
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da sprečimo da deca ubijaju decu
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by breaking the cycle of youth violence.
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tako što prekidamo ciklus
nasilja među mladima.
nasilja među mladima.
02:43
And essentially we have three mandates.
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U suštini imamo tri misije.
02:45
Our first and foremost
is to save lives of children.
is to save lives of children.
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Prva i najvažnija
je da spasimo živote dece.
je da spasimo živote dece.
02:50
It's important to do.
We lose so many on a daily basis.
We lose so many on a daily basis.
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Važno je da to uradimo.
Toliko njih izgubimo svakoga dana.
Toliko njih izgubimo svakoga dana.
02:54
Our second mandate
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Naša druga misija
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is to empower the right choices
so kids don't fall through the cracks
so kids don't fall through the cracks
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je da učvrstimo prave odluke
tako da kod dece ne dođe do propusta
tako da kod dece ne dođe do propusta
03:01
and choose lives of gangs and crime
and drugs and alcohol and weapons.
and drugs and alcohol and weapons.
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i da odaberu život bandi,
kriminala, droga, alkohola i oružja.
kriminala, droga, alkohola i oružja.
03:06
And our third mandate is to teach
the principles of nonviolence,
the principles of nonviolence,
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A naša treća misija je da podučavamo
principima nenasilja,
principima nenasilja,
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of empathy, of compassion,
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empatije, saosećanja, oproštaja.
03:15
of forgiveness.
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And I started with a very simple premise
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Počeo sam vrlo jednostavnom premisom
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that violence is a learned behavior.
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da je nasilje naučeno ponašanje.
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No child was born violent.
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Nijedno dete nije rođeno nasilno.
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If you accept that as a truism,
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Ako prihvatite to kao nešto
što se podrazumeva,
što se podrazumeva,
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nonviolence can also be
a learned behavior,
a learned behavior,
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nenasilje takođe može biti
naučeno ponašanje,
naučeno ponašanje,
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but you have to teach it,
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ali morate podučavati tome,
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because kids are not going to learn that
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jer deca to neće naučiti
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through osmosis.
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kroz izloženost.
03:36
Soon after that,
I reached out to my brother here,
I reached out to my brother here,
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Ubrzo potom sam se obratio
svom bratu ovde,
svom bratu ovde,
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with the attitude
that we had both lost a son.
that we had both lost a son.
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kroz poziciju zajedničkog gubitka sina.
Moj sin je umro.
03:43
My son died.
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On je izgubio svog unuka
kroz zatvorski sistem za odrasle.
kroz zatvorski sistem za odrasle.
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He lost his grandson
to the adult prison system.
to the adult prison system.
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Pitao sam ga da mi se pridruži.
03:47
And I asked him to join me.
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03:48
As you see, 22 years later,
we are still here together,
we are still here together,
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Kao što vidite, 22 godine kasnije,
još smo ovde zajedno,
još smo ovde zajedno,
03:53
because I can't bring Tariq
back from the dead,
back from the dead,
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jer ja ne mogu da vratim Tarika iz mrtvih,
03:55
you can't take Tony out of prison,
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ti ne možeš da izvučeš Tonija iz zatvora,
03:58
but the one thing we can do
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ali ono što možemo je da se postaramo
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is make sure no other young people
in our community
in our community
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da nijedna druga mlada osoba
iz naše zajednice
iz naše zajednice
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end up dead or end up in prison.
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ne završi mrtva ili u zatvoru.
04:06
With the grace of God,
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Uz božju pomoć,
04:07
the Tariq Khamisa Foundation
has been successful.
has been successful.
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Fondacija Tarika Kamise bila je uspešna.
04:10
We have a safe school model
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Imamo model bezbedne škole
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which has four different programs.
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koji ima četiri različita programa.
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The first one is a live assembly
with Ples and me.
with Ples and me.
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Prvi je sastanak uživo
sa Plesom i sa mnom.
sa Plesom i sa mnom.
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We are introduced,
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Predstave nas -
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this man's grandson killed this man's son,
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unuk ovog čoveka ubio je sina ovog čoveka
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and here they are together.
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i ovde su zajedno.
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We have in-classroom curriculum.
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Imamo nastavni program u okviru učionice.
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We have an after school mentoring program,
and we create a peace club.
and we create a peace club.
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Imamo mentorski program posle škole
i pravimo klub mira.
i pravimo klub mira.
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And I'm happy to share with you
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Sa zadovoljstvom ću vam reći
04:31
that besides teaching
these principles of nonviolence,
these principles of nonviolence,
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da smo pored podučavanja
ovim principima nenasilja
ovim principima nenasilja
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we are able to cut suspensions
and expulsions by 70 percent,
and expulsions by 70 percent,
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uspeli da smanjimo
privremena isključivanja
privremena isključivanja
i izbacivanja iz škole za 70 posto,
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which is huge.
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što je velika stvar.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
04:43
Which is huge.
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Što je velika stvar.
04:45
Five years after Tariq died,
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Pet godina nakon što je Tarik umro,
04:47
and for me to complete
my journey of forgiveness,
my journey of forgiveness,
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da bih završio svoje putovanje oproštaja,
04:50
I went to see the young man
who killed my son.
who killed my son.
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otišao sam da vidim mladića
koji je ubio mog sina.
koji je ubio mog sina.
04:53
He was 19 years old.
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Imao je 19 godina.
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And I remember that meeting
because we were --
because we were --
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Sećam se tog susreta jer smo -
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he's 37, still in prison --
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on ima 37 godina, još je u zatvoru -
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but at that first meeting,
we locked eyeballs.
we locked eyeballs.
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ali pri tom prvom susretu
gledali smo se netremice.
gledali smo se netremice.
05:04
I'm looking in his eyes,
he's looking in my eyes,
he's looking in my eyes,
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Gledam ga u oči, gleda on mene u oči,
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and I'm looking in his eyes
trying to find a murderer, and I didn't.
trying to find a murderer, and I didn't.
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i gledam u njegove oči pokušavajući
da nađem ubicu, ali nisam.
da nađem ubicu, ali nisam.
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I was able to climb through his eyes
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Uspeo sam da prodrem kroz njegove oči
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and touch his humanity that I got
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i doprem do njegove ljudskosti
koju sam spoznao,
koju sam spoznao,
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that the spark in him
was no different than the spark in me
was no different than the spark in me
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da se iskra u njemu
ne razlikuje od iskre u meni
ne razlikuje od iskre u meni
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or anybody else here.
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niti u bilo kome drugom ovde.
05:21
So I wasn't expecting that.
He was remorseful.
He was remorseful.
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To nisam očekivao. Kajao se.
05:23
He was articulate. He was well-mannered.
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Bio je rečit. Bio je učtiv.
05:25
And I could tell that my hand
of forgiveness had changed him.
of forgiveness had changed him.
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Video sam da ga je promenila
moja ruka oproštaja.
moja ruka oproštaja.
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So with that, please welcome
my brother, Ples.
my brother, Ples.
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Molim vas da poželite
dobrodošlicu mom bratu Plesu.
dobrodošlicu mom bratu Plesu.
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(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
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Ples Felix: Tony is my one
and only daughter's one and only child.
and only daughter's one and only child.
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Ples Feliks: Toni je prvo
i jedino dete moje ćerke.
i jedino dete moje ćerke.
05:44
Tony was born to my daughter,
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Tonija je rodila moja ćerka
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who was 15 when she gave birth to Tony.
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koja je tada imala 15 godina.
05:50
Mothering is the toughest
job on the planet.
job on the planet.
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Majčinstvo je najteži posao na svetu.
05:54
There is no tougher job on the planet
than raising another human being
than raising another human being
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Nema težeg posla na svetu
od podizanja drugog ljudskog bića
od podizanja drugog ljudskog bića
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and making sure they're safe, secure
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i staranja o tome da je sigurno, bezbedno
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and well-positioned
to be successful in life.
to be successful in life.
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i u dobroj situaciji
da bude uspešno u životu.
da bude uspešno u životu.
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Tony experienced a lot of violence
in his life as a young kid.
in his life as a young kid.
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Toni je doživeo mnogo nasilja
u svom životu kada je bio mali.
u svom životu kada je bio mali.
Video je kako su ubili
jednog od njegovih omiljenih rođaka
jednog od njegovih omiljenih rođaka
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He saw one of his favorite cousins
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06:10
be murdered in a hail
of automatic weapon fire
of automatic weapon fire
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paljbom iz automatskog oružja
06:13
and gang involvement in Los Angeles.
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u kojoj je bila umešana
banda u Los Anđelesu.
banda u Los Anđelesu.
06:15
He was very traumatized
in so many different ways.
in so many different ways.
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Bio je veoma traumiran
na toliko različitih načina.
na toliko različitih načina.
Toni je došao da živi sa mnom.
06:19
Tony came to live with me.
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06:20
I wanted to make sure
he had everything a kid needed
he had everything a kid needed
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Hteo sam da se postaram
da ima sve što je detetu potrebno
da ima sve što je detetu potrebno
06:23
to be successful.
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da bi bilo uspešno.
06:27
But on this particular evening,
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Ali, te konkretne večeri,
nakon godina koje je proveo sa mnom
i silne borbe da bude uspešan
i silne borbe da bude uspešan
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after years of being with me
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06:30
and struggling mightily
to try to be successful
to try to be successful
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06:33
and to live up to my expectations
of being a successful person,
of being a successful person,
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i da ispuni moja očekivanja
da bude uspešna osoba,
da bude uspešna osoba,
06:37
on this one particular day,
Tony ran away from home that evening,
Tony ran away from home that evening,
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tog konkretnog dana,
Toni je uveče pobegao od kuće.
Toni je uveče pobegao od kuće.
Otišao je da bude sa ljudima
za koje je mislio da su mu drugovi,
za koje je mislio da su mu drugovi,
06:40
he went to be with people
he thought were his friends,
he thought were his friends,
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06:43
he was given drugs and alcohol
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dali su mu drogu i alkohol
06:45
and he took them
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i on je prihvatio
06:46
because he thought
they would make him feel carefree.
they would make him feel carefree.
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jer je mislio da će od njih
biti bezbrižan.
biti bezbrižan.
06:49
But all it did was
to make his anxiety go higher
to make his anxiety go higher
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Ali od toga se samo povećala
njegova anksioznost
njegova anksioznost
06:53
and to create a more ...
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i kod njega je nastalo još...
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more deadly thinking on his part.
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još kobnije razmišljanje.
07:01
He was invited to a robbery,
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Pozvali su ga u pljačku,
07:02
he was given a 9mm handgun.
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dali mu pištolj od 9 mm.
07:05
And at the presence
of an 18-year-old who commanded him
of an 18-year-old who commanded him
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I u prisustvu mladića od 18 godina
koji mu je naređivao
koji mu je naređivao
07:08
and two 14-year-old boys
he thought were his friends,
he thought were his friends,
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i dvojice dečaka od 14 godina
za koje je mislio da su mu drugovi,
za koje je mislio da su mu drugovi,
07:11
he shot and killed Tariq Khamisa,
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pucao je u Tarika Kamisu i ubio ga,
07:14
this man's son.
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sina ovog čoveka.
07:19
There are no words, there are no words
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Nema reči, ne postoje reči
07:22
that can express the loss of a child.
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koje mogu da opišu gubitak deteta.
07:27
At my understanding
that my grandson was responsible
that my grandson was responsible
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Kada sam shvatio da je moj unuk odgovoran
07:29
for the murder of this human being,
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za ubistvo ovog ljudskog bića,
07:31
I went to the prayer closet,
like I was taught by my old folks,
like I was taught by my old folks,
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otišao sam u odaju za molitve,
kao što su me učili moji stari,
kao što su me učili moji stari,
07:34
and began to pray and meditate.
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i počeo da se molim i meditiram.
07:36
The one thing that Mr. Khamisa
and I have in common,
and I have in common,
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Ono što gospodin Kamisa
i ja imamo zajedničko,
i ja imamo zajedničko,
07:39
and we didn't know this,
besides being wonderful human beings,
besides being wonderful human beings,
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a to nismo znali,
osim što smo sjajna ljudska bića,
osim što smo sjajna ljudska bića,
je to da obojica meditiramo.
07:42
is that we both meditate.
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07:43
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
07:44
It was very helpful for me
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To mi je bilo jako korisno
07:46
because it offered me an opportunity
to seek guidance and clarity
to seek guidance and clarity
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jer mi je dalo mogućnost
da nađem smernice i jasnost
da nađem smernice i jasnost
07:49
about how I wanted to be of support
of this man and his family in this loss.
of this man and his family in this loss.
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u pogledu toga kako hoću da budem podrška
u gubitku ovom čoveku u njegovoj porodici.
u gubitku ovom čoveku u njegovoj porodici.
07:55
And sure enough, my prayers were answered,
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I zasigurno, moje molitve su uslišene,
07:57
because I was invited
to a meeting at this man's house,
to a meeting at this man's house,
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jer sam pozvan na okupljanje
u kući ovog čoveka,
u kući ovog čoveka,
08:00
met his mother, his father,
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upoznao njegovu majku, oca,
08:03
his wife, his brother, met their family
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ženu, brata, upoznao njihovu porodicu
08:06
and had a chance to be in the presence
of God-spirited people led by this man,
of God-spirited people led by this man,
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i imao priliku da budem u prisustvu ljudi
božjeg duha koje predvodi ovaj čovek,
božjeg duha koje predvodi ovaj čovek,
08:11
who in the spirit of forgiveness,
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a koji mi je u duhu oproštaja
08:14
made way, made an opportunity for me
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otvorio put, pružio mogućnost
08:17
to be of value and to share with him
and to share with children
and to share with children
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da budem od koristi,
da podelim sa njime i sa decom
da podelim sa njime i sa decom
08:20
the importance of understanding the need
to be with a responsible adult,
to be with a responsible adult,
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značaj shvatanja potrebe
da budu uz odgovornu odraslu osobu,
da budu uz odgovornu odraslu osobu,
08:25
focus on your anger
in a way that's healthy,
in a way that's healthy,
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da se fokusiraju na svoj bes
na zdrav način,
na zdrav način,
08:28
learn to meditate.
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da nauče da meditiraju.
08:29
The programs that we have
in the Tariq Khamisa Foundation
in the Tariq Khamisa Foundation
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Programi koje imamo
u Fondaciji Tarika Kamise
u Fondaciji Tarika Kamise
08:32
provide so many tools
for the kids to put in their toolkit
for the kids to put in their toolkit
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pružaju toliko sredstava
koja deca mogu imati na raspolaganju
koja deca mogu imati na raspolaganju
08:35
so they could carry them
throughout their lives.
throughout their lives.
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tako da ih nose sa sobom
tokom celog života.
tokom celog života.
08:38
It's important that our children
understand that loving, caring adults
understand that loving, caring adults
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Važno je da naša deca razumeju
da je brižnim odraslima punim ljubavi
da je brižnim odraslima punim ljubavi
08:41
care for them and support them,
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stalo do njih i da ih podržavaju,
08:43
but it's also important
that our children learn to meditate,
that our children learn to meditate,
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ali je takođe važno da naša deca
nauče da meditiraju,
nauče da meditiraju,
08:47
learn to be peaceful,
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da nauče da budu staložena,
08:49
learn to be centered
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da budu uravnotežena
08:50
and learn to interact
with the other children
with the other children
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i da komuniciraju sa drugom decom
08:52
in a kind, empathetic
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na ljubazan, empatičan način
08:54
and wonderfully loving way.
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i sa puno ljubavi.
08:56
We need more love in our society
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Potrebno nam je više ljubavi u društvu
08:58
and that's why we are here
to share the love with children,
to share the love with children,
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i zato smo ovde
da podelimo ljubav sa decom,
da podelimo ljubav sa decom,
09:01
because our children
will lead the way for us,
will lead the way for us,
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jer naša deca će nas voditi,
09:04
because all of us
will depend on our children.
will depend on our children.
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jer svi zavisimo od naše dece.
09:07
As we grow older and retire,
they will take over this world for us,
they will take over this world for us,
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Kada mi ostarimo i penzionišemo se,
oni će preuzeti svet umesto nas,
oni će preuzeti svet umesto nas,
09:10
so as much love as we teach them,
they will give it back to us.
they will give it back to us.
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tako da će nam vratiti onoliko ljubavi
koliko ih mi naučimo.
koliko ih mi naučimo.
09:14
Blessings. Thank you.
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Šaljem vam blagoslov. Hvala.
09:15
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
09:22
AK: So I was born in Kenya,
I was educated in England,
I was educated in England,
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AK: Rođen sam u Keniji,
školovao sam se u Engleskoj,
školovao sam se u Engleskoj,
09:26
and my brother here is a Baptist.
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a moj brat ovde je baptista.
09:28
I practice as a Sufi Muslim.
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Ponašam se kao musliman sufija.
09:31
He's African American,
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On je Afroamerikanac,
09:32
but I always tell him,
I'm the African American in the group.
I'm the African American in the group.
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ali uvek mu kažem da sam ja
Afroamerikanac u ekipi.
Afroamerikanac u ekipi.
Rođen sam u Africi. Ti nisi.
09:35
I was born in Africa. You were not.
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09:37
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:39
And I naturalized as a citizen.
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I prihvatio sam državljanstvo.
09:41
I'm a first-generation citizen.
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Iz prve sam generacije državljana.
09:43
And I felt that, as an American citizen,
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I smatrao sam da,
kao američki državljanin,
kao američki državljanin,
09:47
I must take my share of the responsibility
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moram preuzeti svoj deo odgovornosti
09:50
for the murder of my son.
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za ubistvo svog sina.
09:53
Why? Because it was fired
by an American child.
by an American child.
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Zašto? Zato što je pucalo američko dete.
Možete zauzeti poziciju da ga,
pošto je ubio mog sina jedinca,
pošto je ubio mog sina jedinca,
09:57
You could take the position,
he killed my one and only son,
he killed my one and only son,
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10:00
he should be hung from the highest pole.
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treba obesiti sa najvišeg stuba.
10:03
How does that improve society?
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Kako to poboljšava društvo?
10:06
And I know you are probably wondering
what happened to that young man.
what happened to that young man.
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Znam da se verovatno pitate
šta se desilo sa tim mladićem.
šta se desilo sa tim mladićem.
10:10
He's still in prison.
He just turned 37 on September 22,
He just turned 37 on September 22,
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Još uvek je u zatvoru.
Upravo je napunio 37 godina
22. septembra, ali imam dobre vesti.
22. septembra, ali imam dobre vesti.
10:15
but I have some good news.
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10:17
We've been trying
to get him out for 12 years.
to get him out for 12 years.
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Dvanaest godina pokušavamo
da ga izvučemo napolje.
da ga izvučemo napolje.
10:20
He finally will join us a year from now.
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Konačno će nam se pridružiti
za godinu dana.
za godinu dana.
10:23
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
10:30
And I'm very excited to have him join us,
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Vrlo sam uzbuđen što će nam se pridružiti,
10:33
because I know we've saved him,
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jer znam da smo ga spasili,
10:35
but he will save
tens of thousands of students
tens of thousands of students
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ali spasićemo desetine hiljada učenika
10:38
when he shares his testimony
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kada on iznese svoj iskaz
10:41
in schools that we are present at
on a regular basis.
on a regular basis.
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u školama u kojima smo stalno prisutni.
10:44
When he says to the kids,
"When I was 11, I joined a gang.
"When I was 11, I joined a gang.
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Kada kaže deci: „Kada sam imao 11 godina,
priključio sam se bandi.
priključio sam se bandi.
10:47
When I was 14,
I murdered Mr. Khamisa's son.
I murdered Mr. Khamisa's son.
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Sa 14 godina, ubio sam sina
gospodina Kamise.
gospodina Kamise.
10:50
I've spent the last
umpteen years in prison.
umpteen years in prison.
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Proveo sam poslednjih
mnogo godina u zatvoru.
mnogo godina u zatvoru.
10:53
I'm here to tell you: it's not worth it,"
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Ovde sam da vam kažem
da nije vredno toga“,
da nije vredno toga“,
10:56
do you think the kids
will listen to that voice?
will listen to that voice?
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mislite li da će deca poslušati taj glas?
10:59
Yes, because his intonations
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Da, jer će intonacije tog glasa
11:01
will be of a person
that pulled the trigger.
that pulled the trigger.
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proisteći iz osobe koja je povukla okidač.
11:05
And I know that he wants
to turn the clock back.
to turn the clock back.
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A znam da on želi da vrati vreme unazad.
11:10
Of course, that's not possible.
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Naravno, to nije moguće.
11:12
I wish it was. I would have my son back.
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Voleo bih da jeste. Ponovo bih imao sina.
11:14
My brother would have his grandson back.
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Mom bratu bi se vratio unuk.
11:17
So I think that demonstrates
the power of forgiveness.
the power of forgiveness.
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Mislim da to demonstrira moć oproštaja.
11:23
So what's the big takeaway here?
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Šta je glavna poenta u ovome?
11:27
So I want to end
our session with this quote,
our session with this quote,
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Hteo bih da završim
našu sesiju ovim citatom
našu sesiju ovim citatom
11:30
which is the basis of my fourth book,
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koji je osnova za moju četvrtu knjigu,
11:32
which incidentally,
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a za koju je, uzgred,
11:34
the foreword for that book
was written by Tony.
was written by Tony.
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predgovor napisao Toni.
11:38
So it goes like this:
sustained goodwill creates friendship.
sustained goodwill creates friendship.
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Ide ovako: kontinuirana dobra volja
stvara prijateljstvo.
stvara prijateljstvo.
Ne stičete prijatelje
tako što ih bombardujete, zar ne?
tako što ih bombardujete, zar ne?
11:42
You don't make friends
by bombing them, right?
by bombing them, right?
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11:45
You make friends by extending goodwill.
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Stičete prijatelje
tako što ukazujete dobru volju.
tako što ukazujete dobru volju.
11:46
That ought to be obvious.
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To mora da je jasno.
11:48
So sustained goodwill creates friendship,
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Tako, kontinuirana dobra volja
stvara prijateljstvo,
stvara prijateljstvo,
11:50
sustained friendship creates trust,
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kontinuirano prijateljstvo
stvara poverenje,
stvara poverenje,
11:53
sustained trust creates empathy,
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kontinuirano poverenje stvara empatiju,
11:55
sustained empathy creates compassion,
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kontinuirana empatija stvara saosećanje,
11:58
and sustained compassion creates peace.
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a kontinuirano saosećanje stvara mir.
12:01
I call this my peace formula.
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Ovo nazivam svojom formulom za mir.
12:03
It starts with goodwill, friendship,
trust, empathy, compassion and peace.
trust, empathy, compassion and peace.
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Počinje uz dobru volju, prijateljstvo,
poverenje, empatiju, saosećanje i mir.
poverenje, empatiju, saosećanje i mir.
12:09
But people ask me,
how do you extend goodwill
how do you extend goodwill
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Ali ljudi me pitaju
kako ukazati dobru volju
kako ukazati dobru volju
12:11
to the person who murdered your child?
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osobi koja vam je ubila dete.
12:14
I tell them, you do that
through forgiveness.
through forgiveness.
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Kažem im da se to radi kroz opraštanje.
12:17
As it's evident it worked for me.
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Kao što je očigledno, uspelo je kod mene.
12:19
It worked for my family.
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Uspelo je u mojoj porodici.
12:21
What's a miracle is it worked for Tony,
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Čudesno je to što je delovalo
i kod Tonija, kod njegove porodice,
i kod Tonija, kod njegove porodice,
12:24
it worked for his family,
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12:26
it can work for you and your family,
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a može da deluje i kod vas,
u vašoj porodici,
u vašoj porodici,
12:29
for Israel and Palestine,
North and South Korea,
North and South Korea,
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u slučaju Izraela i Palestine,
Severne i Južne Koreje,
Severne i Južne Koreje,
12:32
for Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran and Syria.
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Iraka, Avganistana, Irana i Sirije.
12:35
It can work for
the United States of America.
the United States of America.
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Može delovati i u SAD-u.
12:38
So let me leave you with this, my sisters,
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Zaključiću ovim, moje sestre
12:41
and a couple of brothers --
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i nekolicino braće -
12:43
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
12:45
that peace is possible.
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da je mir moguć.
12:48
How do I know that?
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Kako to znam?
12:49
Because I am at peace.
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Jer sam ja u miru.
12:51
Thank you very much. Namaste.
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Mnogo vam hvala. Namaste.
12:53
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Azim Khamisa - Author, peace activistAzim Khamisa speaks to students and adults on nonviolence, forgiveness and peace-building, and he is a founder of two nonprofit organizations that target youth violence.
Why you should listen
Azim Khamisa writes: "I emigrated to the USA in 1974 to escape violence in Kenya, where we were a targeted minority. But 22 years ago, my only son, Tariq, who was a university student and worked a part-time job as a pizza delivery man, was killed by a 14-year-old gang member in a gang initiation ritual. Tariq was only 20 years old when he died, and needless to say it brought my life to a crashing halt. He was a good and a generous kid!
"However, even clouded in a deeply painful tragedy I saw that there were victims on both sides of the gun. Nine months after Tariq died, I founded the Tariq Khamisa Foundation (TKF). Our mission is to save lives of children, empower the right choices and teach the principles of nonviolence — of empathy, compassion, forgiveness and peacemaking. I forgave my son's killer and invited his grandfather to join me in TKF's work. With the grace of God, TKF is 22 years old and has a safe school model and is successfully keeping kids away from gangs, weapons, drugs, crime and violence. The grandfather and I are still together doing this work, and the kid who killed my son is now 36 years old and he will join us when he is paroled in October 2018. I have authored four books and speak worldwide to students and adults. I am a passionate peace activist and a teacher of nonviolence, forgiveness and spawning peacemakers."
Azim Khamisa | Speaker | TED.com
Ples Felix - Peace activist
Ples Felix is a leader in the Tariq Khamisa Foundation, dedicated to helping stop youth violence.
Why you should listen
Ples Felix was a retired Green Beret, working in community development and raising his grandson Tony, trying hard to keep him safe and away from bad influences. But on one horrible night, Tony, in the company of older gang members, shot and killed a pizza delivery driver. It was a moment that changed many lives.
The delivery driver was Tariq Khamisa, a 20-year-old student in San Diego. His grieving father, Azim Khamisa, seeking to find meaning in unfathomable loss, started the Tariq Khamisa Foundation to address youth violence through education, mentorship and community service. And he invited Felix to join him -- because "there was a victim on both ends of that gun." Since 1995, Felix has co-led the Tariq Khamisa Foundation, developing mentorship programs that keep at-risk kids in school and on the right track.
Ples Felix | Speaker | TED.com