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Tiffany Kagure Mugo and Siphumeze Khundayi: How to have a healthier, positive relationship to sex
Tiffany Kagure Mugo 和 Siphumeze Khundayi: 如何拥有更健康、积极的性爱
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从对于女性身体的畏惧、到对于”乳头“这个词的难为情，我们对于性的观念需要改进，性教育者Tiffany Kagure Mugo和Siphumeze Khundayi说到。带着一个崭新的性积极观念，她们站上了TED的讲台，通过审视古代和现代非洲的性爱智慧，以展示如何摆脱我们已经潜移默化了的关于性的问题想法，从而重新定义性爱和快感对于我们的意义。（本视频包含成人内容）
Tiffany Kagure Mugo - Curator, blogger, media consultant
The curator of HOLAAfrica, Tiffany Kagure Mugo is a wine bar philosopher who pontificates on all things and is willing to learn about everything else. Full bioSiphumeze Khundayi - Photographer, theatre-maker, performer
Siphumeze Khundayi is founder and artistic director of HOLAAfrica, sparking conversations about sex and sexuality. Full bio
The curator of HOLAAfrica, Tiffany Kagure Mugo is a wine bar philosopher who pontificates on all things and is willing to learn about everything else. Full bioSiphumeze Khundayi - Photographer, theatre-maker, performer
Siphumeze Khundayi is founder and artistic director of HOLAAfrica, sparking conversations about sex and sexuality. Full bio
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[This talk contains mature content
Viewer discretion is advised]
Viewer discretion is advised]
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[视频含有成人内容，请酌情观看]
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Tiffany Kagure Mugo: OK.
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好的，
在座的各位来到这里就不能回去了。
00:17
So we've signed up,
there's no turning back now.
there's no turning back now.
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（笑）
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(Laughter)
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Siphumeze Khundayi: Hi, guys.
TKM: Hello, everyone.
TKM: Hello, everyone.
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SK和TKM：大家好。
TKM：你可能觉得你了解性。
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TKM: So, you think you know about sex.
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但事实很可能并非如此，
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Chances are you don't,
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而我们正是来告诉你，
你不了解性。
你不了解性。
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and we are here to tell you
that you don't.
that you don't.
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SK: We are here to tell you
that no matter where you come from,
that no matter where you come from,
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SK：我们想告诉你，
不管你来自哪里，
不管你来自哪里，
尼日利亚，阿拉巴马，
迪拜或是伦敦，
迪拜或是伦敦，
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Abuja to Alabama,
Dubai to downtown London,
Dubai to downtown London,
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性的概念一直在变化。
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sex has and continues to change.
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而我们需要理解这一点，
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And we need to understand this
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才能让它既安全又有情趣。
00:41
if we're going to keep things
safe and spicy.
safe and spicy.
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TKM：这摩擦两个裸露身体的动作，
00:44
TKM: So now, the act
of rubbing our naked bodies together
of rubbing our naked bodies together
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has undergone a number of changes.
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已经历过很多变化，
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And those changes have been
affected by eons of ideas.
affected by eons of ideas.
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而这些变化来自于各种各样的观念。
就连你，作为一个成人，
内心也有对性的一些根深蒂固的想法，
内心也有对性的一些根深蒂固的想法，
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Even you, as an adult,
have some internalized ideas about sex
have some internalized ideas about sex
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that you never challenge.
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而且你从不会质疑它们。
有些好，有些坏，
有些则是非常非常奇怪。
有些则是非常非常奇怪。
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Some good, some bad
and some very, very strange.
and some very, very strange.
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01:02
(Laughter)
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（笑）
SK：当你容许他人看到你的裸体，
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SK: So when you allow someone
to see you butt naked,
to see you butt naked,
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01:06
do you ever think about
how the ideas that you internally have
how the ideas that you internally have
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你有想过你心中根深蒂固的想法，
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will affect whether you will like them
tickling your elbow or kissing your thigh
tickling your elbow or kissing your thigh
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会怎样影响你对爱抚、亲吻
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or shouting out the name of a chose deity?
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或听到对方呻吟的名字的感受吗？
我们必须监测我们的内心
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One must do internal
monitoring and evaluation
monitoring and evaluation
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01:20
if we are going to live
our best sexy lives.
our best sexy lives.
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来得到更好的性生活。
TKM：而我们会告诉你
如何拥有好的性生活。
如何拥有好的性生活。
01:24
TKM: And we're going to tell you
how to have a great sex life, right?
how to have a great sex life, right?
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01:27
But the first thing you need to do
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不过你要做的第一件事，
是放下那些关于性的负面观念。
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is let go of the bad ideas
you have about sex.
you have about sex.
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SK：想一想我们需要改变的东西，
01:32
SK: Think about the things
that we need to change.
that we need to change.
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TKM：和我们需要坦然接受的新事物。
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TKM: And the things we need to embrace
in all of their shiny newness.
in all of their shiny newness.
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那现在就开始我们的性的旅程吧：
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So, we're going to take you
on a journey of sex:
on a journey of sex:
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性的负面，历史上好的性行为，
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the bad parts of sex,
historically great sexual practices
historically great sexual practices
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和性的未来。
01:45
and the future of sex.
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01:48
SK: Now, judging by the cool
seven billion people on this planet,
seven billion people on this planet,
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SK：我们知道，地球上有七十亿人，
这么一算，人类的性活动
已经有很长的时间，
已经有很长的时间，
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human beings have been doing
the sex thing for a long time.
the sex thing for a long time.
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行为数量也十分庞大。
01:56
And in vast quantities.
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但这不代表我们真的擅长这件事儿。
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But this does not mean
we are actually good at it.
we are actually good at it.
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我现在马上就想到了——强奸案。
02:02
From the top of my head -- rape culture.
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TKM: How tradition and culture
limit ideas of pleasure.
limit ideas of pleasure.
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TKM：传统和文化对快感的限制。
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SK: Or even the idea that the nipple
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SK：或者只是简单的：
乳头应该和
DJ试图调大声音的动作一样
DJ试图调大声音的动作一样
02:11
deserves the same treatment
that a DJ gives his deck
that a DJ gives his deck
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02:14
when he's trying to turn up the volume.
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这样的想法。
TKM：从个人角度来说，
这真的会惹恼我。
这真的会惹恼我。
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TKM: Like, that is a personal
pet peeve of mine.
pet peeve of mine.
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SK：我们是如此的畏惧性。
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SK: We are so scared of sex.
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TKM: And we need somebody
to blame for our fear.
to blame for our fear.
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TKM：而我们会把这怪罪于他人。
这就是女人登场的时候，
和我们对女人身体各部的畏惧，
和我们对女人身体各部的畏惧，
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Enter women, and our fear
of every part of their anatomy,
of every part of their anatomy,
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除非我们正在利用她们的性感。
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unless we are the ones
using their sexiness.
using their sexiness.
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SK：想一想。
02:35
SK: Think about it.
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你可以很容易和其他人说
“我胳膊肘疼”,
“我胳膊肘疼”,
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You can quite easily go to someone
and say, "My elbow hurts."
and say, "My elbow hurts."
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但是你敢试试和他人说
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But try going to someone and saying,
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“打扰了，我的阴道
有种奇怪的酥麻的感觉，
有种奇怪的酥麻的感觉，
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"Excuse me, my vagina
has a strange buzzing feeling,
has a strange buzzing feeling,
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你知道哪里能找到
可以缓解的药膏吗？“
可以缓解的药膏吗？“
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do you know where I can find
the buzzing-vagina ointment?"
the buzzing-vagina ointment?"
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你可以想象后果会如何。
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And see how well that goes down.
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（笑）
02:50
(Laughter)
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TKM：我都不敢想了。
02:51
TKM: Does not go down well.
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我曾经挑战我的朋友们去超市里
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I once challenged friends
to simply go into supermarkets
to simply go into supermarkets
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和陌生人说，“大腿”。
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and say to strangers, "Thighs."
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没有人敢去做，
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No one did it,
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虽然“大腿”也可以指
鸡腿肉或者火鸡腿。
鸡腿肉或者火鸡腿。
03:00
despite the fact that they could have been
talking about chicken or turkey.
talking about chicken or turkey.
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（笑）
03:04
(Laughter)
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SK：一些文化和历史上的概念
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SK: So a number of cultural
and historical notions
and historical notions
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已经埋藏在了我们内心深处，
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have burrowed so deeply within us,
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我们甚至意识不到相比听见“左膝”，
当有人说“乳头”的时候我们的惊讶
当有人说“乳头”的时候我们的惊讶
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we don't even notice that it's strange
to freak out when somebody says "nipple"
to freak out when somebody says "nipple"
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是一个多么奇怪的反应。
03:14
as opposed to "left knee."
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我们回避对性应有的讨论，
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We refuse to engage with sex properly.
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所以我们该做的第一步
是承认性的存在，
是承认性的存在，
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And the first step
is admitting that it exists
is admitting that it exists
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不只是在各类广告中，
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outside of trying to sell us products
like bottled water or coffee.
like bottled water or coffee.
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电影里不切实际的镜头中，
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The unrealistic depictions in movies
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或你“不小心”在网上看到的东西。
03:28
or that one thing that you saw
on the internet "by mistake."
on the internet "by mistake."
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是吧？
03:31
TKM: Mhm.
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TLM：那么为了解开这个病症，
就像之前说的，
就像之前说的，
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So, now in order to cure
this ailment, again,
this ailment, again,
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让我们先承认
我们对性有很多错乱的认知。
我们对性有很多错乱的认知。
03:36
let us just first admit that we have
some messed-up ideas of sex.
some messed-up ideas of sex.
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SK：深吸气——
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SK: And breathe in --
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（吸气）
03:41
(Inhales)
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然后让它们离去。
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And let it all go.
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Now, it all seems pretty morbid --
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你可能觉得这些都很病态——
文化和社会让我们
在性交上一败涂地。
在性交上一败涂地。
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that culture and society have failed us
in our quest for coitus.
in our quest for coitus.
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但事情并不总是这样。
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But this is not the case.
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历史和过去有很多经验
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There are things
that the past can teach us
that the past can teach us
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可以帮助我们改变现状。
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to help us upgrade the present.
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TKM：那现在如果我有一杯红酒——
我确实挺想来一杯的——
我确实挺想来一杯的——
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TKM: So now, if I had a glass of Merlot --
which I really wish I did --
which I really wish I did --
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我会倒一杯给我们的祖先，
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I would pour the ancestors a drink,
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因为非洲社会在
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because there are ways
in which African societies
in which African societies
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Z开头的词出现之前已经有了——
04:09
huddled this sex thing
before the C that shall not be named --
before the C that shall not be named --
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SK：（小声说）殖民
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SK: (Whispering) Colonization.
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TKM：——对性的复杂理解。
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TKM: Came through.
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在非洲社会中我们曾有
现实和思想上的空间
现实和思想上的空间
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Within African societies, we had spaces,
both social and spiritual,
both social and spiritual,
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来帮助我们制度化健康的性行为。
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that helped institutionalize
healthy sexual practices.
healthy sexual practices.
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We had sexuality schools
that taught social and erotic cues.
that taught social and erotic cues.
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我们曾有关于性的学校，
教授社交和性情的暗示。
教授社交和性情的暗示。
我们曾有空间给青少年来体会，
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We had spaces where teenagers
could engage, understand
could engage, understand
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学习如何正确的处理性冲动和欲望，
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and like, properly know
how to handle sexual urges,
how to handle sexual urges,
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还有给成人处理
他们的压力和困扰的空间。
他们的压力和困扰的空间。
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and places where adults could handle
the stresses and strifes of adulting.
the stresses and strifes of adulting.
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04:40
SK: Ways that didn't include
you hiding your credit card bill
you hiding your credit card bill
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SK：而不只是试图埋藏
你的信用卡账单，
你的信用卡账单，
或是删掉某个客服号码。
04:43
or deleting that toll-free number
from your phone.
from your phone.
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这些空间对于女人非常重要。
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These spaces of old
were so important for women.
were so important for women.
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TKM：非洲的性行为是围绕着女人，
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TKM: There were African sexual practices
that centered women
that centered women
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或者更具体来说，女人的快感。
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and in particular, their pleasure.
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SK：而我们会讨论其中具体的一个，
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SK: And we're going to talk
about one in particular
about one in particular
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它叫做“osunality”，
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that's named "osunality."
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TLM：也被称作 非洲性欲。
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TKM: Also known as the African erotic.
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没错，在座的各位，
欢迎来到全新的世界。
欢迎来到全新的世界。
05:01
Yes, my people,
welcome to the Thunderdome.
welcome to the Thunderdome.
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05:04
The erotic takes on
different shapes and forms
different shapes and forms
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当你环游全世界，你会发现
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as you travel the globe.
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情欲有着不同的形式。
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Now let's take a bow to the "Kama Sutra,"
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SK：现在让我们致敬“Kama Sutra"，
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the world's first book on the pleasures
of sensual living.
of sensual living.
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历史上第一本关于性爱快感的书。
05:15
More than just a mere depiction
of contortionist sexual positions,
of contortionist sexual positions,
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这本书不只是描述了各种性爱姿势，
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it provided a comprehensive guide
on living a good life.
on living a good life.
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也包括了如何更好生活的指南。
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What is particularly interesting for us
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对于我们来说最有意思的
是这本书对于女人
和为女人制造欢悦的重视。
和为女人制造欢悦的重视。
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is that it focused on women
and creating pleasure for women.
and creating pleasure for women.
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TKM: Mhm. Shout-out to the "Kama Sutra,"
but back to the African erotic.
but back to the African erotic.
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TKM：Kama Sutra说的很对，
不过让我们回到非洲性欲。
不过让我们回到非洲性欲。
05:36
SK: OK, my bad, bringing it back.
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SK：不好意思跑题了，
让我们回到主题。
让我们回到主题。
教授Nzegwu曾解释
Osun是非洲约鲁巴族的神：
Osun是非洲约鲁巴族的神：
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So, Nkiru Nzegwu says that Osun,
who is an orisha of the Yoruba people,
who is an orisha of the Yoruba people,
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05:43
typically associated with water,
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她经常和水被联系在一起，
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purity, fertility, love
and, most importantly, sensuality,
and, most importantly, sensuality,
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代表着纯洁，繁殖力，爱，
以及最重要的，情欲，
以及最重要的，情欲，
她代表了以女性为中心的、
改变生命的能量，
改变生命的能量，
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represents a female-centered
life-transforming energy
life-transforming energy
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流过生命，让生命更有活力。
05:55
that courses through and animates life.
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代表了Osun力量的女人，
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She says that women
who typify the osun force
who typify the osun force
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会很自然大方的展示
自己的性感和情欲。
自己的性感和情欲。
06:01
brandish their sexuality quite openly
and unselfconsciously.
and unselfconsciously.
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And she goes on to say ...
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教授还说过——
TKM：讲得不错。
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TKM: There you go,
you got that line this time.
you got that line this time.
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06:10
"The flow need not result
in conception and birth
in conception and birth
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“流动不需要导致怀孕和生育，
也不会显露出交配中心的享乐原则。
06:13
but doesn't tell the principle of pleasure
at the heart of copulation.
at the heart of copulation.
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这个位于创造力中心的享乐原则
06:17
This pleasure principle
at the heart of the creative energy
at the heart of the creative energy
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被比喻成“Osun之蜜”。
06:20
is metaphorically known as 'osun honey'."
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我不想错误的引用，就照着读了。
06:23
Sorry, I did not want to misquote that.
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Osun之蜜和非洲性欲
06:25
So now, osun honey and osunality
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重新证实了性快感和色情是正常的。
06:28
re-affirm the normality
of sexual pleasure and the erotic.
of sexual pleasure and the erotic.
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Osun, like other female
deities of fertility across Africa,
deities of fertility across Africa,
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SK：Osun, 就像其他非洲的
孕育女神一样，
孕育女神一样，
强调着女性感官的重要，
06:37
made sure and emphasized
the importance of female sexuality
the importance of female sexuality
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同时也不否定男性的情欲。
06:42
without negating male sexuality.
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我们有Tonga、Bemba、Sande
06:45
We had the Tonga, the Bemba, the Sande
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and other similar
sexuality schools of thought
sexuality schools of thought
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以及其他类似的性学派，
教导着年轻女性她们内在的力量。
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that taught young women
about the power of this inner force.
about the power of this inner force.
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TKM：在非洲大陆上，
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有很多人谈论性的协同力，
06:56
there's a great deal of talk
about the synergic nature of sex
about the synergic nature of sex
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和性对社会的积极作用。
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and how it comes together
as a social good.
as a social good.
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举个例子，在非洲的卢旺达，
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For example, within Rwanda,
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有一种说法是河流之所以会丰沛
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there is the notion
that the rivers are replenished
that the rivers are replenished
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by the act of a woman squirting.
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是因为女人的潮射。
（笑）
07:10
(Laughter)
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SK：但现代人们对于性的想法
已变成了一种战役，
已变成了一种战役，
07:12
SK: But modern-day ideas of sex
have become some sort of battle
have become some sort of battle
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in which we are all trying
to subvert each other.
to subvert each other.
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在其中我们都试图推翻他人。
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TKM: We are pounding the pussy,
using sex as a weapon,
using sex as a weapon,
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TKM：我们暴力的性行为，
用性作为武器，
用性作为武器，
假装不感兴趣，试图征服对方，
07:25
playing hard to get, conquering --
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a constant power struggle.
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像是永久的权力争夺。
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SK: And there is always a loser
when it comes to this war.
when it comes to this war.
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SK：而在这样的战斗中
总会有一个输家。
总会有一个输家。
07:34
TKM: So now the ability to openly brandish
and explore your sexuality and your sex
and explore your sexuality and your sex
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TKM：所以现在，能够放开的
展示和探索你的性欲
展示和探索你的性欲
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without it being a threat to others
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而不使他人感到威胁
是健康的性行为中最重要的一点。
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is at the core of engaging
with healthy sexual practices.
with healthy sexual practices.
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SK: Now this is where it begins
to get really, really good.
to get really, really good.
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SK：从这里开始就变得越来越好了。
07:51
TKM: So what does it mean
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TKM：抛开这些阴暗怪异的概念，
07:53
to reconceptualize sex away from this idea
of the monster hiding in the night?
of the monster hiding in the night?
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重新构建对性的认知，
这意味着什么？
这意味着什么？
07:58
What is the potential for doing greatness
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在哪些层面上可以让性爱变得更好，
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on the kitchen counter, a secluded beach,
the backseat of a car
the backseat of a car
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无论是在厨房的台子上、
僻静的沙滩上、车的后座上、
僻静的沙滩上、车的后座上、
08:04
or even simply in between the sheets?
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或者只是单纯的在床上？
08:06
Now in learning from the past
and sliding into the present,
and sliding into the present,
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SK：在学习过去和
活在现代的过程中，
活在现代的过程中，
08:10
a radical theory of sex
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一个崭新的性理论
08:12
must identify, it must describe,
explain and denounce
explain and denounce
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必须描述，解释，并声讨
性压抑和性欲方面的不公正。
08:17
sexual oppression and erotic injustice.
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TKM：而性积极是其中一个领域，
08:20
TKM: And sex positivity
is one of the realms
is one of the realms
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in which the new
can be unpacked and explored.
can be unpacked and explored.
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可以让我们解放和探索新的想法。
08:25
SK: We're asking you
to call upon the osun honey
to call upon the osun honey
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SK：我们想请各位
利用Osun之蜜的想法，
利用Osun之蜜的想法，
08:28
to engage with new ideas
of sex and pleasure
of sex and pleasure
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迎接对于性和快感的新的观念，
08:32
so that we can start
to build a new identity
to build a new identity
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从而建立一个新的更贴切的身份，
08:35
that feels more like a fitted dress
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一个像是合身的裙子一样的身份，
08:37
and less like a wooden coffin
slowly choking the life out of us.
slowly choking the life out of us.
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而不是像一个令人窒息的木制棺材。
TKM：现在世界上有很多人
在探索自己的性爱旅程。
在探索自己的性爱旅程。
08:42
Now there are a lot of people
charting their own sexual paths.
charting their own sexual paths.
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08:46
But, because as HOLAAfrica --
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作为HOLAAfrica的成员——
SK：我们建立了关于性的网络平台——
08:48
SK: We do sex and sexuality online --
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TKM: We would be foolhardy
not to mention the digital realm.
not to mention the digital realm.
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TKM：我们自然要提到网络和电子社会。
很多女性在网络上
已经进行了不起的谈话，
已经进行了不起的谈话，
08:54
There are women who are online,
creating incredible conversations,
creating incredible conversations,
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谈论着阴蒂，
08:59
chatting about the clitoris,
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谈论着反向女牛仔和舔阴。
09:02
chatting about the reverse cowgirl
and also cunnilingus.
and also cunnilingus.
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09:05
SK: I like the word "cunnilingus."
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SK：我喜欢“舔阴”这个词。
TKM：我想也是，不过这不是重点。
09:07
TKM: I bet you do.
But that's not the point.
But that's not the point.
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回到正题，这些女性
正在重建她们祖先的方式，
正在重建她们祖先的方式，
09:09
Anyway, these women
are resurrecting the work of ancestors
are resurrecting the work of ancestors
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开始一些很了不起的，
09:13
to have some incredible conversations
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09:15
that have been previously
buried and sealed.
buried and sealed.
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之前被掩埋了的话题。
SK：她们正在问那些
我们从来没有勇气问的问题，
我们从来没有勇气问的问题，
09:18
SK: They are asking the questions
that we are so afraid to ask,
that we are so afraid to ask,
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09:23
so that we don't end up
in sticky situations.
in sticky situations.
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让我们能够避开棘手的情况。
09:25
TKM: That's true.
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TKM：这是真的。
而另一个我们看到积极探索性的场合
09:26
And another space that we've been seeing
the charting of a new sexual path
the charting of a new sexual path
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是同性恋女人和她们的怪癖。
09:30
is by queer women
and their engagement in kink.
and their engagement in kink.
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09:35
SK: Now, think "Fifty Shades of Grey"
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SK：想象一下《五十度灰》,
除去那个毛骨悚然、
不懂得性需要双方同意的富老板。
不懂得性需要双方同意的富老板。
09:37
without the creepy rich guy
who does not understand consent.
who does not understand consent.
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09:42
(Laughter)
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（笑）
TKM：有一种怪癖很有趣，角色扮演。
09:43
TKM: So one fascinating subset of kink
is actually rope play.
is actually rope play.
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09:48
SK: Shibari, also known as Kinbaku,
is the Japanese art of rope play.
is the Japanese art of rope play.
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SK：举个例子，
日式绑捆是日本的一种角色扮演。
日式绑捆是日本的一种角色扮演。
09:52
Originally used as a means
of restraining captives,
of restraining captives,
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原先用于军队中压制俘虏，
现在已变成了一种全球性的性行为，
09:57
it became sexualized
and spreading across the globe
and spreading across the globe
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作为一种特殊的束缚，
带着尊重和性欲的美感。
带着尊重和性欲的美感。
10:00
as a kinky form of restraint
with a respected and erotic aesthetic.
with a respected and erotic aesthetic.
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10:05
TKM: And it landed on our shores.
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TKM：然后它被传入了我们的大陆。
10:07
Who would have thought that African
queer women would be kinksters?
queer women would be kinksters?
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谁会想到非洲同性恋女人
会是情趣怪癖者？
会是情趣怪癖者？
10:11
Coming from a history of sexual violence,
slavery and a lack of bodily autonomy.
slavery and a lack of bodily autonomy.
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经历了性暴力、奴役、殖民的历史，
你可能会问，这样不会太快吗？
10:16
Is it not too soon, you ask.
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10:18
SK: No, it's not,
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SK：不，不会。
10:19
and these women have taught us
that despite the dark history
that despite the dark history
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这些女性教会了我们
尽管黑暗的历史掩盖了
尽管黑暗的历史掩盖了
10:23
that covers the body of women
from our beautiful continent,
from our beautiful continent,
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我们美丽的大陆上女性的躯体，
10:26
these women are actively
and beautifully constructing
and beautifully constructing
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这些女性正在积极地、
以非凡的美感建立
以非凡的美感建立
10:29
what sex and pleasure means to them.
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性爱和快感对于她们的意义。
10:32
TKM: This is not to say that everyone
now needs to rush out and engage in kink.
now needs to rush out and engage in kink.
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TKM：这不是说所有人必须
马上形成怪癖。
马上形成怪癖。
不过，如果这些同性恋女人
可以战胜历史，
可以战胜历史，
10:37
But if these queer women
can come out of a history
can come out of a history
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10:40
of, again, sexual violence,
slavery, colonization
slavery, colonization
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战胜性暴力、奴役、殖民
以及所有其他传统、神教、
和文化的问题，
和文化的问题，
10:44
and all manner of traditional,
religious and cultural pitfalls,
religious and cultural pitfalls,
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10:48
to reconceptualize what sex
and pleasure means to them,
and pleasure means to them,
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改写性和快感对于她们的意义，
10:52
then you can do it, too.
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你也可以。
SK：是的，你也可以。
10:53
SK: You can do it too, boo-boo.
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没错，你可以。
10:56
Yes, you can.
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10:57
(Laughter)
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（笑）
TKM：我们要做的是
找出我们对性的负面想法，
找出我们对性的负面想法，
10:58
TKM: It is in taking the ideas
that we have about sex -- the bad ones,
that we have about sex -- the bad ones,
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狠狠地扔到一边，
11:02
and head-butting them,
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然后抓住那些好的，创建新的意义，
11:03
holding on to the good ones
and creating new ones
and creating new ones
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这样我们才能更好的享受性，
11:06
that we can have an incredible engagement
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一个最丰富、自然的人类活动。
11:09
with one of the most prolific
and natural human acts ever.
and natural human acts ever.
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SK：关键的是要找到什么是错误的，
11:13
SK: It's about figuring out
what counts as a system bug.
what counts as a system bug.
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什么是经典的，
11:16
TKM: What to term a classic.
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而什么新特色我们应该加上。
11:18
SK: And what new features we should add.
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人类一直都以改进创新而闻名，
11:20
Human beings are infamous
for their superpower to upgrade.
for their superpower to upgrade.
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性也应该是其中的一部分。
11:24
This should count for our sex, too.
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11:27
TKM: Thank you.
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TKM：谢谢!
11:29
(Applause)
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（掌声）
Translated by Christina Wang
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Tiffany Kagure Mugo - Curator, blogger, media consultantThe curator of HOLAAfrica, Tiffany Kagure Mugo is a wine bar philosopher who pontificates on all things and is willing to learn about everything else.
Why you should listen
Tiffany Kagure curates and creates knowledge on women and sexuality on the African continent, manages spreadsheets and creates conversations -- all the while trying to figure out how to adult. Founding and running HOLAAfrica helped to bring together her various skills as it demanded all of them, all the time.
A passion for making sure people had the orgasms and conversations that elude them whilst being given the comprehensive healthy knowledge of sexuality that eluded her meant that HOLAAfrica forced her to grow as a blogger, project creator and guru of excel spreadsheets. The need to have conversations about sex and sexuality, seeing what the novel ways this could be done whilst exploring what boundaries could be pushed meant that her life at the helm of HOLAAfrica and her personal consultancy work grew, and life got wild. Sometimes the best life choices come from trying to figure out how to get through your own existence.
Tiffany Kagure Mugo | Speaker | TED.com
Siphumeze Khundayi - Photographer, theatre-maker, performer
Siphumeze Khundayi is founder and artistic director of HOLAAfrica, sparking conversations about sex and sexuality.
Why you should listen
Siphumeze Khundayi has found art to be a great tool for her to explore and express who she is. So she makes art about the experiences of African women and their sexuality. When she is not creating and performing, she is founder and Artistic Director of HOLAAfrica, where she gets to facilitate dialogues and make sure the site is looking pretty while annoying the curator for taking ages to reply to emails. She also dedicates her life to floating through the world having conversations with the universe, struggling through yoga poses, meditating, blowing bubbles and playing Candy Crush.
Siphumeze Khundayi | Speaker | TED.com