ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Ma Yansong - Architect, artist
Believing that architects should envision and build the future, Ma Yansong develops advanced designs that interpret an Eastern affinity for nature within a contemporary fashion.

Why you should listen

In 2004, architect Ma Yansong founded MAD Architects, a global architecture firm committed to developing organic and futuristic environments embodying the natural world. MAD has created a series of imaginative works across the globe that demonstrate how they envision the future city, including the Absolute Towers, Harbin Opera House and Hutong Bubble 32. 

In 2014, MAD was selected as the principal designer for the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art, making Yansong the first Chinese architect to design an overseas cultural landmark. In April 2019, the Centre Pompidou opened MAD X, a major exhibition of MAD's works that exemplifies their architectural vision and expresses the firm's core vision of a futuristic architecture, akin to dream-like earthscapes, that creates a conversation between nature, earth and sky.

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Ma Yansong: Urban architecture inspired by mountains, clouds and volcanoes

马岩松: 灵感来自山,云和火山的城市建筑

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从大自然中汲取灵感,设计师马岩松所设计的令人惊叹的建筑,从当代城市中方形对称的楼宇中挣脱。他丰富且优美的作品——从一对极具曲线美的高层双塔,相互“舞蹈”呼应彼此,再到看似银装素裹的雪山歌剧院——为我们展现了反抗常规的建筑之美。
- Architect, artist
Believing that architects should envision and build the future, Ma Yansong develops advanced designs that interpret an Eastern affinity for nature within a contemporary fashion. Full bio

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I am an architect建筑师.
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我是一名建筑师,
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And this picture图片 shows节目 the city
that I come from,
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图片里的城市,是我的家乡——
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Beijing北京, China中国.
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中国,北京。
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And old Beijing北京 is like
a very beautiful美丽 garden花园,
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老北京像是一个非常美丽的花园,
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you can see a lot of nature性质.
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你可以看到很多自然风光。
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When I was a kid孩子,
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当我还是一个孩子的时候,
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I learned学到了 to swim游泳 in this lake
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我在这片河里学游泳,
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and I climbed爬上 mountains
every一切 day after school学校.
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每天放学都会爬那些山。
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But after getting得到 older旧的,
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但长大以后,
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we built内置 more and more modern现代 buildings房屋.
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越来越多的大楼拔地而起,
00:40
And they all look the same相同.
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但它们看起来都一个样子——
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They all look like matchboxes火柴盒.
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都像火柴盒。
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Why are modern现代 buildings房屋
and cities城市 full充分 of these boxy四四方方 shapes形状?
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为什么当代建筑和城市
挤满了这些火柴盒?
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In this photo照片,
you actually其实 see two cities城市.
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在这张图片里,
你实际上看到的是两座城市。
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The one on the left is New York纽约,
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左边的是纽约,
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and the one on the right
is Tianjin天津, a Chinese中文 city
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右边的是天津,
一个正在建设的中国城市。
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that's being存在 constructed.
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And they have very similar类似 skylines天际线.
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它们有着非常相似的天际线。
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Maybe they also follow跟随 the same相同 principle原理.
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可能它们也遵循着
同样的建筑原则。
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You know, competing竞争 for density密度,
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比如都在攀比建楼密度,
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competing竞争 for more space空间,
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争夺更多空间,
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competing竞争 for efficiency效率.
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竞争使用效率。
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Therefore因此, modern现代 architecture建筑
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因此,当代建筑
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becomes a symbol符号 of capital首都 and power功率.
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变成了一个资本和权力的象征。
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Chinese中文 cities城市 are building建造 a lot,
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中国的城市正在大规模被重建,
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they're also, you know,
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它们也不仅都在
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not only competing竞争
for this space空间 and height高度,
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比拼空间和高度,
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they're also learning学习 a lot
from North American美国 urban城市的 strategies策略
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而且也在学习很多北美城市战略,
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[and] also repeat重复 a lot from city to city.
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将其模式拷贝到
一个又一个城市。
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So here, we call it
1,000 cities城市 with one face面对.
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在这儿我们叫它“千城一面”。
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So as an architect建筑师 in China中国,
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在中国,作为一个建筑师,
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I have to ask myself,
what can I do about it?
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我需要问自己:对此我能做些什么?
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One day, I was walking步行 on a street,
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有天,我在街上走着,
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I saw people selling销售 fish.
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看到人们在卖鱼,
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And they put the fish
in this cubic立方体 fish tank坦克.
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他们把鱼放在一个方形鱼缸里。
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So I was asking the same相同 question,
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于是我问着自己同样的问题:
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why a cubic立方体 space空间 for fish?
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为什么给鱼一个立方空间?
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Do they like cubic立方体 space空间?
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鱼儿们喜欢立方空间吗?
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(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
02:09
Obviously明显 not.
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显然不。
02:10
So maybe the cubic立方体 space空间,
cubic立方体 architecture建筑,
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可能因为方形建筑
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is cheaper便宜, is easier更轻松 to make.
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建造起来更加便宜、方便。
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So, I did this small research研究,
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于是我做了一个小研究,
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I put a camera相机 and I tried试着
to observe how fish behave表现
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我放了个相机,并尝试去观察
居住在立方空间中
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in this cubic立方体 space空间.
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那些鱼的行为。
02:28
And then I found发现
they probably大概 weren't happy快乐.
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之后我发现它们可能不开心。
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The cubic立方体 space空间 wasn't
the perfect完善 home for them,
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立方空间对它们来说
不是一个完美的居住空间,
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so I decided决定 to design设计
a new fish tank坦克 for them.
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所以我决定给它们设计一个新鱼缸。
02:38
I think it should be more organic有机,
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我认为这新鱼缸应该更有机,
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it should be a more fluid流体 space空间 inside.
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内部空间应该更具流动性,
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More complex复杂 interiors内饰.
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具有更加复杂的内部构造。
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I think they should feel happier幸福
living活的 in this space空间,
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我认为鱼儿们居住在这样的环境下
应该感到更加开心,
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but I wouldn't不会 know
because they don't talk to me.
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但我并不知道,
因为它们不会和我说话。
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(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
02:59
But one year after,
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一年后,
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we got this opportunity机会
to design设计 this real真实 building建造 for humans人类.
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我们有了一个
为人们设计大楼的机会,
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This is actually其实 a pair of towers
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也就是在坐落于多伦多市外
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that we built内置 in Mississauga密西沙加,
a city outside Toronto多伦多.
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的密西沙加市建造一对双塔。
03:14
And people call this
Marilyn玛丽莲 Monroe梦露 Towers --
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人们称它“梦露大厦”——
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(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
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because of its curvature曲率.
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因为它的曲线外观。
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And the idea理念 was to build建立 a tower,
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创造这个
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high-rise高楼, residential住宅 tower,
but not a box.
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高层的、可居住的塔,
而非一个盒子,
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It's more inspired启发 by nature性质,
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更多是受到自然的灵感激发,
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with the sunshine阳光 and wind dynamics动力学.
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阳光,和风动力。
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After we finished
designing设计 the first tower,
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在我们结束第一座塔的设计后,
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they told us, you know,
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他们和我们说:
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"You don't have to design设计 the second第二 one,
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“你们不用设计第二个塔了,
只要重复第一座的设计就好,
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you just repeat重复 the same相同 design设计,
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and we pay工资 you twice两次."
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我们照常付你两座塔的钱。”
03:52
But I said, "You cannot不能 have
two Marilyn玛丽莲 Monroes门罗 standing常设 there."
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但我说:“你不能有两座
玛丽莲梦露站在那儿。”
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And nature性质 never repeats重复 itself本身,
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因为自然从来不会自我复制。
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so now we have two buildings房屋
that can dance舞蹈 together一起.
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所以现在我们有两座
相互呼应,共同起舞的大楼。
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So I have this question for myself.
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我对自己有这么一个疑问:
04:12
You know, why, in the modern现代 city,
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为什么,在当代城市中,
04:14
we often经常 think architecture建筑
is a machine, is a box?
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我们总是把建筑
看作一个机器,或一个盒子?
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So here, I want to see how
people looked看着 at nature性质 in the past过去.
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想到这里,我想要看看过去
人们是怎样看待自然的。
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By looking into this Chinese中文
traditional传统 painting绘画,
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通过对中国传统绘画的研究,
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I found发现 that they often经常 mixed
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我发现他们通常
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the nature性质 and the artificial人造, man-made人造,
in a very dramatic戏剧性 way,
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将自然与人造物件
用一种非常戏剧化的方式混合,
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so they create创建 this emotional情绪化 scenery风景.
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以此创造出这般动人的景象。
04:40
So in the modern现代 city, my question is:
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因此在当代城市中,
我的问题是:
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Is there a way that we don't separate分离
buildings房屋 and nature性质,
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有没有一种方法,
不用将楼宇和自然分离,
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but combine结合 them?
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而是将它们融合?
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So there's another另一个 project项目
that we built内置 in China中国.
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这里有另一个我们
在中国负责的项目。
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It's a quite相当 large residential住宅 complex复杂.
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是一个规模挺大的住宅区,
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And it's located位于 in a very
beautiful美丽 nature性质 setting设置.
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而且它坐落在
一个非常漂亮的自然景观中。
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To be honest诚实, the first time
when I visited参观 the site现场,
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老实说,我第一次实地考察的时候,
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it was too beautiful美丽.
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它太美了,
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And I almost几乎 decided决定 to reject拒绝 the project项目
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以至于我差点儿决定推了这个项目,
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because you feel as a criminal刑事
to do anything there.
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因为你在这儿,小摸小碰,
都觉得在犯罪。
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I don't want to become成为 a criminal刑事.
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我可不想成为罪犯。
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But my second第二 thought was,
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但是我三思过后,
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if I didn't do it,
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如果我不接下项目,
05:25
they would just put, you know,
standard标准 urban城市的 towers there, anyway无论如何.
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他们不管怎样就会在这儿
放一个标准城市建筑。
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And that would be a pity可怜.
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那会是一个遗憾。
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So I decided决定 I had to give it a try.
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所以我决定孤注一掷。
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So the way we did that was
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我们的方法是
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we took the contour轮廓 lines线
from the existing现有 mountains,
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拿来那些山峦的等高线图,
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and we took those lines线
and then translated翻译 them into a building建造.
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把它们转译成建筑。
05:45
So those towers are actually其实
taking服用 the shapes形状
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因此,那些建筑实际上借鉴了
山峦原有的造型和几何图案。
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and geometries几何 from the nature性质.
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So each building建造 has a different不同 shape形状,
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每一幢楼,都有
不同的形态、大小和高度。
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a different不同 size尺寸, different不同 height高度.
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And they become成为
the extension延期 of the nature性质
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它们的拔起之地成为了
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[where] they're situated位于.
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大自然的延伸。
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And you know,
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而且,
06:03
people think we use computer电脑 sometimes有时
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人们认为我们有时用电脑
06:06
to design设计 this kind of architecture建筑,
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来设计这样的建筑,
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but I actually其实 use a lot of hand sketch草图,
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但事实上我更多使用手稿,
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because I like the randomness随机性
in the hand sketch草图.
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因为我喜欢手稿中的随性。
06:16
And they can carry携带 sort分类 of emotions情绪
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它们能够传递出一种
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that cannot不能 be made制作 by computers电脑.
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电脑图纸无法表达的情绪。
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Architecture建筑 and humans人类 and nature性质
can coexist共存 together一起
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建筑、人类和自然可以共存,
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and are having a good
relationship关系 in this photo照片.
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也可以有一个很和谐的关系,
如图所示。
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Actually其实 this guy in the photo照片
is one of the architects建筑师 on our team球队.
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照片中的人
是我们建筑师团队的一员,
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I think he's been enjoying享受
the beautiful美丽 nature性质 scenery风景,
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我认为他正在
享受这个美丽的自然风景,
06:44
and feeling感觉 relieved安心
that he is not part部分 of the criminals罪犯 --
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因为他没有成为
破坏景色的罪犯——
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(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
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in the end结束.
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而终于如释重负。
06:53
Back to the city,
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说回城市,
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in Beijing北京, we were asked
to design设计 these urban城市的 towers.
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在北京,有人叫我们
设计这样的城市建筑。
07:00
And I made制作 this model模型.
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我做了这样的一个模型。
07:01
It's an architecture建筑 model模型,
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这是一个建筑模型,
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looks容貌 like a minimountain小山 and minivalleys迷你山谷.
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有迷你山丘和迷你村庄。
07:07
I put this model模型 on my table,
and I watered浇水 it every一切 day.
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我把这个模型放在我的书桌上,
每天给它浇水。
07:11
And years年份 later后来,
we completed完成 this building建造.
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几年过去,
我们这座大楼完工了。
07:16
And you can see how my hand sketch草图
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你能看到我的手稿
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is being存在 translated翻译
into the real真实 building建造.
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是如何一点点被转译为
这一真实建筑。
07:23
And they look quite相当 similar类似.
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它们看着蛮相似的。
07:26
It looks容貌 like a black黑色 mountain.
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看起来像是一座黑色高山。
07:27
And this is how this building建造
is situated位于 in the city.
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这就是该建筑如何屹立在城市中的。
07:32
It's on the edge边缘 of this beautiful美丽 park公园.
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它屹立在这美丽公园的边界,
07:35
It's different不同, very different不同
from the surrounding周围 buildings房屋,
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和周围的高楼大厦相比,
它极其的与众不同。
07:38
because other buildings房屋 are trying
to build建立 a wall around the nature性质.
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因为其他建筑
尝试着在自然周围竖一堵墙,
07:43
But what we're trying to do here
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而我们致力于
07:45
is to make the building建造 itself本身
as a part部分 of nature性质,
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将建筑打造成自然的一部分,
07:50
so we can extend延伸 the nature性质
from the park公园 into the city.
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随之将自然
从公园延展,并带入城市。
07:54
So that was the idea理念.
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这是我们的构想。
07:57
A Chinese中文 art艺术 critic评论家 drew德鲁 this painting绘画.
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一位中国艺术评论家画了这幅画,
08:01
He put our building建造 in this painting绘画.
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他把我们的建筑放进了其中。
08:05
Can you see there's a black黑色,
tiny mountain?
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你能看到那里有个小黑山吗?
08:08
That looks容貌 very fit适合 into this painting绘画.
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它与整幅画面的关系非常和谐。
08:14
However然而, in this reality现实,
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但实际上,
08:18
our design设计 was being存在 challenged挑战
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我们的设计一直被质问:
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that it looks容貌 so different不同
from the surroundings环境.
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它看起来和周遭环境格格不入。
08:23
And they asked me to modify修改 my design设计,
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他们也要求我改进我的设计,
08:25
either color颜色 or shape形状,
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不管是颜色,还是造型,
08:28
to make the building建造
fit适合 the context上下文 better.
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让它变得不要那么突兀。
08:33
So my question was,
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所以我的问题是
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why it fits适合 this traditional传统,
you know, natural自然 context上下文,
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为什么这个建筑设计
更能与传统的自然环境融为一体,
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better than the reality现实?
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而非现实环境?
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Maybe there's something wrong错误
with the reality现实.
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可能是现实出了点问题,
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Something wrong错误 with the context上下文.
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现实环境的问题。
08:50
In the very northern北方 part部分 of China中国,
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在中国很北部的地方,
08:52
we also built内置 this opera歌剧 house.
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我们也设计了这样的歌剧院。
08:55
It's an opera歌剧 house next下一个 to the river,
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一个湿地公园中
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in the wetland湿地 park公园.
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傍水而建的歌剧院。
09:00
So we decided决定 to make this building建造
part部分 of the surrounding周围 landscape景观
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我们决定把这个建筑
设计成周围风光的一部分,
09:05
and merge合并 into the horizon地平线.
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并且将其藏入地平线中。
09:09
The building建造 literally按照字面
looks容貌 like a snow mountain.
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这建筑看起来真的和雪山没两样,
09:12
And people can walk步行 on the building建造.
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而且人们可以在这“雪山”上行走。
09:16
During the day or when there's no opera歌剧,
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在白天或是没有演出的时候,
09:19
people come here,
they can enjoy请享用 the views意见,
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人们可以来这里欣赏风景,
09:22
and they can continue继续
their journey旅程 from the park公园
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可以爬上建筑继续他们的
09:24
onto the building建造.
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公园观光。
09:27
When they reach达到 the rooftop屋顶,
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当他们到达楼顶,
09:29
there's an amphitheater圆形剧场
that's framing取景 the sky天空,
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有个圆形剧场,
为天空配上了画框。
09:32
where they can sing to the sky天空.
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在那里,
人们可以对着天空歌唱。
09:36
Inside the opera歌剧,
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歌剧院内部,
09:38
we have this lobby前厅
with a lot of natural自然 light,
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我们设计了自然采光的大厅,
09:40
and they can also enjoy请享用
this semi-indoor-outdoor半室内室外 space空间,
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人们也可以在室内空间
享受身临室外的景色,
09:45
and they can see
the beautiful美丽 view视图 around them.
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观赏环绕周围的美景。
09:50
I've been building建造 several一些 mountains,
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我最近正在建造几座山,
09:53
and here I'm trying to show显示 you
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在这里我给各位展示一下,
09:55
one building建造 that I think
looks容貌 like a cloud.
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有一座建筑我觉得看起来像云朵。
09:58
It's the Lucas卢卡斯 Museum博物馆 of Narrative叙事 Arts艺术
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这是洛杉矶正在建造的
10:01
that's being存在 constructed
in the city of Los洛杉矶 Angeles洛杉矶.
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卢卡斯叙事艺术博物馆。
10:04
It's a museum博物馆 created创建 by George乔治 Lucas卢卡斯,
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这是电影《星球大战》创始人
10:10
the creator创造者 of the "Star Wars战争" movies电影.
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乔治·卢卡斯创立的。
10:14
Why a building建造 that looks容貌 like a cloud?
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为什么这个建筑看着像云朵?
10:17
Because I think, I imagine想像,
the cloud is mysterious神秘.
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因为我幻想云朵是神秘的,
10:22
It's nature性质.
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它是自然。
10:24
It's surreal超现实主义 when this natural自然 element元件
landed登陆 in the city.
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当这个自然元素降落于城市大地时,
是非常迷离梦幻的。
10:30
And it makes品牌 you feel curious好奇 about it,
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它会让你感到好奇,
10:33
and you want to explore探索 it.
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想要去探索。
10:37
So that's how the building建造
landed登陆 on earth地球.
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这就是“云朵”如何降落于大地的。
10:42
By lifting吊装 this museum博物馆,
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通过抬高这座博物馆,
10:43
making制造 it float浮动 above以上 the ground地面,
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使它悬浮于地表,
10:46
we can free自由 up a lot of landscape景观
and space空间 underneath the building建造.
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我们可以释放很多
建筑下方的空间和风景。
10:50
And then we can, at the same相同 time,
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与此同时,我们能够
10:52
create创建 this roof屋顶 garden花园 above以上 the building建造
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在建筑上方创造一个
10:54
where you can visit访问 and enjoy请享用 the view视图.
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你可以去拜访并
欣赏风景的屋顶花园。
10:58
This museum博物馆 will be completed完成
in the year 2022,
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这个博物馆将会在 2022 年竣工,
11:02
and you're all invited邀请
when it's completed完成.
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等建造完毕,
欢迎诸位前来参观。
11:09
So after building建造 all these
mountains and clouds,
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在那些“山峦”和“云朵”建筑后,
11:13
now we're building建造 these volcanoes火山
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我们正在中国设计这些
11:15
back in China中国.
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“火山”。
11:17
This is actually其实 a huge巨大 sports体育 park公园
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这其实是一个有着四个体育馆的
11:20
with four stadiums体育场馆 in it,
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大型体育公园。
11:22
with one football足球 stadium体育场
[with] 40,000 seats in there.
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其中是一个有 4 万观众席的
足球体育馆。
11:30
So it's a very large project项目.
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所以这是一个很大的项目。
11:32
And you see from this photo照片,
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从这张照片,
11:35
you can hardly几乎不 tell where there's building建造
and where there's landscape景观.
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你很难辨别
哪里是建筑,哪里是自然风景。
11:39
So the building建造 becomes a landscape景观.
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所以建筑也成为了自然风景,
11:41
Even becomes a land土地 art艺术,
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甚至成为了地景艺术。
11:43
where people can walk步行 around the building建造,
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人们可以围绕建筑漫步,
11:45
they can climb this building建造
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可以爬上这个“火山”,
11:47
as they're wandering飘零 in this volcano火山 park公园.
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宛如他们正在一个火山公园游走。
11:54
And this rendering翻译 shows节目
one of the spaces空间 in those volcanoes火山.
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这个效果图展现了
火山间众多空间的一个。
11:58
This is actually其实 a swimming游泳的 pool
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这是一个游泳馆,
12:01
with natural自然 light coming未来 from above以上.
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自然光线能从上方进入。
12:06
So, what we're trying to create创建
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所以,我们正在尝试创造的
12:08
actually其实 is an environment环境
that blurs模糊 the boundary边界
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实际上是一个能够模糊
建筑和自然界线的环境。
12:12
in between之间 architecture建筑 and nature性质.
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12:15
So architecture建筑 is no longer
a functional实用 machine for living活的.
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这样,建筑不再是
为生存而建的功能性机器。
12:21
It also reflects反映 the nature性质 around us.
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它能反映我们周围的自然,
12:23
It also reflects反映 our soul灵魂 and spirit精神.
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也能映射我们的灵魂和精神世界。
12:27
So, as an architect建筑师, I don't think
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所以,作为一个建筑师,我认为
12:30
in the future未来 we should repeat重复
those soulless没有灵魂 matchboxes火柴盒 anymore.
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在未来,我们不该再继续
复制那些毫无灵魂的火柴盒,
12:35
I think what I'm looking for
is the opportunity机会
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我正在寻找一个机遇,
12:38
to create创建 a future未来
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去创造一个
12:40
with harmony和谐 in between之间 humans人类 and nature性质.
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人与自然和谐相处的未来。
12:44
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢。
12:46
(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
Translated by Jiasi Hao

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Ma Yansong - Architect, artist
Believing that architects should envision and build the future, Ma Yansong develops advanced designs that interpret an Eastern affinity for nature within a contemporary fashion.

Why you should listen

In 2004, architect Ma Yansong founded MAD Architects, a global architecture firm committed to developing organic and futuristic environments embodying the natural world. MAD has created a series of imaginative works across the globe that demonstrate how they envision the future city, including the Absolute Towers, Harbin Opera House and Hutong Bubble 32. 

In 2014, MAD was selected as the principal designer for the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art, making Yansong the first Chinese architect to design an overseas cultural landmark. In April 2019, the Centre Pompidou opened MAD X, a major exhibition of MAD's works that exemplifies their architectural vision and expresses the firm's core vision of a futuristic architecture, akin to dream-like earthscapes, that creates a conversation between nature, earth and sky.

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