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Jeremy Jackson - Marine ecologist
A leader in the study of the ecology and evolution of marine organisms, Jeremy Jackson is known for his deep understanding of geological time.

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Jeremy Jackson is the Ritter Professor of Oceanography and Director of the Center for Marine Biodiversity and Conservation at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography. Painting pictures of changing marine environments, particularly coral reefs and the Isthmus of Panama, Jackson's research captures the extreme environmental decline of the oceans that has accelerated in the past 200 years.

Jackson's current work focuses on the future of the world’s oceans, given overfishing, habitat destruction and ocean warming, which have fundamentally changed marine ecosystems and led to "the rise of slime." Although Jackson's work describes grim circumstances, even garnering him the nickname Dr. Doom, he believes that successful management and conservation strategies can renew the ocean’s health.

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Mission Blue Voyage

Jeremy Jackson: How we wrecked the ocean

杰瑞米·杰克逊:我们如何损毁了海洋

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在这一震撼人心的演讲中,珊瑚礁生态学家杰瑞米·杰克逊展示了今天海洋的惊人状况:过度捕捞,过热,污染,迹象表明状况还将进一步恶化。触目惊心的图片和数据提供了实证。
- Marine ecologist
A leader in the study of the ecology and evolution of marine organisms, Jeremy Jackson is known for his deep understanding of geological time. Full bio

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I'm an ecologist生态学家,
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我是一名生态学家,
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mostly大多 a coral珊瑚 reef ecologist生态学家.
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主要是珊瑚礁生态学家。
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I started开始 out in Chesapeake切萨皮克 Bay
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我的研究工作起步于Chesapeake海湾
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and went diving潜水 in the winter冬季
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我冬天出去潜水
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and became成为 a tropical热带 ecologist生态学家 overnight过夜.
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一夜之间成为一名热带生态学家
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And it was really a lot of fun开玩笑
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这项工作充满了乐趣
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for about 10 years年份.
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前后大约十年
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I mean, somebody pays支付 you
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我是说,有人付钱
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to go around and travel旅行
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让你四处旅行
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and look at some of the most
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欣赏地球上
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beautiful美丽 places地方 on the planet行星.
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风景最美的地方
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And that was what I did.
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那就是我的工作。
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And I ended结束 up in Jamaica牙买加,
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最后我到了牙买加
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in the West西 Indies印度,
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在西印度群岛
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where the coral珊瑚 reefs珊瑚礁 were really
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那儿的珊瑚礁的确是
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among其中 the most extraordinary非凡, structurally结构,
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结构上最为奇特的
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that I ever saw in my life.
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为我平生所罕见
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And this picture图片 here,
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这张照片
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it's really interesting有趣, it shows节目 two things:
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很有意思,它显示了两点。
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First of all, it's in black黑色 and white白色
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首先,它是黑白的
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because the water was so clear明确
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因为水是如此清澈
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and you could see so far,
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你可以看得很远
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and film电影 was so slow
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曝光很慢
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in the 1960s and early 70s,
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那是六十年代和七十年代早期
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you took pictures图片 in black黑色 and white白色.
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照片都是黑白的
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The other thing it shows节目 you
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它显示的另外一点
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is that, although虽然 there's this beautiful美丽
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纵然有这些
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forest森林 of coral珊瑚,
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美丽的珊瑚丛
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there are no fish in that picture图片.
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照片上却看不到鱼
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Those reefs珊瑚礁 at Discovery发现 Bay, Jamaica牙买加
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牙买加 Discovery湾的那些珊瑚礁
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were the most studied研究 coral珊瑚 reefs珊瑚礁
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是全球过去的20年中
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in the world世界 for 20 years年份.
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最受研究者关注的珊瑚礁
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We were the best最好 and the brightest.
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当时我们是最优秀最杰出的
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People came来了 to study研究 our reefs珊瑚礁 from Australia澳大利亚,
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曾经有人从澳大利亚跑来研究我们的珊瑚礁
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which哪一个 is sort分类 of funny滑稽
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这多少有些滑稽
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because now we go to theirs他们的.
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因为现在我们跑去研究他们的珊瑚礁
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And the view视图 of scientists科学家们
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科学家们关于
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about how coral珊瑚 reefs珊瑚礁 work, how they ought应该 to be,
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珊瑚礁的正常生长状态的观点
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was based基于 on these reefs珊瑚礁
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都建立在这些
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without any fish.
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不存在鱼类的珊瑚礁上
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Then, in 1980,
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然后,到了1980年
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there was a hurricane飓风, Hurricane飓风 Allen艾伦.
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一场飓风袭来,飓风Allen
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I put half the lab实验室
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我把半个实验室
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up in my house.
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搬到了我家里
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The wind blew自爆 very strong强大.
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狂风大作
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The waves波浪 were 25
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海浪高达25
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to 50 feet high.
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到50英尺
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And the reefs珊瑚礁 disappeared消失, and new islands岛屿 formed形成,
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珊瑚礁消失了,新的岛屿形成了
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and we thought, "Well, we're real真实 smart聪明.
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我们想,“哦,我们真是太聪明了。
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We know that hurricanes飓风
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我们知道飓风
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have always happened发生 in the past过去."
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历来都在发生。”
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And we published发表 a paper in Science科学,
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我们在《科学》杂志发表了一篇论文
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the first time that anybody任何人 ever
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那是第一次有人
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described描述 the destruction毁坏
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描述珊瑚礁
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on a coral珊瑚 reef by a major重大的 hurricane飓风.
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被一场大飓风毁灭的情景
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And we predicted预料到的 what would happen发生,
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我们对未来作出了预测
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and we got it all wrong错误.
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结果我们全盘皆错
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And the reason原因 was
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原因就是
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because of overfishing过度捕捞,
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过度捕捞
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and the fact事实 that a last common共同 grazer食草动物,
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还有就是最后一个食藻生物
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a sea urchin顽童, died死亡.
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海胆死了
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And within a few少数 months个月
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海胆死后几个月之内
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after that sea urchin顽童 dying垂死, the seaweed海草 started开始 to grow增长.
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海藻就开始生长
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And that is the same相同 reef;
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那是同一个珊瑚礁
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that's the same相同 reef 15 years年份 ago;
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15年前的那个珊瑚礁
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that's the same相同 reef today今天.
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这是今天的同一个珊瑚礁
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The coral珊瑚 reefs珊瑚礁 of the north coast of Jamaica牙买加
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牙买加北海岸的珊瑚礁
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have a few少数 percent百分 live生活 coral珊瑚 cover
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还剩下百分之几的活珊瑚覆盖率
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and a lot of seaweed海草 and slime粘液.
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和大量的海藻及烂泥
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And that's more or less the story故事
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这大致就是
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of the coral珊瑚 reefs珊瑚礁 of the Caribbean加勒比,
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加勒比海珊瑚礁的故事
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and increasingly日益, tragically可悲,
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并悲剧性地日益成为
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the coral珊瑚 reefs珊瑚礁 worldwide全世界.
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全球珊瑚礁共同的命运
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Now, that's my little, depressing压抑 story故事.
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这就是我悲伤的小故事
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All of us in our 60s and 70s
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我们所有的人在六七十年代
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have comparable可比 depressing压抑 stories故事.
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都有类似悲伤的故事
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There are tens of thousands数千
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成千上万个
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of those stories故事 out there,
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这样的故事在流传着
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and it's really hard to conjure变戏法 up
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让人很难唤起
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much of a sense of well-being福利,
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任何乐观的情绪
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because it just keeps保持 getting得到 worse更差.
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因为情况在日益恶化
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And the reason原因 it keeps保持 getting得到 worse更差
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日益恶化的原因是
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is that after a natural自然 catastrophe灾难,
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在自然灾害过后
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like a hurricane飓风,
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例如一场飓风
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it used to be that there was
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以前通常会有
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some kind of successional演替 sequence序列 of recovery复苏,
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一连串的恢复过程
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but what's going on now is that
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但现在的情况是
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overfishing过度捕捞 and pollution污染 and climate气候 change更改
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过度捕捞、污染和气候变化
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are all interacting互动
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彼此相互作用
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in a way that prevents防止 that.
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阻止这一过程的发生
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And so I'm going to sort分类 of go through通过
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因此我想梳理
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and talk about those three
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并谈论一下
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kinds of things.
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这三件事情
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We hear a lot about
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我们经常听到关于
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the collapse坍方 of cod鳕鱼.
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鳕鱼的灭绝
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It's difficult to imagine想像 that
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我们很难想象
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two, or some historians历史学家 would say three world世界 wars战争
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两次,有些历史学家说三次
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were fought战斗 during the colonial殖民 era时代
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殖民时期的世界大战都是为了
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for the control控制 of cod鳕鱼.
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争夺对鳕鱼的控制
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Cod鳕鱼 fed美联储 most of the people of Western西 Europe欧洲.
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鳕鱼养活了大部分西欧人
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It fed美联储 the slaves奴隶
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也养活了
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brought to the Antilles荷属安的列斯,
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被遣送到安地列斯群岛上的奴隶
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the song歌曲 "Jamaica牙买加 Farewell告别" --
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有首歌叫“告别牙买加”
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"Ackee西非荔枝果 rice白饭 salt fish are nice不错" --
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"阿开果饭和咸鳕鱼很美味”
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is an emblem of the importance重要性
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表明了来自加拿大东北部的
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of salt cod鳕鱼 from northeastern东北方 Canada加拿大.
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咸鳕鱼的重要性
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It all collapsed倒塌 in the 80s and the 90s:
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这一切都在八十和九十年代土崩瓦解
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35,000 people lost丢失 their jobs工作.
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35000人丢掉了工作
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And that was the beginning开始
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那仅仅是
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of a kind of serial串行 depletion消耗
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一系列枯竭的开始
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from bigger and tastier美味 species种类
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从味道鲜美的大型种类
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to smaller and not-so-tasty不那么好吃 species种类,
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到味道一般的小型种类
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from species种类 that were near to home
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从家门口的种类
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to species种类 that were all around the world世界,
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到全球各地的种类
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and what have you.
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你还剩下什么。
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It's a little hard to understand理解 that,
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这可能不容易理解
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because you can go to a Costco好事多 in the United联合的 States状态
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因为你们可以在美国的Costco
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and buy购买 cheap低廉 fish.
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买到便宜的鱼
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You ought应该 to read the label标签 to find out where it came来了 from,
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你们应该阅读一下标签看它来自何处
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but it's still cheap低廉,
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但鱼还是很便宜
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and everybody每个人 thinks it's okay.
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所有人都觉得没事
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It's hard to communicate通信 this,
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这个信息很难传达
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and one way that I think is really interesting有趣
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因此我认为一种有趣的方式是
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is to talk about sport运动 fish,
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讨论一下垂钓运动
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because people like to go out and catch抓住 fish.
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因为人们喜欢出去钓鱼
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It's one of those things.
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就像这个
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This picture图片 here shows节目 the trophy fish,
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照片上显示的是获胜的鱼
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the biggest最大 fish caught抓住
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人们钓到的最大的鱼
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by people who pay工资 a lot of money
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有人花了很多钱
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to get on a boat,
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开着船
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go to a place地点 off of Key West西 in Florida佛罗里达,
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来到福罗里达州 Key West 附近的一个地方
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drink a lot of beer啤酒,
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喝很多啤酒
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throw a lot of hooks挂钩 and lines线 into the water,
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往水里扔一大堆鱼钩和鱼线
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come back with the biggest最大 and the best最好 fish,
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结果钓到了最大最好的鱼
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and the champion冠军 trophy fish
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获奖的这条冠军鱼
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are put on this board, where people take a picture图片,
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就被摆到船上, 让人拍照
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and this guy is obviously明显
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显然这个家伙
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really excited兴奋 about that fish.
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对那条鱼激动万分
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Well, that's what it's like now,
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好了,那就是眼下的情景
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but this is what it was like in the 1950s
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但这个是五十年代的情景
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from the same相同 boat in the same相同 place地点
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同样的船同样的地方
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on the same相同 board on the same相同 dock码头.
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同一个码头同一个船舷
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The trophy fish
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获胜的鱼
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were so big
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是那么大
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that you couldn't不能 put any of those small fish up on it.
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那些小鱼根本没法比。
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And the average平均 size尺寸 trophy fish
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获胜的鱼的平均重量
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weighed称重 250 to 300 pounds英镑, goliath巨人 grouper石斑鱼,
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在250到300磅之间,巨型鲈鱼
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and if you wanted to go out and kill something,
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你如果想外出捕捞点什么
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you could pretty漂亮 much count计数 on
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你几乎肯定可以
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being存在 able能够 to catch抓住 one of those fish.
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捕到一条那样的鱼
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And they tasted really good.
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而且味道极其鲜美
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And people paid支付 less in 1950 dollars美元
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人们在1950年捕捞大鱼
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to catch抓住 that
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所花的钱
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than what people pay工资 now
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比现在抓小鱼
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to catch抓住 those little, tiny fish.
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所花的钱还少
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And that's everywhere到处.
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到处都是如此
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It's not just the fish, though虽然,
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不仅仅是鱼类
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that are disappearing消失.
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正在消失
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Industrial产业 fishing钓鱼 uses使用 big stuff东东,
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工业化捕捞用的是大家伙
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big machinery机械.
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大机器
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We use nets that are 20 miles英里 long.
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我们使用20英里长的渔网
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We use longlines排长龙
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极长的鱼线
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that have one million百万 or two million百万 hooks挂钩.
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带有100万到200万个鱼钩
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And we trawl拖网,
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我们使用拖网
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which哪一个 means手段 to take something
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那就是说使用一个
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the size尺寸 of a tractor拖拉机 trailer预告片 truck卡车
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牵引式挂车那么大的东西
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that weighs thousands数千 and thousands数千 of pounds英镑,
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重达几千磅
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put it on a big chain,
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挂上巨大的链子
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and drag拖动 it across横过 the sea floor地板
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从海底横扫而过
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to stir搅拌 up the bottom底部 and catch抓住 the fish.
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翻起海床来捕捉鱼类
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Think of it as
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可以把这想象成
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being存在 kind of the bulldozing推土 of a city
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推倒一座城市
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or of a forest森林,
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或者一个森林
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because it clears清零 it away.
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因为一切被一扫而光
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And the habitat栖息地 destruction毁坏
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is unbelievable难以置信的.
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简直令人难以置信
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This is a photograph照片,
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这是一张照片
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a typical典型 photograph照片,
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一张典型的照片
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of what the continental大陆 shelves货架
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显示了全球
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of the world世界 look like.
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大陆架的状况
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You can see the rows in the bottom底部,
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the way you can see the rows
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就好象你们能看到
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in a field领域 that has just been plowed
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刚被犁过的
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to plant corn玉米.
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玉米地
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What that was, was a forest森林 of sponges海绵 and coral珊瑚,
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那里曾经是海绵和珊瑚丛
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which哪一个 is a critical危急 habitat栖息地
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那是鱼类生长
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for the development发展 of fish.
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至关重要的栖息地
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What it is now is mud,
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现在却成了泥土
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and the area of the ocean海洋 floor地板
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全球海底
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that has been transformed改造 from forest森林
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从丛林变为
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to level水平 mud, to parking停車處 lot,
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停车场式泥地的海域
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is equivalent当量 to the entire整个 area
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相当于
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of all the forests森林
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人类历史上
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that have ever been cut down
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被砍伐的
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on all of the earth地球
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全球的
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in the history历史 of humanity人性.
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所有森林的面积。
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We've我们已经 managed管理 to do that
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这一点我们是在
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in the last 100 to 150 years年份.
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过去100到150年间完成的
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We tend趋向 to think of oil spills泄漏
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我们总是想到石油泄漏
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and mercury
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或者水银
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and we hear a lot about plastic塑料 these days.
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现在人们也经常谈论塑料制品
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And all of that stuff东东 is really disgusting讨厌,
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所有这些都很可恨
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but what's really insidious阴险
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但真正隐伏的危险
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is the biological生物 pollution污染 that happens发生
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是生物污染
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because of the magnitude大小 of the shifts转变
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来源于它对
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that it causes原因
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整个生态系统造成的
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to entire整个 ecosystems生态系统.
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巨大的变迁
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And I'm going to just talk very briefly简要地
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about two kinds of biological生物 pollution污染:
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两种生物污染
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one is introduced介绍 species种类
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一是入侵物种
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and the other is what comes from nutrients营养成分.
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另外一个来源于营养素
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So this is the infamous臭名昭著
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这就是臭名昭著的
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Caulerpa taxifoliataxifolia,
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杉叶蕨藻
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the so-called所谓 killer凶手 algae藻类.
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所谓的致命海藻
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A book was written书面 about it.
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有整整一本书写的就是这个
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It's a bit of an embarrassment困窘.
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实在是令人尴尬
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It was accidentally偶然 released发布
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它在偶然之间
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from the aquarium水族馆 in Monaco摩纳哥,
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被从摩纳哥的一个水族馆释放出来
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it was bred孕育 to be cold tolerant宽容
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它耐寒性强
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to have in peoples人们 aquaria水族馆.
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用于装点水族馆
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It's very pretty漂亮,
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非常漂亮
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and it has rapidly急速 started开始
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它开始迅速地
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to overgrow长满
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过度生长
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the once一旦 very rich丰富
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侵占了一度
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biodiversity生物多样性 of the
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生物种类繁多的
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northwestern西北方 Mediterranean地中海.
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地中海西北部
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I don't know how many许多 of you remember记得 the movie电影
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我不知道你们中间有多少人记得这部电影
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"The Little Shop of Horrors恐怖,"
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"异形奇花”
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but this is the plant of "The Little Shop of Horrors恐怖."
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这就是"异形奇花”中的植物
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But, instead代替 of devouring吞食 the people in the shop,
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它没有吞噬小店里的人们
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what it's doing is overgrowing过度生长
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而是疯狂生长
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and smothering
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扼杀了
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virtually实质上 all of the bottom-dwelling底栖 life
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几乎所有的海底生物
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of the entire整个 northwestern西北方
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遍及整个
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Mediterranean地中海 Sea.
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地中海西北部
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We don't know anything that eats it,
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我们还未发现能够消灭它的东西
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we're trying to do all sorts排序 of genetics遗传学
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我们在尝试各种基因工程
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and figure数字 out something that could be doneDONE,
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来寻找解决办法
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but, as it stands站立, it's the monster怪物 from hell地狱,
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但是,就目前来说,它就是来自地狱的恶魔
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about which哪一个 nobody没有人 knows知道 what to do.
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人们对它无能为力
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Now another另一个 form形成 of pollution污染
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现在我们来看另一种污染
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that's biological生物 pollution污染
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生物污染
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is what happens发生 from excess过量 nutrients营养成分.
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来源于过量的营养素
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The green绿色 revolution革命,
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绿色革命
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all of this artificial人造 nitrogen fertilizer肥料, we use too much of it.
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让我们过度使用人工氮肥
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It's subsidized补贴, which哪一个 is one of the reasons原因 we used too much of it.
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政府补助,是我们过度使用的原因之一
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It runs运行 down the rivers河流,
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它沿河流而下
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and it feeds供稿 the plankton浮游生物,
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被浮游生物吸食
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the little microscopic显微 plant cells细胞
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就是那些极小的植物细胞
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in the coastal沿海 water.
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生长于沿海水域
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But since以来 we ate all the oysters生蚝
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但是由于我们吃光了所有的牡蛎
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and we ate all the fish that would eat the plankton浮游生物,
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和所有吞食这些浮游生物的鱼类
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there's nothing to eat the plankton浮游生物
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没有生物再去吞食这些浮游生物
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and there's more and more of it,
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所以它们越长越多
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so it dies of old age年龄,
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直到自然死亡
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which哪一个 is unheard闻所未闻 of for plankton浮游生物.
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对浮游生物来说这是前所未有的
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And when it dies, it falls下降 to the bottom底部
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死亡后它沉入水底
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and then it rots腐烂,
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然后腐烂
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which哪一个 means手段 that bacteria break打破 it down.
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这就意味着细菌会将它分解
10:18
And in the process处理
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在此过程中
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they use up all the oxygen,
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它们耗尽了所有的氧气
10:22
and in using运用 up all the oxygen
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在所有的氧气被耗尽之后
10:24
they make the environment环境 utterly完全 lethal致命
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就给任何无法游走的生物
10:26
for anything that can't swim游泳 away.
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造成一个完全致命的环境
10:28
So, what we end结束 up with
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最后我们所得到的
10:30
is a microbial微生物 zoo动物园
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就是一个微生物动物园
10:32
dominated占主导地位 by bacteria
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被细菌所控制
10:34
and jellyfish海蜇, as you see
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还有水母,你们看
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on the left in front面前 of you.
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在你们的左前方
10:38
And the only fishery渔业 left --
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仅存的一个渔场
10:40
and it is a commercial广告 fishery渔业 --
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商业渔场
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is the jellyfish海蜇 fishery渔业
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是个水母渔场
10:44
you see on the right, where there used to be prawns对虾.
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再看你们的右边,曾经有过对虾
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Even in Newfoundland纽芬兰
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甚至在纽芬兰岛
10:48
where we used to catch抓住 cod鳕鱼,
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我们曾经捕捞鳕鱼的地方
10:50
we now have a jellyfish海蜇 fishery渔业.
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现在也有一个水母渔场
10:53
And another另一个 version of this sort分类 of thing
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这类状况的另一个翻版
10:55
is what is often经常 called red tides潮汐
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就是我们经常所说的红潮
10:57
or toxic有毒的 blooms绽放.
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即有毒水华
10:59
That picture图片 on the left is just staggering踉跄 to me.
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这张照片简直触目惊心
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I have talked about it a million百万 times,
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我已经谈论过无数次了
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but it's unbelievable难以置信的.
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但它还是令人难以置信
11:06
In the upper right of that picture图片 on the left
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在左边那张照片的右上角
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is almost几乎 the Mississippi密西西比州 Delta三角洲,
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是密西西比三角洲
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and the lower降低 left of that picture图片
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那张照片的左下角
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is the Texas-Mexico德克萨斯州与墨西哥 border边境.
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是德克萨斯和墨西哥交界处
11:14
You're looking at the entire整个
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你们所看到的是整个
11:16
northwestern西北方 Gulf海湾 of Mexico墨西哥;
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墨西哥湾西北部
11:18
you're looking at one toxic有毒的
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你们所看到的是一个有毒的
11:20
dinoflagellate甲藻 bloom盛开 that can kill fish,
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可以杀死鱼类的腰鞭毛虫水华
11:22
made制作 by that beautiful美丽 little creature生物
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就是那些漂亮的小生物
11:24
on the lower降低 right.
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在右下角
11:26
And in the upper right you see this
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在右上角你们可以看到
11:28
black黑色 sort分类 of cloud
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黑色的云团
11:30
moving移动 ashore岸上.
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向岸边移动
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That's the same相同 species种类.
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那是同样的生物
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And as it comes to shore支撑 and the wind blows打击,
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当它飘到岸边,风开始刮起
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and little droplets液滴 of the water get into the air空气,
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小水珠进入空气
11:40
the emergency rooms客房 of all the hospitals医院 fill up
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所有医院的急症室就挤满了
11:43
with people with acute急性 respiratory呼吸 distress苦难.
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急性呼吸窘迫症患者
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And that's retirement退休 homes家园
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那是老人院
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on the west西 coast of Florida佛罗里达.
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在佛罗里达西海岸
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A friend朋友 and I did this thing in Hollywood好莱坞
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我和一个朋友在好莱坞演讲
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we called Hollywood好莱坞 ocean海洋 night,
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我们称之为好莱坞海洋之夜
11:53
and I was trying to figure数字 out how to
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我在琢磨着怎样
11:55
explain说明 to actors演员 what's going on.
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向演员们解释目前的状况
11:57
And I said,
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我说,
11:59
"So, imagine想像 you're in a movie电影 called 'Escape'逃逸 from Malibu'马里布'
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“好的,想象你身处一部叫做‘逃离马里布海滩’的电影
12:02
because all the beautiful美丽 people have moved移动
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因为所有的俊男美女都
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to North Dakota达科他州, where it's clean清洁 and safe安全.
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搬到了干净安全的北达科它州
12:06
And the only people who are left there
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这儿剩下的
12:08
are the people who can't afford给予
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都是那些没钱
12:11
to move移动 away from the coast,
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搬离海边的人
12:13
because the coast, instead代替 of being存在 paradise天堂,
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因为海边不再是天堂
12:16
is harmful有害 to your health健康."
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而会摧毁你的健康。”
12:18
And then this is amazing惊人.
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这又是触目惊心。
12:20
It was when I was on holiday假日 last early autumn秋季 in France法国.
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这是我去年初秋在法国度假时拍的
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This is from the coast of Brittany布列塔尼,
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这是布里特尼海岸
12:25
which哪一个 is being存在 enveloped笼罩
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被覆盖在
12:27
in this green绿色, algal藻类 slime粘液.
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一片绿色海藻泥下
12:30
The reason原因 that it attracted吸引 so much attention注意,
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它之所以引起这么多关注的原因
12:33
besides除了 the fact事实 that it's disgusting讨厌,
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除了它确实极其恶心之外
12:36
is that sea birds鸟类 flying飞行 over it
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也是因为海鸟飞过时
12:38
are asphyxiated窒息 by the smell and die,
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因臭味窒息而亡
12:41
and a farmer农民 died死亡 of it,
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有一个农民也这样死去,
12:43
and you can imagine想像 the scandal丑闻 that happened发生.
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你们可以想象有此而滋生的丑闻
12:45
And so there's this war战争
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一场战争
12:47
between之间 the farmers农民
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在农民
12:49
and the fishermen渔民 about it all,
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和渔夫之间爆发
12:51
and the net result结果 is that
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最后的结果是
12:53
the beaches海滩 of Brittany布列塔尼 have to be bulldozed推土机推平 of this stuff东东
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布里特尼海滩必须定期地
12:56
on a regular定期 basis基础.
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铲除这些东西
12:58
And then, of course课程, there's climate气候 change更改,
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当然还有气候变化
13:00
and we all know about climate气候 change更改.
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我们都知道气候变化
13:02
I guess猜测 the iconic标志性的 figure数字 of it
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我想最具标志性的形象就是
13:04
is the melting融化 of the ice
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就是北极海域
13:06
in the Arctic北极 Sea.
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冰层的融化
13:08
Think about the thousands数千 and thousands数千 of people who died死亡
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想想那成千上万个
13:11
trying to find the Northwest西北 Passage通道.
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为寻找西北航道而死去的人们
13:14
Well, the Northwest西北 Passage通道 is already已经 there.
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现在西北航道就在那里
13:16
I think it's sort分类 of funny滑稽;
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我觉得这有点滑稽
13:18
it's on the Siberian西伯利亚 coast,
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它地处西伯利亚海岸
13:20
maybe the Russians俄罗斯 will charge收费 tolls过路费.
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也许俄国政府应当征收过路费
13:23
The governments政府 of the world世界
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全世界的政府
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are taking服用 this really seriously认真地.
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都在严肃对待这件事情
13:27
The military军事 of the Arctic北极 nations国家
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北极附近国家的军队
13:30
is taking服用 it really seriously认真地.
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都在严肃对待这件事情
13:33
For all the denial否认 of climate气候 change更改
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不管各国领导人
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by government政府 leaders领导者,
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如何否认气候变化
13:37
the CIA中央情报局
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美国中情局
13:39
and the navies海军 of Norway挪威
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挪威海军
13:41
and the U.S. and Canada加拿大, whatever随你
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美国和加拿大的海军,等等
13:44
are busily忙着 thinking思维 about
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都在忙着考虑
13:46
how they will secure安全 their territory领土
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如何从他们的角度
13:49
in this inevitability必然性
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在这个无法避免的情势下
13:52
from their point of view视图.
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守住自己的地盘
13:54
And, of course课程, Arctic北极 communities社区 are toast烤面包.
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当然,北极群落就完蛋了
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The other kinds of effects效果 of climate气候 change更改 --
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气候变化的其它效应--
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this is coral珊瑚 bleaching. It's a beautiful美丽 picture图片, right?
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这是珊瑚白化。右边,是一张美丽的照片
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All that white白色 coral珊瑚.
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那么多白色的珊瑚
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Except it's supposed应该 to be brown棕色.
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只不过它们本来应该是棕色的。
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What happens发生 is that
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事情的来由是
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the corals珊瑚虫 are a symbiosis合作关系,
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珊瑚是一种共生生物
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and they have these little algal藻类 cells细胞
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有些微小的藻类细胞
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that live生活 inside them.
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生存在其内部
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And the algae藻类 give the corals珊瑚虫 sugar,
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藻类为珊瑚提供糖分
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and the corals珊瑚虫 give the algae藻类
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珊瑚为藻类提供
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nutrients营养成分 and protection保护.
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养分和保护
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But when it gets得到 too hot,
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但当温度过高时
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the algae藻类 can't make the sugar.
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藻类就无法制造糖分
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The corals珊瑚虫 say, "You cheated被骗. You didn't pay工资 your rent出租."
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珊瑚就说,”你这个骗子,你不交房租。“
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They kick them out, and then they die.
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于是就把它们赶出去,于是它们就死了。
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Not all of them die; some of them survive生存,
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不是所有都死;有些存活下来了。
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some more are surviving幸存,
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还有更多的在存活着,
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but it's really bad news新闻.
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但这确实是个坏消息。
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To try and give you a sense of this,
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让我试着帮助你们来感知一下,
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imagine想像 you go camping露营 in July七月
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想象你七月份去露营
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somewhere某处 in Europe欧洲 or in North America美国,
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在欧洲或者北美的什么地方
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and you wake唤醒 up the next下一个 morning早上, and you look around you,
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第二天早上醒来,你环顾四周,
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and you see that 80 percent百分 of the trees树木,
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发现百分之八十的树
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as far as you can see,
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在你视线所及范围内
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have dropped下降 their leaves树叶 and are standing常设 there naked.
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都已经掉光了树叶,光秃秃地立在那儿
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And you come home, and you discover发现
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你回到家,发现
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that 80 percent百分 of all the trees树木
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北美和欧洲
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in North America美国 and in Europe欧洲
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百分之八十的树
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have dropped下降 their leaves树叶.
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都已经掉光了它们的叶子
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And then you read in the paper a few少数 weeks later后来,
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然后几个星期之后你在报纸上看到
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"Oh, by the way, a quarter25美分硬币 of those died死亡."
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噢,顺便说一下,四分之一的树都死了。
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Well, that's what happened发生 in the Indian印度人 Ocean海洋
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那就是印度洋所发生的状况
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during the 1998 El萨尔瓦多 Nino尼诺,
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在1998年厄尔尼诺现象过程中,
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an area vastly大大 greater更大
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在一个面积大大超过
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than the size尺寸 of North America美国 and Europe欧洲,
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北美和欧洲的区域
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when 80 percent百分 of all the corals珊瑚虫 bleached漂白
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百分之八十的珊瑚发生了白化
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and a quarter25美分硬币 of them died死亡.
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四分之一珊瑚死去。
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And then the really scary害怕 thing
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然而真正可怕的事情是
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about all of this --
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所有这些
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the overfishing过度捕捞, the pollution污染 and the climate气候 change更改 --
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过度捕捞,污染,和气候变化
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is that each thing doesn't happen发生 in a vacuum真空.
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每件事都并非发生在真空里,
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But there are these, what we call, positive feedbacks反馈,
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但是因为存在着所谓的积极反馈
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the synergies协同效应 among其中 them
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它们之间的协同作用
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that make the whole整个 vastly大大 greater更大
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使得整体效应远远大于
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than the sum of the parts部分.
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局部的总和。
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And the great scientific科学 challenge挑战
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最大的科学挑战
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for people like me in thinking思维 about all this,
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对于象我这样思考这些问题的人
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is do we know how
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就是我们是否知道如何
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to put Humpty矮胖 Dumpty矮胖子 back together一起 again?
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把摔碎的蛋形人重新修复?
15:49
I mean, because we, at this point, we can protect保护 it.
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我是说,因为我们现在还可以保护它。
15:52
But what does that mean?
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但那意味着什么?
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We really don't know.
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我们真的不知道
15:57
So what are the oceans海洋 going to be like
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那么在20或50年之后
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in 20 or 50 years年份?
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海洋会是一副什么景象?
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Well, there won't惯于 be any fish
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不会再有鱼
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except for minnows小鱼,
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除了一些小鲦鱼,
16:07
and the water will be pretty漂亮 dirty,
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海水会很肮脏
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and all those kinds of things
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所有那些东西
16:12
and full充分 of mercury, etc等等., etc等等.
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都充斥着水银,等等,等等
16:17
And dead zones will get bigger and bigger
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死亡区域会越变越大
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and they'll他们会 start开始 to merge合并,
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然后它们开始汇合
16:21
and we can imagine想像 something like
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于是我们可以想象类似
16:23
the dead-zonification死zonification
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全球沿海地区的
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of the global全球, coastal沿海 ocean海洋.
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划分出死亡区域。
16:28
Then you sure won't惯于 want to eat fish that were raised上调 in it,
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你肯定不会想吃那儿出产的鱼,
16:31
because it would be a kind of
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因为那简直就是
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gastronomic美食 Russian俄语 roulette轮盘赌.
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饮食的死亡赌博游戏
16:35
Sometimes有时 you have a toxic有毒的 bloom盛开;
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有时你会碰上有毒水华
16:37
sometimes有时 you don't.
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有时又没有
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That doesn't sell.
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那是不会有市场的
16:41
The really scary害怕 things though虽然
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但是真正可怕的
16:43
are the physical物理, chemical化学,
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是正在发生的物理的,化学的
16:46
oceanographic海洋学 things that are happening事件.
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和海洋学的变化。
16:49
As the surface表面 of the ocean海洋 gets得到 warmer回暖,
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当海洋表面温度升高,
16:52
the water is lighter打火机 when it's warmer回暖,
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海水变轻,
16:54
it becomes harder更难 and harder更难
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海洋变得越来越
16:56
to turn the ocean海洋 over.
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不易翻转。
16:58
We say it becomes
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我们称之为
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more strongly非常 stratified分层.
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越来越严重的层化
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The consequence后果 of that is that
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其后果是
17:04
all those nutrients营养成分
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所有的养分
17:06
that fuel汽油 the great anchoveta鯷鱼 fisheries渔业,
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那些供给大型鳀鱼渔场,
17:09
of the sardines沙丁鱼 of California加州
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加州沙丁渔场,
17:11
or in Peru秘鲁 or whatever随你,
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秘鲁或其它地方渔场的养分
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those slow down
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都放慢了速度,
17:16
and those fisheries渔业 collapse坍方.
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那些渔场就倒闭了。
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And, at the same相同 time,
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同时
17:20
water from the surface表面, which哪一个 is rich丰富 in oxygen,
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表面氧气充足的海水
17:23
doesn't make it down
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无法下沉,
17:27
and the ocean海洋 turns into a desert沙漠.
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海洋就变成了沙漠。
17:30
So the question is: How are we all
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因此问题是:我们应该如何
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going to respond响应 to this?
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对此作出应对?
17:34
And we can do
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我们可以
17:36
all sorts排序 of things to fix固定 it,
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做各种事情来进行补救,
17:38
but in the final最后 analysis分析,
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但最终,
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the thing we really need to fix固定
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我们最需要补救的
17:42
is ourselves我们自己.
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是我们自己。
17:44
It's not about the fish; it's not about the pollution污染;
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这不是鱼,不是污染;
17:47
it's not about the climate气候 change更改.
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也不是气候变化。
17:49
It's about us
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而是我们自己。
17:51
and our greed贪心 and our need for growth发展
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我们的贪婪和对增长的需求
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and our inability无力 to imagine想像 a world世界
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以及我们无法想象
17:57
that is different不同 from the selfish自私 world世界
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一个不同于我们今天所生活的
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we live生活 in today今天.
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自私的世界。
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So the question is: Will we respond响应 to this or not?
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问题在于:我们是否将对此作出应对?
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I would say that the future未来 of life
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我要说生命的未来
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and the dignity尊严 of human人的 beings众生
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和人类的尊严
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depends依靠 on our doing that.
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取决于我们作出回应。
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Thank you. (Applause掌声)
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谢谢。
Translated by Sylvia Cao
Reviewed by Annie Chen

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Jeremy Jackson - Marine ecologist
A leader in the study of the ecology and evolution of marine organisms, Jeremy Jackson is known for his deep understanding of geological time.

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Jeremy Jackson is the Ritter Professor of Oceanography and Director of the Center for Marine Biodiversity and Conservation at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography. Painting pictures of changing marine environments, particularly coral reefs and the Isthmus of Panama, Jackson's research captures the extreme environmental decline of the oceans that has accelerated in the past 200 years.

Jackson's current work focuses on the future of the world’s oceans, given overfishing, habitat destruction and ocean warming, which have fundamentally changed marine ecosystems and led to "the rise of slime." Although Jackson's work describes grim circumstances, even garnering him the nickname Dr. Doom, he believes that successful management and conservation strategies can renew the ocean’s health.

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