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Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala - Economist
Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala is a respected global economist.

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Okonjo-Iweala was the Finance Minister of Nigeria, Africa’s largest economy, from 2003 to 2006, and then briefly the country’s Foreign Affairs Minister, the first woman to hold either position. From 2011 to 2015 she was again named Minister of Finance and Coordinating Minister for the Economy of Nigeria. Between those terms, from 2007 to 2011, she was one of the managing director of the World Bank and a candidate to the organization’s presidency. She is now a senior advisor at financial advisory and asset management firm Lazard, and she chairs the Board of the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization. At the World Bank, she worked for change in Africa and assistance for low-income countries. As Finance Minister, she attacked corruption to make Nigeria more transparent and desirable for investment and jobs, an activism that attracted criticism from circles opposed to reform.

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Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala: Want to help Africa? Do business here

恩高濟‧歐康卓-伊威拉談非洲的商機

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關於非洲,我們有不少負面印象:饑荒和疾病、衝突和貪腐。然而,恩高濟‧歐康卓-伊威拉告訴我們非洲國家不為人知的一面:關於改革、經濟成長和商業機會的事例。
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00:30
Thank you very much, Chris克里斯. Everybody每個人 who came來了 up here
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非常感謝克里斯. 每個上來這個講臺的人
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said they were scared害怕. I don't know if I'm scared害怕,
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都說他們很緊張, 我不確定自己會不會緊張
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but this is my first time of addressing解決 an audience聽眾 like this.
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但這是我第一次對這麼特別的觀眾群演講
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And I don't have any smart聰明 technology技術 for you to look at.
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我的演講不使用任何新穎的科技工具
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There are no slides幻燈片, so you'll你會 just have to be content內容 with me.
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也沒有投影片, 所以你們只能聽我說
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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What I want to do this morning早上 is share分享 with you a couple一對 of stories故事
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我今天主要想和大家分享幾則案例
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and talk about a different不同 Africa非洲.
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並談談不同於你們印象中的非洲
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Already已經 this morning早上 there were some allusions典故 to the Africa非洲
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提到非洲, 人們往往聯想到
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that you hear about all the time: the Africa非洲 of HIVHIV/AIDS艾滋病,
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HIV 與愛滋病的非洲,
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the Africa非洲 of malaria瘧疾, the Africa非洲 of poverty貧窮, the Africa非洲 of conflict衝突,
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瘧疾的非洲, 貧窮的非洲, 衝突不斷的非洲
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and the Africa非洲 of disasters災害.
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還有充滿災難的非洲
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While it is true真正 that those things are going on,
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沒錯, 這些都是事實
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there's an Africa非洲 that you don't hear about very much.
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但這些並不是非洲的全貌
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And sometimes有時 I'm puzzled困惑, and I ask myself why.
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有時候我覺得疑惑, 思考為什麼會如此
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This is the Africa非洲 that is changing改變, that Chris克里斯 alluded暗示 to.
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因為這樣的非洲正在改變, 如同克里斯所說
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This is the Africa非洲 of opportunity機會.
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非洲充滿機會
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This is the Africa非洲 where people want to take charge收費 of
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非洲的人們想靠自己的力量
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their own擁有 futures期貨 and their own擁有 destinies命運.
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改變自己的未來和命運
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And this is the Africa非洲 where people are looking for partnerships夥伴關係
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為達成目標, 非洲的人們尋求合作
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to do this. That's what I want to talk about today今天.
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這就是我今天的主題
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And I want to start開始 by telling告訴 you
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我想以一則案例做開頭
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a story故事 about that change更改 in Africa非洲.
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這個案例標誌著非洲的轉變
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On 15th of September九月 2005, Mr先生. DiepreyeDiepreye AlamieyeseighaAlamieyeseigha,
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2005 年 9 月 15 日, 奈及利亞前州長
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a governor州長 of one of the oil-rich石油資源豐富 states狀態 of Nigeria尼日利亞,
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Diepreye Alamieyeseigha 在倫敦
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was arrested被捕 by the London倫敦 Metropolitan宗主 Police警察 on a visit訪問 to London倫敦.
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遭倫敦大都會警察局逮捕
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He was arrested被捕 because there were transfers轉讓 of eight million百萬 dollars美元
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他涉嫌盜用 800 萬美元
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that went into some dormant休眠 accounts賬戶
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透過秘密帳戶洗錢
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that belonged屬於 to him and his family家庭.
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將贓款匯進自己和家人的戶頭
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This arrest逮捕 occurred發生 because there was cooperation合作
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本次案件為倫敦大都會警察局
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between之間 the London倫敦 Metropolitan宗主 Police警察
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與奈及利亞經濟金融犯罪委員會聯手合作
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and the Economic經濟 and Financial金融 Crimes犯罪 Commission佣金 of Nigeria尼日利亞 --
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由能幹又勇敢的努胡‧瑞巴杜領軍
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led by one of our most able能夠 and courageous勇敢 people: Mr先生. Nuhu南湖 Ribadu利巴.
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成功在倫敦將 Diepreye Alamieyeseigha
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AlamieyeseighaAlamieyeseigha was arraigned過堂 in London倫敦.
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逮捕歸案
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Due應有 to some slip-ups閃失, he managed管理 to escape逃逸 dressed連衣裙的 as a woman女人
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Alamieyeseigha 原本想扮女裝
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and ran from London倫敦 back to Nigeria尼日利亞 where,
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從倫敦逃回奈及利亞, 但沒有成功
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according根據 to our constitution憲法, those in office辦公室
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和許多國家一樣, 我們的憲法規定
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as governors州長, president主席 -- as in many許多 countries國家 --
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政府官員及總統享有刑事豁免權
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have immunity免疫 and cannot不能 be prosecuted起訴. But what happened發生:
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然而, 奈及利亞國民
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people were so outraged憤怒 by this behavior行為 that it was possible可能
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對 Alamieyeseigha 的行為感到非常氣憤
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for his state legislature立法機關 to impeach him and get him out of office辦公室.
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州立法院因而得以直接將其彈劾
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Today今天, Alams大報警 -- as we call him for short -- is in jail監獄.
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現在, Alam 正在坐牢. 我們都簡稱他Alam
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This is a story故事 about the fact事實 that people in Africa非洲
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這個例子顯示, 非洲人民
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are no longer willing願意 to tolerate容忍 corruption腐敗 from their leaders領導者.
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不願再忍受領袖的貪腐
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This is a story故事 about the fact事實 that people want their resources資源
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這個例子也顯示, 人們希望資源都能
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managed管理 properly正確 for their good, and not taken採取 out to places地方
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妥善運用, 以人民福祉為出發點
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where they'll他們會 benefit效益 just a few少數 of the elite原種.
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而不是只讓少數菁英階級受惠
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And therefore因此, when you hear about the corrupt腐敗 Africa非洲 --
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因此, 當你們聽聞在非洲層出不窮的貪腐案例
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corruption腐敗 all the time -- I want you to know that the people
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有一點必須明瞭, 非洲某些國家
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and the governments政府 are trying hard to fight鬥爭 this
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的政府和人民都努力想改善這樣的情況
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in some of the countries國家, and that some successes成功 are emerging新興.
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而且也有些成功的例子
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Does it mean the problem問題 is over? The answer回答 is no.
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不過, 這樣就代表問題結束了嗎? 其實沒有
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There's still a long way to go, but that there's a will there.
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我們還有很長的一段路要走, 我們有願景
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And that successes成功 are being存在 chalked粉筆 up on this very important重要 fight鬥爭.
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這些成功都為我們的奮鬥寫下新的記錄
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So when you hear about corruption腐敗,
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下次, 當你聽到貪腐
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don't just feel that nothing is being存在 doneDONE about this --
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請不要認為我們無動於衷
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that you can't operate操作 in any African非洲人 country國家
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請不要認為情況過於嚴重,
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because of the overwhelming壓倒 corruption腐敗. That is not the case案件.
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你們幫不上忙, 因為事實並非如此
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There's a will to fight鬥爭, and in many許多 countries國家, that fight鬥爭 is ongoing不斷的
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我們願意為此努力. 在許多國家, 人們起來反抗
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and is being存在 won韓元. In others其他, like mine,
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而且打了一場漂亮的仗, 在某些國家,
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where there has been a long history歷史 of dictatorship專政 in Nigeria尼日利亞,
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例如我的國家奈及利亞, 因為長久以來的獨裁專政
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the fight鬥爭 is ongoing不斷的 and we have a long way to go.
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要成功非常不容易
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But the truth真相 of the matter is that this is going on.
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但我們仍舊沒有放棄
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The results結果 are showing展示:
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也有一些成果
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independent獨立 monitoring監控 by the World世界 Bank銀行 and other organizations組織
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例如, 世界銀行與其他組織成立獨立監督委員會
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show顯示 that in many許多 instances實例 the trend趨勢 is downwards向下
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在他們的監督之下,
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in terms條款 of corruption腐敗, and governance治理 is improving提高.
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政府持續進步
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A study研究 by the Economic經濟 Commission佣金 for Africa非洲 showed顯示
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非洲經濟委員會的一項研究指出
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a clear明確 trend趨勢 upwards向上 in governance治理 in 28 African非洲人 countries國家.
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有 28 個非洲國家政府正邁向清廉
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And let me say just one more thing
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在我們進入下個主題之前
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before I leave離開 this area of governance治理.
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容我補充一點
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That is that people talk about corruption腐敗, corruption腐敗.
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貪腐是當前重要的議題
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All the time when they talk about it
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人們不斷討論貪腐
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you immediately立即 think about Africa非洲.
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一提到貪腐, 大家就想到非洲
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That's the image圖片: African非洲人 countries國家. But let me say this:
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那是多數人的印象, 將貪腐與非洲國家連結
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if Alams大報警 was able能夠 to export出口 eight million百萬 dollars美元 into an account帳戶 in London倫敦 --
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但是, 如果 Alams 有辦法將 800 萬美元匯到倫敦,
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if the other people who had taken採取 money, estimated預計 at
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如果有人有辦法從發展中國家流出
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20 to 40 billion十億 now of developing發展 countries'國家“ monies款項
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200 億到 400 億至已開發國家
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sitting坐在 abroad國外 in the developed發達 countries國家 -- if they're able能夠 to do this,
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如果他們做得到這點
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what is that? Is that not corruption腐敗?
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那是怎麼回事? 難道已開發國家沒有貪腐嗎?
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In this country國家, if you receive接收 stolen被盜 goods產品, are you not prosecuted起訴?
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在你的國家, 如果你收到贓物, 你會不會被起訴呢?
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So when we talk about this kind of corruption腐敗, let us also think
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因此, 當我們談到貪腐, 同時也要思考
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about what is happening事件 on the other side of the globe地球 --
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地球上其他地方發生的事
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where the money's錢的 going and what can be doneDONE to stop it.
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錢為什麼會流向外國? 我們該怎麼阻止這些行動?
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I'm working加工 on an initiative倡議 now, along沿 with the World世界 Bank銀行,
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我現在和世界銀行共同執行一項新方案
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on asset財富 recovery復甦, trying to do what we can
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盡我們最大的努力追回原有的資產
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to get the monies款項 that have been taken採取 abroad國外 --
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將流向國外的錢,
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developing發展 countries'國家“ moneys款項 -- to get that sent發送 back.
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屬於開發中國家的錢討回來
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Because if we can get the 20 billion十億 dollars美元 sitting坐在 out there back,
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如果我們拿得回 200 億
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it may可能 be far more for some of these countries國家
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對某些國家來說,
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than all the aid援助 that is being存在 put together一起.
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這樣的金額遠比他們所獲得的援助總額來得多
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(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
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The second第二 thing I want to talk about is the will for reform改革.
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接下來我想談談改革的意願
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Africans非洲人, after -- they're tired, we're tired
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非洲長期以來都是慈善與關懷的主角
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of being存在 the subject學科 of everybody's每個人的 charity慈善機構 and care關心.
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但他們覺得累了, 我們覺得累了
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We are grateful感激, but we know that
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我們十分感謝, 但我們知道,
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we can take charge收費 of our own擁有 destinies命運 if we have the will to reform改革.
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若有心改革, 我們的命運掌握在自己手裡
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And what is happening事件 in many許多 African非洲人 countries國家 now is a realization實現
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很多非洲國家終於明白, 沒有人可以代替我們,
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that no one can do it but us. We have to do it.
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我們要靠自己的力量起而行動
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We can invite邀請 partners夥伴 who can support支持 us, but we have to start開始.
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我們可以邀集支持者參與, 但我們自己要先動起來
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We have to reform改革 our economies經濟, change更改 our leadership領導,
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我們的經濟要改變, 領導階級要改變,
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become成為 more democratic民主的, be more open打開 to change更改 and to information信息.
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我們要變得更民主, 樂於改變與接收新資訊
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And this is what we started開始 to do
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這正是我們現在在奈及利亞作的事
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in one of the largest最大 countries國家 on the continent大陸, Nigeria尼日利亞.
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奈及利亞是非洲大陸的大國之一
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In fact事實, if you're not in Nigeria尼日利亞, you're not in Africa非洲.
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事實上, 我要很認真地告訴你們,
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I want to tell you that.
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如果沒到過奈及利亞, 就等於沒到過非洲
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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One in four sub-Saharan撒哈拉以南 Africans非洲人 is Nigerian尼日利亞,
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奈及利亞是南撒哈拉非洲四國之一
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and it has 140 million百萬 dynamic動態 people -- chaotic混亂的 people --
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擁有 1 億 4000 萬人口, 人民組成非常複雜,
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but very interesting有趣 people. You'll你會 never be bored無聊.
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但我們的人民都十分有趣, 你永遠不會感到無聊
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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What we started開始 to do was to realize實現
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我們現在做的就是
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that we had to take charge收費 and reform改革 ourselves我們自己.
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自我管理並改革
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And with the support支持 of a leader領導
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我們的領導人
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who was willing願意, at the time, to do the reforms改革,
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支持改革, 也願意改革
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we put forward前鋒 a comprehensive全面 reform改革 program程序,
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我們自行設計並提出
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which哪一個 we developed發達 ourselves我們自己.
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一個全盤改革計畫
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Not the International國際 Monetary貨幣 Fund基金. Not the World世界 Bank銀行,
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這個改革計畫不同於國際貨幣基金,
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where I worked工作 for 21 years年份 and rose玫瑰 to be a vice president主席.
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不同於我待了二十一年, 擔任常務副行長的世界銀行
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No one can do it for you. You have to do it for yourself你自己.
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沒有人可以幫我們, 我們要自力自強
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We put together一起 a program程序 that would, one: get the state
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這個計畫的目標在於
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out of businesses企業 it had nothing -- it had no business商業 being存在 in.
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讓國家開始進行真正的商業活動
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The state should not be in the business商業
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國家不應該從事
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of producing生產 goods產品 and services服務
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生產貨物或服務等商業行為
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because it's inefficient低效 and incompetent無能.
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不僅沒有效率, 也不合適
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So we decided決定 to privatize私有化 many許多 of our enterprises企業.
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我們決定將多數國營企業民營化
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(Applause掌聲)
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We -- as a result結果, we decided決定 to liberalize放寬 many許多 of our markets市場.
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因此, 我們決定開放多數市場
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Can you believe that prior to this reform改革 --
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這個改革從 2003 年年底開始,
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which哪一個 started開始 at the end結束 of 2003, when I left Washington華盛頓
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在那之前, 我剛從華盛頓
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to go and take up the post崗位 of Finance金融 Minister部長 --
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返國擔任財政部長
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we had a telecommunications電信 company公司 that was only able能夠 to develop發展
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你們相信嗎? 我們的電信公司在 30 年裡
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4,500 landlines固定電話 in its entire整個 30-year-年 history歷史?
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竟然只牽了 4500 條電話線?
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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Having a telephone電話 in my country國家 was a huge巨大 luxury豪華.
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在我的國家, 擁有一台電話是非常奢侈的事
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You couldn't不能 get it. You had to bribe賄賂.
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一般人沒辦法擁有, 必須靠賄賂
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You had to do everything to get your phone電話.
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為了擁有電話, 什麼都得做
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When President主席 Obasanjo奧巴桑喬 supported支持的 and launched推出
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總統奧巴山約支持我們的方案
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the liberalization自由化 of the telecommunications電信 sector扇形,
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同意開放電信業民營
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we went from 4,500 landlines固定電話 to 32 million百萬 GSMGSM lines, and counting數數.
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我們從只有 4500 條電話線進步到有 3200 萬 GSM 線
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Nigeria's尼日利亞 telecoms電信 market市場 is the second-fastest第二快 growing生長 in the world世界,
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奈及利亞的電信市場成長率居全球第二
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after China中國. We are getting得到 investments投資 of about a billion十億 dollars美元 a year
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僅次於中國. 每年約有 10 億元資金投注在電信業
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in telecoms電信. And nobody沒有人 knows知道, except a few少數 smart聰明 people.
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除了少數幾個聰明人以外, 沒有人知道
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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The smartest最聰明的 one, first to come in,
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最早加入的聰明人是
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was the MTNMTN company公司 of South Africa非洲.
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南非的 MTN 集團
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And in the three years年份 that I was Finance金融 Minister部長,
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在我擔任財政部長的三年間
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they made製作 an average平均 of 360 million百萬 dollars美元 profit利潤 per year.
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他們每年的平均獲利為 3 億 6000 萬美元
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360 million百萬 in a market市場 -- in a country國家 that is a poor較差的 country國家,
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在一個國民平均所得低於 500 美元的貧窮國家,
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with an average平均 per capita人頭 income收入 just under 500 dollars美元 per capita人頭.
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擁有 3億 6000 萬美元的市場,
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So the market市場 is there.
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由此可見非洲的潛力
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When they kept不停 this under wraps包裝, but soon不久 others其他 got to know.
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MTN 集團沒有公開這個訊息, 但不久大家都知道了
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Nigerians尼日利亞人 themselves他們自己 began開始 to develop發展
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奈及利亞人民開始籌組公司,
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some wireless無線 telecommunications電信 companies公司,
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建立無線網路電信系統
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and three or four others其他 have come in.
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之後陸續有三, 四家公司加入
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But there's a huge巨大 market市場 out there,
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但市場還未完全飽和
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and people don't know about it, or they don't want to know.
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世人對此一無所知, 或者說他們毫無興趣
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So privatization私有化 is one of the things we've我們已經 doneDONE.
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民營化是我們目前已經上路的政策
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The other thing we've我們已經 also doneDONE is to manage管理 our finances財政 better.
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另一項政策是讓我們的財政制度更健全
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Because nobody's沒有人是 going to help you and support支持 you
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若我們自己不做,
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if you're not managing管理的 your own擁有 finances財政 well.
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沒有人可以幫我們完成
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And Nigeria尼日利亞, with the oil sector扇形, had the reputation聲譽
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奈及利亞的石油業很發達, 然而
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of being存在 corrupt腐敗 and not managing管理的 its own擁有 public上市 finances財政 well.
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其貪腐也是出了名, 政府欠缺良好的財政管理
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So what did we try to do? We introduced介紹 a fiscal rule規則
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我們怎麼改變這樣的狀況呢? 我們引進財政法規
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that de-linked脫鉤 our budget預算 from the oil price價錢.
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讓財政預算與石油價格脫勾
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Before we used to just budget預算 on whatever隨你 oil we bring帶來 in,
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以往, 我們以石油帶來的產值衡量預算
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because oil is the biggest最大, most revenue-earning賺取收入 sector扇形
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因為石油是我們最大宗, 收益最佳的產業
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in the economy經濟: 70 percent百分 of our revenues收入 come from oil.
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我們國家 70% 的收入都來自石油
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We de-linked脫鉤 that, and once一旦 we did it, we began開始 to budget預算
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我們讓預算與石油收入脫勾, 在那之後,
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at a price價錢 slightly lower降低 than the oil price價錢
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我們訂定的預算較石油收入來得少一些
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and save保存 whatever隨你 was above以上 that price價錢.
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因此可省下一筆錢
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We didn't know we could pull it off; it was very controversial爭論的.
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我們不知道是否能成功, 這項政策備受爭議
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But what it immediately立即 did was that the volatility揮發性
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但可以確定的是, 我們的經費波動逐漸減緩
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that had been present當下 in terms條款 of our economic經濟 development發展 --
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以往, 奈及利亞的經濟發展極度仰賴石油
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where, even if oil prices價格 were high, we would grow增長 very fast快速.
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石油價格上升時, 經濟成長快速
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When they crashed墜毀, we crashed墜毀.
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石油價格下跌, 我們的經濟也跟著衰退
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And we could hardly幾乎不 even pay工資 anything, any salaries工資, in the economy經濟.
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我們甚至無法支付任何費用, 也無法發給薪水
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That smoothened平滑 out. We were able能夠 to save保存, just before I left,
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新政策解決了這樣的窘境. 我們能夠節流
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27 billion十億 dollars美元. Whereas -- and this went to our reserves儲量 --
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在我卸任之前, 共省下 270 億, 這些錢存在國庫
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when I arrived到達 in 2003, we had seven billion十億 dollars美元 in reserves儲量.
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我於 2003 年就任前, 國庫只有 70 億
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By the time I left, we had gone走了 up to almost幾乎 30 billion十億 dollars美元. And
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在我卸任前, 我們共省下約 300 億美元
11:39
as we speak說話 now, we have about 40 billion十億 dollars美元 in reserves儲量
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現在, 財政管理制度得到改善,
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due應有 to proper正確 management管理 of our finances財政.
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國庫約有 400 億經費
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And that shores海岸 up our economy經濟, makes品牌 it stable穩定.
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這些錢支撐著我們的經濟, 使其得以穩定發展
11:51
Our exchange交換 rate that used to fluctuate波動 all the time
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我們的外匯率向來起伏不定
11:54
is now fairly相當 stable穩定 and being存在 managed管理 so that business商業 people
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但現在已趨穩定, 也在掌控之中
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have a predictability預測 of prices價格 in the economy經濟.
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方便商業人士做預測與評估
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We brought inflation通貨膨脹 down from 28 percent百分 to about 11 percent百分.
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我們讓通貨膨脹從 28% 降至 11%
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And we had GDPGDP grow增長 from an average平均 of 2.3 percent百分 the previous以前 decade
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原本我們的國內生產毛額較十年前上升約 2.3%
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to about 6.5 percent百分 now.
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現在已達到 6.5%
12:21
So all the changes變化 and reforms改革 we were able能夠 to make
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我們所做的轉變與改革
12:24
have shown顯示 up in results結果 that are measurable可測量 in the economy經濟.
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已可在經濟活動看到成果
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And what is more important重要, because we want to get away from oil
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更重要的是, 因為我們想擺脫對石油的依賴
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and diversify多樣化 -- and there are so many許多 opportunities機會
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擴大經濟活動範圍.
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in this one big country國家, as in many許多 countries國家 in Africa非洲 --
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如同許多非洲國家一樣, 奈及利亞有很多機會
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what was remarkable卓越 is that much of this growth發展 came來了
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值得注意的是, 我們的成長並不是單靠石油
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not from the oil sector扇形 alone單獨, but from non-oil非石油.
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而是石油以外的其他產業
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Agriculture農業 grew成長 at better than eight percent百分.
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我們的農業成長超過 8%
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As telecoms電信 sector扇形 grew成長, housing住房 and construction施工,
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電信業, 住宅業與建築業皆有所成長
12:51
and I could go on and on. And this is to illustrate說明 to you that
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這類例子不勝枚舉. 我舉這些例子是為了證明
12:56
once一旦 you get the macro-economy宏觀經濟 straightened拉直 out,
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只要總體經濟環境穩固
12:58
the opportunities機會 in various各個 other sectors行業 are enormous巨大.
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其他部門將擁有廣大的發展機會
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We have opportunities機會 in agriculture農業, like I said.
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如同我先前提到的, 我們的農業前景看好
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We have opportunities機會 in solid固體 minerals礦物質. We have a lot of minerals礦物質
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我們有豐富的固體礦物
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that no one has even invested投資 in or explored探討. And we realized實現
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還有很多礦物尚未開發, 此外我們也明白,
13:13
that without the proper正確 legislation立法 to make that possible可能,
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若沒有合宜的立法, 就不可能發展礦業
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that wouldn't不會 happen發生. So we've我們已經 now got a mining礦業 code
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所以我們訂定了採礦法規
13:19
that is comparable可比 with some of the best最好 in the world世界.
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這項法規與世界上其他礦業法規一樣完備
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We have opportunities機會 in housing住房 and real真實 estate房地產.
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我們的住宅與房地產業前景看好
13:25
There was nothing in a country國家 of 140 million百萬 people --
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我的國家有 1 億 4000 萬人,
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no shopping購物 malls商場 as you know them here.
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然而卻沒有大家所熟知的購物中心
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This was an investment投資 opportunity機會 for someone有人
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這對於某些人來說是投資的機會
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that excited興奮 the imagination想像力 of people.
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他們正摩拳擦掌, 準備一展鴻圖
13:41
And now, we have a situation情況 in which哪一個 the businesses企業 in this mall購物中心
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現在, 進駐購物中心的企業
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are doing four times the turnover周轉 that they had projected預計.
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總營業額是他們預期中的四倍
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So, huge巨大 things in construction施工, real真實 estate房地產,
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現在, 房地產, 抵押市場等都活絡起來,
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mortgage抵押 markets市場. Financial金融 services服務:
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我們的財政服務如下:
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we had 89 banks銀行. Too many許多 not doing their real真實 business商業.
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我們原有 89 間銀行, 但大多不是辦理銀行業務
13:58
We consolidated綜合 them from 89 to 25 banks銀行 by requiring要求
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我們將其整併為 25 間
14:02
that they increase增加 their capital首都 -- share分享 capital首都.
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要求他們增加資本, 也就是股本
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And it went from about 25 million百萬 dollars美元 to 150 million百萬 dollars美元.
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股本由原本的 2500 萬增加為 1 億 5000 萬美元
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The banks銀行 -- these banks銀行 are now consolidated綜合, and that strengthening強化
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這些銀行經過整合後,
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of the banking銀行業 system系統 has attracted吸引 a lot of investment投資 from outside.
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體系漸漸穩固, 吸引更多外資
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Barclays巴克萊 Bank銀行 of the U.K. is bringing使 in 500 million百萬.
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英國的巴克萊銀行投入 5 億元,
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Standard標準 Chartered特許 has brought in 140 million百萬.
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渣打銀行投入 1 億 4000 萬元
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And I can go on. Dollars美元, on and on, into the system系統.
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我還可以舉出很多例子, 資金就這樣一波波湧入
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We are doing the same相同 with the insurance保險 sector扇形.
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保險業也是一樣
14:33
So in financial金融 services服務, a great deal合同 of opportunity機會.
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因此在金融服務方面, 我們有很多機會
14:36
In tourism旅遊, in many許多 African非洲人 countries國家, a great opportunity機會.
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對很多非洲國家來說, 旅遊業也是個前景在望的產業
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And that's what many許多 people know East Africa非洲 for:
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如同世人所熟知, 很多東非國家致力於發展旅遊業
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the wildlife野生動物, the elephants大象, and so on.
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他們有野生動物, 大象等
14:49
But managing管理的 the tourism旅遊 market市場 in a way
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不過, 最重要的還是
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that can really benefit效益 the people is very important重要.
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選擇有利旅遊業發展的管理方式
14:55
So what am I trying to say? I'm trying to tell you
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為什麼我會這樣說呢? 我想告訴大家
14:58
that there's a new wave on the continent大陸.
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在非洲大陸的一個新興風潮
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A new wave of openness透明度 and democratization民主化 in which哪一個, since以來 2000,
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從 2000 年開始, 超過三分之二的非洲國家
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more than two-thirds三分之二 of African非洲人 countries國家 have had
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走向開放與民主
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multi-party多方 democratic民主的 elections選舉.
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舉行多黨民主選舉
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Not all of them have been perfect完善, or will be,
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雖然目前並不完善, 也可能無法達到完善,
15:14
but the trend趨勢 is very clear明確.
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但這股風潮不會停滯
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I'm trying to tell you that since以來 the past過去 three years年份,
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過去三年來,
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the average平均 rate of growth發展 on the continent大陸 has moved移動
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非洲大陸的年均增長率從
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from about 2.5 percent百分 to about five percent百分 per annum每年.
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2.5% 進步到 5%
15:27
This is better than the performance性能 of many許多 OECD經合組織 countries國家.
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遠比許多 OECD 成員國來得高
15:32
So it's clear明確 that things are changing改變.
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很明顯地, 非洲的局勢正在改變
15:36
Conflicts衝突 are down on the continent大陸;
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非洲大陸的衝突減少了
15:39
from about 12 conflicts衝突 a decade ago,
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十年前, 約有十二起衝突
15:41
we are down to three or four conflicts衝突 --
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現在已減為三至四起零星衝突
15:43
one of the most terrible可怕, of course課程, of which哪一個 is Darfur達爾富爾.
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其中最嚴重的, 無非就是蘇丹的達佛地區
15:46
And, you know, you have the neighborhood鄰里 effect影響 where
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此外還有鄰近效應,
15:49
if something is going on in one part部分 of the continent大陸,
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當非洲的某一區起了衝突
15:51
it looks容貌 like the entire整個 continent大陸 is affected受影響.
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整個大陸都會受到影響
15:54
But you should know that this continent大陸 is not --
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不過我們必須瞭解
15:57
is a continent大陸 of many許多 countries國家, not one country國家.
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非洲並非只有一個國家, 而是有許多國家組成
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And if we are down to three or four conflicts衝突,
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如果我們將衝突縮減至只剩三, 四起
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it means手段 that there are plenty豐富 of opportunities機會 to invest投資
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就表示有機會可以創造
16:08
in stable穩定, growing生長, exciting扣人心弦 economies經濟
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穩定, 不斷成長, 激勵人心的經濟
16:15
where there's plenty豐富 of opportunity機會.
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我們有充足的機會
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And I want to just make one point about this investment投資.
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談到投資, 我只提一點
16:24
The best最好 way to help Africans非洲人 today今天
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要幫助非洲, 當前最好的辦法就是
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is to help them to stand on their own擁有 feet.
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幫助我們用自己的力量站起來
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And the best最好 way to do that is by helping幫助 create創建 jobs工作.
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從何幫起? 請協助我們創造工作機會
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There's no issue問題 with fighting戰鬥 malaria瘧疾 and putting money in that
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我所指的並不是挹注金錢對抗瘧疾
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and saving保存 children's兒童 lives生活. That's not what I'm saying. That is fine.
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並不是挽救孩童的生命. 這些都很好, 但不是我的重點
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But imagine想像 the impact碰撞 on a family家庭: if the parents父母 can be employed就業
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請想像一下, 如果一個家庭的父母親都有工作
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and make sure that their children孩子 go to school學校,
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他們的孩子可以上學
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that they can buy購買 the drugs毒品 to fight鬥爭 the disease疾病 themselves他們自己.
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他們有能力去看病, 買藥, 那不是很好嗎?
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If we can invest投資 in places地方 where you yourselves你自己 make money
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如果我們可以資助某些地區
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whilst同時 creating創建 jobs工作 and helping幫助 people stand on their own擁有 feet,
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幫助人們找到工作, 讓他們能自力更生,
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isn't that a wonderful精彩 opportunity機會? Isn't that the way to go?
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而投資人又可以賺錢, 那不是很好的機會嗎? 我們還在等什麼呢?
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And I want to say that some of the best最好 people to invest投資 in
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我必須告訴大家,
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on the continent大陸 are the women婦女.
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目前大力資助非洲大陸的人, 以女性居多
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(Applause掌聲)
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I have a CD光盤 here. I'm sorry that I didn't say anything on time.
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我這裡有一片光碟. 很抱歉, 我們可能沒有時間播放
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Otherwise除此以外, I would have liked喜歡 you to have seen看到 this.
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我原本想讓大家看
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It says, "Africa非洲: Open打開 for Business商業."
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光碟名稱是: "非洲: 商業新據點"
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And this is a video視頻 that has actually其實 won韓元 an award
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內容是一部影片,
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as the best最好 documentary記錄 of the year.
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這部影片曾獲得年度最佳紀錄片獎,
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Understand理解 that the woman女人 who made製作 it
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製做這部影片的女性
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is going to be in Tanzania坦桑尼亞, where they're having the session會議 in June六月.
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在六月將會到坦尚尼亞, 在那裡展開新的拍攝工作
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But it shows節目 you Africans非洲人, and particularly尤其 African非洲人 women婦女, who
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這部影片呈現了非洲人, 尤其是非洲女性
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against反對 all odds可能性 have developed發達 businesses企業, some of them world-class世界級.
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如何克服一切困難發展商業, 其中包括國際貿易
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One of the women婦女 in this video視頻, AdenikeAdenike OgunlesiOgunlesi,
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影片中一位女性叫 Adenike Ogunlesi,
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making製造 children's兒童 clothes衣服 --
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她是童裝製造商,
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which哪一個 she started開始 as a hobby愛好 and grew成長 into a business商業.
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原本只是將縫製童裝當作嗜好, 後來自行創業
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Mixing混合 African非洲人 materials物料, such這樣 as we have,
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融合非洲當地的素材
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with materials物料 from elsewhere別處.
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與其他地方的素材
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So, she'll貝殼 make a little pair of dungarees工作服 with corduroys燈芯絨,
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例如, 將燈心絨褲子改造為工作褲
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with African非洲人 material材料 mixed in. Very creative創作的 designs設計,
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加入非洲的素材. 她的設計非常有創意
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has reached到達 a stage階段 where she even had an order訂購 from Wal-Mart沃爾瑪.
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生意十分成功, 甚至連美國的 Wal-Mart 公司都向她訂貨
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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For 10,000 pieces.
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訂了 10000 件
18:29
So that shows節目 you that we have people who are capable of doing.
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這個例子顯示我們的人民是有能力辦得到的
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And the women婦女 are diligent勤奮. They are focused重點; they work hard.
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非洲的婦女非常勤奮, 她們專心致志, 她們認真工作
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I could go on giving examples例子:
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我還可以舉出其他例子:
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Beatrice比阿特麗斯 GakubaGakuba of Rwanda盧旺達, who opened打開 up a flower business商業
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盧安達的 Beatrice Gakuba 從事花業,
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and is now exporting出口 to the Dutch荷蘭人 auction拍賣 in Amsterdam阿姆斯特丹 each morning早上
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每天早上, 她的花都會送至荷蘭阿姆斯特丹拍賣
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and is employing採用 200 other women婦女 and men男人 to work with her.
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除此之外, 她的公司還僱用了 200 位女性與男性
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However然而, many許多 of these are starved飢餓 for capital首都 to expand擴大,
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然而, 許多公司面臨資本不足的困境
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because nobody沒有人 believes相信 outside of our countries國家
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因為非洲以外的其他國家不相信
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that we can do what is necessary必要. Nobody沒有人 thinks in terms條款 of a market市場.
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我們辦得到. 沒有人認為非洲有市場
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Nobody沒有人 thinks there's opportunity機會.
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沒有人認為非洲有機會
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But I'm standing常設 here saying that those who miss小姐 the boat now,
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但我現在站在這裡, 我要告訴大家, 沒有抓緊機會的人,
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will miss小姐 it forever永遠.
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將永久失去機會
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So if you want to be in Africa非洲, think about investing投資.
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所以如果你們想幫助非洲, 可以考慮投資
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Think about the BeatricesBeatrices, think about the AdenikesAdenikes of this world世界,
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想想 Beatrice 的例子, 想想 Adenikes 的例子
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who are doing incredible難以置信 things, that are bringing使 them
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她們都在為全球經濟帶來不可思議的力量
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into the global全球 economy經濟, whilst同時 at the same相同 time making製造 sure
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同時也讓她們
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that their fellow同伴 men男人 and women婦女 are employed就業,
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的同胞獲得工作機會
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and that the children孩子 in those households get educated博學
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這些家庭的孩子因而得以接受教育
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because their parents父母 are earning盈利 adequate充足 income收入.
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因為他們的父母有足夠的經濟來源
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So I invite邀請 you to explore探索 the opportunities機會.
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所以, 我想邀請大家一起探索更多機會
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When you go to Tanzania坦桑尼亞, listen carefully小心,
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當你到坦尚尼亞, 請注意,
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because I'm sure you will hear of the various各個 openings開口 that there will be
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我確信你一定會發現那裡充滿許多機會
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for you to get involved參與 in something that will do good
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若你參與其中, 不僅可為你自己帶來助益,
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for the continent大陸, for the people and for yourselves你自己.
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非洲人民與整個非洲大陸也可因而受惠
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Thank you very much.
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謝謝大家
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(Applause掌聲)
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Translated by Hsi-Hua Lin
Reviewed by Shelley Krishna R. TSANG

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Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala - Economist
Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala is a respected global economist.

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Okonjo-Iweala was the Finance Minister of Nigeria, Africa’s largest economy, from 2003 to 2006, and then briefly the country’s Foreign Affairs Minister, the first woman to hold either position. From 2011 to 2015 she was again named Minister of Finance and Coordinating Minister for the Economy of Nigeria. Between those terms, from 2007 to 2011, she was one of the managing director of the World Bank and a candidate to the organization’s presidency. She is now a senior advisor at financial advisory and asset management firm Lazard, and she chairs the Board of the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization. At the World Bank, she worked for change in Africa and assistance for low-income countries. As Finance Minister, she attacked corruption to make Nigeria more transparent and desirable for investment and jobs, an activism that attracted criticism from circles opposed to reform.

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