Jeremy Forbes: How to start a conversation about suicide
جرمی فوربز: چگونه درباره خودکشی حرف بزنیم
Through his charity HALT, Jeremy Forbes aims to break through the stigma attached to mental health, raise awareness through education and empower men to open up conversations around mental health and suicide prevention. Full bio
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country town in central Victoria.
for his workmanship with steel.
مهارتش در کار با فولاد معروف بود.
some steel edging for the garden.
درستکردن حصارهای باغ بگیرم.
which is a wonderful gift,
مثل یک هدیهٔ فوقالعاده است،
down the end of Pete's street
که پایین خیابان پیت بود
was a tradie, or a tradesman.
یا یک بازاری بود.
in the Australian vernacular.
همهچیز را در کلام خلاصه کنیم
از تو توقعاتی دارند.
در ماه جولای بود. زمستان بود.
and the community members,
آدمها قدم میزدم،
of another underlying tragic level.
سطح دردناک و پنهان دیگری بود.
in that community hall
other people were going through.
که دیگران با آن درگیرند.
was contained in two words
یک جمله خلاصه میشد
where I was standing in a community hall
اجتماعات ایستاده بودم
this Castlemaine community
I'd played footy there,
آنجا فوتبال استرالیایی بازی کردم،
for what they'd given me.
سپاسگزار بودم.
that hall as well,
drugs, finance, gambling,
دست و پنجه نرم میکنند.
that we have in the tradie community,
ما بازاریها وجود دارد،
I lacked the experience.
but I wanted to do something.
اما میخواستم کاری انجام دهم.
در آغوش کشیدم و گفتم:
to them or what to tell them.
یا چه حرفی به آنها بزنم.
from Catherine Pilgrim, my cofounder,
همکار مؤسسهام به من زنگ زد،
for the tradie community.
کاری انجام بدهیم.
for the tradie community.
of being a tradie.
we can get the tradies together
بتوانیم کسبه را دور هم جمع کنیم، کجاست؟
and talk about mental health
بهداشت روان صحبت کنند
I thought it was very clever.
ایده هوشمندانهای بود.
of a hardware store.
یک مغازهٔ یراق و ابزار.
and I'm a tradie myself,
ما بازاریها بهطور ویژه
the tradies with egg and bacon rolls,
تخممرغ و گوشت پذیرایی کنیم،
had no money to begin,
در آغاز هیچ پولی نداشت،
It starts in community.
و از جامعه شروع میشود.
we went around to the baker,
به نانوا سر زدیم،
and there was some chocolate,
و یک مغازه شکلات فروشی،
this awareness-raising event.
آگاهیبخش برگزار میکنیم،
Because we haven't got any money."
آخر هیچ پولی نداریم.»
we initiated the conversation with
میخواستیم با او صحبت کنیم
depression or thoughts of suicide
افسرده یا به فکر خودکشی است
we've got some food.
کمی غذا تهیه کردهایم.
and a lot of men in general,
و به طور کلی مردم.
where to go and get help.
کنیم و کمک بگیریم.
at the HALT events,
about my mental health
به پزشک مراجعه کنم
(Lifeline) نداشتم،
potentially saved my life.
say to me in the first year,
در سال اول به من گفتند،
still have those bags in their Ute
هم آن بستهها را در ماشین
about a whole of community approach,
رویکرد جامعه حرف میزنم،
in Castlemaine at Tonks Brothers,
در تونکس برادرز بود،
gone through mental health.
روان را طی کردهاند.
بیشتری برگزار کردیم
it's not only tradies
or anxiety or depression or suicide.
یا افسردگی یا خودکشی نیستند.
in the farming industry,
بازاریها ترتیب دادیم،
would not go home to their partners
we talked about mental health,
راجع به بهداشت روانی حرف زدیم،
this, this and this now."
این را انجام بدهیم.»
to these young, vulnerable men and women.
مردان جوان و آسیبپذیر ارتباط برقرار کنم.
is really high for older men.
افراد مسنتر بالاتر است.
depot workers and tradies.
و بازاریها برنامهریزی کردیم.
with very little funding,
با بودجه بسیار اندکی برگزار شده،
HALT event at a hardware store,
که در مغازه ابزارفروشی برگزار میشود،
about his suicide attempt.
اقدام به خودکشی با من حرف میزند.
they've worked through it,
با آن دستوپنجه نرم کردهاند،
they could share their vulnerabilities.
میتوانند درباره آسیبپذیریشان حرف بزنند،
talk about their suicide attempt,
اقدام به خودکشی صحبت کنند.
for them to talk,
to start talking.
to me and tell me their story,
و داستانشان را تعریف کنند،
to talk with other men."
بهقدر کافی احساس راحتی میکنیم.»
that I've had depression, but I have,
که افسردگی دارم، اما دارم،
wants to come and speak to me,
که میخواهد با من حرف بزند،
and cathartic to do that.
from local and national support services.
بستههای اطلاعرسانی میدهیم.
or someone at one of these events,
شرکتکننده دیگری میگوییم:
of suicide prevention.
which most of our brekkies are,
کنیم که بیشترین میزان خودکشی همان وقت است
It's a whole-of-community approach.
این وظیفه تمام جامعه است.
sporting clubs, community clubs.
just to give you an idea.
تا بهتر متوجه شوید.
in opening up the conversations.
دربارهاش حرف بزنیم.
to open up conversations.
سخت است که حرف بزنند.
conversations, I tell the guys,
میخواهید سر صحبت را باز کنید،
to open up and have a conversation,
که احساس آرامش میکنید،
it's going for a walk,
یا زمان پیادهروی،
to have the conversation.
برای حرف زدن پیدا کنید.
to have that conversation
out there is a good listener.
to listen and not judge.
یک هنر است.
to talk to you about mental illness
آمد تا راجع به بیماری روحی
and thoughts of suicide,
و فکر خودکشی حرف بزند،
that we're going to hold that in tight
که آن را پیش خودمان نگه میداریم
We need to listen.
باید گوش بدهیم.
associated with mental health.
بیماری روحی را کمرنگ کنیم.
to have mental health days.
شرایط روحی هم مرخصی میدهند.
it's mental health days.
نیست، برای بهداشت روانی هم هست.
We can add to that change.
ما هم میتوانیم تغییر کنیم.
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Jeremy Forbes - Life preserverThrough his charity HALT, Jeremy Forbes aims to break through the stigma attached to mental health, raise awareness through education and empower men to open up conversations around mental health and suicide prevention.
Why you should listen
Jeremy Forbes is the co-founder of HALT (Hope Assistance Local Tradies), which aims to build the bridge between the tradespeople or "tradie" community and both local and national support services. HALT facilitates this through "Save Your Bacon" meetings in hardware stores, where tradies feel socially included and comfortable.
Forbes and his co-founder Catherine Pilgrim founded HALT in 2013 after the suicide of a local tradesman in the Castlemaine, Australia area. HALT has now held over 200 events across Australia, reaching over 10,000 tradies, apprentices and community members. HALT has now expanded and is reaching out to sporting clubs, farming communities, building and construction apprentices, miners, corporate organizations and private businesses with a powerful message of suicide prevention.
Forbes travels across Australia and the world to tell his story and encourage and empower men to open up and have the tough conversations, as well as giving them the awareness of where to go to access help or help a mate if they need help. He was awarded a Westpac Social Change Fellowship through the Westpac Bicentennial foundation in 2016 and traveled to London and Oxford to talk about HALT and discover what the Uk were doing in the suicide prevention field. HALT was awarded a state award by Worksafe Victoria for its innovative approach to mental health and suicide prevention.
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