ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Jack Conte - Musician, entrepreneur
With his membership platform Patreon, YouTube star Jack Conte may have solved a perennial problem of content creators -- getting paid for digital media.

Why you should listen

As a solo artist and member of folk-rock duo Pomplamoose, Jack Conte garnered millions of views for his offbeat "video songs," including his breakout hit "Yeah Yeah Yeah" and "Pedals," a robotic tour-de-force with a set that duplicates the cockpit of the Millennium Falcon.

Despite his success, Conte noted the disconnect between page views and revenue, and he realized that if you’re a widely viewed artist and you aren’t making money, "that's not your fault -- it’s technology's fault." His solution is Patreon: a membership platform built on recurring payments from patrons to support creatives with ongoing projects.

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Jack Conte: How artists can (finally) get paid in the digital age

杰克·康特: 艺术家怎样在数字时代赚钱

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对于艺术家和创作者来说有一个奇怪的百年,身为音乐家和企业家的杰克·康特说道。过去将艺术转化为钱的传统方法(比如唱片收入)已经被互联网所颠覆,让音乐家,作家和艺术家思考如何生存。康特的Patreon已经打造了一个为艺术家在网上通过粉丝赚钱的平台。像这样的支付平台会改变在数字时代成为一个艺术家的意义吗?
- Musician, entrepreneur
With his membership platform Patreon, YouTube star Jack Conte may have solved a perennial problem of content creators -- getting paid for digital media. Full bio

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Hi你好 everyone大家.
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大家好
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So, I'm going to take us back to 2007.
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现在我要带大家回到2007年
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I'd just spent花费 about six months个月
working加工 on album专辑
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我刚刚花费六个月的
时间在一张专辑上
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that I'd poured my heart and my soul灵魂 into,
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一张让我倾尽心力的专辑
这张专辑在聚友网(Myspace)上
每天大概会被播放三次
00:22
and it was getting得到 about three plays播放
per day on Myspace我的空间 at the time,
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当我看到其他用吉他自弹自唱的人
将他们的视频放到
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and I was getting得到 more and more depressed郁闷
when I started开始 noticing注意到 these other people
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一个叫YouTube的新兴网站上
00:29
who were playing播放 guitar吉他 and singing唱歌
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并且得到了30万的浏览量
00:31
and putting videos视频
on this new site现场 called YouTubeYouTube的,
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我开始变得越来越沮丧
00:33
and they were getting得到 300,000 views意见.
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所以我决定也开始
做一些YouTube视频
00:35
So I decided决定 I'm going to start开始
making制造 some Youtube的Youtube videos视频.
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00:38
And one day they featured精选
a video视频 of my band on the homepage主页,
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有一天 YouTube在它们的主页上
放了一个我们乐队的视频
00:41
which哪一个 was amazing惊人 --
we got a bunch of new fans球迷.
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那个视频非常精彩
我们因此得到了一大票新粉丝
00:44
We also got a bunch of people
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还有和一大帮人
00:45
who, I guess猜测, just didn't really like
the music音乐 or something --
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我猜他们并不喜欢我们的音乐之类的
(笑声)
00:48
(Laughter笑声)
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不过没关系 因为人们
开始来看我们的表演了
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It's OK because people
started开始 coming未来 to our shows节目,
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00:52
and we started开始 touring旅游,
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我们也开始进行巡演
00:53
and we came来了 out with a record记录.
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我们创造了一个记录
00:54
And when I checked检查
our bank银行 account帐户 balance平衡
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当我查看银行账户余额的时候
iTunes第一个月收入结算显示
00:56
after our first monthly每月一次 iTunesiTunes的 payout支付,
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我们有了2万2千美元的进账
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we had 22,000 bucks雄鹿 in it,
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太不可思议了 因为那会儿
我还住在我爸的房子里呢
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which哪一个 was amazing惊人 because at the time
I was living活的 at my dad's爸爸的 house,
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上传视频到网上去
试图以艺术家的身份谋生
01:03
trying to make a living活的 as a musician音乐家
by uploading上传 videos视频 to the internet互联网
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在2009年的时候没多少人买账
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which哪一个 literally按照字面 zero people
respected尊敬 in 2009 --
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01:09
even the people who were
uploading上传 videos视频 to the internet互联网.
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甚至自己上传视频
到网上的人对此也并不乐观
01:12
And so for the next下一个 four years年份,
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接下来的四年
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I uploaded上传 more and more
videos视频 to the Internet互联网,
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我上传了越来越多的视频到互联网上
01:17
and they got better and better,
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这些视频也越来越好
01:19
and we made制作 enough足够 money
through通过 brand deals交易
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通过品牌交易广告和iTunes的销量
01:22
and commercials广告 and iTunesiTunes的 sales销售
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我们赚了足够的钱
01:25
to buy购买 a house.
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买下了一所房子
我们还建了一个录音室
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And we built内置 a recording记录 studio工作室.
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01:29
But there was one big problem问题:
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但还有一个大问题
作为一个创作人去赚大钱
在2013年是非常古怪的
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making制造 money as a creative创作的 person
in 2013 was super weird奇怪的.
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01:36
First of all, the business商业 models楷模
were changing改变 all the time.
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首先 商业模式在一直变化
所以我们每年5万8千美元的
iTunes下载收入
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So our 58,000 dollars美元
of annual全年 iTunesiTunes的 download下载 income收入
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01:43
was about to be replaced更换 by about
6,000 dollars美元 of streaming income收入.
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将会被6千美元的在线播放收入所取代
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Steams蒸汽 paid支付 less than downloads下载.
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在线播放比下载付钱更少
01:48
And then as more and more creators创作者
started开始 popping up online线上,
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随着越来越多的创作者在网上涌现
五位数的品牌交易
有了越来越多的竞争
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there was just more competition竞争
for these five-figure五图 brand deals交易
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而这正是我们乐队
一直赖以生存的基础
01:55
that had kept不停 the band afloat浮着 for years年份.
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01:57
And to top最佳 it all off,
our videos视频 themselves他们自己 --
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而最重要的是 我们的视频本身
01:59
the creative创作的 stuff东东 that we made制作
that our fans球迷 loved喜爱 and appreciated赞赏 --
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我们创作的被粉丝所喜爱欣赏的
有创作力的作品
也是我们为这个世界带来的贡献
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that were actually其实
contributing贡献 value to the world世界,
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那些视频却几乎没有
为我们带来任何收入
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those videos视频 were generating发电
almost几乎 zero dollars美元 of income收入 for us.
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这是我YouTube面板的真实截图
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This is an actual实际 snapshot快照
of my YouTubeYouTube的 dashboard仪表板
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在28天中
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from a 28-day-天 period
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100万的观看量
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that shows节目 one million百万 views意见
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02:14
and 166 dollars美元 of ad广告 earnings收益
for those views意见.
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以及从这些观看中获得的
166美元广告收入
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The whole整个 machine in 2013
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在2013年 这一整个机制
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that took art艺术 online线上 and outputted输出 money
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将艺术放到网上来赚钱
完全没有用
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was totally完全 nonfunctional非功能性.
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02:27
It doesn't matter if you're a newspaper报纸,
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无论你是经营报纸
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or an institution机构,
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或者一个机构
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or an independent独立 creator创造者.
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还是一个独立的创作者
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A monthly每月一次 web卷筒纸 comic滑稽
with 20,000 monthly每月一次 readers读者 --
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一个有两万名读者的
每月更新的网络漫画
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20,000 monthly每月一次 readers读者 --
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两万个读者
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gets得到 paid支付 a couple一对 hundred
bucks雄鹿 in ad广告 revenue收入.
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只会得到几百美元的广告收入
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This is 20,000 people.
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这是两万人的访问量啊
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Like, in what world世界 is this not enough足够?
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在什么样的世界里
这个数字还不够(赚大钱)
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I don't understand理解.
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我完全不理解
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What systems系统 have we built内置
where this is insufficient不足
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我们创造了个什么样的体系
让这还不足以
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for a person to make a living活的?
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独立支撑一个人的生存
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So, I actually其实 have a theory理论 about this.
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事实上我对这一点有一套理论
我认为这100年来都很怪异
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I think it's been a weird奇怪的 100 years年份.
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02:58
(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
02:59
(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
03:02
About 100 years年份 ago,
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大约一百年前
人类研究出了怎样在蜡桶上记录声音
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humans人类 figured想通 out how to record记录
sound声音 onto a wax cylinder圆筒.
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03:07
That was the beginning开始 of the phonograph留声机.
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这是留声机的起源
大约在同一时间
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Right around the same相同 time,
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我们发现了怎样将光记录
在一张相纸上
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we figured想通 out how to record记录
light onto a piece of photographic摄影 paper,
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赛璐珞(电影胶片)
标志着电影和电视时代的开始
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celluloid赛璐珞 -- the beginning开始
of film电影 and television电视.
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我们第一次可以将艺术
储存在一个事物上
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For the first time,
you could store商店 art艺术 on a thing,
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which哪一个 was amazing惊人.
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这是非常不可思议的
艺术过去常常是转瞬即逝的
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Art艺术 used to be completely全然 ephemeral短暂的,
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如果你错过了交响乐音乐会
你就听不到乐团的演出了
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so if you missed错过 the symphony交响乐,
you just didn't get to hear the orchestra乐队.
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而现在 前所未有的
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But now, for the first time,
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你可以将乐队的演出储存在
一个实物上了
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you could store商店 the orchestra's乐团的
performance性能 on a physical物理 object目的,
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并且可以以后再听
03:31
and like, listen to it later后来,
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03:33
which哪一个 was amazing惊人.
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非常不可思议
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It was so amazing惊人 in fact事实,
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事实上简直太不可思议了
所以接下来的100年
从1900到2000年
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that for the next下一个 100 years年份,
between之间 1900 and 2000,
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人们在基础设施建设上
花了数以亿计的钱
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humans人类 built内置 just billions数十亿 and billions数十亿
of dollars美元 of infrastructure基础设施
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基本上是在帮助艺术家做两件事
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to essentially实质上 help artists艺术家 do two things.
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First, put their art艺术 on a thing,
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第一件 将艺术放在一件物体上
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and second第二, get that thing
around the world世界
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第二件 让这件物体传遍全世界
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to the people who wanted the art艺术.
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去给那些想要艺术的人
03:52
So, so much industry行业
is devoted忠诚 to these two problems问题.
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太多太多的产业
都专注于这两件事了
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Oh my gosh天哪, there are trucking卡车 companies公司,
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我的天 还包括货物运输公司
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and brick-and-mortar砖和灰浆 and marketing营销 firms公司,
and CD光盘 jewel case案件 manufacturers制造商,
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实体和营销公司 还有CD盒制造公司
全都致力于这两件事
04:02
all devoted忠诚 to these two problems问题.
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And then we all know what happened发生.
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接下来我们都知道发生了什么
04:07
10 years年份 ago, the internet互联网 matures成熟
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10年前 因特网变得成熟
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and we get SpotifySpotify的
and FacebookFacebook的 and YouTubeYouTube的
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我们有了Spotify Facebook YouTube
04:10
and iTunesiTunes的 and Google谷歌 search搜索,
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iTunes和谷歌搜索
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and a hundred years年份 of infrastructure基础设施
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百年的基础设施
04:15
and supply供应 chains and distribution分配 systems系统
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供应链和分配系统
04:18
and monetization货币化 schemes方案
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货币化方案
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are completely全然 bypassed绕过 --
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在十年中
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in a decade.
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在设计出这些事物的100年后
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After 100 years年份 of designing设计 these things,
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就这样被完全地被绕过了
04:27
it's no wonder奇迹 that it's just totally完全
broken破碎 for creative创作的 people right now.
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难怪对创作者来说它完全失效了
难怪产业链中的货币化部分
在这种新的背景下
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It's no wonder奇迹 that the monetization货币化
part部分 of the chain doesn't work
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失去了作用
04:34
given特定 this new context上下文.
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04:37
But what gets得到 me super excited兴奋
to be a creator创造者 right now,
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而作为一名当今的创作者
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to be alive today今天 and be
a creative创作的 person right now,
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现在使我感到非常兴奋的是
04:45
is realizing实现 that we're only 10 years年份
into figuring盘算 out this new machine --
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是意识到我们才刚刚花费了十年
去探寻这个新的机制
04:51
to figuring盘算 out the next下一个 100 years年份
of infrastructure基础设施 for our creators创作者.
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为我们的创作者
搭建未来100年的基础设施
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And you can tell we're only 10 years年份 in.
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你可以看出我们才仅仅开始十年
有很多的尝试和错误
也有一些非常好的观点逐渐形成
04:57
There's a lot of trial审讯 and error错误,
some really good ideas思路 forming成型,
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进行了许多实验
05:00
a lot of experimentation实验.
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我们正在搞清什么有用
什么没有用
05:01
We're figuring盘算 out
what works作品 and what doesn't.
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就像Twitch流平台 谁听过Twitch
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Like Twitch抽搐 streamers飘带.
Who's谁是 heard听说 of Twitch抽搐?
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Twitch用户每个月能得到
3千到5千美元
05:06
Twitch抽搐 streamers飘带 are making制造
three to five thousand bucks雄鹿 a month
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通过上传游戏视频
05:09
streaming gaming赌博 content内容.
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厉害的人每年能赚超过10万美元
05:10
The big ones那些 are making制造
over 100,000 dollars美元 a year.
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05:15
There's a site现场 called YouNow知道,
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有一个网站叫YouNow
05:17
it's an app应用.
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它是一个应用程序
05:18
It allows允许 musicians音乐家 and vloggers影音部落客
to get paid支付 in digital数字 goods产品 from fans球迷.
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它让音乐家和视频博主
通过虚拟道具从粉丝那里赚钱
05:23
So, I'm also working加工 on the problem问题.
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所以我也在研究这个问题
四年前我和我的一个朋友
05:24
Four years年份 ago I started开始
a company公司 called PatreonPatreon
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开了一家叫Patreon的公司
05:27
with a friend朋友 of mine.
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我们现在有80个人在研究这个问题
05:28
We're 80 people now
working加工 on this problem问题.
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It's basically基本上 a membership platform平台
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它本质上是一个会员平台
05:33
that makes品牌 it really easy简单
for creators创作者 to get paid支付 --
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一个让创作者非常容易
得到报酬的平台
他们每月从粉丝那里赚钱来维持生活
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every一切 month from their fans球迷
to earn a living活的.
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05:39
For a creator创造者, it's like having a salary薪水
for being存在 a creative创作的 person.
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对于创作者来说就像
拿着薪水去成为一个有创造力的人
05:43
And this is one of our creators创作者.
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这是我们的创作者之一
05:45
They're called "Kinda有点儿 Funny滑稽."
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他们叫做 有点搞笑
05:46
They have about 220,000
subscribers用户 on YouTubeYouTube的.
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他们在YouTube上
有大约22万的订阅者
05:49
And when they upload上载 a video视频,
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当他们上传一个视频时
大约会得到1万5到10万的浏览量
05:51
it gets得到 somewhere某处 around
15,000 views意见 to 100,000 views意见.
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05:54
I want you to check yourselves你自己 right now.
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我想请大家现在想想
当我们听到那样的数字
听到 1万5的浏览量
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I think when we hear numbers数字 like that,
when we hear "15,000 views意见,"
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and we see content内容 like this,
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我们会立刻认为这不合理
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we just snap categorize分类 it
as being存在 not as legitimate合法
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as a morning早上 show显示
that you'd hear on the radio无线电
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就像你在收音机听到的晨间节目
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or a talk show显示 that you'd
see on NBCNBC or something
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或者是你在NBC之类听到的脱口秀
但是当 有点搞笑 在Patreon上推出
06:09
But when "Kinda有点儿 Funny滑稽"
launched推出 on PatreonPatreon,
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within a few少数 weeks, they were
making制造 31,000 dollars美元 per month
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在几周之内他们就能够
平均每月赚到3万1千美元
06:15
for this show显示.
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就靠这个节目
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It took off so fast快速 that they decided决定
to expand扩大 their programming程序设计
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它发展得太快了以致于
他们决定扩展节目规划
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and add new shows节目,
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并且增添新的节目
06:21
and now they launched推出
a second第二 PatreonPatreon page --
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然后现在他们有了第二个Patreon主页
06:24
they're making制造 an additional额外
21,000 dollars美元 per month.
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每个月他们可以额外赚到2万1千美元
06:28
And they're scaling缩放 what's essentially实质上
becoming变得 a media媒体 company公司,
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他们已经扩张到差不多
成为一家媒体公司了
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financing融资 the whole整个 thing
through通过 membership.
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所有的资金都来自于会员制度
这是另一个例子
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OK, here's这里的 another另一个 example.
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This is Derek德里克 Bodnerbodner,
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这是Derek Bodner
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a sports体育 journalist记者 who used
to write for Philadelphia费城 Magazine杂志
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一个曾为费城杂志撰稿的体育记者
几个月之前这家杂志
删掉了所有的体育新闻报道
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until直到 a few少数 months个月 ago when
the magazine杂志 cut out all sports体育 coverage覆盖.
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现在他在自己的网站上
创作并且发布文章
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Now he writes articles用品
and publishes发布 them on his own拥有 website网站 --
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他仍然报道体育
但是是为了他自己
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he's still covering覆盖 sports体育,
but for himself他自己.
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现在他每月从1700位会员那里
赚到4800美元
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And he's making制造 4,800 bucks雄鹿
a month from 1,700 patrons食客,
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financing融资 it through通过 membership.
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通过会员制度赚钱
06:55
This is Crash紧急 Course课程 --
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这是速成班
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free自由 educational教育性 content内容 for the world世界.
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提供免费的教育内容给全世界
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This show显示 is actually其实
on the PBSPBS digital数字 network网络 --
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这个节目在PBS数字网络上播出
每月2万9千美元收入
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29,000 dollars美元 per month.
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This is a duo二人 sailing帆船 around the world世界,
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而这两人航行全世界
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getting得到 paid支付 every一切 month
for documenting文档化 their travels旅行
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通过记录他们的旅行获得收益
有1400位会员
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from 1,400 patrons食客.
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这个播客 城市陷阱屋 能赚到
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This is a podcast播客,
"ChapoChapo Trap陷阱 House", making制造 --
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实际上自从我截了这个图
07:12
actually其实, since以来 I screenshottedscreenshotted this,
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他们每个月能多赚2千美元
07:14
they're making制造 an additional额外
2,000 dollars美元 per month,
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所以他们现在通过博客
每月能赚取5万6千美元
07:16
so they're now making制造 56,000 dollars美元
per month for their podcast播客.
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07:21
And Patreon'sPatreon 的 not the only one
working加工 on the problem问题.
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Patreon不是唯一一个
研究这个问题的平台
甚至谷歌也在研究它
07:23
Even Google's谷歌的 starting开始 to work on this.
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07:25
A couple一对 years年份 ago,
they launched推出 Fan风扇 Funding资金;
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几年前他们推出了 粉丝众筹
最后又推出了 超级聊天
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more recently最近, they launched推出 Super Chat
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作为一种能将创作者的
直播流变现的途径
07:29
as a way for creators创作者
to monetize赚钱 live生活 streaming.
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Newspapers报纸 are starting开始
to experiment实验 with membership.
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报纸也开始尝试会员制
纽约时报有一个会员项目
07:34
New York纽约 Times has a membership program程序;
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卫报有超过20万的付费订阅者
07:36
The Guardian监护人 has over 200,000
paying付款 subscribers用户
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to its membership program程序.
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在它的会员项目中
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There's this bubbling冒泡 soup
of ideas思路 and experiments实验
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现在想法 实验 进步就像
滚汤中上涌的气泡
07:45
and progress进展 right now,
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并且它指出了能让创作者赚钱的方向
07:46
and it's pointing指点 in the direction方向
of getting得到 creators创作者 paid支付.
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And it's working加工.
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并且效果很不错
07:51
It's not, like, perfect完善 yet然而,
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虽然它现在还不完美
07:53
but it's really working加工.
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但效果很明显
07:54
So, PatreonPatreon has over 50,000 creators创作者
on the platform平台 making制造 salaries工资 --
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现在Patreon上有超过5万个创作者
在这个平台上赚取薪水
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getting得到 paid支付 every一切 month
for putting art艺术 online线上,
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通过将艺术放到网上
来得到每月收入
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for being存在 a creative创作的 person.
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去成为一个创作者
08:05
The next下一个 hundred years年份
of infrastructure基础设施 is on the way
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未来一百年的基础建设正在进行中
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and it's going to be different不同
this time because of this --
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并且这次它将变得不同 因为这个
这个在创作者和追随者之间
08:12
because of the direct直接 connection连接
between之间 the person who makes品牌 the thing
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建立的直接联系
08:15
and the person who likes喜欢 the thing.
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08:19
About seven or eight years年份 ago,
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大概七八年前
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I went to a cocktail鸡尾酒 party派对.
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我去参加一个鸡尾酒派对
08:24
This is when the band
had hit击中 our first machine,
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那时乐队第一次使用这种机制
08:27
so things were really cranking起动.
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万事开头难
08:28
We had just made制作
about 400,000 dollars美元 in one year
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我们刚刚在一年之内赚到40万美元
通过iTunes销量和品牌交易等途径
08:31
through通过 iTunesiTunes的 sales销售
and brand deals交易 and stuff东东 like that.
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08:33
And this guy comes up to me and says,
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这家伙来到我面前说
08:36
"Hey, Jack插口, what do you do?"
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你好 杰克 你是做什么的
08:37
I said, "I'm a musician音乐家."
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我说 我是一个音乐家
08:40
And he just sobered酒醒 up immediately立即,
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他立刻变得严肃起来
08:43
and he stuck卡住 out his hand,
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然后他伸出一只手
08:45
put a hand on my shoulder,
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另一只手搭在我的肩膀上
08:46
and in a real真实 earnest认真,
very nice不错 voice语音 he was like,
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用非常认真,友好的语气说
08:50
"I hope希望 you make it someday日后."
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我希望你某一天会成功
08:51
(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
08:54
And ...
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还有
08:57
I have so many许多 moments瞬间 like that
logged记录 in my memory记忆.
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我记忆里有太多相似的时刻了
我一想到这些就会有些怯懦
09:01
I just cringe低三下四 thinking思维 of that.
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09:04
It's so embarrassing尴尬 to just
not feel valued价值 as a creative创作的 person.
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作为一个创作者却不被认为有价值
这实在是太尴尬了
09:11
But as a species种类,
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但是作为一个物种
09:12
we are leaving离开 that cocktail鸡尾酒 party派对 behind背后.
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我们正在将那个鸡尾酒派对抛到脑后
09:15
We're leaving离开 that culture文化,
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我们正在远离那种文化
09:17
we're out of there.
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离开那个圈子
09:19
We're going to get so good
at paying付款 creators创作者,
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在10年之内 我们会越来越擅长
09:21
within 10 years年份,
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为创作者支付报酬
09:24
kids孩子 graduating毕业 high school学校 and college学院
are going to think of being存在 a creator创造者
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孩子们从中学和大学毕业后
也会将成为一名创作者
09:28
as just being存在 an option选项 --
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当作一个选项
09:29
I could be a doctor医生, I could be a lawyer律师,
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我可以成为一个医生
我可以成为一个律师
我可以成为一个播主
我可以开一个网络漫画
09:31
I could be a podcaster播客,
I could have a web卷筒纸 comic滑稽.
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它将是一件你可以去做的事
09:33
It's just going to be
something you can do.
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我们正在努力
09:35
We're figuring盘算 it out.
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09:37
It's going to be a viable可行 and sustainable可持续发展
and respected尊敬 profession职业.
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它会成为一个可行的 可持续的
并受到尊敬的职业
09:41
Creators are going to come out
the other end结束 of this weird奇怪的 100 years年份,
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创作者将从这奇怪的百年
这个世纪之旅的
另一端走出来
09:45
this century-long世纪龙 journey旅程,
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09:47
with an awesome真棒 new machine.
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伴随着一个绝妙的新机制
09:49
And they're going to be paid支付,
and they're going to be valued价值.
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他们将会获得报酬
他们将会受到重视
09:53
Thanks谢谢, everybody每个人.
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谢谢大家
09:55
(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
10:00
I think it went pretty漂亮 well.
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我认为讲得非常不错
10:03
I want artists艺术家 who saw that
to not give up --
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我想让看到它的艺术家们不要放弃
10:07
to know that we're getting得到 there.
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让他们知道我们正在改变现状
10:10
It's not there yet然而,
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现在还没有完全实现
10:13
but in a couple一对 years年份,
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但在未来的几年内
10:15
there will be so many许多 systems系统
and tools工具 for them
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会有更多的体系和工具出现
10:17
to just make a living活的 online线上,
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使他们可以在网络上谋生
10:19
and if they've他们已经 got a podcast播客
that's starting开始 to take off,
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如果他们已经有了一个播客
开始跃跃欲试
10:22
but they're not able能够
to make money on it yet然而,
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但目前还不能够通过这个赚钱
这很正常
10:25
that's happening事件
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但他们以后会赚到钱的
10:26
and they're going to be paid支付.
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指日可待
10:27
It's happening事件.
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Translated by Ivy Sun
Reviewed by Kai Lu

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Jack Conte - Musician, entrepreneur
With his membership platform Patreon, YouTube star Jack Conte may have solved a perennial problem of content creators -- getting paid for digital media.

Why you should listen

As a solo artist and member of folk-rock duo Pomplamoose, Jack Conte garnered millions of views for his offbeat "video songs," including his breakout hit "Yeah Yeah Yeah" and "Pedals," a robotic tour-de-force with a set that duplicates the cockpit of the Millennium Falcon.

Despite his success, Conte noted the disconnect between page views and revenue, and he realized that if you’re a widely viewed artist and you aren’t making money, "that's not your fault -- it’s technology's fault." His solution is Patreon: a membership platform built on recurring payments from patrons to support creatives with ongoing projects.

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Jack Conte | Speaker | TED.com

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