Vinay Shandal: How conscious investors can turn up the heat and make companies change
Vinay Schandal: Cómo los inversores responsables pueden presionar y hacer que las empresas cambien
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on the issues of the day.
just oozing charisma to solve the issues?
para resolver los problemas?
not going to solve the issues.
to solve the issues,
Paul Singer, Barry Rosenstein.
Paul Singer, Barry Rosenstein.
OGs of Wall Street.
of a company's CEO and board
y una junta
when you hear a bear outside your tent,
ante su tienda de campaña,
with a mouthful of Doritos --
llena de Doritos...
to pull down from the bear hang,
para quitar la trampa del oso
be passing through."
pase de largo".
but they definitely want money.
pero definitivamente quieren dinero.
the way they create value,
la forma con la que crean valor
that the changes they create,
los cambios que realizan,
is too short-term in nature.
they use are egregious.
que utilizan son atroces.
a small handful of activists,
to be constructive and collaborative.
constructivos y colaborativos.
where credit is due.
to catalyze large-scale change
un cambio a gran escala
with management to make change,
trabajasen por el cambio,
the environment and society.
el medioambiente y la sociedad.
and better world this would be.
que sería este mundo.
Why would an investor care?
¿Por qué le importaría a un inversor?
and governance issues --
y de gobierno--
corporate citizenship,
de ciudadanía corporativa,
for our collective futures,
de nuestro futuro colectivo,
an act of good corporate citizenship.
de ciudadanía corporativa.
that shows a clear correlation
que muestren la correlación
and financial performance.
y el rendimiento financiero.
for the environment and society
al medioambiente y la sociedad
companies are catching on.
lo están haciendo
and making money in the process.
y ganando dinero a la vez.
called Parley for the Oceans.
llamada Parley for the Oceans.
plastic waste from the ocean.
desechos plásticos del océano.
to make shoes.
para hacer zapatos.
and good for business.
y bueno para el negocio.
consumer segment known as hipsters --
de consumidores llamados hipsters
the choice between a no-name shoe
entre un zapato sin marca
plastic from the ocean
of the week and twice on Sunday,
y dos veces los domingos,
to talk about them.
para hablar de ello.
I'm a consultant. I make slides.
Soy consultor. Hago diapositivas.
I'm not looking --"
no estoy mirando".
must be bothering you.
les debe molestar.
for the rest of this ride.
durante el trayecto.
is from the ocean,
es del océano,
Océano contento.
I got eco-shoes.
Tengo zapatos ecológicos.
We've all been there.
I'll give you a discount code.
Les doy un código de descuento.
of moving Uber Pools.
en marcha.
Me fui. Me fui.
we need to love the hipsters.
tenemos que quererles.
necesitamos empresas como Adidas
and we need companies like Adidas,
to convince other companies
convenzan a otras empresas
call them "conscious investors."
"inversores responsables"
por las cuestiones de ESG.
engaging management on ESG issues.
con cuestiones de ESG.
management to make changes
que la gestión haga cambios
the environment and society.
y la sociedad.
can take a page from the playbook
pueden tomar como ejemplo
issues getting management to make changes.
en gestionar consiguiendo cambios.
de Wall Street,
loves making money.
le gusta ganar dinero.
USD 600 millones
and not pay it back.
y no devolverlo.
trying to seize up Argentinian assets.
los activos de Argentina.
an Argentinian navy vessel
un buque de la armada argentina
with big guns were on the ship.
con grandes armas estaban en el barco.
to show up with a crane
fuese con una grúa
the navy officers drew their weapons
tiraron sus armas
his original investment.
su inversión original.
stock in Whole Foods,
to sell itself to Amazon,
para venderse a Amazon,
same-day delivery of his organic Doritos.
dieran sus Doritos orgánicos el mismo día.
John Mackey, and the board
John Mackey, y la junta
the prime example of selling out.
dollars in the process.
en el proceso.
a very nice impression on John.
John and Barry just hugging it out
USD 10 mil millones.
against private prisons in the US,
de las prisiones privadas,
I am troubled by devastating images
por las horribles imágenes
out of the arms of their parents
de los brazos de sus padres
detention facilities that did too little
que hicieron muy poco
contact with their parents.
con sus padres.
in the eye and say,
to do things. Let me show you"?
de hacer las cosas?".
woke up the next day
We'd better be nice to the kids."
Deberíamos ser buenos con ellos".
of several high-profile divestitures
de grandes enajenaciones
has outperformed the market.
han superado al mercado.
investors owning the stock
que tenían las acciones
who don't care about these issues
no les importan los problemas
about these issues.
de los problemas.
with conscious investors.
con los inversores responsables.
to a greener world.
hacia un mundo más ecológico.
hacia una cartera más ecológica,
to a greener portfolio,
to flip the script,
from divesting to engaging,
a comprometerse,
to actually working with management
a verdaderamente trabajar en la gestión
their ESG performance?
el rendimiento de ESG?
they should and they could.
que deberían y podrían hacer.
between ESG performance
entre el rendimiento de ESG
have shown us they could.
nos han enseñado que podrían,
change in a company.
do what they do to make money.
lo hacen para ganar dinero.
to improve society and the environment
la sociedad y el medioambiente
collaboratively and constructively.
y constructivamente.
of the some of the largest investors.
de los grandes inversores.
together, they manage trillions.
juntos gestionan billones.
about the importance of ESG.
de la importancia de ESG.
increasingly vocal in his annual letters
abiertamente en sus cartas anuales
that John called "greedy bastards,"
que John llamó "cabrón codicioso",
to the board of Apple,
para Apple,
are addictive for children.
causan adicción a los niños.
is some pressure.
on conscious investors
hacia los inversores responsables
on management
the environment and society.
el medioambiente y la sociedad.
that matters to them
que les importe
that lines up with your purpose:
que esté alineado con su propósito:
labor rights, diversity.
la diversidad.
with your purpose, you are golden.
con tu propósito, son muy buenos.
professionals focused on this.
en inversiones se centren en esto.
shows up to a campaign,
muestra una campaña,
talking to the CEO and the board
quien habla con el CEO y la junta
to talk about an ESG issue,
para hablar de ESG,
in the risk department
en el departamento de riesgos
in the investor relations department,
del departamento de inversiones,
and that needs to change.
y esto necesita cambiar.
underperforms financially,
buenos resultados,
and work with management,
the company's financial performance.
el rendimiento económico de la empresa.
underperforms on ESG issues.
tiene malos resultado en ESG.
on how we measure ESG,
de cómo medimos el ESG,
managed in line with your values.
gestionado conforme a sus valores.
more conscious in the first place.
los inversores más responsables.
about your money being invested
cómo se estaba invirtiendo su dinero
don't line up with yours.
no concordaban con los suyos.
pushing them to divest,
para desinvertir,
truly work with management
a trabajar en la gestión
their ESG performance.
el rendimiento de ESG.
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Vinay Shandal - Investment agitatorBCG's Vinay Shandal is passionate about the role of capital in creating impact.
Why you should listen
A Partner in The Boston Consulting Group's Toronto office, Vinay Shandal leads BCG's Principal Investors and Private Equity practice in Canada. He also helps lead the global efforts on shareholder activism, a topic for which he developed passion while at Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz. Before becoming a consultant, Shandal practiced corporate law in New York and clerked at the Supreme Court of Canada in Ottawa.
Shandal has co-authored numerous BCG and other publications on various aspects of investing, shareholder activism and the role of capital in driving better societal outcomes.
As a leader at BCG's Centre for Canada's Future, Shandal is also invested in keeping tabs on and tackling some of the country’s most pressing issues. He is a board member of Capitalize 4 Kids, a nonprofit that aims to solve the toughest challenges in children's brain health and mental health. In his work, Shandal is most passionate about the role of capital in creating impact and most inspired by his wife, Christina, who is a respected social activist.
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