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James Patten: The best computer interface? Maybe ... your hands
James Patten: Najbolje računalno sučelje? Možda ... vaše ruke
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"Računalo je iznimno snažan način kreativnog izražavanja," kaže dizajner James Patten. Ali sada, u interakciji smo s računalima najviše tipkajući i dodirujući. U ovom izvandrednom govoru i prikazu, Patten zamišlja visceralniji, fizički način da bi oživjeli svoje misli i ideje u digitalnom svijetu, uklanjajući računalno sučelje s ekrana i stavljajući ga u vaše ruke.
James Patten - Interaction designer
James Patten, a TED Fellow, imagines new ways for us to play with computers. Full bio
James Patten, a TED Fellow, imagines new ways for us to play with computers. Full bio
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A computer is an incredibly powerful means
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Računalo je iznimno snažno sredstvo
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of creative expression,
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za kreativno izražavanje,
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but for the most part,
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no većinom,
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that expression is confined to the screens
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to izražavanje prikovano je za zaslone
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of our laptops and mobile phones.
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naših laptopa i mobilnih telefona.
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And I'd like to tell you a story about
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I volio bih vam ispričati priču o
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bringing this power of the computer
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donošenju snage računala
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to move things around and interact with us
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da bi pomicala stvari i
bila u interakciji s nama
bila u interakciji s nama
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off of the screen and into the physical world
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mimo zaslona, u fizičkom svijetu
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in which we live.
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u kojem živimo.
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A few years ago, I got a call from
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Prije par godina, dobio sam poziv od
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a luxury fashion store called Barneys New York,
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luksuzne modne trgovine Barneys
u New Yorku,
u New Yorku,
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and the next thing I knew,
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i sljedeća stvar koju sam radio,
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I was designing storefront kinetic sculptures
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dizajnirao sam kinetičke skulpture
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for their window displays.
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za njihove izloge.
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This one's called "The Chase."
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Ovaj se zove "Potjera".
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There are two pairs of shoes,
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Dva su para cipela,
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a man's pair and a woman's pair,
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muški i ženski par,
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and they play out this slow, tense chase
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i oni sudjeluju u ovoj polaganoj,
napetoj potjeri,
napetoj potjeri,
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around the window
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po izlogu
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in which the man scoots up behind the woman
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u kojoj čovjek priđe ženi s leđa
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and gets in her personal space,
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i uđe u njen osobni prostor,
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and then she moves away.
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i onda se ona odmakne.
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Each of the shoes has magnets in it,
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Svaka cipela u sebi ima magnet,
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and there are magnets underneath the table
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i postoje magneti ispod stola
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that move the shoes around.
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koji pomiču cipele.
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My friend Andy Cavatorta was building
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Moj prijatelj Andy Cavatorta gradio je
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a robotic harp for Bjork's Biophilia tour
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robotsku harfu za Biophilia turneju
pjevačice Bjork,
pjevačice Bjork,
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and I wound up building the electronics
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i ja sam radio elektroniku
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and motion control software
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i softver za kontrolu kretanja
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to make the harps move and play music.
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koji je omogućavao harfama
kretanje i sviranje.
kretanje i sviranje.
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The harp has four separate pendulums,
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Harfa ima četiri odvojena njihala,
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and each pendulum has 11 strings,
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i svako njihalo ima 11 žica,
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so the harp swings on its axis and also rotates
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tako da se harfa ljulja
i rotira na svojoj osi
i rotira na svojoj osi
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in order to play different musical notes,
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kako bi svirala različite note,
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and the harps are all networked together
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i sve su harfe povezane
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so that they can play the right notes
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kako bi svirale prave note
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at the right time in the music.
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u pravo vrijeme u glazbi.
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I built an interactive chemistry exhibit
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Izradio sam interaktivnu izložbu kemije
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at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago,
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u Muzeju Znanosti i industrije u Chicagu,
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and this exhibit lets people use physical objects
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i ova izložba dozvoljava
ljudima da koriste stvarne predmete
ljudima da koriste stvarne predmete
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to grab chemical elements off of the periodic table
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kako bi pokupili elemente
s periodne tablice
s periodne tablice
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and bring them together to cause
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i donesu ih kako bi uzrokovali
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chemical reactions to happen.
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kemijsku reakciju.
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And the museum noticed that people
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I muzej je uočio da ljudi
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were spending a lot of time with this exhibit,
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puno više vremena provode kod ove izložbe,
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and a researcher from a science education center
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i istraživač iz centra za učenje o znanosti
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in Australia decided to study this exhibit
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u Australiji odlučio je
proučavati ovu izložbu
proučavati ovu izložbu
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and try to figure out what was going on.
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i pokušati shvatiti što se događa.
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And she found that the physical objects
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I otkrila je da stvarni predmeti
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that people were using were helping people
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koje ljudi koriste su pomagali ljudima
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understand how to use the exhibit,
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da shvate kako koristiti izložbu,
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and were helping people learn in a social way.
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i pomagali su ljudima
učiti na društven način.
učiti na društven način.
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And when you think about
it, this makes a lot of sense,
it, this makes a lot of sense,
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I kada razmislite o tome, to ima smisla,
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that using specialized physical objects
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korištenje specijaliziranih predmeta
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would help people use an interface more easily.
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pomoglo bi ljudima da
lakše koriste sučelje.
lakše koriste sučelje.
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I mean, our hands and our minds are optimized
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Mislim, naše ruke i umovi optimizirani su
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to think about and interact with tangible objects.
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da razmišljaju o i budu
u interakciji s opipljivim predmetima.
u interakciji s opipljivim predmetima.
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Think about which you find easier to use,
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Razmislite što vam je lakše koristiti,
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a physical keyboard or an onscreen keyboard
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fizička tipkovnica ili ona na zaslonu
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like on a phone?
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kao na telefonu?
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But the thing that struck me
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Ali ono što me pogodilo
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about all of these different projects
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vezano uz sve ove različite projekte
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is that they really had to be built from scratch,
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je da su oni morali biti
izgrađeni od početka,
izgrađeni od početka,
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down to the level of the electronics
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od same elektronike
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and the printed circuit boards and
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i pločica i
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all the mechanisms all the way up to the software.
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svih mehanizama do softvera.
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I wanted to create something
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Htio sam stvoriti nešto
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where we could move objects
under computer control
under computer control
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gdje ćemo moći pomicati predmete
pod računalnom kontrolom
pod računalnom kontrolom
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and create interactions around that idea
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i stvoriti interakcije oko te ideje
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without having to go through this process
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bez da moram prolaziti kroz ovaj proces
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of building something from scratch
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građenja nečeg iz početka
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every single time.
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svaki put.
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So my first attempt at this
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Moj prvi pokušaj ovoga je
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was at the MIT Media Lab
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bio u MIT Media Lab-u
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with Professor Hiroshi Ishii,
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sa profesorom Hiroshi Ishiiem,
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and we built this array of
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i izgradili smo ovaj red od
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512 different electromagnets,
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512 različitih elektromagneta,
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and together they were able to move objects around
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i zajedno oni su mogli pomicati predmete
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on top of their surface.
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na svojoj površini.
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But the problem with this
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Ali problem s ovim je
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was that these magnets
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da su ovi magneti
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cost over 10,000 dollars.
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koštali više od 10000 dolara.
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Although each one was pretty small,
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Iako je svaki poprilično malen,
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altogether they weighed so much
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težili su tako puno
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that the table that they were on
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da je stol na kojem su bili
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started to sag.
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počeo tonuti.
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So I wanted to build something
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Tako da sam htio izgraditi nešto
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where you could have this kind of interaction
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gdje bi smo mogli imati ovakvu interakciju
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on any tabletop surface.
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na bilo kojoj ravnoj površini.
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So to explore this idea,
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Kako bih istražio ovu ideju,
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I built an army of small robots,
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izgradio sam vojsku malih robota,
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and each of these robots has
what are called omni wheels.
what are called omni wheels.
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i svaki od ovih robota
imao je ono što zovemo omni kotači.
imao je ono što zovemo omni kotači.
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They're these special wheels
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To su posebni kotači
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that can move equally easily in all directions,
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koji se mogu kretati
jednako u svim smjerovima,
jednako u svim smjerovima,
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and when you couple these robots
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i kada uparite ove robote
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with a video projector,
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sa video projektorom,
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you have these physical tools
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dobivate ove alate
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for interacting with digital information.
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za interakciju s digitalnim informacijama.
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So here's an example of what I mean.
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Ovdje je primjer toga što sam opisao.
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This is a video editing application
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Ovo je aplikacija za uređivanje videa
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where all of the controls
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gdje su sve kontrole
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for manipulating the video are physical.
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za manipulaciju videom fizičke.
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So if we want to tweak the color,
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Ako želimo podesiti boju,
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we just enter the color mode,
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uđemo u mod za boju
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and then we get three different dials
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i onda dobijemo tri različita brojčanika
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for tweaking the color,
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za podešavanje boje,
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or if we want to adjust the audio,
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ili ako želimo podesiti zvuk,
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then we get two different dials
for that, these physical objects.
for that, these physical objects.
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dobijemo dva brojčanika za to,
ove fizičke predmete.
ove fizičke predmete.
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So here the left and right channel stay in sync,
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Ovdje su lijevi i desni kanal
sinkronizirani,
sinkronizirani,
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but if we want to, we can override that
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no ako želimo, možemo to promijeniti
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by grabbing both of them at the same time.
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hvatanjem oba kanala odjednom.
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So the idea is that we get the speed
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Ideja je da imamo brzinu
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and efficiency benefits of using these physical dials
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i učinkovitost korištenjem
ovih fizičkih brojčanika
ovih fizičkih brojčanika
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together with the flexibility and versatility
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zajedno sa fleksibilnošću
i prilagodljivošću
i prilagodljivošću
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of a system that's designed in software.
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sustava koji je dizajniran u softveru.
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And this is a mapping application
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I ovo je aplikacija za mapiranje
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for disaster response.
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za odgovor na katastrofu.
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So you have these physical objects
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Imate ove fizičke predmete
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that represent police, fire and rescue,
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koji predstavljaju policiju,
vatrogasce i spasitelje,
vatrogasce i spasitelje,
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and a dispatcher can grab them
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i dispečer ih može uhvatiti
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and place them on the map
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i postaviti ih na kartu
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to tell those units where to go,
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kako bi rekao tim jedinicama kamo da idu,
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and then the position of the units on the map
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i onda se pozicije jedinica na karti
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gets synced up with the position
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sinkroniziraju s pozicijama
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of those units in the real world.
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tih jedinica u stvarnom svijetu.
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This is a video chat application.
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Ovo je aplikacija za video chat.
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It's amazing how much emotion you can convey
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Zadivljujuće je koliko emocija
možete prenijeti
možete prenijeti
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with just a few simple movements
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sa nekoliko jednostavnih pokreta
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of a physical object.
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fizičkog predmeta.
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With this interface, we open up
a huge array of possibilities
a huge array of possibilities
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S ovim sučeljem otvaramo
širok spektar mogućnosti
širok spektar mogućnosti
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in between traditional board games
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od tradicionalnih igara na ploči
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and arcade games,
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do arkadnih igara
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where the physical possibilities of interaction
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gdje mogućnosti za fizičku interakciju
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make so many different styles of play possible.
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daju toliko različitih stilova igranja.
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But one of the areas that I'm most excited
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Ali područja zbog kojih sam najuzbuđeniji
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about using this platform for
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u korištenju ove platforme
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is applying it to problems that are difficult
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su primjena na probleme koji su teški
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for computers or people to solve alone.
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za rješavanje računalima
ili ljudima samostalno.
ili ljudima samostalno.
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One example of those is protein folding.
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Jedan od tih je slaganje bjelančevina.
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So here we have an interface
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Ovdje imamo sučelje
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where we have physical handles onto a protein,
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na kojem imamo fizičke ručke
na bjelančevini
na bjelančevini
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and we can grab those handles
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i možemo uhvatiti te ručke
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and try to move the protein and
try to fold it in different ways.
try to fold it in different ways.
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i pokušati pomaknuti bjelančevinu i
pokušati ju složiti na različte načine.
pokušati ju složiti na različte načine.
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And if we move it in a way that
doesn't really make sense
doesn't really make sense
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I ako ju pomaknemo na način
koji nema smisla
koji nema smisla
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with the underlying molecular simulation,
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sa molekularnom simulacijom,
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we get this physical feedback where we can
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dobijemo ovu povratnu
informaciju gdje možemo
informaciju gdje možemo
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actually feel these physical handles
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osjetiti ove ručke
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pulling back against us.
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kako se opiru.
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So feeling what's going on
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Osjećati što se događa
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inside a molecular simulation
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u molekularnoj simulaciji
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is a whole different level of interaction.
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je potpuno nov nivo interakcije.
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So we're just beginning to explore
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Tek počinjemo istraživati
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what's possible when we use software
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što je moguće kada koristimo softver
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to control the movement
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kako bi kontrolirali kretanje
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of objects in our environment.
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predmeta u okolišu.
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Maybe this is the computer of the future.
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Možda je ovo računalo budućnosti.
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There's no touchscreen.
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Nema ekrana na dodir.
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There's no technology visible at all.
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Nema vidljive tehnologije.
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But when we want to have a video chat
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Ali kada želimo video chat
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or play a game
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ili igrati igru
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or lay out the slides to our next TED Talk,
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ili postaviti slajdove
za sljedeći TED Govor,
za sljedeći TED Govor,
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the objects on the table come alive.
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predmeti na stolu ožive.
06:03
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
James Patten - Interaction designerJames Patten, a TED Fellow, imagines new ways for us to play with computers.
Why you should listen
James Patten is an interaction designer, inventor and visual artist working at the intersection of the physical and digital worlds. Patten is a TED Fellow and the founder and principal of the design firm Patten Studio, where his clients have included Björk, Barneys New York, General Electric, Steelcase and Autodesk. Patten earned his doctorate at the MIT Media Lab where he studied in the Tangible Media Group under Hiroshi Ishii. His work has been exhibited or performed in venues such as the Museum of Modern Art, the Transmediale festival in Berlin, the Museo Guggenheim Bilbao and the Ars Electronica Center in Linz, Austria. Patten's work has been recognized in several international design competitions including the International Design Magazine's Annual Design Review, and the International Design Excellence Awards. Tour his Brooklyn workshop.
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