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Sebastián Bortnik: The conversation we're not having about digital child abuse
Sebastián Bortnik: Razgovor koji ne vodimo o digitalnom zlostavljanju djece
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Moramo razgovarati s djecom o opasnostima s kojima se suočavaju na Internetu, kaže stručnjak za informatičku sigurnost, Sebastián Bortnik. U ovom razgovoru Bortnik opisuje "grooming", seksualno zlostavljanje maloljetnika na Internetu od strane odraslih osoba, i otkriva razgovore o tehnologiji koje moramo početi voditi kako bi naša djeca bila sigurna.
Sebastián Bortnik - Information security specialist
Sebastián Bortnik's work is focused on preventing cyber attacks. Full bio
Sebastián Bortnik's work is focused on preventing cyber attacks. Full bio
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This is Nina Rodríguez's Facebook profile.
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Ovo je Facebook profil Nine Rodríguez.
Imala je tri različita profila
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This person had three different profiles
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and 890 kids between 8 and 13 years old
among her friends list.
among her friends list.
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i 890 dječaka starih između 8 i 13 godina
među svojim kontaktima.
među svojim kontaktima.
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These are excerpts of a chat
with one of those kids.
with one of those kids.
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Ovo su isječci razgovora
s jednim od tih dječaka.
s jednim od tih dječaka.
Razgovor je tekstualan
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This is an exact copy of the chat.
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i nalazi se u dosjeu.
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It's part of the case file.
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Ovaj joj je dječak slao
intimne slike
intimne slike
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This kid started sending private photos
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sve dok njegova obitelj
nije za to saznala.
nije za to saznala.
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until his family realized
what was going on.
what was going on.
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Optužbom i istragom koja je uslijedila
razotkriveno je mjesto prebivališta.
razotkriveno je mjesto prebivališta.
00:51
The police report and subsequent
investigation lead them to a house.
investigation lead them to a house.
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This was the girl's bedroom.
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Ovo je bila njezina soba.
Nina Rodríguez je u stvarnosti
bila odrasla osoba od 24 godine
bila odrasla osoba od 24 godine
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Nina Rodríguez was actually
a 24-year-old man
a 24-year-old man
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koja je to običavala raditi
mnogim maloljetnicima.
mnogim maloljetnicima.
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that used to do this with lots of kids.
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Micaela Ortega imala je 12 godina
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Micaela Ortega was 12 years old
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when she went to meet
her new Facebook friend,
her new Facebook friend,
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kada se otišla naći s
novom Facebook prijateljicom
novom Facebook prijateljicom
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also 12.
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istih godina.
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"Rochi de River," was her name.
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Govorila je da se zove "Rochi de River".
U stvarnosti se našla s
Jonathanom Lunom (26)
Jonathanom Lunom (26)
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She actually met Jonathan Luna,
who was 26 years old.
who was 26 years old.
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koji je, kad su ga konačno uhitili,
priznao da ju je ubio
priznao da ju je ubio
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When they finally caught him,
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he confessed that he killed the girl
because she refused to have sex with him.
because she refused to have sex with him.
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jer djevojčica nije htjela
imati seksualne odnose.
imati seksualne odnose.
On je imao četiri Facebook profila
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He had four Facebook profiles
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and 1,700 women on his contact list;
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i 1700 žena među kontaktima.
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90 percent of them
were under 13 years old.
were under 13 years old.
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Devedeset posto njih
bilo je mlađe od 13 godina.
bilo je mlađe od 13 godina.
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These are two different
cases of "grooming":
cases of "grooming":
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Ovo su dva različita
slučaja "groominga":
slučaja "groominga":
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an adult contacts a kid
through the internet,
through the internet,
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odrasla osoba kontaktira
maloljetnu preko Interneta
maloljetnu preko Interneta
te ih manipulacijom ili prijevarom
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and through manipulation or lying,
leads that kid into sexual territory --
leads that kid into sexual territory --
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dovodi do seksualnog područja,
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from talking about sex
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od razgovora o seksu do
dijeljenja intimnih fotografija,
dijeljenja intimnih fotografija,
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to sharing private photos,
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snimanja preko web kamere
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recording the kid using a webcam
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ili dogovora fizičkog susreta.
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or arranging an in-person meeting.
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02:14
This is grooming.
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To je grooming.
Postoji i dobiva na snazi.
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This is happening, and it's on the rise.
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02:21
The question is: What are we going to do?
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Pitanje je: "Što ćemo učiniti?"
jer su u međuvremenu djeca sama.
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Because, in the meantime, kids are alone.
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Završavaju s večerom, odlaze u sobu,
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They finish dinner, go to their rooms,
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zatvaraju vrata
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close the door,
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uzimaju računalo, mobitel
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get on their computer, their cell phones,
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i ulaze u klub,
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and get into a bar,
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u disko.
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into a club.
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Think for one second
about what I've just said:
about what I've just said:
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Razmislite na sekundu
o ovome što sam vam rekao:
o ovome što sam vam rekao:
nalaze se na mjestu punom neznanaca
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they're in a place full of strangers
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u okruženju bez inhibicija.
02:49
in an uninhibited environment.
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The internet broke physical boundaries.
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Internet je slomio fizičke prepreke.
Kad smo sami u svojoj sobi
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When we're alone in our bedroom
and we go online,
and we go online,
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i spojimo se na Internet,
zapravo nismo sami.
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we're not really alone.
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Postoje najmanje dva razloga zašto
se ne zanimamo za ovu temu,
se ne zanimamo za ovu temu,
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There are at least two reasons
why we're not taking care of this,
why we're not taking care of this,
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odnosno zašto se ne zanimamo
na pravi način.
na pravi način.
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or at least not in the right way.
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Prvi je zato što smo sigurni
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First, we're sure that everything
that happens online is "virtual."
that happens online is "virtual."
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da je sve što se događa
na Internetu virtualno.
na Internetu virtualno.
U biti, tako ga i zovemo:
"virtualni svijet".
"virtualni svijet".
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In fact, we call it "the virtual world."
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If you look it up in the dictionary,
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Ako potražite u rječniku,
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something virtual is something
that seems to exist
that seems to exist
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virtualno znači nešto
prividno i nestvarno.
prividno i nestvarno.
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but is not real.
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Koristimo tu riječ
kad se radi o Internetu,
kad se radi o Internetu,
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And we use that word
to talk about the internet:
to talk about the internet:
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nečemu nestvarnom.
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something not real.
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I u tome leži problem s groomingom,
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And that's the problem with grooming.
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It is real.
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koji je stvaran.
Poremećene, izopaćene
odrasle osobe koriste Internet
odrasle osobe koriste Internet
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Degenerate, perverted adults
use the internet to abuse boys and girls
use the internet to abuse boys and girls
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kako bi zlostavljale dječake i djevojčice.
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and take advantage of, among other things,
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I koriste se, izmedu ostalog, time
što roditelji i djeca misle da se ono
što se ondje događa, zapravo ne događa.
što se ondje događa, zapravo ne događa.
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the fact that the kids and their parents
think that what happens online
think that what happens online
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doesn't actually happen.
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Prije nekoliko godina s kolegama sam
osnovao NVO, "Cybersigurna Argentina",
osnovao NVO, "Cybersigurna Argentina",
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Several years ago,
some colleagues and I founded an NGO
some colleagues and I founded an NGO
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called "Argentina Cibersegura,"
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dedicated to raising awareness
about online safety.
about online safety.
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koja se bavi osvještavanjem
o sigurnom surfanju Internetom.
o sigurnom surfanju Internetom.
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In 2013, we attended meetings
at the House of Legislature
at the House of Legislature
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U 2013. sudjelovali smo na sastancima
Zastupničkog doma
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to discuss a law about grooming.
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gdje se raspravljalo o
Zakonu o groomingu.
Zakonu o groomingu.
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I remember that a lot of people thought
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Sjećam se da je za mnoge
grooming značio tek korak koji prethodi
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that grooming was strictly a precursor
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04:24
to arranging an in-person meeting
with a kid to have sex with them.
with a kid to have sex with them.
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dogovoru za fizički susret
s djecom i spolnim odnosima s njima.
s djecom i spolnim odnosima s njima.
No, nisu mislili da se događa djeci
04:30
But they didn't think about what happened
to the kids who were exposed
to the kids who were exposed
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koja su neznajući bila izložena
razgovoru o seksu s odraslom osobom,
razgovoru o seksu s odraslom osobom,
04:33
by talking about sex
with an adult without knowing it,
with an adult without knowing it,
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koja su dijelila intimne slike
misleći da će ih vidjeti drugo dijete
misleći da će ih vidjeti drugo dijete
04:37
or who shared intimate photos thinking
only another kid would see them,
only another kid would see them,
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ili, još gore,
04:41
or even worse,
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04:43
who had exposed themselves
using their web cam.
using their web cam.
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koja su se razotkrivala preko web kamere;
nitko to nije doživljavao zlostavljanjem.
04:46
Nobody considered that rape.
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Siguran sam da
za mnoge od vas zvuči čudno
za mnoge od vas zvuči čudno
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I'm sure lots of you find it odd to think
one person can abuse another
one person can abuse another
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da netko nekoga može zlostavljati
a da ga pritom ne dotakne.
a da ga pritom ne dotakne.
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without physical contact.
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04:57
We're programmed to think that way.
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Oblikovani smo da tako mislimo.
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I know, because I used to think that way.
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Znam, jer sam i ja bio takav.
Bio sam običan tehničar
za informatičku sigurnost
za informatičku sigurnost
05:03
I was just an IT security guy
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dok mi se nije dogodilo ovo.
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until this happened to me.
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05:11
At the end of 2011,
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Krajem 2011. godine,
u malom gradu provincije Buenos Aires,
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in a little town in Buenos Aires Province,
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05:16
I heard about a case for the first time.
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prvi sam put čuo za takav jedan slučaj.
Kad sam završio s izlaganjem,
05:20
After giving a talk,
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05:23
I met the parents of an 11-year-old girl
who had been a victim of grooming.
who had been a victim of grooming.
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prišli su mi roditelji
jedanaestogodišnje djevojčice
jedanaestogodišnje djevojčice
koja je bila žrtva groominga.
05:30
A man had manipulated her
into masturbating in front of her web cam,
into masturbating in front of her web cam,
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Odrasla osoba ju je nagovorila
da se samozadovolji
pred web kamerom
pred web kamerom
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and recorded it.
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te ju je snimila.
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And the video was on several websites.
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I video je kružio raznim
Internet stranicama.
Internet stranicama.
Tog su nas dana
roditelji u suzama molili
roditelji u suzama molili
05:40
That day, her parents asked us, in tears,
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05:43
to tell them the magic formula
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da im damo recept kako
maknuti te snimke s Interneta.
maknuti te snimke s Interneta.
05:45
for how to delete those videos
from the internet.
from the internet.
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Slomilo mi se srce,
05:50
It broke my heart and changed me forever
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a dio mene se promijenio zauvijek;
05:53
to be their last disappointment,
telling them it was too late:
telling them it was too late:
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bio sam njihovo zadnje razočaranje
i rekao da je za to prekasno.
i rekao da je za to prekasno.
Jednom kad se sadržaj
podijeli na Internetu
podijeli na Internetu
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once content is online,
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06:00
we've already lost control.
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nemamo više kontrolu nad njim.
06:04
Since that day, I think about that girl
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Od tog dana mislim na tu djevojčicu,
koja se ujutro budi
06:09
waking up in the morning,
having breakfast with her family,
having breakfast with her family,
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i doručkuje sa svojom obitelji
koja je vidjela taj video,
koja je vidjela taj video,
06:12
who had seen the video,
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i odlazi u školu
06:15
and then walking to school, meeting
people that had seen her naked,
people that had seen her naked,
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i putem susreće ljude
koji su je vidjeli golu,
koji su je vidjeli golu,
i dolazi i igra se s prijateljima
koji su je također takvu vidjeli.
koji su je također takvu vidjeli.
06:20
arriving to school, playing with
her friends, who had also seen her.
her friends, who had also seen her.
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Tako živi.
06:26
That was her life.
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Izložena.
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Exposed.
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06:33
Of course, nobody raped her body.
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Naravno da je nitko nije silovao.
No, nije li njezina
seksualnost iskorištena?
seksualnost iskorištena?
06:37
But hadn't her sexuality been abused?
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06:42
We clearly use different standards
to measure physical and digital things.
to measure physical and digital things.
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Očito je da imamo različite mjere
za ono fizičko i ono digitalno.
za ono fizičko i ono digitalno.
Ljutimo se na društvene mreže
06:49
And we get angry at social networks
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jer ljutiti se na nas same
bilo bi bolnije i iskrenije.
bilo bi bolnije i iskrenije.
06:51
because being angry with ourselves
is more painful and more true.
is more painful and more true.
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To nas dovodi do drugog razloga
06:56
And this brings us
to the second reason why
to the second reason why
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zašto se ne zanimamo
za ovu temu na pravi način.
za ovu temu na pravi način.
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we aren't paying proper
attention to this issue.
attention to this issue.
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Uvjereni smo
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We're convinced that kids
don't need our help,
don't need our help,
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da djeca ne trebaju našu pomoć,
da im je tehnologija "jasna".
07:06
that they "know everything"
about technology.
about technology.
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07:12
When I was a kid,
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Kad sam ja bio dijete,
07:14
at one point, my parents started
letting me walk to school alone.
letting me walk to school alone.
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u nekom su mi trenutku
dopustili da idem sam u školu.
dopustili da idem sam u školu.
Nakon što su me godinama
starci držali za ruku,
starci držali za ruku,
07:19
After years of taking me by the hand
and walking me to school,
and walking me to school,
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jednog dana su me posjeli,
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one day they sat me down,
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dali mi ključeve od kuće
07:26
gave me the house keys
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07:27
and said, "Be very careful with these;
don't give them to anyone,
don't give them to anyone,
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i rekli: "Dobro ih čuvaj,
ne daj ih nikome,
ne daj ih nikome,
07:31
take the route we showed you,
be at home at the time we said,
be at home at the time we said,
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idi i vrati se putem koji smo ti pokazali,
vrati se u vrijeme koje smo ti rekli,
07:36
cross at the corner,
and look both ways before you cross,
and look both ways before you cross,
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prijeđi cestu na uglu, a prije
pogledaj lijevo i desno
pogledaj lijevo i desno
07:38
and no matter what,
don't talk to strangers."
don't talk to strangers."
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i, najvažnije, ne pričaj s nepoznatima".
07:44
I knew everything about walking,
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Jako sam dobro znao hodati,
a ipak, tu je bila figura odrasle osobe
zadužene da me pazi.
zadužene da me pazi.
07:47
and yet, there was a responsible adult
there taking care of me.
there taking care of me.
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07:52
Knowing how to do something is one thing,
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Jedna je stvar znati nešto raditi,
a druga je znati se paziti.
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knowing how to take care
of yourself is another.
of yourself is another.
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07:58
Imagine this situation:
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Zamislite sa mnom sljedeću situaciju:
08:00
I'm 10 or 11 years old,
I wake up in the morning,
I wake up in the morning,
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imam 10 ili 11 godina,
probudim se ujutro,
probudim se ujutro,
08:03
my parents toss me the keys and say,
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bace mi ključeve od kuće i kažu:
"Seba, danas možeš
ići sam pješke u školu".
ići sam pješke u školu".
08:05
"Seba, now you can walk to school alone."
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08:08
And when I come back late,
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I kad se vratim kasno,
08:11
they say, "No, you need to be home
at the time we said."
at the time we said."
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kažu mi: "Ah, ne! Moraš se
vratiti u vrijeme koje ti kažemo".
vratiti u vrijeme koje ti kažemo".
08:16
And two weeks later,
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I dva tjedna kasnije,
08:18
when it comes up,
they say, "You know what?
they say, "You know what?
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usputno: "Znaš što?
Moraš prelaziti cestu na uglu
08:21
You have to cross at the corner,
and look both ways before crossing."
and look both ways before crossing."
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i prije pogledati lijevo i desno".
08:26
And two years later, they say,
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I dvije godine poslije:
08:29
"And also, don't talk to strangers."
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"Ah! I ne pričaj s nepoznatima".
08:34
It sounds absurd, right?
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Zvuči blesavo, zar ne?
08:38
We have the same absurd behavior
in relation to technology.
in relation to technology.
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Tako se blesavo mi
ponašamo s tehnologijom.
ponašamo s tehnologijom.
08:42
We give kids total access
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Djeci dajemo potpuni pristup
08:44
and we see if one day, sooner or later,
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i čekamo hoće li jednog dana,
kasnije no što bi trebali,
kasnije no što bi trebali,
naučiti kako se paziti.
08:47
they learn how to take care of themselves.
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Jedna stvar je znati nešto učiniti,
08:50
Knowing how to do something is one thing,
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druga je znati se paziti.
08:52
knowing how to take care
of yourself is another.
of yourself is another.
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Također, kad držimo govore za roditelje
08:56
Along those same lines,
when we talk to parents,
when we talk to parents,
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08:59
they often say they don't care
about technology and social networks.
about technology and social networks.
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često nam kažu kako
njih ne zanima tehnologija,
njih ne zanima tehnologija,
kako ih ne zanimaju društvene mreže.
09:06
I always rejoin that by asking
if they care about their kids.
if they care about their kids.
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Uvijek ih na to upitam
zanimaju li ih njihova djeca.
zanimaju li ih njihova djeca.
Za nas odrasle, približiti se
ili ne tehnologiji
ili ne tehnologiji
09:09
As adults, being interested
or not in technology
or not in technology
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is the same as being interested
or not in our kids.
or not in our kids.
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znači isto što i
približiti se ili ne djeci.
približiti se ili ne djeci.
09:15
The internet is part of their lives.
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Internet je dio njihovog života.
09:18
Technology forces us to rethink
the relationship between adults and kids.
the relationship between adults and kids.
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Tehnologija nas tjera
da promislimo
da promislimo
o odnosu između odraslih i maloljetnika.
09:24
Education was always based
on two main concepts:
on two main concepts:
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Obrazovanje je uvijek
počivalo na dva stupa:
počivalo na dva stupa:
iskustvu i znanju.
09:28
experience and knowledge.
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Kako onda možemo podučavati
kako sigurno pretraživati Internet
kako sigurno pretraživati Internet
09:32
How do we teach our kids to be safe online
when we don't have either?
when we don't have either?
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kad nemamo ni jedno ni drugo?
09:40
Nowadays, we adults
have to guide our children
have to guide our children
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Mi odrasli danas
moramo usmjeravati djecu
moramo usmjeravati djecu
u područjima koje često ne poznajemo,
09:42
through what is often for us
unfamiliar territory --
unfamiliar territory --
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a njima su vrlo bliska.
09:45
territory much more inviting for them.
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Nemoguće je, dakle, pronaći odgovor
09:49
It's impossible to find an answer
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09:52
without doing new things --
things that make us uncomfortable,
things that make us uncomfortable,
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ako se ne upustimo u stvari
koje nam nisu toliko ugodne,
koje nam nisu toliko ugodne,
na koje nismo navikli.
09:55
things we're not used to.
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09:59
A lot of you may think it's easy for me,
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Mnogi od vas možda misle
da je meni sve ovo jednostavno
da je meni sve ovo jednostavno
jer sam relativno mlad.
10:02
because I'm relatively young.
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10:04
And it used to be that way.
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I uglavnom je to i bilo tako.
10:07
Used to.
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Bilo.
Do prošle godine
10:10
Until last year,
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10:12
when I felt the weight
of my age on my shoulders
of my age on my shoulders
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kad sam osjetio teške
godine na leđima
godine na leđima
prvi put kad sam otvorio Snapchat.
10:17
the first time I opened Snapchat.
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(Smijeh)
10:22
(Laughter)
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(Pljesak)
10:26
(Applause)
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Apsolutno ništa nisam shvaćao!
10:31
I didn't understand a thing!
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Djelovao mi je kao
nepotrebna društvena mreža,
nepotrebna društvena mreža,
10:35
I found it unnecessary,
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10:37
useless, hard to understand;
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beskorisna, neshvatljiva;
10:40
it looked like a camera!
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činio se poput fotoaparata!
10:42
It didn't have menu options!
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Nije imao izbornik s opcijama!
Tad sam prvi put osjetio jaz
10:46
It was the first time I felt the gap
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koji ponekad postoji
između djece i odraslih.
između djece i odraslih.
10:49
that sometimes exists
between kids and adults.
between kids and adults.
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Ali, istovremeno je to bila prilika
da učinim nešto ispravno:
da učinim nešto ispravno:
10:53
But it was also an opportunity
to do the right thing,
to do the right thing,
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10:57
to leave my comfort zone, to force myself.
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da izađem iz ugodne zone i da se prislim.
Osjećao sam da nikad
u životu neću koristiti Snapchat.
u životu neću koristiti Snapchat.
11:00
I never thought I'd ever use Snapchat,
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11:04
but then I asked my teenage cousin
to show me how to use it.
to show me how to use it.
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Ipak, kasnije sam upitao
moju sestričnu, tinejdžericu,
moju sestričnu, tinejdžericu,
da mi objasni kako ga koristi.
Ali, i zašto ga koristi.
11:10
I also asked why she used it.
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Zašto je zabavlja.
11:12
What was fun about it?
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Lijepo smo porazgovarali.
11:15
We had a really nice talk.
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Pokazala mi je svoj Snapchat,
svašta mi ispričala,
svašta mi ispričala,
11:17
She showed me her Snapchat,
she told me things,
she told me things,
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zbližili smo se i nasmijali.
11:20
we got closer, we laughed.
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11:24
Today, I use it.
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Danas ga koristim,
(Smijeh)
11:26
(Laughter)
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ne znam koliko dobro,
11:28
I don't know if I do it right,
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ali najbitnije je da mi je poznat
11:30
but the most important thing
is that I know it and I understand it.
is that I know it and I understand it.
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i da ga razumijem.
11:36
The key was to overcome the initial shock
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Ključ je bio u tome da se
othrvam početnom dojmu,
othrvam početnom dojmu,
11:40
and do something new.
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da se upustim učiniti nešto novo,
11:43
Something new.
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nešto novo.
11:45
Today, we have the chance
to create new conversations.
to create new conversations.
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Danas imamo priliku
stvoriti nove dijaloge.
stvoriti nove dijaloge.
Koja je zadnja aplikacija
koju si skinuo?
koju si skinuo?
11:49
What's the last app you downloaded?
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Na kojoj društvenoj mreži
razgovaraš s prijateljima?
razgovaraš s prijateljima?
11:51
Which social network do you use
to contact your friends?
to contact your friends?
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Koju vrstu informacija dijeliš?
11:55
What kind of information do you share?
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Je li netko nepoznat probao
razgovarati s tobom?
razgovarati s tobom?
11:58
Have you ever been
approached by strangers?
approached by strangers?
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12:02
Could we have these conversations
between kids and adults?
between kids and adults?
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Možemo li ovako razgovarati
mi odrasli i djeca?
mi odrasli i djeca?
12:07
We have to force ourselves
to do it. All of us.
to do it. All of us.
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Moramo se prisiliti, svi mi.
I ovdje ima mnogo mladih koji nas slušaju.
12:10
Today, lots of kids are listening to us.
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Često kad im držimo govore u školama
12:16
Sometimes when we go
to schools to give our talks,
to schools to give our talks,
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12:19
or through social networks,
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ili na društvenim mrežama,
djeca nas pitaju ili
nam ispričaju stvari
nam ispričaju stvari
12:21
kids ask or tell us things
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koje se nisu odvažili reći
ni roditeljima ni nastavnicima,
ni roditeljima ni nastavnicima,
12:23
they haven't told
their parents or their teachers.
their parents or their teachers.
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nama, koje ni ne poznaju.
12:27
They tell us -- they don't even know us.
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Ta djeca moraju znati
12:32
Those kids need to know
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12:36
what the risks of being online are,
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koje su opasnosti
surfanja po Internetu,
surfanja po Internetu,
kako se paziti
12:40
how to take care of themselves,
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i, najbitnije od svega, da,
kao i sve ostalo
kao i sve ostalo
12:41
but also that, fundamentally,
as with almost everything else,
as with almost everything else,
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12:45
kids can learn this from any adult.
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dok su djeca, to mogu naučiti
od bilo koje odrasle osobe.
od bilo koje odrasle osobe.
12:51
Online safety needs to be
a conversation topic
a conversation topic
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Sigurno pretraživanje Interneta
mora biti tema razgovora
mora biti tema razgovora
u svakoj kući i svakoj učionici u državi.
12:55
in every house and every
classroom in the country.
classroom in the country.
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12:59
We did a survey this year that showed
that 15 percent of schools said
that 15 percent of schools said
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U anketi koju smo proveli ove godine
15% škola reklo je da su se susreli
sa slučajevima groominga
sa slučajevima groominga
13:04
they knew of cases of grooming
in their school.
in their school.
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u svojoj instituciji.
13:07
And this number is growing.
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Taj broj raste.
Tehnologija je promijenila
sve aspekte našeg života,
sve aspekte našeg života,
13:11
Technology changed
every aspect of our life,
every aspect of our life,
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13:15
including the risks we face
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uključujući i opasnosti
s kojima se suočavamo,
s kojima se suočavamo,
13:18
and how we take care of ourselves.
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i način na koji se pazimo.
13:20
Grooming shows us this
in the most painful way:
in the most painful way:
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Grooming nam je to pokazao
na najbolniji način:
na najbolniji način:
okomivši se na djecu.
13:25
by involving our kids.
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13:28
Are we going to do something
to avoid this?
to avoid this?
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Hoćemo li se uključiti da ga izbjegnemo?
Rješenje polazi od
vrlo jednostavnog poteza:
vrlo jednostavnog poteza:
13:32
The solution starts
with something as easy as:
with something as easy as:
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razgovarati o toj temi.
13:36
talking about it.
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Puno hvala.
13:37
Thank you.
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(Pljesak)
13:38
(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Sebastián Bortnik - Information security specialistSebastián Bortnik's work is focused on preventing cyber attacks.
Why you should listen
Sebastián Bortnik is an information security specialist with more than ten years of work experience in the field. He has been working on research and education on cyber attacks since the beginning of his career. He's currently head of research for Onapsis, a company dedicated to protecting ERP and business-critical applications in big companies. Previously, he led a research and technology team for an antivirus company in Latin America focused on malware analysis and cyber attacks research.
Bortnik is one of the founding members of a non-profit organization in Argentina, Argentina Cibersegura, which is focused on raising awareness within the community on how to prevent cyber attacks. As its leader, he has helped create a network with more than 200 volunteers around the country that teach how to use technologies in a safer way to thousands of kids every year.
Bortnik has written several articles and delivered many talks at different conferences around the world. He is passionate about education and believes that everybody needs to understand the impact technology has on our lives and safety.
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