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Dayananda Saraswati: The profound journey of compassion
Swami Dayananda Saraswati: Produhovljeno putovanje do suosjećanja
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Swami Dayananda Saraswati otkriva paralelne puteve osobnog razvoja i postizanja istinskog suosjećanja. Vodi nas kroz svaki korak samorealizacije, od nemoćnog djetinjstva do neustrašive brige za druge.
Dayananda Saraswati - Vedantic teacher
Swami Dayananda Saraswati is an acclaimed spiritual teacher and the founder of AIM for Seva -- a charitable trust that works to relieve poverty across India. Full bio
Swami Dayananda Saraswati is an acclaimed spiritual teacher and the founder of AIM for Seva -- a charitable trust that works to relieve poverty across India. Full bio
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A human child is born,
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Ljudsko dijete se rađa
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and for quite a long time
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i dugo je vremena
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is a consumer.
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potrošač.
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It cannot be consciously a contributor.
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Ne može svjesno pridonositi.
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It is helpless.
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Bespomoćno je.
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It doesn't know how to survive,
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Čak ne zna ni kako preživjeti,
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even though it is endowed with an instinct to survive.
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iako je obdareno nagonom za preživljavanje.
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It needs the help of mother, or a foster mother, to survive.
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Potrebna mu je pomoć majke, ili pomajke, da preživi.
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It can't afford to doubt the person who tends the child.
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Ne može si priuštiti da sumnja u osobu koja se brine za njega.
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It has to totally surrender,
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Mora se u potpunosti predati
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as one surrenders to an anesthesiologist.
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baš kao što se netko predaje anesteziologu.
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It has to totally surrender.
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Prepustiti se u potpunosti.
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That implies a lot of trust.
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To implicira mnogo povjerenja.
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That implies the trusted person
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Implicira i da osoba kojoj vjeruje
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won't violate the trust.
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neće izdati to povjerenje.
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As the child grows,
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Kako dijete raste,
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it begins to discover
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počinje otkrivati
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that the person trusted is violating the trust.
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da ta osoba iskorištava to povjerenje.
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It doesn't know even the word "violation."
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Dijete još ni ne zna za riječ iskorištavati.
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Therefore, it has to blame itself,
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Prema tome, krivi samo sebe.
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a wordless blame,
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Nijema krivnja,
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which is more difficult to really resolve --
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što ju čini još težom za razriješiti,
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the wordless self-blame.
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neizrečen osjećaj krivnje.
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As the child grows to become an adult:
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Dijete odrasta
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so far, it has been a consumer,
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i dosad je bilo potrošač,
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but the growth of a human being
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ali razvoj ljudskog bića
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lies in his or her capacity to contribute,
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leži u njegovoj mogućnosti da doprinosi,
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to be a contributor.
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da doprinosi.
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One cannot contribute unless one feels secure,
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Ne možemo pridonositi ako se ne osjećamo sigurno.
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one feels big,
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Ako se netko osjeća snažnim,
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one feels: I have enough.
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znači da osjeća: Imam dovoljno.
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To be compassionate is not a joke.
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Suosjećati, to nije šala.
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It's not that simple.
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Nije jednostavno.
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One has to discover a certain bigness in oneself.
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Pojedinac mora otkriti određenu veličinu u sebi.
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That bigness should be centered on oneself,
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Ta veličina bi trebala biti usredotočena na samog pojedinca,
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not in terms of money,
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ne u smislu novaca,
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not in terms of power you wield,
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ne u smislu posjedovanja moći,
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not in terms of any status that you can command in the society,
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niti u smislu nekog statusa koji se zauzima u društvu,
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but it should be centered on oneself.
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nego ju treba usredotočiti na samog sebe.
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The self: you are self-aware.
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Na sebe, znači, biti svjestan sebe.
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On that self, it should be centered -- a bigness, a wholeness.
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Na to sebe treba biti usredotočen, na tu potpunost, veličinu, cjelovitost,
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Otherwise, compassion is just a word and a dream.
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inače je suosjećanje samo riječ i samo san.
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You can be compassionate occasionally,
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Možemo suosjećati s vremena na vrijeme,
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more moved by empathy
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ali to je više stvar empatije
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than by compassion.
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nego suosjećanja.
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Thank God we are empathetic.
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Hvala Bogu da smo empatični.
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When somebody's in pain, we pick up the pain.
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Kada netko pati, osjećamo njegovu bol.
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In a Wimbledon final match,
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U Wimbledonu, u završnom teniskom meču,
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these two guys fight it out.
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imamo dvojicu koja se bore međusobno.
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Each one has got two games.
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Svaki igra dvije igre.
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It can be anybody's game.
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To može biti svačija igra.
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What they have sweated so far has no meaning.
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Ono što su ostvarili dosad nije važno.
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One person wins.
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Jedna osoba pobjeđuje.
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The tennis etiquette is, both the players have to come to the net
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Teniski bonton nalaže da oba igrača moraju doći do mreže
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and shake hands.
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i pružiti si ruke.
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The winner boxes the air
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Pobjednik udara rukama kroz zrak
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and kisses the ground,
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i ljubi tlo,
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throws his shirt as though somebody is waiting for it.
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baca svoju majicu kao da netko čeka da ju uhvati.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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And this guy has to come to the net.
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Taj isti igrač mora doći do mreže.
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When he comes to the net,
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Kada dođe tamo,
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you see, his whole face changes.
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vidite, cijelo lice mu se promijeni.
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It looks as though he's wishing that he didn't win.
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Izgleda kao da mu je žao što je pobijedio.
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Why? Empathy.
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Zašto? Empatija.
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That's human heart.
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Takvo je ljudsko srce.
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No human heart is denied of that empathy.
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Nijedno ljudsko srce nije lišeno te empatije.
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No religion can demolish that by indoctrination.
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Nijedna religija ju ne može uništiti svojom doktrinom.
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No culture, no nation and nationalism --
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Nijedna kultura, nacija, nacionalizam
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nothing can touch it
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ne može joj naštetiti,
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because it is empathy.
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jer je to empatija.
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And that capacity to empathize
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A ta sposobnost empatije
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is the window through which you reach out to people,
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je zapravo prozor kroz koji možemo dirnuti ljude,
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you do something that makes a difference in somebody's life --
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učiniti nešto što će promijeniti nečiji život.
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even words, even time.
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Čak ni riječi, ni vrijeme.
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Compassion is not defined in one form.
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Suosjećanje se ne može definirati jednom definicijom.
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There's no Indian compassion.
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Ne postoji indijska suosjećajnost.
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There's no American compassion.
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Ne postoji američka suosjećajnost.
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It transcends nation, the gender, the age.
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Ona nadilazi nacije, spol, dob.
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Why? Because it is there in everybody.
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Zašto? Zato što postoji u svakome.
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It's experienced by people occasionally.
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Ljudi to ponekad iskuse.
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Then this occasional compassion,
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Onda i ta povremena suosjećajnost
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we are not talking about --
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o kojoj ne pričamo.
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it will never remain occasional.
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Nikada neće biti samo povremena.
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By mandate, you cannot make a person compassionate.
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Ne možete učiniti osobu suosjećajnom nalogom.
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You can't say, "Please love me."
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Ne možete reći: „Molim vas, volite me.“
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Love is something you discover.
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Ljubav je nešto što se otkriva.
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It's not an action,
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To nije radnja,
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but in the English language, it is also an action.
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iako u engleskom jeziku ima status radnje,
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I will come to it later.
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na to ću se još vratiti.
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So one has got to discover a certain wholeness.
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Dakle, pojedinac mora otkriti određenu cjelovitost.
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I am going to cite the possibility of being whole,
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Navest ću mogućnost bivanja cjelovitim
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which is within our experience, everybody's experience.
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koja je unutar našeg iskustva, zapravo svačijeg iskustva.
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In spite of a very tragic life,
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Čak i ako netko ima tragičan život,
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one is happy in moments which are very few and far between.
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ipak je sretan u rijetkim trenucima.
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And the one who is happy,
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Onaj koji je sretan,
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even for a slapstick joke,
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čak i zbog jeftinih šala,
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accepts himself and also the scheme of things in which one finds oneself.
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prihvaća sebe i shemu situacije u kojoj se nalazi.
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That means the whole universe,
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To znači cijeli svemir,
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known things and unknown things.
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sve poznate i nepoznate stvari.
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All of them are totally accepted
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Sve to je u potpunosti prihvaćeno
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because you discover your wholeness in yourself.
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zato što otkrivamo cjelovitost u samom sebi.
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The subject -- "me" --
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Subjekt, ja,
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and the object -- the scheme of things --
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i objekt, shema svih stvari,
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fuse into oneness,
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spajaju se u jedinstvo,
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an experience nobody can say, "I am denied of,"
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i to je iskustvo za koje nitko ne može reći: „Nije mi dopušteno to iskusiti,“
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an experience common to all and sundry.
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dakle iskustvo zajedničko svima, čak i različitima.
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That experience confirms that, in spite of all your limitations --
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To iskustvo potvrđuje da, usprkos svim našim granicama,
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all your wants, desires, unfulfilled, and the credit cards
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željama, neispunjenim težnjama, kreditnim karticama,
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and layoffs
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otkazima
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and, finally, baldness --
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i, na kraju, ćelavosti,
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you can be happy.
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možemo biti sretni.
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But the extension of the logic is
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Ali važno je i reći
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that you don't need to fulfill your desire to be happy.
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da ne moramo ispuniti svoje težnje da bismo bili sretni.
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You are the very happiness, the wholeness that you want to be.
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Mi smo sama sreća, cjelovitost koju želimo postići.
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There's no choice in this:
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Tu nema izbora.
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that only confirms the reality
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To samo potvrđuje
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that the wholeness cannot be different from you,
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da ta cjelovitost ne može biti drukčija od nas,
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cannot be minus you.
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ne može opstati bez nas.
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It has got to be you.
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Mora biti isto što smo i mi sami.
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You cannot be a part of wholeness
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Ne možete biti dio cjeline,
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and still be whole.
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a biti cijeli sami.
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Your moment of happiness reveals that reality,
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Vaš trenutak sreće otkriva tu stvarnost,
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that realization, that recognition:
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tu spoznaju i saznanje.
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"Maybe I am the whole.
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Možda sam ja stvarno cjelina.
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Maybe the swami is right.
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Možda je swami u pravu.
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Maybe the swami is right." You start your new life.
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Možda je swami u pravu. Počinjete svoj novi život.
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Then everything becomes meaningful.
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I tada sve ima smisla.
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I have no more reason to blame myself.
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Nemam više razloga kriviti samog sebe.
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If one has to blame oneself, one has a million reasons plus many.
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Kad netko krivi samog sebe, onda nalazi milijun razloga za to.
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But if I say, in spite of my body being limited --
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Ako kaže da mu je tijelo ograničeno,
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if it is black it is not white, if it is white it is not black:
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ako je crno, a ne bijelo, ako je bijelo, a ne crno,
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body is limited any which way you look at it. Limited.
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tijelo je ograničeno kako god da gledate. Ograničeno.
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Your knowledge is limited, health is limited,
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Znanje je ograničeno, zdravlje je ograničeno,
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and power is therefore limited,
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dakle i moć je ograničena,
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and the cheerfulness is going to be limited.
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a onda će i veselje biti ograničeno.
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Compassion is going to be limited.
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Suosjećajnost će biti ograničena.
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Everything is going to be limitless.
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Sve će biti bez granica.
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You cannot command compassion
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Ne možete naređivati suosjećajnosti
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unless you become limitless, and nobody can become limitless,
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ako ne postanete bezgranični, a nitko ne može postati bezgraničan,
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either you are or you are not. Period.
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bez obzira na sve. Točka.
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And there is no way of your being not limitless too.
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Nema šanse da postanete bezgranični.
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Your own experience reveals, in spite of all limitations, you are the whole.
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Vaše iskustvo otkriva da ste, usprkos svim granicama, jedna cjelina.
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And the wholeness is the reality of you
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A cjelina je vaše stvarno stanje
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when you relate to the world.
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kad se odnosite prema svijetu.
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It is love first.
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To je najprije ljubav.
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When you relate to the world,
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Kad se odnosite prema svijetu,
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the dynamic manifestation of the wholeness
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dinamična manifestacija vaše cjeline je,
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is, what we say, love.
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zapravo, ljubav.
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And itself becomes compassion
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To postaje suosjećanje
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if the object that you relate to evokes that emotion.
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ako objekt prema kojem se odnosite probudi tu emociju.
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Then that again transforms into giving, into sharing.
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A to se opet pretvori u davanje, u dijeljenje.
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You express yourself because you have compassion.
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Izražavate se jer ste suosjećajni.
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To discover compassion, you need to be compassionate.
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Da biste otkrili suosjećanje, morate biti suosjećajni.
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To discover the capacity to give and share,
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Da biste otkrili mogućnost davanja i dijeljenja,
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you need to be giving and sharing.
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morate davati i dijeliti.
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There is no shortcut: it is like swimming by swimming.
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Nema prečice. To je kao da plivate plivanjem.
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You learn swimming by swimming.
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Plivanje ćete naučiti samo plivanjem.
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You cannot learn swimming on a foam mattress and enter into water.
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Ne možete naučiti plivati na vodenom krevetu i onda ući u vodu.
14:43
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:45
You learn swimming by swimming. You learn cycling by cycling.
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Učite plivati tako da plivate. Učite voziti bicikl tako da ga vozite.
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You learn cooking by cooking,
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Da biste naučili kuhati, morate kuhati
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having some sympathetic people around you
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i imate drage ljude oko sebe
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to eat what you cook.
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koji će jesti ono što skuhate.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
15:04
And, therefore, what I say,
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Dakle, ono što pokušavam reći
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you have to fake it and make it.
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je da se morate pretvarati dok ne uspijete.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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You need to.
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Morate.
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My predecessor meant that.
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Moj prethodnik je to isto mislio.
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You have to act it out.
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Morate to odglumiti.
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You have to act compassionately.
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Morate se ponašati suosjećajno.
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There is no verb for compassion,
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U engleskom jeziku ne postoji glagol suosjećati,
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but you have an adverb for compassion.
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ali postoji prilog.
15:47
That's interesting to me.
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Meni je to zanimljivo.
15:51
You act compassionately.
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Ponašate se suosjećajno.
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But then, how to act compassionately if you don't have compassion?
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Ali kako se ponašati suosjećajno ako niste suosjećajni?
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That is where you fake.
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Tada morate glumiti.
16:04
You fake it and make it. This is the mantra of the United States of America.
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Glumiti dok ne uspijete.To je mantra Sjedinjenih Američkih Država.
16:08
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
16:13
You fake it and make it.
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Pretvarate se dok ne uspijete.
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You act compassionately as though you have compassion:
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Ponašate se suosjećajno kao da i jeste takvi,
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grind your teeth,
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stisnete zube,
16:23
take all the support system.
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skupite svu hrabrost,
16:25
If you know how to pray, pray.
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ako znate moliti, onda molite.
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Ask for compassion.
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Zatražite suosjećajnost.
16:32
Let me act compassionately.
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Dajte mi da budem suosjećajan.
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Do it.
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Napravite to.
16:37
You'll discover compassion
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Otkrit ćete suosjećajnost,
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and also slowly a relative compassion,
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bit će to polako nekakva relativna suosjećajnost,
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and slowly, perhaps if you get the right teaching,
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i onda poslije polako, možda ako dobijete dobru obuku,
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you'll discover compassion is a dynamic manifestation
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shvatit ćete da je suosjećajnost dinamična manifestacija
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of the reality of yourself, which is oneness, wholeness,
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vašeg pravog stanja, a to je jedinstvo, cjelovitost,
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and that's what you are.
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ono što zaista jeste.
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With these words, thank you very much.
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S ovim riječima zahvaljujem se svima.
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Dayananda Saraswati - Vedantic teacherSwami Dayananda Saraswati is an acclaimed spiritual teacher and the founder of AIM for Seva -- a charitable trust that works to relieve poverty across India.
Why you should listen
Swami Dayananda Saraswati has been teaching the traditional wisdom of Vedanta for more than four decades, in India and around the world. His success as a teacher is evident in the successes of his students -- over 100 are now swamis themselves, and highly respected as scholars and teachers. Within the Hindu community, he has worked to create harmony, founding the Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha, where heads of different sects can come together learn from each other. In the larger religious community, he has also made huge strides towards cooperation, convening the first World Congress for the Preservation of Religious Diversity.
However, Swami Saraswati’s work is not limited to the religious community. He is the founder and an active executive member of the All India Movement (AIM) for Seva. Since 2000, AIM has been bringing medical assistance, education, food and infrastructure to people living in the most remote areas of India. Growing up in a small, rural village himself, the Swami understood the particular challenges to accessing aid faced by those outside of the cities. Today, AIM for Seva estimates that they have been able to help over two million people in need.
Dayananda Saraswati | Speaker | TED.com