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Dayananda Saraswati: The profound journey of compassion
Svami Dajananda Sarasvati: Put dubokog saosećanja
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Svami Dajananda Sarasvati otkriva paralelu izmedju razvojnog puta jedne osobe i puta do istinskog saosećanja sa drugima. On nas vodi kroz sve faze razvoja ličnosti, od bespomoćnosti ranog detinjstva, do neustrašivog osećanja brige za druge.
Dayananda Saraswati - Vedantic teacher
Swami Dayananda Saraswati is an acclaimed spiritual teacher and the founder of AIM for Seva -- a charitable trust that works to relieve poverty across India. Full bio
Swami Dayananda Saraswati is an acclaimed spiritual teacher and the founder of AIM for Seva -- a charitable trust that works to relieve poverty across India. Full bio
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A human child is born,
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Dete čoveka se rađa
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and for quite a long time
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i dugo vremena ostaje
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is a consumer.
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potrošač.
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It cannot be consciously a contributor.
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Ono ne može svesno doprinositi.
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It is helpless.
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Bespomoćno je.
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It doesn't know how to survive,
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Ono čak ne zna ni kako da preživi,
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even though it is endowed with an instinct to survive.
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iako je obdareno instinktom preživljavanja.
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It needs the help of mother, or a foster mother, to survive.
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Da bi opstalo, potrebna mu je pomoć majke ili starateljice.
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It can't afford to doubt the person who tends the child.
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Dete ne sme sumnjati u osobu koja se stara o njemu.
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It has to totally surrender,
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Ono se mora u potpunosti predati.
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as one surrenders to an anesthesiologist.
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Kao što se čovek preda anesteziologu.
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It has to totally surrender.
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Mora se potpuno predati.
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That implies a lot of trust.
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To podrazumeva veliko poverenje.
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That implies the trusted person
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To podrazumeva da osoba kojoj veruje
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won't violate the trust.
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neće izigrati to poverenje.
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As the child grows,
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Kako dete raste,
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it begins to discover
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ono polako shvata
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that the person trusted is violating the trust.
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da osoba kojoj veruje, to poverenje zloupotrebljava.
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It doesn't know even the word "violation."
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Dete čak ni ne zna sta znači reč "zloupotrebiti".
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Therefore, it has to blame itself,
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I zato, ono mora da okrivi samo sebe.
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a wordless blame,
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To je nema osuda,
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which is more difficult to really resolve --
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koju je teže uistinski razreštiti.
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the wordless self-blame.
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Nema osuda samoga sebe.
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As the child grows to become an adult:
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Kako dete raste,
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so far, it has been a consumer,
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do tada je bilo potrošač,
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but the growth of a human being
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ali rast ljudskog bića
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lies in his or her capacity to contribute,
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podrazumeva i njegovu ili njenu sposobnost da doprinosi društvu,
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to be a contributor.
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da aktivno doprinosi.
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One cannot contribute unless one feels secure,
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Osoba može doprinositi samo ako se oseća sigurnom,
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one feels big,
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ako se oseća velikom,
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one feels: I have enough.
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ako oseća: "Ja imam dovoljno".
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To be compassionate is not a joke.
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Biti saosećajan nije šala.
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It's not that simple.
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To nije tako jednostavno.
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One has to discover a certain bigness in oneself.
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Čovek prvo mora da otkrije nešto veliko u sebi.
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That bigness should be centered on oneself,
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To nešto bi trebalo da bude lična veličina,
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not in terms of money,
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ne novac,
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not in terms of power you wield,
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niti moć,
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not in terms of any status that you can command in the society,
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nikakav status koji imate u društvu,
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but it should be centered on oneself.
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to mora biti nešto lično.
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The self: you are self-aware.
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Lično, čega ste svesni.
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On that self, it should be centered -- a bigness, a wholeness.
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Na tom ličnom bi trebalo da se zasniva vaša veličina i celovitost.
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Otherwise, compassion is just a word and a dream.
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U suprotnom, saosećanje ostaje samo reč i san.
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You can be compassionate occasionally,
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Čovek može da saoseća ponekad
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more moved by empathy
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više vođen empatijom
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than by compassion.
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nego saosećanjem.
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Thank God we are empathetic.
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Hvala bogu da imamo sposobnost empatije.
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When somebody's in pain, we pick up the pain.
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Kad neko ima bolove, mi ih primetimo.
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In a Wimbledon final match,
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Na finalu Vimbldona,
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these two guys fight it out.
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dva tenisera se bore za pobedu.
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Each one has got two games.
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Obojica imaju po dva meča.
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It can be anybody's game.
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Pobednik može biti bilo koji od njih.
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What they have sweated so far has no meaning.
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Njihovi dotadašnji napori ne znače ništa.
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One person wins.
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Samo je jedan pobednik.
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The tennis etiquette is, both the players have to come to the net
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Teniski sportski duh nalaže da obojica priđu mreži
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and shake hands.
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i rukuju se.
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The winner boxes the air
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Pobednik slavi "boksujući" vazduh,
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and kisses the ground,
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ljubeći teren,
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throws his shirt as though somebody is waiting for it.
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bacajući svoju majicu u publiku, kao da neko baš čeka na nju.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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And this guy has to come to the net.
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A onda mora da pridje mreži.
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When he comes to the net,
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Kad priđe,
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you see, his whole face changes.
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vidite kako mu se izraz lica promeni.
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It looks as though he's wishing that he didn't win.
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Izgleda kao da želi da nije pobedio.
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Why? Empathy.
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Zašto? Zbog osećanja empatije.
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That's human heart.
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Takvo je ljudsko srce.
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No human heart is denied of that empathy.
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Nijednom čoveku nije uskraćena sposobnost empatije.
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No religion can demolish that by indoctrination.
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Nema religije koja ga može uništiti indoktrinacijom.
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No culture, no nation and nationalism --
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Nema te kulture, nacije ili nacionalizma
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nothing can touch it
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koji mogu uticati na njega.
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because it is empathy.
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Zato što je to osećanje - empatija.
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And that capacity to empathize
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A sposobnost osećanja empatije
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is the window through which you reach out to people,
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je prozor kroz koji dosežemo ka drugim ljudima,
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you do something that makes a difference in somebody's life --
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to je put kojim utičemo na nečiji život.
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even words, even time.
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To možemo učiniti čak i rečima, čak i svojim vremenom.
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Compassion is not defined in one form.
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Nema jedne definicije saosećanja.
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There's no Indian compassion.
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Ne postoji indijsko saosećanje.
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There's no American compassion.
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Ne postoji američko saosećanje.
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It transcends nation, the gender, the age.
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Saosećanje prevazlazi nacionalne, polne i starosne razlike.
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Why? Because it is there in everybody.
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Zasto? Zato što boravi u svima.
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It's experienced by people occasionally.
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Ljudi ga povremeno osećaju.
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Then this occasional compassion,
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Onda o tom povremenom saosećanju
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we are not talking about --
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ne govorimo.
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it will never remain occasional.
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Ono neće ostati povremeno zauvek.
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By mandate, you cannot make a person compassionate.
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Čak i da pokušate, ne možete učiniti nekoga saosećajnim.
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You can't say, "Please love me."
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Ne možete reći: "Molim te, voli me."
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Love is something you discover.
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Ljubav je nešto što se spoznaje.
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It's not an action,
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To nije radnja,
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but in the English language, it is also an action.
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ali, u engleskom jeziku jeste radnja.
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I will come to it later.
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Vratiću se na to kasnije.
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So one has got to discover a certain wholeness.
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Dakle, čovek mora da u sebi otkrije neku celovitost.
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I am going to cite the possibility of being whole,
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Daću vam primer celovitosti
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which is within our experience, everybody's experience.
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koga svako može prepoznati iz ličnog iskustva.
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In spite of a very tragic life,
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Uprkos tragičnom životu,
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one is happy in moments which are very few and far between.
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čovek je srećan tokom nekolicine udaljenih trenutaka.
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And the one who is happy,
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A srećan čovek,
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even for a slapstick joke,
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čak i u šali,
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accepts himself and also the scheme of things in which one finds oneself.
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prihvata sebe i situaciju u kojoj se nalazi.
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That means the whole universe,
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Znači, prihvata čitav kosmos,
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known things and unknown things.
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sve zanano i neznano.
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All of them are totally accepted
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Čovek sve to prihvata
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because you discover your wholeness in yourself.
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jer je spoznao svoju unutrašnju celovitost.
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The subject -- "me" --
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Subjekat - ja,
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and the object -- the scheme of things --
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i objekat - situacija,
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fuse into oneness,
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postaju jedno.
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an experience nobody can say, "I am denied of,"
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To je iskustvo za koje niko ne može reći da ga nije doživeo,
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an experience common to all and sundry.
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iskustvo svojstveno svakome od nas.
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That experience confirms that, in spite of all your limitations --
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To iskustvo potvrđuje da, uprkos svim svojim ograničenjima,
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all your wants, desires, unfulfilled, and the credit cards
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svim svojim potrebama neispunjenim željama i kreditnim karticama,
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and layoffs
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uprkos otkazima,
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and, finally, baldness --
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i, na kraju krajeva, ćelavosti,
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you can be happy.
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vi možete biti srećni.
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But the extension of the logic is
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Međutim, vodeći se ovom logikom,
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that you don't need to fulfill your desire to be happy.
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vi ne morate ispuniti svoje želje da biste postali srećni.
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You are the very happiness, the wholeness that you want to be.
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Vi sami ste upravo ta sreća, ta celovitost, kojoj stremite.
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There's no choice in this:
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Tu nema mogućnosti izbora.
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that only confirms the reality
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Ovo samo potvrđuje činjenicu
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that the wholeness cannot be different from you,
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da ta celovitost ne može biti različita od vas,
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cannot be minus you.
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ne možete od nje oduzeti sebe.
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It has got to be you.
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Ona mora biti vi.
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You cannot be a part of wholeness
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Ne možete biti deo celine,
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and still be whole.
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a ostati celi.
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Your moment of happiness reveals that reality,
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Vas trenutak sreće otkriva tu realnost,
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that realization, that recognition:
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tu spoznaju, to saznanje.
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"Maybe I am the whole.
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Možda sam ja ta celina.
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Maybe the swami is right.
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Možda je Svami u pravu.
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Maybe the swami is right." You start your new life.
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Možda je Svami u pravu. Započnete novi čivot.
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Then everything becomes meaningful.
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I sve dobije smisao.
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I have no more reason to blame myself.
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Nemam više razloga da okrivljujem sebe.
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If one has to blame oneself, one has a million reasons plus many.
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Ako neko hoće da krivi sebe, postoji bezbroj razloga za to.
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But if I say, in spite of my body being limited --
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Ali ako kažem da, uprkos ograničenosti moga tela,
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if it is black it is not white, if it is white it is not black:
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ako je nešto crno, nije belo. I ako je belo, nije crno.
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body is limited any which way you look at it. Limited.
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Kakogod uzmete, telo je ograničeno. Ograničeno.
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Your knowledge is limited, health is limited,
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Vaše znanje je ograničeno, zdravlje je ograničeno,
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and power is therefore limited,
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a time je i moć ograničena,
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and the cheerfulness is going to be limited.
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pa samim tim će i sreća biti ograničena.
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Compassion is going to be limited.
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Saosećanje će biti ograničeno.
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Everything is going to be limitless.
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Granice svega će nestati.
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You cannot command compassion
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Ne možete zahtevati saosećanje
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unless you become limitless, and nobody can become limitless,
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ukoliko i sami niste neograničeni. A niko nije neograničen,
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either you are or you are not. Period.
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ni vi, ni ja. I tačka.
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And there is no way of your being not limitless too.
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A nema šanse da vi niste neograničenosti.
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Your own experience reveals, in spite of all limitations, you are the whole.
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Vaše iskustvo svedoči da ste, uprkos svim ograničenjima, celoviti.
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And the wholeness is the reality of you
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Ta celovitost je vaša realnost
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when you relate to the world.
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kojom se odnosite prema spoljašnjem svetu.
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It is love first.
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Prvo, to je ljubav.
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When you relate to the world,
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Kada se odnosite prema spoljašnjem svetu,
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the dynamic manifestation of the wholeness
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dinamična reprezentacija te celovitosti
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is, what we say, love.
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je ono što nazivamo ljubavlju.
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And itself becomes compassion
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A ona se pretvara u saosećanje
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if the object that you relate to evokes that emotion.
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kada objekat ka kome je usmerena izaziva to osećanje u vama.
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Then that again transforms into giving, into sharing.
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Potom se pretvara u davanje i deljenje sa drugima.
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You express yourself because you have compassion.
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Čovek se izražava zato što saoseća.
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To discover compassion, you need to be compassionate.
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Da biste prepoznali saosećanje, morate bii saosećajni.
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To discover the capacity to give and share,
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Da biste prepoznali sposobnost davanja i deljenja sa drugima,
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you need to be giving and sharing.
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morate davati i deliti.
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There is no shortcut: it is like swimming by swimming.
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Tu nema prečica. To je kao plivanje plivanjem.
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You learn swimming by swimming.
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Plivanje se uči plivanjem.
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You cannot learn swimming on a foam mattress and enter into water.
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Ne možete naučiti da plivate na dušeku od kreveta, a onda ući u vodu.
14:43
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
14:45
You learn swimming by swimming. You learn cycling by cycling.
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Plivanje se uči plivanjem. Vožnja bicikla se uči vožnjom.
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You learn cooking by cooking,
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Kuvanje se uči kuvanjem,
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having some sympathetic people around you
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i prisustvom saosećajnih ljudi koji
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to eat what you cook.
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će jesti to što ste skuvali.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
15:04
And, therefore, what I say,
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I, zato vam kazem,
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you have to fake it and make it.
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morate da se pretvarate da biste uspeli.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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You need to.
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Morate.
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My predecessor meant that.
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Moj prethodnik je mislio na to.
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You have to act it out.
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Morate se ponašati na taj način.
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You have to act compassionately.
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Morate se ponašati saosećajno.
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There is no verb for compassion,
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U engleskom ne postoji glagol "saosećati",
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but you have an adverb for compassion.
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ali postoji prilog "saosećajno".
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That's interesting to me.
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Meni je to zanimljivo.
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You act compassionately.
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Čovek se ponaša saosećajno.
15:57
But then, how to act compassionately if you don't have compassion?
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Ali, kako da se ponašate saosećajno ako nemate saosećanja?
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That is where you fake.
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E, tu se pretvarate.
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You fake it and make it. This is the mantra of the United States of America.
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Pretvarate se i uspećete. To je mantra Sjedinjenih Američkih Država.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
16:13
You fake it and make it.
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Pretvarajte se i uspećete.
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You act compassionately as though you have compassion:
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Ponašajte se saosećajno kao da imate saosećanja,
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grind your teeth,
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škrgućite zubima,
16:23
take all the support system.
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iskoristite sve vrste pomoći,
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If you know how to pray, pray.
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ako znate da se molite, molite se.
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Ask for compassion.
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Molite za saosećanje.
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Let me act compassionately.
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Odlučite da se ponašate saosećajno.
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Do it.
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Uradite tako.
16:37
You'll discover compassion
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Otkrićete saosećanje,
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and also slowly a relative compassion,
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a onda vremenom i relativno saosećanje,
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and slowly, perhaps if you get the right teaching,
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i polako ćete, možda uz prave smernice,
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you'll discover compassion is a dynamic manifestation
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otkriti da je saosećanje dinamična manifestacija
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of the reality of yourself, which is oneness, wholeness,
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vas samih, koji ste i sami jedinstvena celina,
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and that's what you are.
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i to je ono što jeste.
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With these words, thank you very much.
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Završiću ovim rečima. Hvala vam najlepše.
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Dayananda Saraswati - Vedantic teacherSwami Dayananda Saraswati is an acclaimed spiritual teacher and the founder of AIM for Seva -- a charitable trust that works to relieve poverty across India.
Why you should listen
Swami Dayananda Saraswati has been teaching the traditional wisdom of Vedanta for more than four decades, in India and around the world. His success as a teacher is evident in the successes of his students -- over 100 are now swamis themselves, and highly respected as scholars and teachers. Within the Hindu community, he has worked to create harmony, founding the Hindu Dharma Acharya Sabha, where heads of different sects can come together learn from each other. In the larger religious community, he has also made huge strides towards cooperation, convening the first World Congress for the Preservation of Religious Diversity.
However, Swami Saraswati’s work is not limited to the religious community. He is the founder and an active executive member of the All India Movement (AIM) for Seva. Since 2000, AIM has been bringing medical assistance, education, food and infrastructure to people living in the most remote areas of India. Growing up in a small, rural village himself, the Swami understood the particular challenges to accessing aid faced by those outside of the cities. Today, AIM for Seva estimates that they have been able to help over two million people in need.
Dayananda Saraswati | Speaker | TED.com