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Alex Kipman: A futuristic vision of the age of holograms
Aleks Kipman (Alex Kipman): Futuristička vizija doba holograma
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Istražite spekulativni digitalni svet bez ekrana u ovoj nestvarnoj demonstraciji, mešavini bliske stvarnosti i mogućnosti daleke budućnosti. Dok nosi Holo Lens virtualne naočare, Aleks Kipman demonstrira svoju viziju za dovođenje 3D holograma u stvarni svet, poboljšavajući našu percepciju tako da možemo dotaći i osetiti digitalne sadržaje. Kao dodatak, tu je deo sa pitanjima i odgovorima, sa TED-ovom Helen Valters.
Alex Kipman - Inventor
With his latest invention, HoloLens, Kinect creator Alex Kipman has opened a virtual holographic universe for users to explore -- and he may have changed the face of computing forever. Full bio
With his latest invention, HoloLens, Kinect creator Alex Kipman has opened a virtual holographic universe for users to explore -- and he may have changed the face of computing forever. Full bio
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Thousands of years from now,
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Za hiljade godina,
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we'll look back at the first
century of computing
century of computing
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gledaćemo unazad
ka prvom veku računarstva,
ka prvom veku računarstva,
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as a fascinating but very peculiar time --
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kao fascinantnom ali i čudnom vremenu,
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the only time in history where humans
were reduced to live in 2D space,
were reduced to live in 2D space,
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jedinom vremenu u istoriji kada su ljudi
morali da žive u 2D prostoru,
morali da žive u 2D prostoru,
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interacting with technology
as if we were machines;
as if we were machines;
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odnoseći se prema tehnologiji
kao prema mašinama.
kao prema mašinama.
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a singular, 100-year period
in the vastness of time
in the vastness of time
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Jedinstvenih sto godina
u beskonačnosti vremena,
u beskonačnosti vremena,
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where humans communicated,
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kada su ljudi komunicirali, zabavljali se
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were entertained and managed their lives
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i upravljali svojim životima iza ekrana.
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from behind a screen.
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Today, we spend most of our time
tapping and looking at screens.
tapping and looking at screens.
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Danas, većinu vremena provodimo
kuckajući i gledajući u ekran.
kuckajući i gledajući u ekran.
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What happened to interacting
with each other?
with each other?
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Šta se desilo sa međusobnim interakcijama?
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I don't know about you, but I feel limited
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Ne znam za vas, ali ja se osećam skučeno
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inside this 2D world
of monitors and pixels.
of monitors and pixels.
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unutar ovog dvodimenzionalnog sveta
monitora i piksela.
monitora i piksela.
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And it is this very limitation
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Upravo ta ograničenost
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and my desire to connect with people
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i moja želja za povezivanjem sa ljudima
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that inspires me as a creator.
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me inspirišu kao stvaraoca.
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Put simply: I want
to create a new reality,
to create a new reality,
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Jednostavno rečeno,
hoću da kreiram novu realnost,
hoću da kreiram novu realnost,
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a reality where technology brings
us infinitely closer to each other,
us infinitely closer to each other,
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realnost gde nas tehnologija
beskrajno međusobno zbližava;
beskrajno međusobno zbližava;
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a reality where people, not devices,
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realnost gde su ljudi, a ne uređaji,
središte svega.
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are the center of everything.
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I dream of a reality where technology
senses what we see, touch and feel;
senses what we see, touch and feel;
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Sanjam o realnosti gde tehnologija oseća
šta mi vidimo, dodirujemo i osećamo;
šta mi vidimo, dodirujemo i osećamo;
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a reality where technology
no longer gets in our way,
no longer gets in our way,
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o realnosti u kojoj nas
tehnologija više ne zaustavlja,
tehnologija više ne zaustavlja,
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but instead embraces who we are.
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već prihvata onakvim kakvi jesmo.
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I dream of technology
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Sanjam o tehnologiji
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on a human path.
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na ljudskoj putanji.
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We have all experienced technology
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Svi smo iskusili tehnologiju
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that enables people
to act more like people,
to act more like people,
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koja omogućava ljudima
da se više ponašaju poput ljudi,
da se više ponašaju poput ljudi,
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products that enable natural interactions,
voice controls or biometrics.
voice controls or biometrics.
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koja omogućava prirodnu interakciju,
kontrolu glasa ili biometriju.
kontrolu glasa ili biometriju.
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This is the next step in the evolution.
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Ovo je sledeći korak u evoluciji.
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This is Microsoft HoloLens,
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Ovo je Majkrosoftov Holo Lens,
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the first fully untethered
holographic computer.
holographic computer.
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prvi potpuno bežični
holografski kompjuter.
holografski kompjuter.
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Devices like this will bring
3D holographic content
3D holographic content
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Ovakvi uređaji će doneti
trodimenzionalne holografske sadržaje
trodimenzionalne holografske sadržaje
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right into our world,
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direktno u naš svet,
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enhancing the way we experience life
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pojačavajući doživljavanje života
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beyond our ordinary range of perceptions.
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izvan uobičajene percepcije.
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Now, I'm not thinking
about a distant future.
about a distant future.
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Ne pričam sada o dalekoj budućnosti.
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I'm talking about today.
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Pričam o današnjici.
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We are already seeing
car companies like Volvo
car companies like Volvo
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Već vidimo da auto-kompanije poput Volva
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designing cars differently with HoloLens;
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dizajniraju automobile
drugačije sa Holo Lensom.
drugačije sa Holo Lensom.
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universities like Case Western
redefining the way medical students learn;
redefining the way medical students learn;
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Univerziteti poput Kejs Vesterna
menjaju način studiranja medicine,
menjaju način studiranja medicine,
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and my personal favorite,
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i moj favorit:
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NASA is using HoloLens
to let scientists explore planets
to let scientists explore planets
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NASA koristi Holo Lens
za naučno proučavanje planeta,
za naučno proučavanje planeta,
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holographically.
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preko holograma.
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Now, this is important.
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Ovo je sad bitno.
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By bringing holograms into our world,
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Uvodeći holograme u naš svet,
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I'm not just talking about a new device
or a better computer.
or a better computer.
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ne govorim samo o novom uređaju
ili boljem kompjuteru.
ili boljem kompjuteru.
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I'm talking about freeing ourselves
from the 2D confines
from the 2D confines
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Govorim o oslobađanju
od dvodimenzionalne ograničenosti
od dvodimenzionalne ograničenosti
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of traditional computing.
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tradicionalnog računarstva.
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Put it this way:
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Posmatrajte ovako:
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temporally adjusted, we're like
cave people in computer terms.
cave people in computer terms.
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trenutno smo poput pećinskih ljudi
u smislu računarstva.
u smislu računarstva.
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We've barely discovered charcoal
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Samo što smo otkrili ugalj
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and started drawing
the first stick figures in our cave.
the first stick figures in our cave.
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i počeli crtati čovečuljke po pećinama.
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Now, this is the perspective
I apply to my work every single day.
I apply to my work every single day.
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Ovakvo gledište
svakodnevno koristim na poslu.
svakodnevno koristim na poslu.
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And now for the next few minutes,
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Sada vas, u narednim minutama,
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I invite all of you to apply
the same perspective
the same perspective
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pozivam da isto primenite,
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to the journey ahead of us.
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na putovanju pred nama.
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Now, as I put this HoloLens on,
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Dok stavljam Holo Lens,
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let me explain the setup a little bit.
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pokušaću malo objasniti postavku.
Ovo je verovatno
najrizičnija demonstracija
najrizičnija demonstracija
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It's probably the most risky demo
we have ever done on any stage
we have ever done on any stage
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koju smo ikada izveli
na bilo kojoj pozornici sa Holo Lensom,
na bilo kojoj pozornici sa Holo Lensom,
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with HoloLens,
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and I can't think of a better place
to do it than here at TED.
to do it than here at TED.
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a ne mogu naći bolje mesto za to od TED-a.
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Momentarily, I am going
to be seeing holograms
to be seeing holograms
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Uskoro ću gledati holograme
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right on this stage,
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baš na ovoj pozornici,
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just as clearly as I can see all of you.
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podjednako jasno kao što vidim sve vas.
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Now at the same time,
we have also this special camera
we have also this special camera
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U isto vreme imamo posebnu kameru,
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that just walked in onstage
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koja se upravo pojavila na sceni
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so that all of you can share
in this experience with me
in this experience with me
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kako biste svi učestvovali
u ovom iskustvu sa mnom
u ovom iskustvu sa mnom
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up on all the monitors.
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preko svih ekrana.
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So let's start our journey.
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Započnimo putovanje.
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And what better place
to begin our journey,
to begin our journey,
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Najbolje mesto za započinjanje putovanja
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than in the computer cave of 2D.
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je kompjuterska pećina u 2D.
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Let's explore the world
all around us with this new lens,
all around us with this new lens,
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Istražimo svet oko nas sa novim sočivima,
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and understand the computer world
from a brand new perspective.
from a brand new perspective.
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da razumemo svet računara
iz potpuno nove perspektive.
iz potpuno nove perspektive.
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The computer universe
is both marvelous and primitive.
is both marvelous and primitive.
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Računarski univerzum
je ujedno izuzetan i primitivan.
je ujedno izuzetan i primitivan.
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It's a universe based on causality.
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To je univerzum zasnovan na uzročnosti.
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As developers, we dream
the different causes
the different causes
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Kao programeri,
maštamo o različitim uzrocima,
maštamo o različitim uzrocima,
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and then we program the different effects.
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i onda programiramo različite efekte.
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Double click on an icon, that's a cause.
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Dupli klik na ikonu, to je uzrok.
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Open an application, that's an effect.
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Otvoriti aplikaciju je efekat.
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Now when we compare this
to our physical universe,
to our physical universe,
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Uporedimo li ovo
sa našim fizičkim univerzumom,
sa našim fizičkim univerzumom,
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it is overly constraining,
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vrlo je ograničavajuće,
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because our universe is not digital.
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budući da naš univerzum nije digitalan.
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Our universe is analog.
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Naš svet je analogan.
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Our universe doesn't think
in terms of zero or one,
in terms of zero or one,
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Naš svet ne razmišlja
kroz nulu i jedinicu,
kroz nulu i jedinicu,
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true or false, or black or white.
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tačnost ili netačnost, crno ili belo.
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We exist in a world
governed by quantum physics,
governed by quantum physics,
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Postojimo u svetu
kojim upravlja kvantna fizika,
kojim upravlja kvantna fizika,
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a universe of zero and one
both at the same time,
both at the same time,
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u univerzumu u kojem nula i jedinica
postoje u isto vreme,
postoje u isto vreme,
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a reality based on infinite
probabilities and shades of gray.
probabilities and shades of gray.
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u realnosti baziranoj
na beskonačnim verovatnoćama
na beskonačnim verovatnoćama
i nijansama sivog.
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You can see how these two worlds collide.
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Možete videti
kako se ta dva sveta sudaraju.
kako se ta dva sveta sudaraju.
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So why are screens so pervasive
in our analog life?
in our analog life?
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Zašto onda ekrani toliko prožimaju
naš analogni život?
naš analogni život?
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We see screens from the moment we wake up,
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Gledamo u ekrane od samog buđenja,
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to the moment we fall asleep.
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do trenutka kada zaspimo.
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Why?
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Zašto?
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I think it's because computers
give us superpowers.
give us superpowers.
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Mislim da je to zbog toga
što nam kompjuteri daju supermoći.
što nam kompjuteri daju supermoći.
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Within the digital universe,
we have the power to displace space
we have the power to displace space
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Unutar digitalnog univerzuma
imamo moć da izmestimo prostor
imamo moć da izmestimo prostor
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and the power to displace time.
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i da izmestimo vreme.
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It doesn't matter if you're using
technology for entertainment,
technology for entertainment,
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Nebitno je da li koristite
tehnologiju za zabavu,
tehnologiju za zabavu,
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productivity or communication.
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produktivnost ili komunikaciju.
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Think of it this way:
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Posmatrajte to ovako:
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let's all go home tonight
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hajdemo večeras svi kući
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and watch our favorite show on television.
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i gledajmo omiljenu seriju na televiziji.
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This is theater -- time
and space displaced.
and space displaced.
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To je pozorište -
vreme i mesto su izmešteni.
vreme i mesto su izmešteni.
06:02
As soon as I'm done with this TED Talk,
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Čim završim sa ovim TED govorom,
odmah ću pozvati
svoju dragu porodicu u Sijetlu.
svoju dragu porodicu u Sijetlu.
06:04
I'm going to immediately call
my lovely family in Seattle.
my lovely family in Seattle.
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06:11
That's displacement of space.
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To je izmeštanje prostora.
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Now, these are such great superpowers
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To su zaista velike supermoći
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that we put up with
the two-dimensional limitations
the two-dimensional limitations
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sa kojima se nosimo u 2D ograničenjima
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of our current digital world.
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našeg trenutnog digitalnog sveta.
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But what if we didn't have to?
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Međutim, šta ako ne bismo morali?
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What if we could have
these same digital powers
these same digital powers
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Šta ako bismo imali
ove iste digitalne moći
ove iste digitalne moći
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in our world?
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u našem svetu?
06:29
You can already see glimmers of this,
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Već možete videti naznake ovoga,
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but I believe our children's children
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ali verujem da će deca naše dece
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will grow up in a world
devoid of 2D technology.
devoid of 2D technology.
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odrastati u svetu lišenom 2D tehnologije.
06:40
It's remarkable to dream of this world,
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Sjajno je sanjati o ovakvom svetu,
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a world where technology
truly understands us --
truly understands us --
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svetu gde nas tehnologija zaista razume -
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where we live, work and communicate --
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gde živimo, radimo, komuniciramo,
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with tools that enhance
the human experience,
the human experience,
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sa alatima koji pojačavaju
ljudske doživljaje,
ljudske doživljaje,
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not machines that limit our humanity.
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a ne sa mašinama
koje ograničavaju ljudskost.
koje ograničavaju ljudskost.
06:58
So how do we get there?
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Kako da stignemo tamo?
07:01
For me, the answer required
looking at the problem
looking at the problem
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Za mene, odgovor zahteva
sagledavanje problema
sagledavanje problema
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from a different perspective.
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iz drugačije perspektive.
07:08
It required sensing the world
from the perspective of a machine.
from the perspective of a machine.
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Zahteva poimanje sveta
iz perspektive mašine.
iz perspektive mašine.
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If you're a machine trying
to sense our world,
to sense our world,
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Ako ste mašina koja pokušava
da oseti naš svet,
da oseti naš svet,
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how would you actually
break the problem down?
break the problem down?
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kako biste razložili problem?
07:21
You'd probably try to classify things
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Verovatno biste klasifikovali stvari
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as a human,
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kao ljude,
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an environment
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okolinu,
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or an object.
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ili objekte.
07:31
But how would that machine
then interact with reality?
then interact with reality?
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Međutim, kako bi se onda odvijala
interakcija mašine sa realnošću?
interakcija mašine sa realnošću?
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And I can think of three ways.
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Padaju mi na pamet tri načina.
07:38
First, as a machine,
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Prvi, kao uređaj
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I would observe or I would input reality.
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bih ili posmatrao
ili unosio podatke iz realnosti.
ili unosio podatke iz realnosti.
Prepoznavanje govora
i biometrijska provera identiteta
i biometrijska provera identiteta
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Speech recognition
and biometric authentication
and biometric authentication
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are great examples of a machine
interacting with humans
interacting with humans
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su odličan primer
interakcije mašine sa ljudima,
interakcije mašine sa ljudima,
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from an input perspective.
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iz perspektive unošenja podataka.
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Secondly, as a machine,
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Drugi način, kao mašina,
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I could place digital information,
or output information,
or output information,
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ubacio bih digitalne,
odnosno izlazne informacije
odnosno izlazne informacije
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into reality.
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u stvarnost.
08:03
Holograms are examples of a machine
interacting with an environment
interacting with an environment
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Hologrami su primer mašine
u interakciji sa okolinom,
u interakciji sa okolinom,
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from an output perspective.
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iz perspektive unošenja podataka.
08:10
Finally, as a machine,
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Najzad, kao mašina,
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I could exchange energy
with the world via haptics.
with the world via haptics.
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mogao bih da razmenjujem energiju
sa svetom pomoću dodira.
sa svetom pomoću dodira.
08:17
Now, imagine being able to feel
the temperature of a virtual object,
the temperature of a virtual object,
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Zamislite mogućnost da osetite
temperaturu virtuelnog objekta,
temperaturu virtuelnog objekta,
08:22
or better yet, imagine pushing a hologram
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ili još bolje, zamislite
da gurnete hologram
da gurnete hologram
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and having it push you back
with equal force.
with equal force.
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i da vam on uzvrati jednakom silom.
08:29
With this perspective,
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Sa ovakvim sagledavanjem,
08:31
we are able to collapse reality
into a simple matrix.
into a simple matrix.
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u mogućnosti smo da urušimo
stvarnost u jednostavnu matricu.
stvarnost u jednostavnu matricu.
08:36
Now here's a secret:
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Evo u čemu je tajna:
08:37
as an engineer, I get really excited
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kao inženjer, budem presrećan
08:39
anytime I can reduce
something to the matrix.
something to the matrix.
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svaki put kad nešto suzim na matricu.
08:42
From self-driving cars
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Od samovozećih automobila,
08:44
to smartphones
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preko pametnih telefona,
08:46
to this holographic computer on my head,
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do ovog hologramskog kompjutera na meni,
08:48
machines are becoming capable
of understanding our world.
of understanding our world.
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uređaji sve više postaju sposobni
za razumevanje našeg sveta.
za razumevanje našeg sveta.
08:53
And they are starting to interact with us
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Počinju i da stupaju u interakciju sa nama
08:55
in significantly more personal ways.
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na dosta ličnijem nivou.
09:00
Now, imagine having granular control
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Zamislite da imate preciznu kontrolu
09:03
over everything in the world.
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nad svim stvarima na svetu.
09:06
Move the dial one way,
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Okrenete na jednu stranu,
09:10
and you get reality.
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dobijete stvarnost.
09:13
Move the dial the other way,
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Okrenete na drugu stranu,
09:17
and you get virtual reality.
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i dobijete virtualnu stvarnost.
09:21
Now, imagine dialing
your entire environment
your entire environment
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Zamislite sad pozivanje celog okruženja
09:26
between virtual and real worlds.
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između virtualnog i realnog sveta.
09:34
I love it down here.
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Sviđa mi se ovde.
09:36
Now, imagine if I could look at all of you
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Zamislite sad da vas sve pogledam
09:40
and dial from real humans into elves.
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i preokrenem iz ljudi u vilenjake.
09:44
When technology truly
understands our world,
understands our world,
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Kada tehnologija
zaista bude shvatala naš svet,
zaista bude shvatala naš svet,
09:47
it will again transform
the ways we interact,
the ways we interact,
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ponovo će promeniti
način na koji komuniciramo,
način na koji komuniciramo,
09:51
the ways we work and the ways we play.
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na koji radimo i zabavljamo se.
09:59
Less than half a century ago,
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Pre manje od pola veka,
10:01
two courageous men landed on the moon,
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dva hrabra čoveka su sletela na Mesec.
10:04
using computers that were less powerful
than the phones in your pockets.
than the phones in your pockets.
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koristeći se računarima manje snažnim
od telefona u našim džepovima.
od telefona u našim džepovima.
10:09
Six hundred million humans watched them
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Šest stotina miliona ljudi ih je gledalo
10:12
on grainy, black-and-white televisions.
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na tačkastim, crno-belim televizorima.
10:15
And the world?
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A svet?
10:17
The world was mesmerized.
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Svet je bio očaran.
10:20
Now imagine how our children
and their children
and their children
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Sad zamislite našu decu i njihovu decu
10:24
will experience the continued
exploration of space
exploration of space
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kako doživljavaju
nastavak istraživanja svemira
nastavak istraživanja svemira
10:28
with technology
that understands this world.
that understands this world.
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sa tehnologijom koja razume ovaj svet.
10:33
We already live in a world where
real-time universal translators exist.
real-time universal translators exist.
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Već živimo u vremenu u kome postoji
trenutni univerzalni prevodilac.
trenutni univerzalni prevodilac.
10:38
And I can squint, and I can already
see holographic telepresence
see holographic telepresence
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Mogu da naslutim i već vidim
holografsko prisustvo na daljinu
holografsko prisustvo na daljinu
10:43
in our near future.
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u bliskoj budućnosti.
10:45
In fact, since we've been lucky
with our demo so far,
with our demo so far,
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Zapravo, budući da smo imali sreće
sa dosadašnjom prezentacijom,
sa dosadašnjom prezentacijom,
10:48
let's try doing something else
even more crazy.
even more crazy.
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pokušaćemo nešto još luđe.
10:51
I invite you to experience,
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Pozivam vas da iskusite,
10:53
for the first time anywhere in the world,
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prvi put na svetu,
10:56
here on the TED stage,
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ovde na TED pozornici,
10:59
a real-life holographic teleportation,
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holografsku teleportaciju
u realnom vremenu
u realnom vremenu
11:03
between me and my friend,
Dr. Jeffrey Norris,
Dr. Jeffrey Norris,
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između mog prijatelja
dr Džefrija Norisa i mene,
dr Džefrija Norisa i mene,
11:07
from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
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iz NASA Laboratorije za mlazni pogon.
11:10
Finger crossed. Hi, Jeff.
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Držite fige. Zdravo, Džef.
Džef Noris: Zdravo, Aleks.
11:14
Jeff Norris: Hey, Alex.
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11:15
Alex Kipman: Phew! That worked.
How are you doing today, Jeff?
How are you doing today, Jeff?
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Aleks Kipman: Uspelo je!
Kako si danas, Džef?
Kako si danas, Džef?
(Aplauz)
11:18
(Applause)
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DžN: Odlično, imao sam sjajnu sedmicu.
11:20
JN: Doing great. I had an awesome week.
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11:23
AK: So, can you tell us a little bit,
Jeff, about where you are?
Jeff, about where you are?
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AK: Možeš li nam reći gde se nalaziš?
11:28
JN: Well, I'm actually in three places.
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DžN: Zapravo se nalazim na tri mesta.
11:31
I'm standing in a room across the street,
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Stojim u sobi prekoputa,
11:34
while I'm standing on this stage with you,
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dok stojim tu sa tobom na pozornici,
11:37
while I'm standing on Mars,
a hundred million miles away.
a hundred million miles away.
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dok se nalazim na Marsu,
stotinu miliona kilometara daleko.
stotinu miliona kilometara daleko.
11:41
AK: Wow, a hundred million
miles away. This is crazy!
miles away. This is crazy!
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AK: Vau, stotinu miliona
kilometara daleko, to je suludo!
kilometara daleko, to je suludo!
11:45
Can you tell us a little bit more
about where all this data
about where all this data
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Možeš li nam reći nešto više
o tome odakle svi ti podaci
o tome odakle svi ti podaci
11:48
from Mars is coming from?
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sa Marsa potiču?
11:52
JN: Absolutely.
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DžN: Naravno.
11:53
This is a precise
holographic replica of Mars,
holographic replica of Mars,
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Ovo je precizna holografska replika Marsa,
11:57
built from data captured
by the Curiosity Mars Rover,
by the Curiosity Mars Rover,
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izgrađena na osnovu informacija
rovera „Radoznalost“ na Marsu,
rovera „Radoznalost“ na Marsu,
12:00
that I can explore as easily
as a place on Earth.
as a place on Earth.
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koju mogu da istražujem
podjednako lako kao i mesta na Zemlji.
podjednako lako kao i mesta na Zemlji.
12:05
Humans are natural explorers.
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Ljudi su po prirodi istraživači.
12:08
We can instantly
understand an environment,
understand an environment,
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Možemo istog trenutka da razumemo okolinu
12:10
just by being present in it.
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samim prisustvom u njoj.
12:13
We've built tools like our Mars Rover
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Izgradili smo alate poput rovera za Mars
12:15
to extend our vision
and lengthen our reach.
and lengthen our reach.
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kako bismo proširili vidike
i produžili dohvat.
i produžili dohvat.
12:19
But for decades,
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Međutim, godinama
12:21
we've explored from a seat
behind screens and keyboards.
behind screens and keyboards.
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istražujemo iz stolice
iza monitora i tastatura.
iza monitora i tastatura.
12:26
Now, we're leaping over all of that,
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Sada sve to preskačemo
12:29
over the giant antennas
and the relay satellites
and the relay satellites
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preko ogromnih antena i satelita,
12:32
and the vastness between worlds
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kao i prostranstva između svetova,
12:35
to take our first steps on this landscape
as if we were truly there.
as if we were truly there.
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kako bismo zakoračili po tim predelima
kao da smo zaista tamo.
kao da smo zaista tamo.
12:41
Today, a group of scientists
on our mission
on our mission
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Danas, grupa naučnika iz naše misije
12:44
are seeing Mars as never before --
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posmatra Mars kao nikada pre -
12:47
an alien world made
a little more familiar,
a little more familiar,
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nepoznat svet koji nam postaje bliži
12:50
because they're finally exploring it
as humans should.
as humans should.
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jer se napokon istražuje na pravi način.
12:55
But our dreams don't have to end
with making it just like being there.
with making it just like being there.
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Međutim, naši snovi ne moraju da stanu
na tome da bude kao da smo tamo.
na tome da bude kao da smo tamo.
12:59
When we dial this real world
to the virtual,
to the virtual,
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Kad spojimo stvarni i virtuelni svet,
13:02
we can do magical things.
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možemo da činimo magične stvari.
13:05
We can see in invisible wavelengths
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Možemo videti nevidljive talasne dužine
13:07
or teleport to the top of a mountain.
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ili se teleportovati na vrh planine.
13:10
Perhaps someday, we'll feel the minerals
in a rock just by touching it.
in a rock just by touching it.
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Možda jednog dana osetimo minerale
u kamenu samim dodirivanjem.
u kamenu samim dodirivanjem.
13:17
We're taking the first steps.
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Činimo prve korake ka tome.
13:19
But we want the whole world
to join us in taking the next,
to join us in taking the next,
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Želimo celi svet da nam se
pridruži u sledećim koracima,
pridruži u sledećim koracima,
13:22
because this is not a journey for a few,
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jer ovo nije putovanje za odabrane,
13:25
but for all of us.
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već za sve nas.
13:28
AK: Thank you Jeff, this was amazing.
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AK: Hvala ti, Džef, bilo je odlično.
13:30
Thank you so much for joining us
on the TED stage today.
on the TED stage today.
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Hvala što si nam se pridružio
na TED bini danas.
na TED bini danas.
(Aplauz)
13:33
(Applause)
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13:39
JN: Thank you Alex, bye bye.
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DžN: Hvala tebi, Aleks, ćao.
13:42
AK: Bye, Jeff.
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AK: Ćao, Džef.
(Aplauz)
13:50
(Applause)
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13:57
I dream about this future
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Maštam o ovakvoj budućnosti svaki dan.
14:01
every single day.
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14:04
I take inspiration from our ancestors.
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Inspirišu me naši preci.
Nekada smo živeli u plemenima,
gde smo ulazili u interakciju,
gde smo ulazili u interakciju,
14:06
We used to live in tribes
where we interacted,
where we interacted,
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14:09
communicated and worked together.
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komunicirali i radili zajedno.
14:12
We are all beginning to build technology
that will enable us to return
that will enable us to return
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Počinjemo sada stvarati tehnologiju
koja će nam omogućiti vraćanje
koja će nam omogućiti vraćanje
14:17
to the humanity that brought us
where we are today --
where we are today --
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ka ljudskosti koja nas je dovela
ovde gde se danas nalazimo,
ovde gde se danas nalazimo,
14:21
technology that will let us stop living
inside this 2D world
inside this 2D world
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tehnologiju koja će nas osloboditi
dvodimenzionalnog sveta
dvodimenzionalnog sveta
14:26
of monitors and pixels,
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monitora i piksela,
14:28
and let us start remembering
what it feels like
what it feels like
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i početi da nas podseća kakav je osećaj
14:33
to live in our 3D world.
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živeti unutar našeg 3D sveta.
14:37
It's a phenomenal time to be human.
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Divno je vreme da se bude čovek.
14:42
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
(Aplauz)
14:43
(Applause)
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14:48
Helen Walters: Thanks so much.
I have some questions.
I have some questions.
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Helen Volters: Hvala ti puno.
Imam neka pitanja.
Imam neka pitanja.
14:50
AK: OK.
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AK: U redu.
14:52
HW: So there's been
some talk in the press.
some talk in the press.
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HV: Bilo je nekih priča u štampi.
14:54
And I'll just ask you straight,
then we have a straight answer.
then we have a straight answer.
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Pitaću te direktno,
kako bismo dobili direktan odgovor.
kako bismo dobili direktan odgovor.
Postavlja se pitanje
o razlici između demonstracije
o razlici između demonstracije
14:57
There's been talk about the difference
between the demos
between the demos
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i stvarnog komercijalnog proizvoda,
15:00
and the reality of the commercial product.
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15:02
Talk about this field of view issue.
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pitanje o problemima vidnog polja.
15:04
Is this type of experience what someone
who buys the product will get?
who buys the product will get?
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Da li će kupac ovog proizvoda
dobiti isto ovakvo iskustvo?
dobiti isto ovakvo iskustvo?
15:08
AK: It's a great question,
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AK: Dobro pitanje.
15:10
Or, said better, this is a question
we've been receiving
we've been receiving
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Tačnije rečeno, to je pitanje
koje nam mediji postavljaju
koje nam mediji postavljaju
15:13
in the media for possibly the last year.
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već godinu dana, zasigurno.
15:16
If you do your research,
I haven't answered that question.
I haven't answered that question.
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Ako istražite, videćete
da nisam odgovorio na to pitanje.
da nisam odgovorio na to pitanje.
15:18
I've purposely ignored it,
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Namerno ga ignorišem
15:20
because ultimately,
it's the wrong question to ask.
it's the wrong question to ask.
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jer naposletku,
pogrešno je postavljeno pitanje.
pogrešno je postavljeno pitanje.
15:23
That's the equivalent of me showing
holograms to someone for the first time,
holograms to someone for the first time,
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To je isto kao da pokažem
nekome holograme prvi put,
nekome holograme prvi put,
15:29
and you then saying,
"What's the size of your television?"
"What's the size of your television?"
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a onda upitam za veličinu televizora.
15:33
The field of view for the product
is almost irrelevant.
is almost irrelevant.
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Vidno polje proizvoda je skoro nebitno.
15:36
What we should be talking about
is the density of lights,
is the density of lights,
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Trebalo bi da pričamo o gustini svetlosti,
15:40
or radiance, that shows up.
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odnosno o osvetljenosti.
15:41
Better said, what the angular resolution
is of the things that you see.
is of the things that you see.
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Bolje rečeno, koja je ugaona rezolucija
stvari koje vidimo.
stvari koje vidimo.
Tako posmatrano, videli ste sami.
15:45
So from that perspective, what you saw --
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Kamera ima Holo Lens,
15:47
you know, the camera
is wearing a HoloLens.
is wearing a HoloLens.
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15:49
So even if I wanted to cheat, I can't.
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pa i da sam hteo da varam, ne bih mogao.
15:51
HW: But the camera has a different lens
on it than our eye. Right?
on it than our eye. Right?
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HV: Ipak, kamera u sebi ima
drugačije sočivo u odnosu na naše oko.
drugačije sočivo u odnosu na naše oko.
15:54
AK: The camera has a fish-eye lens on it.
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AK: Kamera ima sočivo „riblje oko“.
15:57
It's seeing a much wider view
than the human eye is.
than the human eye is.
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Vidi mnogo šire od ljudskog oka.
16:00
So if you think about the points of light
that show up radially
that show up radially
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Dakle, ako uzmete tačke svetlosti
koje se zračno prostiru
koje se zračno prostiru
16:05
from the vision of the camera,
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od vizuelnog dela kamere,
16:06
which is the thing that matters:
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šta je ono što je zapravo bitno:
koliko tačaka svetlosti
mogu dobiti u datom opsegu?
mogu dobiti u datom opsegu?
16:08
how many points of light
can I get in a given volume?
can I get in a given volume?
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16:11
That's the same as I get
on this HoloLens as I will on that one.
on this HoloLens as I will on that one.
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To je isto na ovom Holo Lensu,
kao što bih dobio na onog drugom.
kao što bih dobio na onog drugom.
16:15
Now, this camera sees
a much wider view of the world, right?
a much wider view of the world, right?
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Sad, ova kamera
ima širi pogled na svet, zar ne?
ima širi pogled na svet, zar ne?
16:20
HW: Jesus Christ!
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HV: Pobogu!
(Smeh)
16:21
(Laughter)
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AK: Pojavio se!
Rekao sam ti da će se pojaviti.
Rekao sam ti da će se pojaviti.
16:22
AK: He did show up!
I told you he'd show up.
I told you he'd show up.
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Stani ovde.
16:24
Come this way.
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16:25
(Laughter)
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16:27
HW: Oh, shit.
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16:29
AK: And there's holographic Jeff Norris.
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Eno holografskog Džefa Norisa.
16:32
HW: I knew something was happening,
but I really wasn't sure what.
but I really wasn't sure what.
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HV: Znala sam da se nešto
dešava, ali nisam bila sigurna šta.
dešava, ali nisam bila sigurna šta.
AK: Da skratimo,
da bude što oštrija slika,
da bude što oštrija slika,
16:35
AK: So in short: to be super crisp,
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the camera that you see on the screen
has a wider field of view
has a wider field of view
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kamera koju vidite na ekranu
ima širi ugao gledanja
ima širi ugao gledanja
16:40
than the human eye.
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od ljudskog oka,
16:41
But the angular resolution
of the holograms that you see,
of the holograms that you see,
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ali ugaona rezolucija
holograma koji vidite,
holograma koji vidite,
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the points of light per unit of area,
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količina svetlosti po jedinici prostora
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are actually the same.
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je zapravo ista.
HV: Dakle, proveo si...
Džef, preći ću na tebe za minut...
Džef, preći ću na tebe za minut...
16:50
HW: So you spent -- Jeff,
I'll get to you in a minute --
I'll get to you in a minute --
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so you spent a lot of time
mapping the stage --
mapping the stage --
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Proveo si mnogo vremena
mapirajuću pozornicu.
mapirajuću pozornicu.
16:58
AK: That's right.
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AK: Tačno.
16:59
HW: So help me out here:
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HV: Objasni mi sad:
17:00
if I buy a HoloLens and have it at home,
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ako kupim Holo Lens da koristim kod kuće,
17:02
I don't need to map my apartment, right?
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da li bi trebalo da mapiram svoj stan?
17:04
AK: The HoloLens maps in real time
at about five frames per second,
at about five frames per second,
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AK: Holo Lens mape u realnom vremenu
imaju oko 5 frejmova po sekundi,
imaju oko 5 frejmova po sekundi,
sa tehnologijom koju nazivamo
prostorno mapiranje.
prostorno mapiranje.
17:08
with this technology
that we call spatial mapping.
that we call spatial mapping.
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17:11
So in your home, as soon as you put it on,
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Dakle, u kući, čim pokreneš uređaj,
17:13
holograms will start showing up,
and you'll start placing them
and you'll start placing them
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pojaviće se hologrami koje ćeš smeštati,
a oni će sami saznavati tvoj dom.
17:16
and they'll start learning your home.
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U sceniranom okruženju,
gde želimo staviti nešto na moju glavu
gde želimo staviti nešto na moju glavu
17:17
In a stage environment where we're trying
to get something on my head
to get something on my head
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to communicate with something over there
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kako bismo komunicirali sa nečim udaljenim
17:23
with all of the wireless connectivity
that usually brings all conferences down,
that usually brings all conferences down,
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bežičnim putem,
što inače ometa konferencije,
što inače ometa konferencije,
17:27
we don't take the risk
of trying to do this live.
of trying to do this live.
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ne želimo da rizikujemo radeći uživo.
17:32
So what we do is pre-map the stage
at five frames per second
at five frames per second
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Zato prethodno mapiramo pozornicu
sa pet frejmova po sekundi
sa pet frejmova po sekundi
17:35
with the same spatial-mapping technology
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istom tehnologijom prostornog mapiranja
17:37
that you'll use with the product at home,
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koju ćete koristiti kod kuće.
Potom to sačuvamo
17:39
and then we store it,
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17:40
so that when there's shenanigans
of wireless in an environment like this,
of wireless in an environment like this,
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u slučaju smetnji sa bežične veze
u okruženju poput ovoga,
u okruženju poput ovoga,
između Holo Lensa na kameri
i onog na mojoj glavi,
i onog na mojoj glavi,
17:43
between the camera's HoloLens
and the one on my head,
and the one on my head,
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17:46
we don't have things disappear.
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kako objekti ne bi nestali.
17:48
Because ultimately, the holograms
are coming from this HoloLens,
are coming from this HoloLens,
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Naposletku, hologrami
dolaze od ovog Holo Lensa,
dolaze od ovog Holo Lensa,
17:51
and that one is just viewing the HoloLens.
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dok druga kamera samo vidi Holo Lens.
17:53
So if I lose connectivity,
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Ako bih izgubio povezanost,
17:55
you would stop seeing
beautiful things on the screen.
beautiful things on the screen.
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ne biste više videli
prelepe stvari na ekranu.
prelepe stvari na ekranu.
HV: Zaista je bilo prelepo.
17:58
HW: And it was beautiful.
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18:00
Um ... Jeff?
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Nego, Džef...
18:02
JN: Yes?
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DžN: Da?
18:04
HW: Hi.
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HV: Zdravo.
18:07
AK: I'll take a step back.
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AK: Povući ću se nazad.
18:08
HW: So Jeff, you were on Mars,
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HV: Džef, bili ste na Marsu,
18:11
you were here, you were
in a room across the street.
in a room across the street.
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bili ste ovde i u sobi prekoputa.
Sa hologramom, imate vid,
18:14
Tell me more about the fact that,
with holograms, you have sight
with holograms, you have sight
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but you don't have touch,
you don't have smell.
you don't have smell.
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ali nemate dodir i miris.
18:21
Is this scientifically useful now?
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Koliko je to naučno upotrebljivo sada?
18:24
That's my question for a hologram.
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To je moje pitanje upućeno hologramu.
18:27
JN: Thanks for the question.
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DžN: Hvala za pitanje.
18:28
Absolutely, I believe
that these technologies
that these technologies
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Verujem da su ove tehnologije apsolutno
18:31
are scientifically useful right now,
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naučno korisne sada,
18:33
and that's why we're using them
in multiple parts of our work at NASA.
in multiple parts of our work at NASA.
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zbog čega ih koristimo
u raznim oblastima rada u NASA-i.
u raznim oblastima rada u NASA-i.
18:38
So we're using it to improve
the ways that we explore Mars.
the ways that we explore Mars.
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Koristimo ih za unapređivanje
načina istraživanja Marsa,
načina istraživanja Marsa,
18:41
We're also using it for our astronauts
on the space station.
on the space station.
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kao i za astronaute na svemirskoj stanici.
18:45
We're even using it now to design
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Čak ih koristimo za dizajn
18:47
the next generation of our spacecraft.
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nove generacije svemirskih letelica.
18:50
HW: Amazing. OK, Jeff, please go away.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
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HV: Sjajno. Sada te molim da nestaneš.
Veoma ti se zahvaljujem.
Veoma ti se zahvaljujem.
18:53
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
18:56
Alex, really, that was amazing.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
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Aleks, zaista je bilo predivno.
Hvala ti puno.
Hvala ti puno.
18:59
AK: Thank you.
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AK: Hvala tebi.
HV: Hvala. Hvala.
19:00
HW: Thank you. Thank you.
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19:02
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Alex Kipman - InventorWith his latest invention, HoloLens, Kinect creator Alex Kipman has opened a virtual holographic universe for users to explore -- and he may have changed the face of computing forever.
Why you should listen
In 2001, after graduating from RIT, Technical Fellow and inventor Alex Kipman joined Microsoft. In 2008 he created Kinect, the motion controller that revolutionized gaming and became the fastest-selling consumer device of all time, selling one million units on its first day of release.
Now Kipman has unveiled HoloLens, a jaw dropping device that turns everyday environments into interactive holographic worlds, mixing digital content right into our world. In addition to marking Microsoft's first foray into HMDs, HoloLens has the potential to turn computing as we know it inside out
Alex Kipman | Speaker | TED.com