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Sarah Jones: What does the future hold? 11 characters offer quirky answers
薩拉·瓊斯: 未來在何方？十一位人物為你逐一快速解答
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薩拉·瓊斯通過最簡單的換衣術變換不同人物角色。在這場笑聲滿載的表演中，她從未來邀請了十一位“朋友”上台——包括語速驚人的拉丁裔女人和直言不諱的警察——問他們一些我們想要解答的問題。
Sarah Jones - Polymorphic playwright
Tony Award-winning monologist, UNICEF ambassador, firebrand and FCC-fighting poet -- Sarah Jones assumes as many roles offstage as on. Full bio
Tony Award-winning monologist, UNICEF ambassador, firebrand and FCC-fighting poet -- Sarah Jones assumes as many roles offstage as on. Full bio
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00:12
First of all, for those of you who
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首先，我希望向那些
不了解我工作性質的觀眾
不了解我工作性質的觀眾
00:14
are not familiar with my work,
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解釋一下，我的工作是
00:16
I create multicultural characters,
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創造多元文化人物角色，
00:19
so characters from lots of different backgrounds.
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亦即是擁有各種各樣
文化背景的人物角色。
文化背景的人物角色。
00:22
So before the present is the new future,
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那麼在談“現在就是新未來”之前，
00:24
a bit about the past is that I grew up in a family
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我要說說過去，我成長所處的家庭
是一個凡事多元的家庭--
多元種族、多元文化
多元種族、多元文化
00:27
that was multi-everything -- multi-racial, multi-cultural,
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black and white, Caribbean,
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黑人、白人、加勒比人
00:33
Irish-American, German-American.
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愛爾蘭裔美國人、德國裔美國人，
00:34
There was Dominican
music blasting from stereos.
music blasting from stereos.
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音響爆發的多米尼加音樂震耳欲聾。
00:39
There were Christians and Jews.
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家裡既有基督教徒，又有猶太人
00:41
That's a long story filled with
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我的家事錯綜複雜、信仰各異
00:43
intrigue and interfaith guilt and shame.
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充滿了罪過與愧疚，恥辱與遺憾。
00:46
But I was totally immersed in this world
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但我當時完全沉浸在
充滿了各種角色的世界裡，
00:50
that was filled with everybody,
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00:52
and then I went on to the United Nations school,
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然後我就去了聯合國的學校讀書，
00:56
and that just completely —
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而這樣的經歷完全就——
00:57
So I began sort of developing these voices
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因此我開始建立這些聲音
01:01
and these people,
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建立這些人物角色，
01:03
all of whom were loosely based
on people I really know,
on people I really know,
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這些人物都來自於
我生活中認識的真實人物，
我生活中認識的真實人物，
01:06
and so, for example, in performing them,
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所以比方說，為了扮演他們
01:10
I would really try to inhabit them.
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我會真正嘗試進入他們的角色。
01:12
And for example,
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給大家一個例子，
01:13
I don't really talk like that,
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事實上我一般不會那樣講話，
01:15
but that was one of my people,
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但那是我其中一個人物的說話方式，
01:18
and I'm going to bring a few of my friends --
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而我即將把幾個朋友——
01:21
I think of them as my friends —
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我視他們為我的朋友——
01:23
to this stage, in this spirit of the idea
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帶到台上
從變化轉換的角度來看
01:25
that the present is the new future,
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“現在就是新未來”
01:28
in sort of a meta way,
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01:29
because I thought about it, and the future, for me,
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因為有時我考慮現在和未來
01:31
what can be so frightening
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對於我而言，可怕的是
01:33
is that I don't know what's coming.
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我不知道將來會發生什麼。
01:35
I don't know if that's true for other people,
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我不知道其他人
會不會有同樣的想法
會不會有同樣的想法
01:36
but that notion of thinking about
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但是我的想法是
01:39
how we can understand the future
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思考我們如何能夠理解未來、
01:42
and predict outcomes,
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預測未來，
01:43
for me, it's terrifying to not
know what might be coming.
know what might be coming.
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對於我而言，對未來的無知是相當可怕的。
01:48
And so the idea that there are questions
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一想到會有許多問題
01:50
that I've never seen
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我從來沒見過的問題
01:52
that my people are going to answer,
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但我的人物朋友要回答這些問題，
01:54
and some of these characters
have been with me for ages,
have been with me for ages,
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其中一些人物與我一起很多年了，
01:56
some of them don't even have names,
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其中一些甚至連名字都沒有，
01:58
I don't know what's going to happen.
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我不知道會發生什麼事情，
01:59
I don't know what's coming,
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我不知道會有什麼問題，
02:01
and all I can do is remind myself
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我可以做的就是提醒自己，
02:04
that I told Chris I'd fly by the seat of my pants,
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我跟克里斯說，
我要像武松那樣赤手空拳試試
我要像武松那樣赤手空拳試試
02:06
and now that I'm up here it sort of feels like
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現在我站在台上
02:08
that dream where you don't have any pants on,
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感覺彷彿在夢中變成武大郎，
02:11
and so I suppose I'm going to be
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所以我想我只能是
02:13
flying by the seat of my ass.
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憑著武大的炊餅試試。
02:16
That said, let's just see who comes out.
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既然這麼說了，那就看看誰先出場。
02:18
May we have the first question:
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我們可以看第一個問題嗎：
02:19
"Do you ever get headaches
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『你有沒有試過
02:21
from the microchips implanted in your brain?"
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因為大腦植入的芯片而頭疼？』
02:23
Right.
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沒錯
02:26
Okay.
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好
02:28
Well first of all, I'll just say
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首先，我會說
02:31
that I hope you can hear me okay.
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我希望在座各位都能聽見我說話。
02:33
My name is Lorraine Levine,
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我叫羅琳·萊文
02:36
and the idea of microchips implanted in my brain,
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一想到我大腦裡植入的芯片，
02:42
frankly, just putting on my glasses reminds me
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老實說，單單讓我戴上眼鏡
就夠讓我謝天謝地：
我戴的不是谷歌眼鏡。
我戴的不是谷歌眼鏡。
02:47
of thank God I'm not wearing the Google Glasses.
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02:50
No offense to them. I'm glad that you all enjoy them,
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我無心冒犯。我樂意你們都喜歡這些眼鏡，
02:53
but at my age,
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但是到了我這個年紀，
02:54
just putting on the regular ones I have
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單單讓我戴上普通的眼鏡，
02:57
already gives me too much information.
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就已經帶來多得不得了的資訊。
02:59
Do you understand what I'm saying to you?
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大家理解我的話嗎？
03:01
I don't need to know more. I don't want to know.
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我不要知道更多。我不想知道。
03:04
That's it. That's enough.
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就是這樣。這就夠了。
03:06
I love you all. You're wonderful.
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我愛各位。你們太好了。
03:08
It's fabulous to be here with such big machers
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今年可以再次跟這些大人物同台
03:11
again this year. Mwah!
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真是無與倫比，嘸哇！
03:14
Okay, next question. (Applause)
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好，下一個問題 。（掌聲）
03:17
Next, please.
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下一個，謝謝
03:19
"Is dating boring,
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『約會是否太無聊了，
03:20
now that humans reproduce asexually?"
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既然現在人類都進行無性繁殖？』
03:23
Who do we got?
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我們有誰呢？
03:27
Hi, um, okay, hi everybody.
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（西班牙文口音）大家好，唔，大家好。
03:30
My name is Nereida.
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我叫樂蕊達
03:31
I just want to say first of all
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我想說的是
03:33
that dating is never boring under any circumstance.
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無論如何約會都不無聊。
03:35
But I am very excited to be here right now,
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但是來到這裡我覺得很興奮，
03:37
so I am just trying to remind myself that,
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我在努力地提醒自己
03:39
you know, like, the purpose
of being here and everything,
of being here and everything,
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今天上來的目的之類。
03:41
I mean, trying to answer these
questions, it is very exciting.
questions, it is very exciting.
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我是說，試著回答這些問題，真的很刺激。
03:44
But I also, I just need to acknowledge
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但是我也必須承認
03:46
that TED is an incredible experience right now
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TED就是現今不可多得的體驗
03:48
in the present, like, I just need to say, like,
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就像、我只是需要說、就像
03:50
Isabel Allende. Isabel Allende!
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伊莎貝·阿言德、伊莎貝·阿言德！
(智利女小說家，04年獲選美國文學藝術院院士)
(智利女小說家，04年獲選美國文學藝術院院士)
03:52
Okay, maybe it doesn't mean,
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好吧，或者這沒什麼意義，
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of course it means something to you,
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當然這對於你們來說是有意義的，
03:55
but to me, it's like, another level, okay?
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但對於我來說，這就像，另一種意義，好吧？
03:57
Because I'm Latina and I really appreciate the fact
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因為我是拉美裔，我真的很欣慰
03:59
that there are role models here that I can really,
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現在有一些楷模讓我真的可以，
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I don't know, I just need to say that.
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我不知道。我只是需要說這些。
04:03
That's incredible to me, and sometimes
when I'm nervous and everything like that,
when I'm nervous and everything like that,
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這真讓我不可置信，
有時我一緊張遇到那樣的情況，
有時我一緊張遇到那樣的情況，
04:06
I just need to, like, say some affirmations
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我只需要，比如，說一些肯定的話
04:08
that can help me.
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來幫助自己。
04:11
I usually just try to use, like, the three little words
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通常我就只會試著用，譬如，那三個詞
04:13
that always make me feel better:
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會讓我感覺好一點的三個詞：
04:15
Sotomayor, Sotomayor, Sotomayor. (Laughter)
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索托馬約爾、索托馬約爾、索托馬約爾 （笑聲）
（美國聯邦最高法院第一位拉丁裔法官）
（美國聯邦最高法院第一位拉丁裔法官）
04:18
Just, it really helps me to get grounded.
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就是，這真的會幫助我鎮定下來。
04:20
Now I can use Allende, Allende, Allende,
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現在我可以用阿言德、阿言德、阿言德
04:22
and, you know, I just need to say it, like,
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你們都知道，我就是需要說出來，好像是，
04:24
it's so incredible to be here, and I knew
that we were going to have these questions.
that we were going to have these questions.
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來到這裡太不可置信了，
我知道我們要回答一些問題
我知道我們要回答一些問題
04:26
I was so nervous and I was thinking
just, like, oh my God, oh my God,
just, like, oh my God, oh my God,
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我就是太緊張，一直想著，
就像，噢，老天爺、老天爺，
就像，噢，老天爺、老天爺，
04:29
and reminding me, because
I've had, like, some very,
I've had, like, some very,
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一直提醒自己，因為我一直都想一些非常
04:31
especially since the last time we were here at TED,
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特別是在上次來了TED之後，
04:32
it was, like, unbelievable,
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那就像，真不可置信，
04:34
and then right after that, like,
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在那之後
04:35
so many crazy things happened, like,
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馬上就發生了那麼多瘋狂的事情，比如，
04:36
we ended up going to the White House to perform.
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我們竟然去了白宮表演。
04:37
That was, like, amazing,
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那簡直就是太神奇了。
04:39
and I'm standing there,
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我站在那裡
04:40
and I was just like, please don't say, "Oh my God."
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我只是想，千萬不要說『我的老天爺』
04:41
Don't say, "Oh my God."
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不要說『我的老天爺』
04:42
And I just kept saying it: "Oh my God. Oh my God."
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然後我就一直說不要說
『我的老天爺、我的老天爺』
『我的老天爺、我的老天爺』
04:44
And, you know, I kept thinking to myself, like,
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那你知道，我在一直跟我自己說，比如
04:46
President Obama has to come
up here at the same podium,
up here at the same podium,
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奧巴馬總統都要上來同一個講台
04:49
and I'm standing here saying, "Oh my God."
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而我卻站在這裡喊『我的老天爺』
04:50
It's like, the separation of church and state.
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就像，要分裂教堂和國家的關係
04:51
It's just, I couldn't, like, I couldn't process.
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這就是，我，我要當機了
04:53
It was really too much.
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處理不了
04:54
So I think I've lost my way.
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所以我想我已經不知所云了
04:56
But what I wanted to say is that dating, for me,
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但是我想說，約會，對於我來說，
04:59
you know, as far as I'm concerned,
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你知道嗎，就我所知，
05:01
however you reproduce, as long
as you're enjoying yourself
as you're enjoying yourself
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無論你怎麼繁殖，
只要你享受這個過程，
只要你享受這個過程，
05:04
and it's with another consenting
asexual -- I don't know.
asexual -- I don't know.
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而且是跟另一位合意的無性人——我不知道。
05:08
You know where I'm going with that.
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你知道我要說什麼
05:09
Okay, ciao, gracias.
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好了，再見，（西班牙文）謝謝。
05:11
Okay, next question. (Applause)
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好，下一個問題。（掌聲）
05:14
What are your top five favorite songs right now?
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目前你最喜愛的五首歌曲是？
05:22
All right, well first of all, I'mma say,
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（紐約口音）好，首先，我要說
05:24
you know what I'm saying, I'm
the only dude up here right now.
the only dude up here right now.
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你知道我要說什麼。我是台上的唯一一位老友
05:27
My name is Rashid,
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我叫拉希德
05:29
and I never been at TED before,
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我從未來過TED
05:31
you know what I'm saying.
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你知道我說什麼
05:32
I think, Sarah Jones, maybe she
didn't want me to come out last time.
didn't want me to come out last time.
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我想薩拉·瓊斯，也許她上次不想讓我出場
05:36
I don't know why. You know what I'm saying.
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我不知道為什麼。你懂我說啥
05:38
Obviously I would be like a perfect fit for TED.
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很明顯我就相當適合TED的舞台。
05:40
You know what I'm saying.
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你懂我說啥
05:42
First of all, that I'm in hip hop,
you know what I'm saying.
you know what I'm saying.
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首先，我是玩街舞的，你懂我說啥。
05:45
I know some of y'all may be not really
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我知道在場的有些人
05:47
as much into the music,
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也許不是那麼喜歡音樂
05:48
but the first way y'all can always know,
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但首先所有人都可以理解
05:50
you know what I'm saying, that I'm in hip hop,
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你懂我說啥，我玩的是街舞
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is 'cos I hold the microphone
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因為我拿麥克風的姿態
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in an official emcee posture.
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就是主持人拿麥的風格
05:56
Y'all can see that right there.
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大家坐着都可以看到
05:57
That's how you hold it.
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這就是你拿麥的標準姿勢
05:59
All right, so you get your little tutorial right there.
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好，那大家都上了一門小課。
06:01
But when Sarah Jones told me
we was gonna come up here,
we was gonna come up here,
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但是當薩拉·瓊斯跟我說我們要上台
06:04
I was like, betch, you know what I'm saying,
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我就，操，你懂我說啥
06:05
TED is real fly, I got a whole lot of dope,
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TED不是開玩笑的，我討了一大堆藥，
06:07
you know what I'm saying,
shit going on and everything,
shit going on and everything,
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你懂我說啥，老天無時無刻都在下狗屎，
06:10
but she was like, yeah,
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但是她就像，沒錯，
06:11
we're going to have to answer,
like, some random questions,
like, some random questions,
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我們要回答一些比較隨意的問題
06:14
just like, and I was like, what the hell is that?
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就像，然後我就想，這搞什麼鬼？
06:15
You know what I'm saying, just stand up there
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你懂我說啥，就要我站在那裡，
06:17
and answer some random questions?
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回到一些隨意的問題？
06:18
I don't want to,
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我才不要
06:19
I mean, it's like an intellectual stop-and-frisk.
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我是說，這活脫脫就是停下來搜身
06:21
You know what I'm saying? (Laughter)
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你懂我說啥？（掌聲）
06:22
I don't want to be standing up there just
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我才不想愣站在那裡
06:24
all getting interrogated and whatnot.
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被人審問莫名其妙的問題。
06:26
That's what I'm trying to leave behind
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那就是為什麼我想要留在紐約
06:27
in New York. You know what I'm saying?
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你懂我說啥？
06:29
So anyway, I would have to say
my top five songs right now
my top five songs right now
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不管怎樣，我得說現在我最喜愛的五首歌曲
06:32
is all out of my own personal catalogue,
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就是我個人專輯的所有歌曲
06:35
you know what I mean?
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你懂我說啥？
06:36
So if you want to know more about that,
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所以如果你想知道更多
06:38
you know what I'm saying,
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你懂我說啥
06:39
we could talk about the anti-piracy and all that,
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我們可以談談反盜版問題
06:41
but as far as I'm concerned,
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但對於我來說
06:43
you know, I believe in creative commons,
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你知道，我贊成知識共享
06:44
and I think it's really important that, you know,
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相當要緊的是，你知道
06:47
that needs to be sustainable and everything,
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這玩意必須能養活人
06:49
and I mean, as far as I'm concerned,
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我是說，對於我來說
06:52
I mean, this right here,
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我是說，就是在這裡
06:53
this environment, I would like to sustain.
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這個環境下，我要養家活口
06:55
You know what I mean?
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你懂我說啥？
06:57
But I'm just saying, if y'all are interested
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我不過是說，如果大家
06:59
in the top five songs, you need to holler at me.
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對這五首歌感興趣，你就得支持我
07:01
You know what I'm saying?
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你懂我說啥？
07:03
Aight? In the future or the present. Yeah.
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得了？無論是將來還是現在，沒錯
07:05
Enjoy the rest of it.
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請繼續享受。
07:07
Okay, next question.
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好，下一個問題
07:09
What do you got?
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你有什麼問題？
07:10
"How many of your organs have been 3D printed?"
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你身上有多少個器官已被3D打印？
07:12
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
07:16
Well I have to say that I don't know about
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（印度口音）我必須說，我珍惜不知道
07:18
how many of my organs
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我有多少個器官
07:20
have been 3-D printed as such,
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已經被3D打印過
07:22
but I can tell you that it is so challenging to me,
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但我可以跟你說，真正有挑戰性的是
07:25
kind of thinking about this concept of the future
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考慮『將來』這個概念
07:28
and that, you know, all around the world
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想到世界各地的父母
07:31
parents are kind of telling their small children,
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都跟他們的小孩說
07:35
please, you have to eat that, you know,
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『拜託，你一定要吃，你知不知道
07:36
I have slaved over a hot 3D printer all day
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我整天在高溫3D打印機旁賣命
07:39
so that you can have this meal.
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就是為了讓你吃上這一頓飯』
07:40
You know, that kind of thing.
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你知道，諸如此類的事情。
07:43
And of course now that we have changed, you know,
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當然，既然我們現在已經
07:46
from the global South, there is this total
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從南半球轉到北半球，
07:48
kind of perspective shift that is happening around the --
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就有某種視覺轉移到處蔓延——
07:51
You can't just say to them,
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你就是不可以跟他們說
07:53
well, there are starving children.
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現在有很多小孩在忍受飢餓
07:55
Well, it is the future.
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在未來
07:55
Nobody is starving anymore, thank God.
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不會再有人忍受飢餓，謝天謝地
07:59
But as you can tell I have kind of that optimism,
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但是你聽得出我比較樂觀
08:03
and I do hope that we can continue
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我真心希望
我們可以繼續做這3D打印
08:05
to kind of 3D print,
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08:07
well, let us just say I like to think that
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我願意想像
08:09
even in the future we will have the publication,
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即使在未來，我們會有文章發表
08:12
kind of, you know, all the food that's fit to print.
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你知道，所有的食物都可以打印出來。
08:15
But everybody, please do enjoy that,
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但是各位輕慢用
08:18
and again, I think that you do throw
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我得再次說，
08:20
a cracking good party here at TED.
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你們在TED的確有夠好玩的。
08:22
Thank you.
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謝謝
08:24
Next question. (Applause)
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下一個問題（掌聲）
08:28
What has changed? Okay, it's like,
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有什麼改變了？好，這就像，
08:35
I have to think about that.
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我得想想這個問題。
08:37
"What has changed now that women run the world?"
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『女人掌控的世界裡發生了什麼變化？』
08:42
First of all,
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首先
08:44
I really, like, I just want to say,
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我只想說
08:46
and my name is Bella,
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我叫貝拉
08:47
I just want to, like, identify myself,
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我只想認清自己
08:50
that, like, as a feminist,
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作為一位女權主義者
08:53
I, like, I really find that, like,
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我真心覺得
08:58
because I was born in the '90s,
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因為我出生在九十年代
09:01
and, like, there were a lot of women who were
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街上有大把大把的女人
09:06
as far as feminism was concerned,
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都是女權主義者
09:08
like, maybe they didn't understand that, like,
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或者他們不理解
09:11
a feminist like me, like,
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但是像我這樣的女權主義者，
09:14
I don't think it's required that you have to have
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我想是你不一定需要有
09:17
a certain kind of voice,
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某種發言權
09:19
or, like, a certain way of presenting yourself
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或者某種特定的方式
09:22
to be feminist, because I think that, like,
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來表現自己是個女權主義者，因為我認為
09:23
feminism can be really hot,
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女權主義也可以很性感
09:26
and I think actually that it's really vital and important.
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我認為這才是最重要的。
09:29
Like, the quotation I'm wearing is from, like,
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比如說我身上穿的這句話
09:32
Gloria Steinem,
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是葛羅莉亞·斯坦能的話
（二十世紀中婦女解放運動的代表人物）
（二十世紀中婦女解放運動的代表人物）
09:33
and, like, I'm named Bella for, like, Bella Abzug,
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而我的名字也是隨貝拉·阿布朱格而起的
09:37
who's, like, obviously, like, a really
important feminist from, like, history,
important feminist from, like, history,
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這個人也是女權主義歷史上的大人物
09:41
and like, I just think that those women, like,
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我就想，這些女性
09:45
really represent, like, that you can, like,
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真的很能說明
09:47
be vital and, like, amazing,
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你可以變得很重要，真的很神奇
09:50
like, a-mazing,
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超級神奇
09:52
and you don't have to wear, like,
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你也不用穿
09:53
an Eileen Fisher caftan,
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一件艾琳·費雪的褶皱背心
09:56
just to, like, prove that you are a feminist.
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來證明你是一位女權主義者
09:59
Like, not that there's anything wrong with that,
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穿這麼的衣服沒有錯
10:02
but my mom, she's like, like,
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但我媽媽，她就問
10:05
why do you have to wear pants that, like,
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你幹嘛非得穿褲子
10:09
objectify your body? I like my pants.
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穿褲子來體現自己的身體？我喜歡我的褲子
10:12
Like, I like my voice.
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我也喜歡我的聲音
10:15
Like, she's like, why do you have to talk like —
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她就說為什麼你非得這樣說話
10:17
Talk like what? Like, I'm expressing myself,
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說成這樣？我，我不過是在表達自己
10:21
and I think that we have to, like,
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我認為我們必須
10:22
reach out, like, not only across, like,
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不僅要跨越不同年代的女權主義者
10:25
the different generations of feminists,
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聯繫各個年代的女權主義者
10:29
but also across the, like, vocal ranges,
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還有跨越不同的聲域
10:34
so that, like, we,
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這樣我們才能——
10:37
because otherwise it's just, like,
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不然這樣不過是
10:39
restriculous within feminism,
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女權主義的局笑
10:42
which is just, like, a word that I created
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這是我創的一個詞
10:45
that means, like, so strict it's ridiculous.
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意思是，局限得可笑
10:48
So that's my feeling about that.
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這就是我的想法
10:50
You guys are a-mazing, by the way.
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你們這幫人真是超級神奇
10:53
Okay. Next question.
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好。下一個問題
10:56
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
10:58
["They've discovered a cure for cancer,
but not baldness? What's up with that?"]
but not baldness? What's up with that?"]
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『他們發現了癌症解藥，
但不治禿頭？到底是怎麼回事？』
但不治禿頭？到底是怎麼回事？』
11:03
Yeah, you know what,
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好，你們知道嗎？
11:05
so my name is Joseph Mancuso.
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（粗啞的聲音）我叫喬瑟·曼庫索
11:07
First of all, I just want to say that I appreciate
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首先我要說
11:10
that TED in general has been a pretty orderly crowd,
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我非常感謝TED組織了這麼一幫有秩序的傢伙
11:13
a pretty orderly group.
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非常有秩序
11:17
And, you know, I just have to say,
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你知道，我得說
11:19
the whole thing with baldness,
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這個禿頭的問題
11:21
and, you know, here's the thing.
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你知道，這就是問題。
11:26
As long as the woman, in my case --
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只要是女人，在我看來——
11:30
because it's a modern world,
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因為這是一個現代世界
11:31
do whatever you want to do, I don't
have any problem with anybody,
have any problem with anybody,
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你就可以做你想做的，跟任何人都沒有衝突
11:34
enjoy yourself, LGBTQLMNOP. All right?
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享受自我，LGBTQLMNOP（一個同/雙性戀社區），好吧？
11:39
But as far as I'm concerned,
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就我所知
11:42
attractiveness,
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比起魅力
11:43
women don't really care
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女人其實並不像人們想的那樣
11:45
as much as you think they do
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那麼在意那個，你懂的。
11:47
about the, you know.
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11:49
I mean, I remember hearing this woman.
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我是說，我記得有一個女人
11:50
She loved her husband, it was the sweetest thing.
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她很愛她的丈夫，真是羨煞旁人
11:53
It's a pretty young girl, you know?
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她又漂亮又年輕，你懂嗎？
11:55
And this guy's older.
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而這男人比她老
11:56
And, you know, she said she would love him
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你知道嗎，她說她愛她的男人
12:00
even if he had snow on the roof
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就算他頭上頂雪
12:02
or even if melted and disappeared altogether.
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就算頭頂的雪化了消失了，她也照樣愛。
12:06
As far as I'm concerned, it's about the love.
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就我所知，這就是愛。
12:08
Am I right, or am I right?
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我說對了，還是我說對了？
12:10
So that's it. That's it. That's it.
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所以就是這樣。就是這樣。就是這樣。
12:12
I don't got nothing more to say.
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我沒有更多要說的
12:13
Keep your noses clean.
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潔身自愛
12:15
All right, next question.
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好，下一個問題
12:19
"Have you ever tasted meat that's not lab grown?"
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『你曾否嚐過不是實驗室培養出來的肉？』
12:26
Um, well, I,
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（中文口音）呃，我
12:30
I want to start by saying
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我希望首先說
12:32
that this is a very difficult experience
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對於美籍華人來說
12:37
for a Chinese-American.
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這是相當困難的體驗
12:42
I don't know what to call myself now,
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我現在都不知道怎麼叫自己
12:45
because I have really my Chinese identity,
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因為我是千真萬確的中國人
12:49
but my kids, they are American-Chinese,
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但是我的小孩，他們就是華裔美國人
12:56
but it's difficult to try to express myself
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但是要試著表達自我，實在是很困難
13:00
in front of audience of people like this.
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特別是面前有這麼一群觀眾
13:06
But if had to give my opinion about meat,
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要是我必須得說說對肉的想法
13:13
I think first, the most important thing is to say
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我想首先，最重要的是
13:18
that we don't have to have perfect food,
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我們不是一定要有完美的食物
13:24
but maybe it can also not be poison.
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但是也許我們吃的食物也可以不是毒藥
13:29
Maybe we can have some middle ground for that.
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也許在這兩者之間可以有第三種選擇
13:34
But I will continue to consider this idea,
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我會繼續考慮這個問題
13:38
and I will report back maybe next year.
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或許下一年我會回來做報告
13:42
Next.
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下一個
13:44
Next. Next. (Applause)
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下一個、下一個 （掌聲）
13:47
"Will there ever be a post-racial world?"
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『會否有後種族世界？』
13:54
Thank you for having me.
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（聲音粗啞）謝謝大家邀請我過來
13:56
My name is Gary Weaselhead. Enjoy that.
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我叫咖哩·偉蘇海。好好享受。
14:01
I'm a member of the Blackfeet Nation.
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我是黒腳族國的一員
14:04
I'm also half Lakota, but that is my given name,
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我一半血統是拉科塔族，但那就是我的名字
14:08
and no, even though it would have seemed
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沒有，雖然看上去
14:11
like an obvious choice,
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會是必然的選擇
14:12
no, I did not go into politics.
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但是沒有，我沒有進入政治界
這幫觀眾不易對付
14:18
Tough crowd.
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14:19
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
14:20
But I always like to just let people know
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但是當有人問我關於種族之類的話題
14:23
when they ask about race or those kinds of things,
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我經常喜歡告訴他們
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you know, as a member of
the First Nations community,
the First Nations community,
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你懂的，作為第一國家社區的成員
14:32
you know, I'm probably
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你懂的，也許啊
14:36
not your typical guy.
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我不是你們想的典型人物
14:37
For example, in addition to being an activist,
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打個比方，我是一個激進分子，除此之外
14:40
I'm also a professional stand-up comedian.
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我還是一個專業的棟篤笑喜劇演員
14:44
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
14:48
And, you know, I'm most popular
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你懂的，我是頂受歡迎的
14:53
on college and university campuses.
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特別是在中學和大學校園
14:55
You know, whenever they want to do a diversity day,
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你懂的，他們要是哪一天想要搞個“多彩文化日”
15:00
or hey-we're-not-all-white week,
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或者辦個“我們並不全是白人”週
15:06
then I'm there. (Laughter)
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我就會到那裡（笑聲）
15:08
Do I think there will ever be a post-racial world?
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你問我未來會不會有一個後種族世界？
15:12
I think, really, I can't talk about race
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我想，的確，我不能談種族
15:15
without remembering that it is a construct
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一談種族我就想起
15:18
in certain respects,
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在某些方面的一些構建
15:20
but also that, you know,
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我就想到，你懂的
15:22
until we redress the wrongs of the past,
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我們不正視過去的過失
15:26
we're going to be turned around.
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就們就要原地踏步
15:28
I don't care if the present is the new future.
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我才不管你們說什麼現在就是新的未來
15:32
I think there's a lot of great people here at TED
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我想今天TED來了很多大人物
15:33
who are working to address that,
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他們不斷努力正視過去的過失
15:35
so with that, if anything I've said today
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既然這樣，如果我今天說了什麼
15:39
makes you feel uncomfortable, you're welcome.
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讓你覺得不舒服，不用謝。
15:42
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
15:45
I think we have time for one more.
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我想我們還有時間請多一位。
15:49
"What's the most popular diet these days?"
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『現在最流行的飲食是什麼？』
15:52
Who's here?
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誰在？
15:54
Okay, well, I'm just gonna answer this really fast,
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好，我會代表三四個人
15:56
as, like, three or four different people.
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簡短回答這個問題
15:58
I mean really fast.
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非常簡短
15:59
I'm just gonna let y'all know that,
as far as diet is concerned,
as far as diet is concerned,
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我只想跟大家說，說到飲食
16:02
if you don't love yourself inside,
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如果你不愛自己
16:04
there is no diet on this Earth
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地球上就沒有什麼飲食
16:07
that is going to make your behind small enough
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可以讓你的小屁股
16:10
for you to feel good,
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嬌小得讓你歡心
16:11
so just stop wasting your time.
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所以別再浪費時間了
16:15
I would just like to say as an African woman
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我只想說作為一個非洲女性
16:17
that I believe the diet that we need
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我相信我們所需的飲食
16:20
is really to remove the crazy belief
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就是真正改變一個瘋狂的想法：
16:24
that there is anything wrong
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一個漂亮的臀部
16:26
with a nice backside.
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其實是罪過。
16:27
No, I am teasing about that.
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這樣的想法很可笑
16:29
There is nothing wrong with a woman of size.
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女人臀部有多大，一點都不是問題
16:31
That is what I am trying to say.
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這就是我想說的
16:33
Women, celebrate your body, for God's sake.
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女人啊，為你的身材慶賀吧，老天爺。
16:36
Stop running around starving.
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不要再空着肚子到處跑來
16:38
You are making yourselves
and other people miserable.
and other people miserable.
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你這不過是在讓你自己和其他人痛苦。
16:42
Last answer.
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最後一個回答
16:46
So we're talking about what's the most popular diet?
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（紐約口音）我們在談什麼是最流行的飲食？
16:50
I'm gonna start off by telling y'all that
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我得先告訴你們
16:54
this is my first time here at TED.
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我第一次上來TED
16:58
I might not be your typical person
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我不是
你們經常在TED看到的那類人
17:01
you find on this stage.
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17:03
My dental work not as nice as some people.
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我的牙醫不像有些人的那麼好
17:07
But I made Sarah Jones promise
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但是我要薩拉·瓊斯保證
17:09
she gonna bring me this time,
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她這一次一定要帶我過來
17:11
'cause she didn't bring me before,
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因為她從來都沒帶我過來
17:16
but you know, I just want to say,
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但是你懂的，我只想說
17:18
there's a lot of things more important
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世界上有一大堆的事情
17:19
than counting calories,
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比數卡路里重要
17:22
and as somebody living on the streets in New York,
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作為一個紐約街頭流浪女人
17:25
and getting to come here,
hear y'all ideas worth spreading,
hear y'all ideas worth spreading,
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我來到這裡聽你們說
這些值得傳播的想法
這些值得傳播的想法
17:30
I want to tell y'all I believe in this idea
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我想告訴大家，我相信這個想法
17:32
that the present is the new future,
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我相信現在就是新的未來
17:34
that where you sit, you create everything
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你所到之處，處處生花
17:37
that's gonna come, for better or worse.
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創造力源源不斷
17:40
And for me, I think homeless
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對於我來說，我覺得“無家可歸”
17:43
is the wrong word for it anyway.
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不是正確的用詞。
17:45
You know, I might not have me no place
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你懂的，也許我就是找不到地方
17:47
to lay my head at night,
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讓我在晚上躺下我的腦袋
17:49
but that just makes me houseless.
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但這不過是無屋可歸
17:52
I have me a home. You do too.
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我有自己的家。你們也有自己的家
17:54
Find it and try to find yourself in there.
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找到這個地方，嘗試為自己找到一個家
17:59
Make sure you know,
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確保自己知道
18:00
it's not just about virtual reality in space.
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這不是單單的空間上的虛擬現實
18:05
That's wonderful, but it's also about
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這是很美妙的事情，
18:06
the actual reality here on Earth.
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這也是地球上的真實現實。
18:09
How are people living today?
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現今人們如何生活？
18:10
How can you be part of the solution?
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你怎樣才能成為解決方案的一分子？
18:13
Thank y'all for thinking about that
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謝謝大家
18:15
right now in the present moment
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現在就在這個時刻
18:16
to influence the future.
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考慮如何影響未來。
18:18
I appreciate it. Bye-bye.
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我非常感謝各位。再見。
18:20
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
18:23
Thank you all very, very much.
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謝謝大家，非常感謝
18:26
Thank you for trusting me, Chris.
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謝謝你相信我，克里斯
18:28
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Sarah Jones - Polymorphic playwrightTony Award-winning monologist, UNICEF ambassador, firebrand and FCC-fighting poet -- Sarah Jones assumes as many roles offstage as on.
Why you should listen
"Chameleon-like" barely describes the astonishing ease with which Sarah Jones slips in and out of the characters in her solo performances -- as many as fourteen personae in her Broadway hit Bridge & Tunnel. Critics marvel not only at her ability to perfectly mimic accents and mannerisms, but also to seemingly reshape her body, down to pupils and dimples, in the blink of an eye.
Jones' performances showcase a biting political awareness, and she has received commissions from Equality Now, the Kellogg Foundation and the National Immigration Forum to address issues of injustice and inequality. She is a UNICEF Goodwill Ambassador and has given multiple performances at the White House at the invitation of President and First Lady Obama. Jones is now at work on a new solo show called Sell/Buy/Date, commissioned by the Novo Foundation. She debuted material from it at TED2015. She is also working on a commission for Lincoln Center Theater and a television project based on her characters.
Sarah Jones | Speaker | TED.com