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Joseph Gordon-Levitt: How craving attention makes you less creative
喬瑟夫·高登李維: 渴望關注為什麼會讓你變得比較沒有創意？
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喬瑟夫·高登李維在他的演藝生涯中得到了很多的關注。但在過去十年，社交媒體爆紅，他也和我們其他人一樣上了癮—試圖吸引粉絲，結果卻感覺自己能力不足，創意也不見了。在這場令人耳目一新的演講中，他帶大家探究大型科技公司的注意力導向模式如何影響我們的創意，並分享了一種比吸引力更強大的感覺：集中注意力。
Joseph Gordon-Levitt - Actor, filmmaker, entrepreneur
As an actor, filmmaker and founder of the online community HITRECORD, Joseph Gordon-Levitt seeks to inspire creativity through collaboration. Full bio
As an actor, filmmaker and founder of the online community HITRECORD, Joseph Gordon-Levitt seeks to inspire creativity through collaboration. Full bio
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00:13
First of all, thank you
for your attention.
for your attention.
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首先，謝謝大家的關注。
00:16
There's nothing quite like
being in a room full of people like this,
being in a room full of people like this,
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在一間大廳中，滿是這樣的觀眾，
大家都把注意力給我，
是種很獨特的體驗。
是種很獨特的體驗。
00:20
where all of you are giving
your attention to me.
your attention to me.
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00:23
It's a powerful feeling, to get attention.
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獲得關注是一種很強大的感受。
00:28
I'm an actor, so I'm a bit
of an expert on, well, nothing, really.
of an expert on, well, nothing, really.
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我是演員，所以我對什麼
都懂得不深，嗯，真的。
都懂得不深，嗯，真的。
00:33
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
00:34
But I do know what it feels like
to get attention --
to get attention --
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但我確實知道被關注是什麼感覺——
00:37
I've been lucky in my life
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我這一生都很幸運，
一直能得到大家的關注。
一直能得到大家的關注。
00:38
to get a lot more
than my fair share of attention.
than my fair share of attention.
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00:40
And I'm grateful for that,
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我對此很感恩，
00:42
because like I said,
it's a powerful feeling.
it's a powerful feeling.
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就像我剛說的，
這是種很強大的感覺。
這是種很強大的感覺。
00:46
But there's another powerful feeling
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但，身為演員，我也很幸運
00:49
that I've also been lucky
to experience a lot as an actor.
to experience a lot as an actor.
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能夠體驗到另一種強大的感受。
00:52
And it's funny, it's sort of
the opposite feeling,
the opposite feeling,
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很有趣，它可以說
是種相反的感受，
是種相反的感受，
00:55
because it doesn't come
from getting attention.
from getting attention.
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因為它並不是來自得到關注。
00:57
It comes from paying attention.
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它來自專注。
01:00
When I'm acting,
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當我在演戲時，
01:02
I get so focused that I'm only
paying attention to one thing.
paying attention to one thing.
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我會非常專注到
只把注意力放在一件事上。
只把注意力放在一件事上。
01:07
Like when I'm on set
and we're about to shoot
and we're about to shoot
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比如，當我在片場，
我們準備要開拍，
我們準備要開拍，
01:10
and the first AD calls out "Rolling!"
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第一副導演喊
「Rolling（攝影機運轉）！」
「Rolling（攝影機運轉）！」
01:13
And then I hear "speed," "marker," "set,"
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接著，我聽到「速度」、
「場記板」、「就緒」，
「場記板」、「就緒」，
01:15
and then the director calls "Action!"
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接著，導演喊「開拍！」
01:18
I've heard that sequence so many times,
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我太常聽到這一連串術語，
01:20
like, it's become this Pavlovian
magic spell for me.
magic spell for me.
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對我來說就變成
像是魔法咒語一樣。
像是魔法咒語一樣。
01:23
"Rolling," "speed," "marker,"
"set" and "action."
"set" and "action."
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「攝影機運轉」、
「速度」、「場記板」、
「速度」、「場記板」、
「就緒」、「開拍」。
01:27
Something happens to me,
I can't even help it.
I can't even help it.
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我會發生一種無法控制的狀況。
01:30
My attention ...
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我的注意力……
會變狹窄。
01:33
narrows.
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01:34
And everything else in the world,
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世界上的所有其他一切，
01:36
anything else that might be bothering me
or might grab my attention,
or might grab my attention,
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任何可能會打擾我
或吸引我注意的東西，
或吸引我注意的東西，
01:42
it all goes away, and I'm just ... there.
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全都不見了，
我就只是……在當下。
我就只是……在當下。
01:48
And that feeling, that is what I love,
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我愛的就是那種感覺，
01:52
that, to me, is creativity.
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對我來說，那就是創意。
01:53
And that's the biggest reason
I'm so grateful that I get to be an actor.
I'm so grateful that I get to be an actor.
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那就是我很感謝我能夠
成為演員的最大理由。
成為演員的最大理由。
01:58
So, there's these two powerful feelings.
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所以，有這兩種很強大的感受。
02:01
There's getting attention
and paying attention.
and paying attention.
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獲得關注，以及專注當下。
02:06
Of course, in the last decade or so,
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當然，大約在前十年，
02:07
new technology has allowed
more and more people
more and more people
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新科技技術讓更多人
02:10
to have this powerful feeling
of getting attention.
of getting attention.
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嚐到獲得關注的感受。
02:14
For any kind of creative
expression, not just acting.
expression, not just acting.
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包括任何類型的創意
表現，不只是演戲。
表現，不只是演戲。
02:16
It could be writing or photography
or drawing, music -- everything.
or drawing, music -- everything.
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如寫作、攝影、
畫畫、音樂——什麼都行。
畫畫、音樂——什麼都行。
02:20
The channels of distribution
have been democratized,
have been democratized,
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銷售的管道被大眾化了，
02:23
and that's a good thing.
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那是好事。
02:27
But I do think there's
an unintended consequence
an unintended consequence
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但，我認為這發展對於
地球上任何有強烈慾望
地球上任何有強烈慾望
02:30
for anybody on the planet
with an urge to be creative --
with an urge to be creative --
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想要發揮創意的人，
會造成非預期的後果——
會造成非預期的後果——
02:35
myself included,
because I'm not immune to this.
because I'm not immune to this.
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包括我自己在內也不能倖免。
02:39
I think that our creativity
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我認為，我們的創意
02:42
is becoming more and more
of a means to an end --
of a means to an end --
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變得越來越像是達到目的的手段——
02:47
and that end is to get attention.
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那目的就是獲得關注。
02:51
And so I feel compelled to speak up
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所以我覺得我必須站出來說明，因為，
02:53
because in my experience,
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根據我的經驗，
02:56
the more I go after that powerful
feeling of paying attention,
feeling of paying attention,
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我越是去追求專注的強大感受，
02:59
the happier I am.
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我就越快樂。
03:01
But the more I go after
the powerful feeling of getting attention,
the powerful feeling of getting attention,
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但我越是去追求得到
關注的強大感受，
關注的強大感受，
我就越不快樂。
03:06
the unhappier I am.
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03:08
(One person claps)
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（一個人的掌聲）且——謝謝。
03:09
And -- thanks.
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03:11
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
03:13
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
03:18
So this is something
that goes way back for me.
that goes way back for me.
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對我來說，這要追溯到好久以前。
03:21
I think the first time I can remember
using my acting to get attention,
using my acting to get attention,
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在我的記憶中，我第一次
靠表演得到注意力，
靠表演得到注意力，
03:26
I was eight years old at summer camp.
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是我八歲參加夏令營的時候。
03:28
And I'd been going on auditions
for about a year by then,
for about a year by then,
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那時我已經有一年
左右的試鏡經驗了，
左右的試鏡經驗了，
03:31
and I'd been lucky to get some small parts
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我很幸運，在電視節目
和廣告中演出一些小角色，
和廣告中演出一些小角色，
03:33
in TV shows and commercials,
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03:35
and I bragged about it a lot,
that summer at camp.
that summer at camp.
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在夏令營時我常常吹噓這些事。
03:40
And at first, it worked.
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一開始，這麼做行得通。
03:42
The other kids gave me
a bunch of extra attention,
a bunch of extra attention,
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其他孩子給了我
大量的額外注意力，
大量的額外注意力，
03:45
because I had been on "Family Ties."
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因為我演過《天才家庭》。
03:48
That's a picture of me on "Family Ties."
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這是在《天才家庭》裡面的我。
（笑聲）
03:50
(Laughter)
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03:51
Then, the tide turned --
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接著，情勢轉變了——
我想我吹噓得太過頭了。
我想我吹噓得太過頭了。
03:52
I think I took it too far
with the bragging.
with the bragging.
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03:55
And then, the other kids
started to make fun of me.
started to make fun of me.
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接著，其他孩子開始嘲笑我。
03:59
I remember there was this one girl
I had a crush on, Rocky.
I had a crush on, Rocky.
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我還記得有一個女孩
叫洛基，我在暗戀她。
叫洛基，我在暗戀她。
04:04
Her name was Rachel, she went by Rocky.
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她的名字是瑞秋，小名叫洛基。
04:07
And she was beautiful, and she could sing,
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她很漂亮，且很會唱歌，
04:09
and I was smitten with her,
and I was standing there, bragging.
and I was standing there, bragging.
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我好喜歡她，
我就站在那裡，吹噓著。
我就站在那裡，吹噓著。
04:13
And she turned to me
and she called me a show-off.
and she called me a show-off.
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她轉向我，她說我是個愛現鬼。
04:16
Which I 100 percent deserved.
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我百分之百罪有應得。
04:19
But you know, it still really hurt.
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但，要知道，那真的很痛。
04:22
And ever since that summer,
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從那個夏天之後，
04:24
I've had a certain hesitance
to seek attention for my acting.
to seek attention for my acting.
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我都會猶豫要不要靠表演
來獲得大家的注意力。
來獲得大家的注意力。
有時，會有人問我：
04:29
Sometimes, people would ask me,
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04:31
"Wait a minute,
if you don't like the attention,
if you don't like the attention,
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「等等，若你不喜歡
備受關注，為何要當演員？」
備受關注，為何要當演員？」
04:33
then why are you an actor?"
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我就會：「因為演戲不是為了這個，
04:34
And I'd be like,
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04:36
"Because that's not what acting's about,
man, it's about the art."
man, it's about the art."
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是為藝術啊。」
他們就會說：「好，好，老兄。」
04:39
And they'd be like, "OK, OK, dude."
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04:41
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
04:43
And then Twitter came out.
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接著，推特出現了。
04:45
And I got totally hooked on it,
just like everybody else,
just like everybody else,
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和大家一樣，我完全迷上了它，
04:47
which made me into a complete hypocrite.
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讓我完全變成了偽君子。
因為，在那時，我完全
靠演戲來獲得關注。
靠演戲來獲得關注。
04:49
Because at that point,
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04:50
I was absolutely using my acting
to get attention.
to get attention.
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04:53
I mean, what, did I think
I was just getting all these followers
I was just getting all these followers
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我的意思是，什麼，
我以為是因為我的精采推文，
我以為是因為我的精采推文，
04:56
because of my brilliant tweets?
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才得到這麼多粉絲？
04:59
I actually did think that -- I was like --
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我當時真的那麼想——我心想——
05:01
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
05:02
"They don't just like me
because they saw me in 'Batman,'
because they saw me in 'Batman,'
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「他們不只是因為我演過
《蝙蝠俠》所以喜歡我，
《蝙蝠俠》所以喜歡我，
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they like what I have to say,
I've got a way with words."
I've got a way with words."
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他們喜歡我說的話，
我很能言善道。」
我很能言善道。」
05:08
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
05:09
And then in no time at all,
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接著，沒多久，
05:11
it started having an impact
on my dearly beloved creative process.
on my dearly beloved creative process.
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這就開始對於我心愛的
創意過程產生了影響。
創意過程產生了影響。
現在仍然有影響。
我試著不讓它造成影響。
我試著不讓它造成影響。
05:16
It still does.
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05:17
I try not to let it.
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05:19
But you know, I'd be sitting there,
like, reading a script.
like, reading a script.
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但，我就坐在那裡，
比如正在讀劇本。
比如正在讀劇本。
05:23
And instead of thinking,
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我並不是在想：
05:25
"How can I personally identify
with this character?"
with this character?"
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「我個人要如何
和這個角色產生連結？」
和這個角色產生連結？」
05:27
Or "How is the audience
going to relate to this story?"
going to relate to this story?"
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或者「觀眾要如何才能
和這個故事有所連結？」
和這個故事有所連結？」
05:30
I'm like, "What are people going to say
about this movie on Twitter?"
about this movie on Twitter?"
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我想的卻是：「大家在推特上
會怎麼說這部電影？」
會怎麼說這部電影？」
05:33
And "What will I say back
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及「我要怎麼回應
才夠好、夠犀利，
才夠好、夠犀利，
05:35
that will be good and snarky enough
to get a lot of retweets,
to get a lot of retweets,
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能得到許多回推，
但又不要太嚴厲，
但又不要太嚴厲，
05:38
but not too harsh,
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因為人們喜歡吐槽，
但我不想被取消追蹤？」
但我不想被取消追蹤？」
05:39
because people love to get offended,
and I don't want to get canceled?"
and I don't want to get canceled?"
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我腦中盡是這些想法，
05:42
These are the thoughts that enter my mind
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特別是當我本該讀劇本、
努力當一個藝術家時。
努力當一個藝術家時。
05:44
when I'm supposed to be reading a script,
trying to be an artist.
trying to be an artist.
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我來這裡並不是要告訴各位
科技是創意的敵人。
科技是創意的敵人。
05:47
And I'm not here to tell you
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05:49
that technology
is the enemy of creativity.
is the enemy of creativity.
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我不這麼想。
05:51
I don't think that.
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科技只是工具。
05:52
I think tech is just a tool.
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它有潛力可以促進
前所未有的人類創意。
前所未有的人類創意。
05:54
It has the potential to foster
unprecedented human creativity.
unprecedented human creativity.
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05:58
Like, I even started
an online community called HITRECORD,
an online community called HITRECORD,
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比如，我甚至成立了一個
線上社群叫做 HITRECORD，
線上社群叫做 HITRECORD，
在那裡，來自全世界的人
能合作進行各種創意計畫，
能合作進行各種創意計畫，
06:01
where people all over the world
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06:03
collaborate on all kinds
of creative projects,
of creative projects,
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所以我不認為社交媒體、手機，
06:05
so I don't think that social media
or smartphones or any technology
or smartphones or any technology
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或任何技術本身是有問題的。
06:10
is problematic in and of itself.
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06:14
But ...
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但……
06:16
if we're going to talk
about the perils of creativity
about the perils of creativity
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如果我們要討論，當創意變成是
獲得關注的手段時是多危險的事，
06:19
becoming a means to get attention,
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06:21
then we have to talk about
the attention-driven business model
the attention-driven business model
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那麼，我們就必須要談到
現今大型社交媒體公司
現今大型社交媒體公司
採用了一些注意力導向的
商業模式，對吧？
商業模式，對吧？
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of today's big social media
companies, right?
companies, right?
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06:28
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
06:31
This will be familiar territory
for some of you,
for some of you,
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在座有些人可能很熟悉這個領域，
但，這個問題很重要：
但，這個問題很重要：
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but it's a really relevant question here:
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社交媒體平台，
如 IG，要如何賺錢？
如 IG，要如何賺錢？
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How does a social media platform
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like, for example, Instagram, make money?
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06:40
It's not selling
a photo-sharing service --
a photo-sharing service --
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不是銷售照片分享服務——
那部分是免費的。
那部分是免費的。
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that part's free.
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那它銷售的是什麼？是注意力。
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So what is it selling?
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It's selling attention.
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它在把使用者的注意力
銷售給廣告商。
銷售給廣告商。
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It's selling the attention
of its users to advertisers.
of its users to advertisers.
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06:48
And there's a lot of discussion right now
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現在有許多討論
06:50
about how much attention we're all giving
to things like Instagram,
to things like Instagram,
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都是在談我們大家給了
IG 這類平台多少注意力，
IG 這類平台多少注意力，
但，我的問題是：IG 怎麼能
得到這麼多注意力？
得到這麼多注意力？
06:54
but my question is:
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How is Instagram getting
so much attention?
so much attention?
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06:59
We get it for them.
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是我們幫它取得的。
07:02
Anytime somebody posts on Instagram,
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每當有人在 IG 上發表貼文，
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they get a certain amount of attention
from their followers,
from their followers,
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他們就會從追隨者那邊
得到一定量的關注，
得到一定量的關注，
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whether they have a few followers
or a few million followers.
or a few million followers.
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不論是只有幾個追隨者
或有幾百萬個追隨者。
或有幾百萬個追隨者。
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And the more attention you're able to get,
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而你能得到越多關注，
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the more attention
Instagram is able to sell.
Instagram is able to sell.
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IG 能銷售的關注就越多。
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So it's in Instagram's interest
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就 IG 的利益來說，
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for you to get as much
attention as possible.
attention as possible.
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盡可能得到你越多注意力越好。
07:22
And so it trains you
to want that attention,
to want that attention,
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所以 IG 會訓練你，讓你渴望得到關注。
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to crave it, to feel stressed out
when you're not getting enough of it.
when you're not getting enough of it.
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當你獲得的關注不夠時，
你就會覺得很有壓力。
你就會覺得很有壓力。
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Instagram gets its users addicted
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IG 讓它的使用者上癮，
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to the powerful feeling
of getting attention.
of getting attention.
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對這種得到關注的強大感受上癮。
07:38
And I know we all joke, like,
"Oh my God, I'm so addicted to my phone,"
"Oh my God, I'm so addicted to my phone,"
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我們都會這樣開玩笑：「喔，天啊，
我對我的手機上癮了。」
我對我的手機上癮了。」
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but this is a real addiction.
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但這是一種真正的上癮。
背後有完整的科學。
背後有完整的科學。
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There's a whole science to it.
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07:44
If you're curious, I recommend
the work of Jaron Lanier,
the work of Jaron Lanier,
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如果你想知道，
我建議看看傑倫·拉尼爾、
我建議看看傑倫·拉尼爾、
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Tristan Harris, Nir Eyal.
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特里斯坦·哈里斯、尼爾·艾歐的作品。
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But here's what I can tell you.
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但，我能告訴各位的是：
07:52
Being addicted to getting attention
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對於「得到注意力」上癮
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is just like being addicted
to anything else.
to anything else.
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和對其他事物上癮是一樣的。
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It's never enough.
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永遠都會嫌不夠。
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You start out and you're thinking,
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你開始上癮，你心想：
08:01
"If only I had 1,000 followers,
that would feel amazing."
that would feel amazing."
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「我若能有一千個追隨者，
感覺會超棒。」
感覺會超棒。」
08:05
But then you're like, "Well,
once I get to 10,000 followers,"
once I get to 10,000 followers,"
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但，接著你會想：「一旦
我能得到一萬個追隨者，」
我能得到一萬個追隨者，」
08:09
and, "Once I get to 100 --
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然後「一旦我得到一百——
08:11
Once I get to a million followers,
then I'll feel amazing."
then I'll feel amazing."
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一旦我有一百萬個
追隨者，感覺會超棒。」
追隨者，感覺會超棒。」
08:18
So I have 4.2 million
followers on Twitter --
followers on Twitter --
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我在推特上有
四千兩百萬個追隨者——
四千兩百萬個追隨者——
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it's never made me feel amazing.
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那從來沒有讓我感覺很棒。
08:23
I'm not going to tell you
how many I have on Instagram,
how many I have on Instagram,
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我不打算告訴各位
我在 IG 上有多少追隨者，
我在 IG 上有多少追隨者，
08:26
because I feel genuine shame
about how low the number is,
about how low the number is,
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因為我真的覺得
那數字低得很可恥，
那數字低得很可恥，
08:29
because I joined Instagram
after "Batman" came out.
after "Batman" came out.
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因為我在《蝙蝠俠》
推出後加入 IG。
推出後加入 IG。
08:32
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
08:35
And I search other actors,
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我搜尋了其他演員，
我發現他們的數字比我的高，
我發現他們的數字比我的高，
08:37
and I see that their number
is higher than mine,
is higher than mine,
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08:39
and it makes me feel
terrible about myself.
terrible about myself.
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那讓我覺得自己很糟糕。
08:42
Because the follower count
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因為追隨者數目
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makes everybody feel terrible
about themselves.
about themselves.
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會讓每個人覺得自己很糟糕。
08:47
That feeling of inadequacy
is what drives you to post,
is what drives you to post,
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那種不足感，會讓你想要貼文，
08:50
so you can get more attention,
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讓你得到更多關注，
08:51
and then that attention that you get
is what these companies sell,
is what these companies sell,
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接著，你得到的關注
就成了這些公司的產品，
就成了這些公司的產品，
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that's how they make their money.
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它們就是這樣賺錢的。
08:58
So there is no amount
of attention you can get
of attention you can get
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所以不論你得到多少關注，
09:01
where you feel like you've arrived,
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你都不會覺得滿足，
09:04
and you're like, "Ah, I'm good now."
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說：「啊，我現在這樣就好了。」
09:07
And of course, there are a lot of actors
who are more famous than I am,
who are more famous than I am,
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當然，有很多演員比我還出名，
粉絲數目也比我多，
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have more followers than I do,
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但我敢說，他們也會
告訴各位同樣的話。
告訴各位同樣的話。
09:13
but I bet you they would tell you
the same thing.
the same thing.
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如果你的創意是被
獲得關注的慾望所驅使，
獲得關注的慾望所驅使，
09:15
If your creativity is driven
by a desire to get attention,
by a desire to get attention,
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09:20
you're never going to be
creatively fulfilled.
creatively fulfilled.
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那你永遠不會有創作的成就感。
09:25
But I do have some good news.
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但，我有些好消息。
09:28
There is this other powerful feeling.
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有另一種強大的感受。
你可以把你的注意力
做另一種用途，
做另一種用途，
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Something else you can do
with your attention
with your attention
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09:34
besides letting a giant tech company
control it and sell it.
control it and sell it.
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而不是讓大型科技公司
控制它、銷售它。
控制它、銷售它。
09:38
This is that feeling I was talking about,
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那就是我先前談的那種感受，
我熱愛演戲的原因——
我熱愛演戲的原因——
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why I love acting so much --
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就是把注意力放在一件事情上。
09:41
it's being able to pay attention
to just one thing.
to just one thing.
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09:47
Turns out there's actually
some science behind this too.
some science behind this too.
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結果發現這背後
也是有科學根據的。
也是有科學根據的。
心理學家和神經科學家——
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Psychologists and neuroscientists --
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09:52
they study a phenomenon they call flow,
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他們研究所謂的
「心流（flow）」，
「心流（flow）」，
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which is this thing that happens
in the human brain
in the human brain
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它是大腦中發生的一種現象，
當你把注意力放在一件事情上，
09:57
when someone pays attention
to just one thing,
to just one thing,
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09:59
like something creative,
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如創作類的事情，
10:00
and manages not to get distracted
by anything else.
by anything else.
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且能做到不要被任何
其它事分心時就會發生。
其它事分心時就會發生。
10:04
And some say the more regularly
you do this, the happier you'll be.
you do this, the happier you'll be.
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有人說，你越常這麼做，
你就會越快樂。
你就會越快樂。
10:10
Now I'm not a psychologist
or a neuroscientist.
or a neuroscientist.
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我不是心理學家或神經科學家。
10:13
But I can tell you,
for me, that is very true.
for me, that is very true.
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但我可以告訴各位，
對我來說真的就是如此。
對我來說真的就是如此。
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It's not always easy, it's hard.
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不見得都很容易，這很困難。
10:19
To really pay attention
like this takes practice,
like this takes practice,
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要像這樣真正地集中注意力
是需要練習的，
是需要練習的，
10:22
everybody does it their own way.
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每個人有自己的方式。
10:23
But if there's one thing I can share
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但，若要我分享幫助我專注，
10:25
that I think helps me focus
and really pay attention, it's this:
and really pay attention, it's this:
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幫助我真正能
集中注意力的，那就是：
集中注意力的，那就是：
10:30
I try not to see other creative
people as my competitors.
people as my competitors.
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我試著不要把其他創作者
視為我的競爭者。
視為我的競爭者。
10:36
I try to find collaborators.
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我試著去找合作對象。
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Like, if I'm acting in a scene,
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比如，如果我在演一個橋段。
10:40
if I start seeing the other actors
as my competitors, and I'm like,
as my competitors, and I'm like,
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如果我開始把其他演員
視為我的競爭者，心想：
視為我的競爭者，心想：
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"God, they're going to get
more attention than I am,
more attention than I am,
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「天，他們會取得
比我更多的注意力，
比我更多的注意力，
大家會談論他們的演出，
不是談我的」——
不是談我的」——
10:46
people are going to be talking
about their performance more than mine" --
about their performance more than mine" --
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我就失焦了。
10:49
I've lost my focus.
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那個橋段我大概也會演得很爛。
10:51
And I'm probably
going to suck in that scene.
going to suck in that scene.
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10:53
But when I see the other actors
as collaborators,
as collaborators,
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但，若我能把其他演員
視為合作對象，
視為合作對象，
10:57
then it becomes almost easy to focus,
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那麼，要專注就很容易，
11:01
because I'm just paying attention to them.
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因為我只要專注在他們身上。
我不用去想我要做什麼——
我針對他們所做的來反應，
我針對他們所做的來反應，
11:04
And I don't have to think
about what I'm doing --
about what I'm doing --
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11:06
I react to what they're doing,
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他們對我所做的來反應，
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they react to what I'm doing,
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我們就能夠一起保持
融入在這個橋段中。
融入在這個橋段中。
11:09
and we can kind of
keep each other in it together.
keep each other in it together.
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11:12
But I don't want you to think
it's only actors on a set
it's only actors on a set
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但，我不希望各位覺得
只有片場演員才能這樣子合作。
只有片場演員才能這樣子合作。
11:15
that can collaborate in this way.
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11:16
I could be in whatever
kind of creative situation.
kind of creative situation.
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在任何創作情境當中都有可能，
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It could be professional,
could be just for fun.
could be just for fun.
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可能是專業的情境，
可能只是好玩的情境。
可能只是好玩的情境。
11:22
I could be collaborating with people
I'm not even in the same room with.
I'm not even in the same room with.
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我有可能和身在其他地方的人合作。
11:26
In fact, some of my favorite
things I've ever made,
things I've ever made,
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事實上，有些我最喜歡的成果
是和我沒有實際見過面的人合作的。
11:29
I made with people
that I never physically met.
that I never physically met.
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順道一提，對我來說，
這就是網路的美好之處。
這就是網路的美好之處。
11:31
And by the way,
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11:32
this, to me, is the beauty
of the internet.
of the internet.
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11:35
If we could just stop
competing for attention,
competing for attention,
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如果我們能夠停止爭奪注意力，
11:38
then the internet becomes
a great place to find collaborators.
a great place to find collaborators.
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那麼網路就會變成
找到合作對象的好地方。
找到合作對象的好地方。
11:43
And once I'm collaborating
with other people,
with other people,
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一旦我開始和其他人合作，
11:48
whether they're on set,
or online, wherever,
or online, wherever,
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不論是在片場、線上、任何地方，
11:51
that makes it so much easier
for me to find that flow,
for me to find that flow,
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對我來說，找到那心流
變得容易許多，
變得容易許多，
11:54
because we're all just paying attention
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因為我們只要集中注意力，
11:57
to the one thing
that we're making together.
that we're making together.
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專注在我們共同進行的
那一件事情上就可以了。
那一件事情上就可以了。
12:00
And I fell like I'm part
of something larger than myself,
of something larger than myself,
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我覺得我是某個比我自己
更大的大我的一部分，
更大的大我的一部分，
12:03
and we all sort of shield each other
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我們都會協助彼此
12:06
from anything else that might
otherwise grab our attention,
otherwise grab our attention,
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排除其他可能會搶走
我們注意力的事物，
我們注意力的事物，
12:09
and we can all just be there.
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我們全都能做到
人在那裡，心也在那裡。
人在那裡，心也在那裡。
12:15
At least that's what works for me.
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至少那對我來說是有用的。
12:19
Sometimes.
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有時啦，不見得總是有用。
12:20
Sometimes -- it doesn't always work.
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12:22
Sometimes, I still totally get
wrapped up in that addictive cycle
wrapped up in that addictive cycle
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有時，我也會整個陷入那種
想要獲得關注的上癮循環裡。
想要獲得關注的上癮循環裡。
12:25
of wanting to get attention.
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12:27
I mean, like, even right now,
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就連現在，
12:29
can I honestly say there's not
some part of me here who's like,
some part of me here who's like,
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我必須要誠實說，
某部分的我也在心想：
某部分的我也在心想：
12:33
"Hey, everybody, look at me,
I'm giving a TED Talk!"
I'm giving a TED Talk!"
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「嘿，各位，看看我，
我在 TED 演講哪！」
我在 TED 演講哪！」
12:35
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
12:37
There is -- there's, you know, some part.
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總是有某個這樣的部分。
12:40
But I can also honestly say
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但我也要誠實說，
12:42
that this whole creative process
of writing and giving this talk,
of writing and giving this talk,
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撰寫講稿，來這裡演說的
這整個創作過程，
這整個創作過程，
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it's been a huge opportunity
for me to focus
for me to focus
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對我來說是個很大的
機會，讓我能專注，
機會，讓我能專注，
12:48
and really pay attention to something
I care a lot about.
I care a lot about.
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真正把注意力放在
我非常關心的事情上。
我非常關心的事情上。
12:52
So regardless of how much attention
I do or don't get as a result,
I do or don't get as a result,
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所以，不論最後我得到
或沒得到多少關注，
或沒得到多少關注，
我都很高興我做了這件事。
12:58
I'm happy I did it.
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13:00
And I'm grateful to all of you
for letting me.
for letting me.
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我也很感激各位讓我來演講。
13:04
So thank you, that's it,
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謝謝，就這樣了，
13:06
you can give your attention
to someone else now.
to someone else now.
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現在各位可以把
你們的注意力給別人了。
你們的注意力給別人了。
13:08
Thanks again.
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再次感謝。
13:10
(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Joseph Gordon-Levitt - Actor, filmmaker, entrepreneurAs an actor, filmmaker and founder of the online community HITRECORD, Joseph Gordon-Levitt seeks to inspire creativity through collaboration.
Why you should listen
In Joseph Gordon-Levitt's own words: "I'm lucky. I found a creative outlet young. I started working as an actor when I was six years old. When I was 19, I quit acting to go to college. And a few years later (yes, I dropped out) when I tried to get back into it, nobody would give me a part. That really hurt.
"I realized my old creative outlet wouldn't work anymore, because it depended too much on other people. I had to be able to express myself on my own. And my personal metaphor for this was the REC button. 'HIT RECORD,' I'd say to myself. Push the button. Get started. Make something.
"What started as a private rallying cry became a humble website, which grew into a worldwide community of hundreds of thousands, an Emmy-winning production company, and now a new collaborative media platform. Irony is, today's HITRECORD is not about expressing yourself on your own. What we've found over the years is that the best way for many people to find their creative outlet is through collaborating with others."
Joseph Gordon-Levitt | Speaker | TED.com