Paula Stone Williams and Jonathan Williams: The story of a parent's transition and a son's redemption
Paula Stone Williams e Jonathan Williams: La storia della transizione di un genitore e della redenzione di un figlio
Paula Stone Williams is a pastor, counselor, speaker, LGBTQ ambassador and gender equity advocate. Full bioJonathan Williams - Religious leader, storyteller
Jonathan Williams likes to tell stories and throw parties, so he started a church that allowed him to do both. Full bio
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di un'importante no profit religiosa,
of a large, religious nonprofit,
churches in America,
nelle più grandi chiese d'America,
su 70 mercati diversi,
più di ogni altra cosa
di quanto sarebbe diventato difficile.
that was going to become.
or four years of age
avrei perso tutto.
I would lose everything.
not only sets you free,
che la verità non libererà solo voi,
gran parte della tua vita
religioso conservatore,
religious world,
non è il massimo per la tua carriera.
is not all that great for your career.
every single one of my jobs.
persi tutti i lavori che avevo.
ma fu dura.
e colleghi mi respinsero,
and coworkers had rejected me;
"You really messed with me."
"Beh, mettiti in fila, allora."
di maschio alfa gentile."
of an alpha male who was gentle."
was it for my own son?
non era un'opzione.
was not an option.
mi portarono una birra
brought me craft beer
which, in my estimation,
per la Festa del Papà.
quella spirale di rifiuto,
this spiral of denial,
a riconoscere che tutto era cambiato.
that everything had changed.
and mourning and sadness,
nel dolore, nel lutto e nella tristezza
in una riconciliazione.
per quando tuo padre, a più di 30 anni,
of 30 plus years decides to transition
comes from choosing the narrow path.
il sentiero più stretto.
io, mia moglie e Paula
out and met me at a hotel in New York,
and this woman answered.
e il cameriere prese gli ordini.
came to take our order.
al nostro tavolo ed era mia moglie,
at the table and it was my wife,
che in realtà ce n'erano due.
women at the table.
Non ricordo.
everything about me,
che sapeva tutto di me
September in New York,
dopo la Festa dei lavoratori a New York.
after Labor Day in New York.
che portavo i jeans sbagliati.
here I stand in my wrong jeans.
blue eyes I love so much,
occhi azzurri che adoro
back at me in disbelief.
going to be easy."
di una famiglia cambia sesso,
whether they want to or not.
che lo vogliano o no.
"That's messed up, I'm out of here."
"Che cosa assurda, me ne vado."
was going to work.
non avrebbe funzionato nessun estremo.
on to the road of trials.
l'abbonamento per i New York Mets,
the Mets season tickets --
un giro in bici a Heckscher Park
through Heckscher Park
that I now know he wished weren't hers.
che ora so che non voleva avere.
senza chiedertelo,
a tifare per i Mets
me to be a Mets fan
alle grandi delusioni della vita.
for life's really big disappointments.
con bacon, uova e formaggio
sandwiches every Saturday
di bagel di Long Island.
che non voleva vivere,
he didn't want to live,
perché io potessi avere un padre.
that I could have a dad.
if my dad had ever existed.
se mio padre fosse mai esistito.
consciously, intentionally --
consapevolmente, intenzionalmente,
e la sua trasformazione era completa,
and her transformation was complete,
another choice to heed my father's advice
un altro viaggio, un'altra scelta
e continuare su quel sentiero stretto.
I believe there is a God.
credo che Dio esista.
per l'autostrada del New Jersey.
on the New Jersey Turnpike.
when your soul is in the wrong body.
si trova nel corpo sbagliato.
non era nulla di personale.
it was nothing personal.
perché la tribù possa sopravvivere,
for the tribe to survive,
sono le minoranze sessuali.
are the enemy;
è stato rapido e definitivo.
lasciò il suo lavoro da insegnante
left his job teaching in West Philadelphia
to find an answer.
per avere una risposta.
the bridge's construction began.
della costruzione del ponte.
di malattia da decompressione.
from decompression sickness.
il capo ingegnere sostituto
executive engineer
of that Brooklyn Bridge.
all'ombra del ponte di Brooklyn.
che i suoi amici della chiesa
that her friends in church
nella sua transizione,
di una nuova chiesa di Brooklyn.
of a new church in Brooklyn.
di persone progressiste,
of forward-thinking people,
a chiese molto conservative.
to really conservative churches.
l'esistenza della nostra chiesa.
our own church's livelihood.
between these warring worlds.
a questi due mondi in conflitto.
nel tuo vecchio mondo.
in your old world.
un ramoscello d'ulivo per me?"
an olive branch for my sake?"
any idea what it feels like
di come ci si sente
chi sei veramente
to your true friends
down that narrow path through nights,
su quel sentiero stretto e buio,
other than her true self.
dalla sua vera se stessa.
della sua sofferenza, del suo turbamento.
his suffering, his grief, his confusion.
to that conversation,
in quella conversazione
redemptive going on,
di redenzione nelle sue parole,
ma anche di possibilità,
e anche di più.
incontrassero la loro... Paula.
to meet their -- Paula.
al tavolo da pranzo
at the dining room table,
fece una domanda precisa.
a single, confident question.
e le risate cessarono,
and the laughter subsided,
il nonno nella loro stanza,
back into their room
of my granddaughters at my home,
tutte e cinque le mie nipoti a casa mia,
delle Montagne Rocciose.
of the Rocky Mountains.
nelle fredde acque del fiume
in the cool waters of the river
girls said to me,
a fare tubing sul fiume?"
tubing on the river?"
che ci sia tuo padre per farlo.
gets here for that.
that ought to be his call."
decision you would.
to find the narrow path
a trovare quel sentiero stretto
the long, dark night,
durante la notte lunga e oscura,
che i bambini tranquilli,
that a child who is secure,
di una musica che sentono solo loro.
that only they can hear.
who is safe and unharmed
met their GrandPaula,
con le mie figlie,
mentre camminavano per strada.
down the street,
oscillavano all'impazzata.
because you always do --
lo fai sempre...
dare un morso alla ciambella,
take a bite of her doughnut,
di sfide e difficoltà.
of burdens and challenges.
to see this through to redemption.
che saremmo arrivati alla redenzione.
e mangiavano le ciambelle
and eating their doughnuts,
a nessuno in particolare:
path of redemption,
della redenzione,
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Paula Stone Williams - Religious leader, counselor, advocatePaula Stone Williams is a pastor, counselor, speaker, LGBTQ ambassador and gender equity advocate.
Why you should listen
The Reverend Dr. Paula Stone Williams knows the truth will set you free, but only after it upends your carefully constructed narrative. Her devotion to authenticity caused her to leave her comfort zone as a nationally known religious leader and follow her heart to transition from Paul to Paula. She lost all of her jobs and most of her friends. Williams also discovered the massive differences between life as a male and as a female in America.
Williams is the pastor of preaching and worship at Left Hand Church in Longmont, Colorado, a pastoral counselor with RLT Pathways and a sought-after speaker to corporations, government agencies, universities and religious institutions on issues of gender equity and LGBTQ advocacy. She has been featured in the New York Times, the Denver Post, New Scientist, Radio New Zealand, Colorado Public Radio and The Huffington Post. Her TEDxMileHigh talk on gender equity has had more than one million views.
Paula Stone Williams | Speaker | TED.com
Jonathan Williams - Religious leader, storyteller
Jonathan Williams likes to tell stories and throw parties, so he started a church that allowed him to do both.
Why you should listen
After teaching fifth grade in West Philadelphia for seven years, Jonathan Williams decided to join the family business and become a pastor like his father. He started a church in Brooklyn, NY, and just three months later faced a religious and personal reckoning when his father announced her transition from male to female. Williams decided that his church would become an advocate for the LGBTQ+ community, forever shifting the landscape in his personal and professional life.
Williams continues to lead Forefront Church in Brooklyn. In January 2019, he released his book, She's My Dad: A Father’s Transition and a Son's Redemption, published by Westminster John Knox Press. Williams has told his story to the New York Times, Huffington Post, Christian Standard Magazine, Faithfully Magazine and Rebel Storytellers.
Jonathan Williams | Speaker | TED.com