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Joshua Walters: On being just crazy enough
Joshua Walters: Pamišęs pakankamai
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TED Full Spectrum perklausose komediantas Joshua Walters, kuriam diagnozuotas bipolinis afektinis sutrikimas, yra ties riba tarp psichinio sutrikimo ir psichinio "meistriškumo". Šia linksma, sukeliančia minčių kalba jis klausia: kaip išlaikyti teisingą proporciją tarp pamišimo nuvijimo vaistais ir tarp mėgavimosi maniakine kūrybos jėga?
Joshua Walters - Comedian, activist
Joshua Walters is a bipolar comedian whose work explores language, creativity, beatboxing and madness ... Full bio
Joshua Walters is a bipolar comedian whose work explores language, creativity, beatboxing and madness ... Full bio
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My name is Joshua Walters.
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Mano vardas Joshua Walters.
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I'm a performer.
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Esu atlikėjas.
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(Beatboxing)
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(Bytboksas)
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(Laughter)
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(Juokas)
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(Applause)
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(Plojimai)
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But as far as being a performer,
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Bet esu ne tik atlikėjas,
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I'm also diagnosed
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man taip pat diagnozuotas
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bipolar.
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bipolinis afektinis sutrikimas.
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I reframe that as a positive
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Laikau tai teigiamu dalyku,
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because the crazier I get onstage,
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nes kuo labiau pakvaištu ant scenos,
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the more entertaining I become.
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tuo daugiau tampu įdomus ir linksminantis.
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When I was 16 in San Francisco,
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Kai buvau šešiolikos San Franciske
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I had my breakthrough manic episode
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man buvo pirmasis manijos proveržis,
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in which I thought I was Jesus Christ.
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kurio metu laikiau save Jėzum Kristum.
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Maybe you thought that was scary,
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Gal jūs galvojate, kad tai baisu,
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but actually there's no amount of drugs you can take
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bet, tiesa sakant, nėra tokio narkotikų kiekio,
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that can get you as high
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kuris jus tiek apkvaišintų,
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as if you think you're Jesus Christ.
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kad galvotumėte, jog esat Jėzus Kristus.
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(Laughter)
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(Juokas)
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I was sent to a place,
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Mane nusiuntė į vieną vietelę,
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a psych ward,
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į psichiatrinę ligoninę,
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and in the psych ward,
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o psichiatrinėje
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everyone is doing their own one-man show.
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kiekvienas yra šoumenas.
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(Laughter)
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(Juokas)
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There's no audience like this
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Nėra šitokios publikos,
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to justify their rehearsal time.
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kuri paliudytų jų repeticijų laiką.
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They're just practicing.
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Jie tik treniruojasi.
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One day they'll get here.
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Vieną dieną jie paklius čia.
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Now when I got out,
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Kai mane išrašė,
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I was diagnosed
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psichiatras
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and I was given medications
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mane diagnozavo
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by a psychiatrist.
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ir davė vaistų.
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"Okay, Josh, why don't we give you some --
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"Gerai, Josh, kodėl mums tau nedavus
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why don't we give you some Zyprexa.
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kodėl mums tau nedavus šiek tiek Zyprexa.
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Okay? Mmhmm?
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Gerai? Mmm?
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At least that's what it says on my pen."
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Bent jau ant mano tušinuko toks užrašas."
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(Laughter)
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(Juokas)
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Some of you are in the field, I can see.
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Matau, kai kurie iš jūsų iš šios srities.
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I can feel your noise.
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Jaučiu jūsų klegesį.
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The first half of high school
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Iš pradžių vidurinėje mokykloje
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was the struggle of the manic episode,
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grūmiausi su manijos epizodu,
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and the second half
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o antrojoje mokslų pusėje
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was the overmedications of these drugs,
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tiesiog persigydžiau tais vaistais
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where I was sleeping through high school.
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ir 'pramiegojau' mokyklą.
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The second half was just one big nap, pretty much, in class.
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Antroji pusė tebuvo vienas didelis pogulis klasėje.
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When I got out
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Kai ištrūkau,
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I had a choice.
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turėjau pasirinkimą.
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I could either deny
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Galėjau arba neigti
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my mental illness
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savo psichinį sutrikimą
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or embrace
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arba priimti
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my mental skillness.
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savo psichinį meistriškumą.
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(Bugle sound)
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(Trimito garsas)
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There's a movement going on right now
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Dabar plinta judėjimas,kuris
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to reframe mental illness as a positive --
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bando pateikti psichinį sutrikimą kaip teigiamą dalyką,
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at least the hypomanic edge part of it.
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bent jau jo hipomanijos dalį.
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Now if you don't know what hypomania is,
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Jei nežinot, kas yra hipomanija,
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it's like an engine that's out of control,
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tai čia kaip nevaldomas motoras,
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maybe a Ferrari engine, with no breaks.
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gal Ferrari, be stabdžių.
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Many of the speakers here, many of you in the audience,
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Daugelis klausytojų čia salėje
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have that creative edge,
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turi tą kūrybinę gyslelę,
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if you know what I'm talking about.
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jei suprantat apie ką kalbu.
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You're driven to do something
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Varomoji jėga verčia jus daryti kažką,
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that everyone has told you is impossible.
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ką kiti teigė, jog yra neįmanoma.
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And there's a book -- John Gartner.
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Ir yra knyga rašytojo John Gartner.
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John Gartner wrote this book called "The Hypomanic Edge"
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John Gartner parašė knygą "Hipomanijos Riba",
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in which Christopher Columbus and Ted Turner and Steve Jobs
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kurioje Christopher Columbus ir Ted Turner, ir Steve Jobs,
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and all these business minds
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ir visi tie verslininkai
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have this edge to compete.
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rungiasi su šia riba.
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A different book was written not too long ago
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Neseniai buvo parašyta ir kitokia knyga,
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in the mid-90s
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dešimto dešimtmečio viduryje,
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called "Touched With Fire" by Kay Redfield Jamison
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pavadinimu "Paliesti ugnies" parašyta Kay Redfield Jamison,
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in which it was looked at in a creative sense
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kurioje į tai pažvelgta su kūrybiškumu,
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in which Mozart and Beethoven and Van Gogh
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kurioje Mozart ir Beethoven, ir Van Gogh
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all have this manic depression that they were suffering with.
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visi kenčia nuo maniakinės depresijos.
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Some of them committed suicide.
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Kai kurie iš jų nusižudė.
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So it wasn't all
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Taigi nebuvo vien
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the good side of the illness.
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geroji ligos pusė.
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Now recently,
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Neseniai
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there's been development in this field.
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šioje srityje atsirado patobulinimas.
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And there was an article written in the New York Times,
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Ir New York Times buvo straipsnis
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September 2010,
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2010-ųjų rugsėjį,
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that stated:
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kur teigta:
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"Just Manic Enough."
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"Tiesiog užtektinai maniakiškas"
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Just be manic enough
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Tiesiog būkit pakankamai maniakiškas, nes
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in which investors who are looking for entrepreneurs
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investitoriai ieško verslininkų,
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that have this kind of spectrum --
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kurie patenka į ši spektrą -
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you know what I'm talking about --
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jūs suprantat apie ką aš -
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not maybe full bipolar,
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gal nebūtinai visiškai turintys bipolinį afektinį sutrikimą
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but they're in the bipolar spectrum --
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bet jie yra tame bipolininkų spektre,
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where on one side,
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kur vienoje pusėje
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maybe you think you're Jesus,
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galbūt galvoji, jog esi Jėzus,
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and on the other side
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o kitoje
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maybe they just make you a lot of money.
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galbūt tai padeda uždirbti pinigus.
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(Laughter)
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(Juokas)
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Your call. Your call.
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Jūsų sprendimas. Jūsų sprendimas.
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And everyone's somewhere in the middle.
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Ir visi kažkur viduryje.
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Everyone's somewhere in the middle.
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Kiekvienas kažkur viduryje.
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So maybe, you know,
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Tad žinot, gal
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there's no such thing
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nėra tokio dalyko
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as crazy,
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kaip pamišimas,
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and being diagnosed with a mental illness
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ir diagnozuotas psichinis sutrikimas
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doesn't mean you're crazy.
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nereiškia, kad jūs pamišęs.
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But maybe it just means
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Bet galbūt tai reiškia,
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you're more sensitive
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kad jūs daug jautresnis dalykams,
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to what most people can't see
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kurių kiti žmonės nemato
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or feel.
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ar nejaučia.
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Maybe no one's really crazy.
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Galbūt nieks nėra pamišęs.
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Everyone is just a little bit mad.
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Visi tik truputį pakvaišę.
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How much
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O kiek,
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depends on where you fall in the spectrum.
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priklauso nuo to, kur atsiduri spektre.
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How much
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Kiek daug
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depends on how lucky you are.
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priklauso nuo kiek tau pasiseka.
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Thank you.
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Ačiū.
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(Applause)
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(Plojimai)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Joshua Walters - Comedian, activistJoshua Walters is a bipolar comedian whose work explores language, creativity, beatboxing and madness ...
Why you should listen
Joshua Walters is a comedian, poet, educator and performer. He incorporates elements of spoken word and beatbox into his shows in a mash-up of comedy, intimate reflection and unpredictable antics. In the last two years, Walters has performed at theaters and universities throughout North America, Europe and the Middle East.
His eclectic combination of performance disciplines and activity as an educator in mental health has given Walters a national platform and audience. In 2002, Walters co-founded the DBSA (Depression Bipolar Support Alliance) Young Adults Chapter in San Francisco, one of the few support groups specifically for mentally ill young adults in the country. As a facilitator, Walters developed humor to address the subject of mental illness, reframing it as a positive. Walters speaks as a mental health educator and has engaged in mental health advocacy at conventions and in classrooms nationwide.
Joshua Walters | Speaker | TED.com