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Marcus Bullock: An app that helps incarcerated people stay connected to their families
马库斯·布洛克: 一个维系被监禁者和其家庭的APP
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在 8 年的监狱服刑中，马库斯·布洛克（Marcus Bullock）收到了他妈妈持久不变的爱——通过她每天寄出的关于监狱外生活的信件和照片。多年之后，作为一个创业家，布洛克自问：在监禁环境下，我如何能让所有家庭更简单地保持联系？打开 Flikshop：一个他开发的应用程式，能让那些家庭快速地给狱中亲人寄出明信片，并帮助他们维护一条“支持”的关键连线。
Marcus Bullock - Entrepreneur, justice reform advocate
Marcus Bullock builds tools to help incarcerated people stay connected to their families and communities. Full bio
Marcus Bullock builds tools to help incarcerated people stay connected to their families and communities. Full bio
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00:12
One evening,
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有天晚上，
00:14
after watching the nightly news
with my then five-year-old son,
with my then five-year-old son,
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在和我 5 岁的儿子
看完晚间新闻后，
看完晚间新闻后，
他问了我一个我想
我有很多时间来回答的问题。
我有很多时间来回答的问题。
00:18
he asked me a question I thought
I would have a ton of time to answer.
I would have a ton of time to answer.
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00:23
I thought the complicated questions
typically came at eight or nine years old,
typically came at eight or nine years old,
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这样复杂的问题通常
是8、9岁孩子会问的，
是8、9岁孩子会问的，
当我给他盖被子时，
他看着我的眼睛，
他看着我的眼睛，
00:28
but my son looked me in the eyes
while I was tucking him in,
while I was tucking him in,
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00:32
and with a very straight face he asked me,
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并且板着脸问我，
00:36
"Daddy, why did you go to jail?"
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“爸爸，你之前为什么会进监狱？”
我妻子和我时常会想到这一刻。
00:41
My wife and I often
thought about this moment.
thought about this moment.
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我们知道他有朝一日
会问这个问题，
会问这个问题，
00:44
We knew this question was coming,
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并且我们都想能好好回答。
00:47
and we wanted to handle it well.
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但那晚，
我就需要回答那个问题。
我就需要回答那个问题。
00:49
But that night,
I had a question to answer.
I had a question to answer.
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00:52
So I decided to tell my son
how I ended up going to prison
how I ended up going to prison
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于是我决定告诉我儿子，
当我还只是 15 岁时，
为什么会进监狱。
为什么会进监狱。
00:57
when I was just a 15-year-old kid.
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这照片是我在 14 岁时候拍的。
01:02
This picture was taken
when I was 14 years old.
when I was 14 years old.
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她是我妈，
01:06
That's my mom,
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01:07
my sister,
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我姐姐，
还有那个可爱的小婴儿，
是我的侄女。
是我的侄女。
01:08
and that cute little baby,
that's my niece.
that's my niece.
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01:11
She's 23 now,
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她现在 23 岁了，
这让我每次想起我已经多老了
就变得很抓狂。
就变得很抓狂。
01:13
and it drives me crazy every time
I think about how old I'm getting.
I think about how old I'm getting.
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01:16
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
01:18
This was the last photo that I took
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这是我在做出人生最糟糕的决定
的几周前拍摄的最后一张照片。
01:21
just a few weeks before I made
the worst decision of my life.
the worst decision of my life.
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01:26
A friend of mine and I,
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事发当时，我和一个朋友
01:29
we approached a man sleeping in his car,
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走近一个在车里睡觉的男人，
01:31
pulled out a gun,
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拿出了枪，
01:33
demanded the keys to his car
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要求他把车钥匙给我们，
01:35
and sped off.
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然后我们开着车飞速逃离。
01:38
That decision landed me
in front of a judge,
in front of a judge,
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那个决定把我带到了法官面前，
我妈和我姐姐就站在我身后
仅仅几英尺的地方，
仅仅几英尺的地方，
01:41
with my mom and my sister
standing just a few feet behind me,
standing just a few feet behind me,
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她们听到我被判
01:44
as they listened to me get sentenced
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01:46
to eight years in adult
maximum security prison.
maximum security prison.
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在成人最高安全监狱中服刑八年。
这是我和妈妈拍的下一张家庭照片。
01:53
This is the next family photo
that I took with my mom.
that I took with my mom.
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但这次，是在探监室拍的。
01:56
But this time, it was taken
in the prison visiting room.
in the prison visiting room.
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02:01
Now don't let the waterfalls and the trees
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不要让这个瀑布和树木
02:03
and all that stuff
in the background fool you.
in the background fool you.
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还有各种背景里的东西糊弄你。
02:05
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
02:06
This was one of the hardest
times of my life.
times of my life.
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这是我人生中最艰难的时刻之一。
02:10
In fact, for the first two years,
I battled depression
I battled depression
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事实上，入狱的前两年，
我一直抗拒自己被判入狱的事实，
我一直抗拒自己被判入狱的事实，
02:14
by living in denial
about my prison sentence.
about my prison sentence.
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以此来对抗抑郁。
02:18
I would commonly say things
to my mom like,
to my mom like,
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我通常会和妈妈说类似的话：
02:21
"I mean, Ma, I know you don't think
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“我说，妈妈，我知道你不会认为
02:23
that this judge is really
going to keep us here through Christmas."
going to keep us here through Christmas."
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这位法官真的会让我们
在这里度过圣诞节。”
在这里度过圣诞节。”
02:27
And then, "... Valentine's Day."
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之后，“……情人节。”
之后，“……学期的最后一天。”
02:29
And then, "... the last day of school."
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02:32
And then, "... the first day of school."
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再之后，“……开学第一天。”
02:34
And on and on.
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一直这么下去。
02:37
I promised my mom that one day,
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我向我妈妈保证，
有人会看到我在牢里奄奄一息，
02:40
someone would see
that I was drowning in those cells,
that I was drowning in those cells,
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02:44
that someone would tell us
that we could breathe again
that we could breathe again
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有人会告诉我们可以再次呼吸了，
02:48
because they just wanted
to teach me a hard lesson.
to teach me a hard lesson.
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因为他们只是想要给我
一个非常狠的教训罢了。
一个非常狠的教训罢了。
02:52
But one day, as I'm walking around
the prison rec yard
the prison rec yard
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但是有天，我和朋友丹尼
在放风的院子里闲走时，
02:55
with my friend Danny B,
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02:56
I asked him, "How long
have you been here?"
have you been here?"
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我问他：“你在这儿多久了？”
03:00
He told me that he had
already served 31 years.
already served 31 years.
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他告诉我，他已经服刑 31 年了。
我手心立马开始出汗，
03:05
My palms immediately got sweaty,
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心情如坠深渊，
03:08
heart dropped down to my toes,
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压抑感排山倒海般袭来。
03:10
and it hit me like a ton of bricks.
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因为在那个瞬间，
03:12
Because that's the moment when I realized
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我终于意识到我要在
狱中服刑整整 8 年。
狱中服刑整整 8 年。
03:15
that I would have to serve
all eight of my years.
all eight of my years.
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03:19
Now, the story of going
to prison as a teenager
to prison as a teenager
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一个青少年进监狱的故事
03:24
is not an uncommon one.
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并不少见。
03:25
But for my family,
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但对我的家庭来说，
03:27
this was the most tragic thing
that had happened in our lives.
that had happened in our lives.
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这是我们生活中最悲剧的事情。
我很想念我的家人。
03:32
I missed my family terribly.
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和其他每一个青少年一样，
03:34
And just like every other teenager,
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03:36
I just wanted to open up gifts
on Christmas morning
on Christmas morning
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我只想在圣诞节的早上
打开属于自己的礼物，
打开属于自己的礼物，
03:40
and graduate from high school
with my friends.
with my friends.
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和我的朋友们一起从高中毕业。
由于监狱的高度警戒，
03:44
And because of the intense
security in prisons,
security in prisons,
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03:47
internet access is limited.
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网络访问受限。
03:50
There's no easy emailing,
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这里没办法发邮件，
03:52
no texting
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没有短信，
03:54
and definitely no social media.
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必然，也没有社交媒体。
03:57
This means that the meaningful moments
like prom night or college graduation
like prom night or college graduation
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这意味着那些具有纪念意义的时刻，
例如毕业舞会，或毕业典礼，
例如毕业舞会，或毕业典礼，
04:03
or the tons of free content
that you and I digest every day
that you and I digest every day
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甚至你我每日
免费阅览的信息内容，
免费阅览的信息内容，
04:08
very seldom gets shared with the cousin,
sibling or best friend in prison.
sibling or best friend in prison.
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都很少能够和你的兄弟姐妹，
或是监狱里最好的朋友分享。
或是监狱里最好的朋友分享。
04:16
I became very dark.
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我的内心变得非常阴暗。
04:20
My childhood and the dreams of it,
they disappeared.
they disappeared.
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我的童年和梦想，都消失了。
监狱房间里的铁门每晚都在
04:24
And those slamming steel doors
clanking shut every night
clanking shut every night
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04:29
in the prison housing unit,
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砰砰作响的关上，
04:31
they forced me to grow up fast.
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这迫使我不得不快速成长。
我可以用亲身体会告诉你，
04:34
I can tell you firsthand
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存在于监狱里的“暴力牌”
04:36
that there is something
about the violent cards of prison
about the violent cards of prison
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04:40
that completely cripple hope.
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完全摧毁了希望。
我甚至试图把我妈推开，
04:43
I even tried to push my mom away,
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因为我不想她接付费电话
04:45
because I didn't want her to be subject
to the collect calls
to the collect calls
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04:49
or the eight-hour drives
for the one-hour visits,
for the one-hour visits,
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或为一小时的会面
而开八小时车。
而开八小时车。
04:53
those horrible body cavity searches
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或接受那些为了进入探监室
04:55
that she would experience
coming into the prison visiting room.
coming into the prison visiting room.
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而要经历的可怕的腹腔搜查。
04:58
But as many of you parents
here know tonight,
here know tonight,
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但就像今晚在座的
很多父母知道的那样，
很多父母知道的那样，
你无法阻止一个母亲的爱。
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you can't stop a mother's love.
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05:05
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
05:07
So what did my mom do?
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所以我妈做了什么？
05:09
She made a promise while sitting
in a prison visiting room.
in a prison visiting room.
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她在探监室里对我做了一个承诺。
05:13
She promised she would write me a letter
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她承诺从那天起，她会每天
给我写信，
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or send me a picture
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或是寄照片给我，
直到我出狱那天。
直到我出狱那天。
05:19
every day from that day forward
until I came home.
until I came home.
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那时我还剩 6 年的服刑期，
05:25
I had six years left to do on a sentence,
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生活完全击倒了我们，
05:28
our lives were completely
crumbling around us,
crumbling around us,
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然而这个乐天无忧的女士
05:32
and here comes this happy-go-lucky lady
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05:34
prancing into a prison visiting room
like I'm in summer camp,
like I'm in summer camp,
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昂首阔步地走进探监室，
仿佛我在夏令营一样，
仿佛我在夏令营一样，
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with a new plan to send me
a bunch of pictures.
a bunch of pictures.
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带着她要给我寄很多照片的新计划。
05:40
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
05:43
Such an interesting time.
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那段时光如此惬意。
让我却并不知道，
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Little did I know,
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05:48
it would be my mom's letters
that saved my life.
that saved my life.
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正是我妈的那些来信，
拯救了我的生活。
拯救了我的生活。
我妈会给芝士汉堡拍照，
05:53
My mom would take pictures
of a cheeseburger
of a cheeseburger
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05:57
or a mattress at a department store --
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或是给商场的床垫拍照——
05:59
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
06:01
and she would send them
to me along with a letter
to me along with a letter
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然后她会把这些照片附在信中寄给我，
06:04
with a promise that one day
I would enjoy a fat, juicy burger
I would enjoy a fat, juicy burger
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并且许诺说有天，
我会吃到一个油腻而多汁的汉堡，
我会吃到一个油腻而多汁的汉堡，
06:08
or sleep on a comfortable bed.
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或在这个舒适的床上睡觉。
06:10
My mom assured me
that there was life after prison.
that there was life after prison.
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我妈向我保证，
出狱后的我还拥有正常的生活。
出狱后的我还拥有正常的生活。
实际上，我最好的朋友
开始间接感受到
开始间接感受到
06:16
In fact, my best friends
began living vicariously
began living vicariously
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06:21
through my mom's letters and photos --
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来自我妈信件和照片的影响——
06:23
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
06:25
giving an entire prison unit a glimpse
into what was happening in the world.
into what was happening in the world.
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它们让整个监狱单位得以一窥
世界上正在发生的事情。
世界上正在发生的事情。
06:31
After eight years of nightmares
of prison never ending,
of prison never ending,
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8 年监狱时间的噩梦从未停止，
06:37
being dehumanized,
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经历了无数诸如
06:39
strip-searched,
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光身搜查，
06:42
watching people get wheeled
down the prison walkway in body bags,
down the prison walkway in body bags,
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看着人们被装在尸袋里，从监狱
的走道上被推下来等非人的折磨之后，
的走道上被推下来等非人的折磨之后，
06:47
I was finally released.
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我终于被释放了。
06:49
And I bet you can't guess
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我打赌你猜不到
06:51
who was there to pick me up
that cold morning in February.
that cold morning in February.
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是谁在二月寒冷的早上
来监狱门口接我。
来监狱门口接我。
06:55
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
06:57
OK, you guessed it --
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好吧，你们猜到了——
06:58
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
06:59
my sister and my mom.
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我妈和我姐。
07:04
The years that we prayed for
were finally in front of us,
were finally in front of us,
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我们祈祷的日子终于
出现在我们面前，
出现在我们面前，
在监狱里的痛苦终于过去了。
07:08
and the pain of living
behind bars was behind us.
behind bars was behind us.
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07:13
Or so we thought.
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至少我们是这么认为。
07:15
Like me, most people in prison
are coming home one day.
are coming home one day.
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像我一样，大多数蹲监狱的人
某天都会出狱回家。
某天都会出狱回家。
但与我不同的是，
07:20
And unlike me,
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很多人在监狱期间无法
像我一样获得持续的支持。
像我一样获得持续的支持。
07:22
many don't have the consistent support
during and after incarceration that I had.
during and after incarceration that I had.
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07:28
The struggle is real,
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这种多么真真切切，
07:31
and even I struggled to find a job
when I came home.
when I came home.
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甚至在我回家后，都很难找到工作。
我填写的每一个申请——
07:35
Each application that I filled out --
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07:38
from grocery stores to mortgage companies
to fashion retail --
to fashion retail --
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从杂货店到贷款公司，
再到时尚零售——
再到时尚零售——
07:45
they all included the same question,
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他们的表格上都有同一个问题，
07:49
glowing, pulsating,
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在那发光、闪动，
07:52
waiting for me to add my check:
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等着我去填写：
“你曾因重罪而被判刑过吗？”
07:55
"Have you ever been
convicted of a felony?"
convicted of a felony?"
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07:59
Now, to be honest,
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老实说，
08:01
I knew that this moment was coming.
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我知道那个时刻来临了，
08:04
I knew I would have to face this issue.
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我知道我将不得不面对这个问题。
所以我利用了自己在监狱中
建立的坚强意志。
建立的坚强意志。
08:06
So I leveraged the mental toughness
that I built while going through prison.
that I built while going through prison.
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但在 40 多份工作申请被拒后，
08:12
But after being declined for over 40 jobs,
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08:15
even I began to feel deflated.
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甚至我也开始泄气。
我曾以为我能要回自己的生活，
08:18
I thought that I would get my life back
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and that all those things were behind me
and things would start looking up.
and things would start looking up.
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我曾以为那些事情已经过去，
未来会慢慢变好。
未来会慢慢变好。
但我在 15 岁那年做的决定
08:27
But that decision that I made
when I was a 15-year-old kid
when I was a 15-year-old kid
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08:31
continued to haunt me
even up until that moment.
even up until that moment.
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仍在继续缠着我，即便在那个时候。
但是在找工作的时候，
08:36
But while on a job hunt,
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有天，我看到了个申请表，
它也问了这个问题，
它也问了这个问题，
08:38
one day, I ran across an application
that asked the question,
that asked the question,
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但是问题的语言组织稍许不同。
08:44
but this time it was worded
a little differently.
a little differently.
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08:47
This time, the question asked:
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这次，问题是：
08:49
"Have you been convicted of a felony
within the last seven years?"
within the last seven years?"
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“在过去的 7 年中，
你曾因重罪而被判刑过吗？”
你曾因重罪而被判刑过吗？”
08:55
Now, after doing an eight-year
prison sentence --
prison sentence --
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在监狱中服刑 8 年后——
08:57
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
08:59
I could honestly say that my conviction
was over seven years ago.
was over seven years ago.
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我可以诚实地说我的定罪
是在 7 年之前。
是在 7 年之前。
我于是能够用一个诚实的 “无”
来回答那个问题，
来回答那个问题，
09:06
I was able to answer that question
with an honest "no,"
with an honest "no,"
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终于，我找到了第一份工作。
09:10
and finally, I landed my first job.
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（掌声）
09:14
(Applause)
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我负责在油漆店混合油漆。
09:20
I was the guy who mixed paint
at the paint store.
at the paint store.
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后来，来到店里的顾客
09:23
And eventually, customers
would come into the store,
would come into the store,
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09:26
and they would ask me,
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会问我，
09:27
"Hey Marcus, how much do you charge
to paint my kitchen?"
to paint my kitchen?"
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“嘿，马库斯，你给我厨房
刷漆的话会怎么收费？”
刷漆的话会怎么收费？”
“额，约翰逊先生，
我们不给厨房上漆，
我们不给厨房上漆，
09:31
"Well, Ms. Johnson,
we don't paint kitchens,
we don't paint kitchens,
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09:36
we sell you the paint
so you can paint your own kitchen."
so you can paint your own kitchen."
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我们卖油漆，
之后你要自己给厨房上漆。”
之后你要自己给厨房上漆。”
09:38
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
灵光闪现，于是我自己
开了家刷漆公司，
开了家刷漆公司，
09:40
A light bulb went off,
and I launched a painting company
and I launched a painting company
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09:44
that became the conduit
between the customers in the paint store
between the customers in the paint store
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成为了油漆店和顾客，以及那些
09:49
and the painters
who needed consistent work.
who needed consistent work.
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需要稳定工作的油漆工的中间商。
大概一年后，
09:53
After a year or so,
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09:54
I left that paint store,
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我离开了那家油漆店，
我们的承包公司得以迅速发展，
09:58
we grew our contracting company,
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10:00
and since then, I have hired
tons of other returning citizens.
tons of other returning citizens.
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在那之后，我雇用了很多
其他重返社会的市民。
其他重返社会的市民。
10:06
(Applause)
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（掌声）
今天我站在这里，背负重罪，
10:12
I stand today with a felony,
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和这国家其他数百万人一样，
10:16
and just like millions of others
around the country
around the country
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10:20
who also have that "F" on their chest
that represents felony,
that represents felony,
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左胸前也印刻着一串数字，
代表重罪的那些人。
代表重罪的那些人。
就像我妈多年前承诺我的那样，
10:25
just as my mom promised me many years ago,
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我想让他们看到
服刑后依旧拥有生活。
服刑后依旧拥有生活。
10:29
I wanted to show them
that there was still life after prison.
that there was still life after prison.
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我开始努力过着最好的生活，
10:34
I started living my best life,
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我都不敢相信自己生活在云端。
10:38
and I couldn't believe
that I was living on a cloud.
that I was living on a cloud.
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但我的朋友们，
那些在我成长的牢房中的朋友，
那些在我成长的牢房中的朋友，
10:42
But my friends, the same ones
I grew up with in those cells,
I grew up with in those cells,
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10:45
they would call me and constantly ask for
pictures of this new life I was living.
pictures of this new life I was living.
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他们会给我打电话，
一直想要看我现在新生活的照片。
一直想要看我现在新生活的照片。
如果我旅行，他们想要照片。
10:52
If I traveled, they wanted pictures.
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当我结婚时，他们想要照片。
10:54
When I got married, they wanted pictures.
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但我没有时间或精力
去坐下来写一封信，
去坐下来写一封信，
10:58
But I didn't have the time
or the bandwidth to sit and write a letter
or the bandwidth to sit and write a letter
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11:03
or print pictures from my phone.
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或从手机上打印照片。
所以我总是和他们说：
11:05
I would commonly tell them,
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"Dude, if I could just text you,
my life would be so much easier."
my life would be so much easier."
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“伙计，如果我能直接短信你，
我的生活就简单多了。”
我的生活就简单多了。”
11:13
And after searching the app stores
for a solution to this problem
for a solution to this problem
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后来我上应用商店
找寻这个问题的解决方案，
找寻这个问题的解决方案，
11:17
and not being able to find one,
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可惜没能找到一个有用的 App，
11:20
we launched Flikshop.
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于是，我们的 Flikshop 上架了。
11:24
(Applause)
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（掌声）
我不骗你——
11:30
I kid you not --
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11:31
did you know that
the prison phone business
the prison phone business
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你知道监狱电话
11:36
created a billion-dollar industry?
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是价值十亿美元的生意吗？
11:40
Some of these businesses are predatory,
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这里有些生意是掠夺性的，
11:43
and so we knew we had to figure out
how to disrupt this space.
how to disrupt this space.
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我们知道我们必须摸清
如何破坏这个利润空间。
如何破坏这个利润空间。
Flikshop 允许我们的家庭成员
拍照、快速添加文字，
拍照、快速添加文字，
11:49
Flikshop allows our family members
to take a picture, add some quick text,
to take a picture, add some quick text,
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点击“发送”——仅需要 99 美分，
11:55
press send, and for 99 cents,
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11:58
we print that picture and text
on a real, tangible postcard
on a real, tangible postcard
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我们就能帮你在真实可触的明信片上
打印那些照片和文字，
打印那些照片和文字，
12:01
and mail it directly to any person,
in any cell, anywhere in the country.
in any cell, anywhere in the country.
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并且直接邮寄到美国任何地方
的任何监狱牢房的任何一个人。
的任何监狱牢房的任何一个人。
（掌声）
12:08
(Applause)
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有上百万的家庭正分崩离析，
12:15
There are millions of families
that are becoming torn apart,
that are becoming torn apart,
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12:18
simply because they don't have
the time to write a letter,
the time to write a letter,
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只是因为他们没有时间写封信，
搞清楚如何从手机上打印出照片，
12:23
figure out how to print
a photo from their phone,
a photo from their phone,
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12:26
make a store run to go buy
a box of envelopes
a box of envelopes
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跑去商店买一盒信封，
12:30
and then to the post office
to go buy stamps.
to go buy stamps.
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然后再跑去邮局买邮票。
我们最初连接着 50 个家庭，
12:33
We started by connecting 50 families.
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后来 100 个家庭，
12:36
And then 100 families.
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12:39
And then 500 families.
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500 个家庭。
直至今日，我很自豪地说，
12:43
And now, today, I am proud to say
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that we've connected over 140,000 families
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我们已经连接了全国
超过 14 万的家庭。
12:50
around the country.
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12:52
(Applause)
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（掌声）
我们甚至经常收到狱中服刑的来信，
12:58
We even commonly receive mail
in my office overflowing my desk
in my office overflowing my desk
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13:03
from people in prison
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在我的办公室满桌子都是，
13:05
like Jason.
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例如杰森。
杰森写到：“昨晚我收到了
大概 15 张明信片，
大概 15 张明信片，
13:08
Jason says, "I got about
15 postcards last night
15 postcards last night
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13:11
of so many words of motivation
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上面写满了激励的话语，
13:13
that I had to write to you
and just say thank you."
and just say thank you."
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我必须给你写信，
仅表示感谢。”
仅表示感谢。”
或乔治，写道：
13:17
Or George, who writes,
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13:19
"Today I received about six postcards
with so much love ...
with so much love ...
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“今天我收到了大约 6 张明信片，
承载着那么多的爱……
承载着那么多的爱……
13:23
I do not know where this roof
of love has come from."
of love has come from."
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我不知道这满屋子的爱
从何而来。”
从何而来。”
13:27
I cannot believe how blessed I am
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我不敢相信自己是有多幸运，
13:30
to sometimes be able to meet a child
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有时能看到一个孩子
13:33
who sends Flikshop postcards
to their incarcerated parents.
to their incarcerated parents.
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给监禁中的父母
寄 Flikshop 明信片。
寄 Flikshop 明信片。
有时，我甚至能去到白宫
13:38
Sometimes, I'm able to even
go to the White House
go to the White House
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13:43
and address the nation and talk about
the need for criminal justice reform.
the need for criminal justice reform.
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面对国家演讲，
谈论刑事司法改革的必要性。
谈论刑事司法改革的必要性。
这个故事对我来说只是难以相信，
因为我的生活不总是如此。
因为我的生活不总是如此。
13:48
And this story is just incredible for me,
because this wasn't always my life.
because this wasn't always my life.
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我还深刻记得，和一个 22 岁
需要服刑到 43 岁的男人
需要服刑到 43 岁的男人
13:55
I remember very vividly living
in a six-foot-by-nine-foot cell
in a six-foot-by-nine-foot cell
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14:02
with a man that was 22 years old
and there to serve life plus 43 years,
and there to serve life plus 43 years,
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一起生活在一个 4 平方米的
监狱牢房中的情形，
监狱牢房中的情形，
14:09
and thinking in my head
while I'm sitting in that bunk
while I'm sitting in that bunk
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坐在那个铺位，我曾经想过，
14:12
that together, we probably
would die in those cells.
would die in those cells.
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我们可能会一起死在这些牢房里。
我知道我们所处的
大规模监禁时代，
大规模监禁时代，
14:17
Well, I know that our era
of mass incarceration
of mass incarceration
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14:22
and the things that we see on the news
dealing with people going to prison
dealing with people going to prison
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以及我们可以在新闻上看到的，
关于人们即将入狱的事情，
关于人们即将入狱的事情，
14:25
is a huge societal issue
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是一个我们需要联合起来
14:27
that we all have
to band together to help solve.
to band together to help solve.
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共同解决的很大的社会问题。
14:31
But I am confident
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但是我有信心，
14:33
that if we're very intentional
about building family connections
about building family connections
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如果我们在各家庭最需要的环境下，
14:38
in environments where
they're needed the most,
they're needed the most,
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有意图地去搭建家庭连接，
14:41
then this is a big step
in the right direction.
in the right direction.
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那我们就向着正确的方向，
迈了一大步。
迈了一大步。
我绝对热爱我生命中的这个舞台，
14:46
I absolutely love this stage of my life,
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14:49
this chapter, where
I'm standing right now.
I'm standing right now.
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这个分会舞台，
我现在站着的地方。
我现在站着的地方。
14:53
But you know who's having
way more fun than me at this stage?
way more fun than me at this stage?
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但你们知道谁比我
更享受这个舞台吗？
更享受这个舞台吗？
14:57
My mom.
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我的妈妈。
14:58
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
14:59
I love you, Ma. Thank you.
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我爱你，妈妈。谢谢。
15:01
(Applause)
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（掌声）
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Marcus Bullock - Entrepreneur, justice reform advocateMarcus Bullock builds tools to help incarcerated people stay connected to their families and communities.
Why you should listen
Following his 2004 release from prison, Marcus Bullock launched a construction business that grew to employ other returning citizens. Bullock is also founder and CEO of Flikshop, Inc., a software company that builds tools to help incarcerated people stay connected to their families and build community. The Flikshop mobile app enables families and nonprofit organizations to send personalized postcards to any person in any cell in the United States, with the mission of using social connections to decrease recidivism. Forbes calls the app "Instagram for prisons."
Bullock also founded the Flikshop School of Business, a program that teaches returning citizens life skills and entrepreneurship via computer coding and software development. He is an inaugural cohort member of Techstars Anywhere 2018 and John Legend’s
Unlocked Futures business accelerators. He is also a member of the Justice Policy Institute's board of directors and serves as an advisor to the Aspen Institute’s Opportunity Youth Incentive Fund.
Marcus Bullock | Speaker | TED.com