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Hasan Elahi: FBI, here I am!
Hasan Elahi: FBI, her er jeg!
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Efter at være havnet på en observationsliste ved et uheld blev Hasan Elahi rådet til at informere sine lokale FBI-agenter om sine rejser. Det gjorde han så...og meget mere til.
Hasan Elahi - Privacy artist
In 2002, American artist Hasan Elahi’s name was added (by mistake) to the US government’s watch list. Full bio
In 2002, American artist Hasan Elahi’s name was added (by mistake) to the US government’s watch list. Full bio
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Hi there. I'm Hasan. I'm an artist.
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Hejsa. Jeg hedder Hasan. Jeg er kunstner.
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And usually when I tell people I'm an artist,
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Normalt, når jeg fortæller folk, at jeg er kunstner,
00:20
they just look at me and say, "Do you paint?"
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kigger de på mig og spørger "Maler du?"
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or "What kind of medium do you work in?"
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eller "Hvilken kunstretning arbejder du med?"
00:25
Well most of my work that I work with
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Det, jeg mest arbejder med,
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is really a little bit about methodologies of working
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er faktisk en smule om arbejdsmetoder
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rather than actually a specific discipline
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mere end en særlig disciplin
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or a specific technique.
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eller en særlig teknik.
00:35
So what I'm really interested in is creative problem solving.
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Så det, jeg i virkeligheden er interesseret i, er kreativ problemløsning
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And I had a little bit of a problem a few years ago.
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Og jeg havde et lille problem for få år siden.
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So let me show you a little of that.
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Så lad mig vise jer lidt af det.
00:43
So it started over here.
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Det startede her.
00:45
And this is the Detroit airport in June 19th of 2002.
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Det her er lufthavnen i Detroit den 19. juni 2002.
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I was flying back to the U.S. from an exhibition overseas.
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Jeg ankom til USA fra en udstilling i udlandet.
00:52
And as I was coming back,
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Og da jeg ankom,
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well I was taken by the FBI, met by an FBI agent,
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ja, der blev jeg taget til side af en FBI-agent
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and went into a little room
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og kom ind i et lille rum,
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and he asked me all sorts of questions --
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og han stillede mig alle mulige spørgsmål --
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"Where were you? What were you doing? Who were you talking with?
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"Hvor var du? Hvad lavede du? Hvem talte du med?
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Why were you there? Who pays for your trips?" --
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Hvorfor var du der? Hvem betaler for dine rejser?" --
01:05
all these little details.
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alle sådanne små detaljer.
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And then literally just out of nowhere,
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Og bogstaveligt talt ud af det blå,
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the guy asks me, "Where were you September 12th?"
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spørger agenten mig: "Hvor var du den 12. september?"
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And when most of us get asked, "Where were you September 12th?"
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Når vi får stillet spørgsmålet "Hvor var du den 12. september?"
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or any date for that fact,
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eller enhver anden dato,
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it's like, "I don't exactly remember, but I can look it up for you."
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svarer man: "Jeg kan ikke huske det, men lad mig undersøge det."
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So I pulled out my little PDA,
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Så jeg tog min lommecomputer frem
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and I said, "Okay, let's look up my appointments for September 12th."
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og svarede: "Godt, lad os se på mine aftaler for den 12. september."
01:24
I had September 12th -- from 10:00 a.m. to 10:30 a.m., I paid my storage bill.
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Den 12. september: fra 10 til 10:30 betalte jeg regningen for mit opbevaringsrum.
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From 10:30 a.m. to 12:00 p.m., I met with Judith who was one of my graduate students at the time.
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10:30 til 12:00 mødtes jeg med Judith, som var en af mine afgangselever på det tidspunkt.
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From 12:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m., I taught my intro class,
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Fra 12:00 til 15:00 underviste jeg mit introduktionshold,
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3:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m., I taught my advanced class.
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15:00 til 18:00 underviste jeg mit avancerede hold.
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"Where were you the 11th?" "Where were you the 10th?"
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"Hvor var du den 11.?" "Hvor var du den 10.?"
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"Where were you the 29th? the 30th?"
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"Hvor var du den 29.? den 30.?"
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"Where were you October 5th?"
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"Hvor var du den 5. oktober?"
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We read about six months of my calendar.
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Vi læste omkring seks måneder af min kalender.
01:43
And I don't think he was expecting me to have such detailed records
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Han forventede vist ikke, at jeg havde så detaljeret en kalender
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of what I did.
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over min gøren og laden.
01:48
But good thing I did,
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Men godt jeg havde det,
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because I don't look good in orange.
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for orange klæder mig ikke.
01:52
(Laughter)
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(Latter)
01:54
So he asked me --
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Så han spurgte mig --
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(Applause)
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(Klapsalver)
01:58
"So this storage unit that you paid the rent on,
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"Det opbevaringsrum, som du betalte leje for,
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what did you have in it?"
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hvad havde du i det?"
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This was in Tampa, Florida,
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Det lå i Tampa, Florida,
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so I was like, "Winter clothes that I have no use for in Florida.
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så mit svar var: "Vintertøj, som jeg ikke har brug for i Florida.
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Furniture that I can't fit in my ratty apartment.
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Møbler, der ikke er plads til i min lejlighed.
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Just assorted garage sale junk,
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Al mulig slags bras fra loppemarkeder,
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because I'm a pack rat."
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fordi jeg samler på ting."
02:16
And he looks at me really confused and says, "No explosives?"
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Han kigger helt forvirret på mig og siger, "Ingen sprængstoffer?"
02:19
(Laughter)
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(Latter)
02:21
I was like, "No, no. I'm pretty certain there were no explosives.
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"Nej, nej. Jeg er ret sikker på, at der ikke var sprængstoffer imellem.
02:23
And if there were, I would have remembered that one."
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Og hvis der var, så havde jeg med garanti husket det."
02:26
And he's still a little confused,
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Han er stadig en smule forvirret,
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but I think that anyone who talks to me for more than a couple of minutes
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men de fleste, der snakker med mig i mere end et par minutter,
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realizes I'm not exactly a terrorist threat.
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forstår, at jeg ikke rigtigt er en terrortrussel.
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And so we're sitting there,
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Vi sidder så der,
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and eventually after about an hour, hour and a half of just going back and forth,
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og omsider efter en time til halvanden, hvor vi har snakket frem og tilbage,
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he says, "Okay, I have enough information here.
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siger han: "Okay, jeg har nok information her."
02:42
I'm going to pass this onto the Tampa office. They're the ones who initiated this.
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Jeg overdrager det til Tampa-kontoret. De har indledt denne sag.
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They'll follow up with you, and we'll take care of it."
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De følger op på dig, og vi skal nok tage os af det."
02:46
I was like, "Great."
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"Fint."
02:48
So I got home and the phone rings,
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Jeg kom hjem, og telefonen ringer,
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and a man introduced himself.
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og en mand præsenterer sig.
02:53
Basically this is the FBI offices in Tampa
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Det her er FBI-kontoret i Tampa
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where I spent six months of my life --
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hvor jeg tilbragte seks måneder af mit liv --
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back and forth, not six months continuously.
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frem og tilbage, ikke seks måneder uafbrudt.
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By the way, you folks know that in the United States,
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I øvrigt, I ved godt, at man i USA
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you can't take photographs of federal buildings,
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ikke må tage billeder af regeringsbygninger,
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but Google can do it for you.
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men Google kan gøre det for dig.
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So to the folks from Google, thank you.
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Så tak til jer fra Google.
03:08
(Applause)
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(Klapsalver)
03:11
So I spent a lot of time in this building.
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Jeg tilbragte en del tid i den bygning.
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Questions like:
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Med spørgsmål såsom:
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"Have you ever witnessed or participated in any act
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"Har du nogensinde været vidne til eller deltaget i noget,
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that may be detrimental to the United States or a foreign nation?"
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som kan være til skade for USA eller en fremmed nation?"
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And you also have to consider the state of mind you're in
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Man skal også lige tænke på den tilstand, man er i,
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when you're doing this.
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i den situation.
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You're basically face-to-face with someone
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Man sidder overfor en person,
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that essentially decides life or death.
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som faktisk bestemmer over liv eller død.
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Or questions such as -- actually, during the polygraph,
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Rent faktisk i løgnedetektortesten,
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which was how it finally ended after nine consecutive of them --
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som var hvordan det til slut endte efter ni sådanne tests i træk --
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one of the polygraph questions was ...
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et af testspørgsmålene var ...
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well the first one was, "Is your name Hasan?" "Yes."
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ja det første var, "Er dit navn Hasan?" "Ja."
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"Are we in Florida?" "Yes." "Is today Tuesday?" "Yes."
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"Er vi i Florida?" "Ja." "Er det tirsdag i dag?" "Ja."
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Because you have to base it on a yes or no.
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Fordi man må kun svare ja eller nej.
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Then, of course, the next question is:
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Det næste spørgsmål er så selvfølgelig:
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"Do you belong to any groups that wish to harm the United States?"
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"Er du med i nogen gruppe, som ønsker at skade USA?"
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I work at a university.
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Jeg arbejder på et universitet.
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(Laughter)
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(Latter)
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So I was like, "Maybe you want to ask some of my colleagues that directly."
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Så jeg svarede, "Måske du skulle spørge nogle af mine kolleger direkte."
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But they said, "Okay, aside from what we had discussed,
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Men de sagde, "Okay, bortset fra det, vi har diskuteret,
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do you belong to any groups that wish to harm the United States?"
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hører du så til nogen gruppe, som ønsker at skade USA?"
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I was like, "No."
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Mit svar var : "Nej."
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So at the end of six months of this
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Så efter seks måneder af det her
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and nine consecutive polygraphs,
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og ni løgnedetektortests,
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they said, "Hey, everything's fine."
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sagde de: "Hey, alt er i orden."
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I was like, "I know. That's what I've been trying to tell you guys all along.
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Jeg svarede: "Det ved jeg. Det har jeg forsøgt at fortælle jer hele tiden.
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I know everything's fine."
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Jeg ved, alt er i orden."
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So they're looking at me really odd.
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Så kiggede de helt underligt på mig.
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And it's like, "Guys, I travel a lot."
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Så sagde jeg, "Gutter, jeg rejser meget."
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This is with the FBI.
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Det her er hos FBI.
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And I was like, "All we need is Alaska not to get the last memo,
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"Nu skal Alaska-kontoret blot være de sidste til at blive informeret,
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and here we go all over again."
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så starter vi forfra igen."
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And there was a sincere concern there.
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Det var en alvorlig bekymring.
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And he was like, "You know, if you get into trouble,
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Han sagde, "Hvis du får problemer,
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give us a call -- we'll take care of it."
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ring til os -- så tager vi os af det."
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So ever since then, before I would go anywhere, I would call the FBI.
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Så siden da har jeg, inden jeg rejser, ringet til FBI.
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I would tell them, "Hey guys, this is where I'm going. This is my flight.
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Jeg siger til dem: "Hej, det er her jeg skal hen. Det her er mit fly.
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Northwest flight seven coming into Seattle
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Northwest fly nummer 7 til Seattle
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on March 12th" or whatever.
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den 12. marts" eller noget lignende.
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A couple weeks later, I'd call again, let them know.
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Et par uger senere ringer jeg igen.
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It wasn't that I had to, but I chose to.
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Ikke fordi jeg skulle, men jeg valgte at gøre det.
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Just wanted to say, "Hey guys.
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Ville bare lige sige: "Hej.
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Don't want to make it look like I'm making any sudden moves."
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Jeg vil ikke have det til at se ud som om, jeg laver nogle pludselige træk."
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(Laughter)
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(Latter)
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"I don't want you guys to think that I'm about to flee.
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"Jeg vil ikke have jer til at tro, at jeg er ved at flygte.
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Just letting you know. Heads up."
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Giver jer bare besked på forhånd."
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And so I just kept doing this over and over and over.
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Og jeg fortsatte med at gøre det igen og igen og igen.
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And then the phone calls turned into emails,
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Og telefonopkald blev til e-mails,
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and the emails got longer and longer and longer ...
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og e-mailsene blev længere og længere og længere...
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with pictures,
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med billeder,
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with travel tips.
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og rejsetips.
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Then I'd make websites.
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Så lavede jeg hjemmesider.
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And then I built this over here. Let me go back to it over here.
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Og så lavede jeg dette. Lad mig komme tilbage til det herovre.
05:14
So I actually designed this back in 2003.
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Jeg designede faktisk dette tilbage i 2003.
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So this kind of tracks me at any given moment.
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Det her viser, hvor jeg er på ethvert tidspunkt
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I wrote some code for my mobile phone.
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Jeg skrev noget kode til min mobil.
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Basically, what I decided is okay guys, you want to watch me, that's cool.
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Så faktisk siger jeg til FBI: "Okay, I vil overvåge mig, det er fint.
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But I'll watch myself. It's okay.
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Men jeg overvåger mig selv. Det er helt i orden.
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You don't have to waste your energy or your resources.
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I behøver ikke bruge energi eller ressourcer på det.
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And I'll help you out.
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Jeg hjælper jer.
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So in the process, I start thinking, well what else might they know about me?
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Så i løbet af processen tænker jeg, hvad ved de ellers om mig?
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Well they probably have all my flight records,
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De har sikkert alle data for mine flyrejser,
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so I decided to put all my flight records from birth online.
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så jeg besluttede at lægge alle mine flyrejser fra fødslen online.
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So you can see, Delta 1252
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Som I kan se, Delta 1252
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going from Kansas City to Atlanta.
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fra Kansas City til Atlanta.
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And then you see, these are some of the meals that I've been fed on the planes.
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Som I ser her, det her er nogle af de måltider, jeg har fået ombord.
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This was on Delta 719
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Det her var på Delta 719
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going from JFK to San Francisco.
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fra JFK-lufthavnen til San Francisco.
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See that? They won't let me on a plane with that,
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Kan I se den der? Den vil de ikke lade mig komme ombord med,
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but they'll give it to me on the plane.
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men de giver mig den på flyet.
06:03
(Laughter)
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(Latter)
06:05
These are the airports that I hang out in,
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Det her er de lufthavne, jeg færdes i,
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because I like airports.
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fordi jeg godt kan lide lufthavne.
06:09
That's Kennedy airport, May 19th, Tuesday.
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Det er Kennedy-lufthavnen, tirsdag den 19. maj.
06:12
This is in Warsaw.
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Det her er Warszawa.
06:15
Singapore. You can see, they're kind of empty.
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Singapore. Som I kan se, er der en smule tomt.
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These images are shot really anonymously
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Billederne er så anonyme,
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to the point where it could be anyone.
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at det kunne være enhver.
06:22
But if you can cross-reference this with the other data,
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Men hvis man krydstjekker det her med de andre data,
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then you're basically replaying the roll of the FBI agent
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så spiller man faktisk rollen som FBI-agent
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and putting it all together.
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og stykker det hele sammen.
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And when you're in a situation
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Når man er i en situation,
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where you have to justify every moment of your existence,
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hvor man skal retfærdiggøre hvert øjeblik i sit liv,
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you're put in the situation where you react in a very different manner.
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er man i en situation, hvor man reagerer på en helt anden måde.
06:36
At the time that this was going on,
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Da det her stod på,
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the last thing on my mind was "art project."
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var "kunstprojekt" det sidste, jeg tænkte.
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I was certainly not thinking, hey, I got new work here.
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Jeg tænkte i hvert fald ikke: "Hey, jeg har et nyt værk her."
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But after going through this, after realizing, well what just happened?
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Men efter alt det her og have indset, hvad skete der lige?
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And after piecing together this, this and this,
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Og efter at have stykket det her, det her og det her sammen,
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this way of actually trying to figure out what happened for myself
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så udviklede mit forsøg på at forstå, hvad der skete,
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eventually evolved into this,
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sig til det her
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and it actually became this project.
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og blev faktisk til dette projekt.
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So these are the stores that I shop in -- some of them --
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Så det her er nogle af de butikker, jeg handler i,
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because they need to know.
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fordi de skal vide det.
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This is me buying some duck flavored paste
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Her køber jeg andepostej
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at the Ranch 99 in Daly City
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i Ranch 99 i Daly City
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on Sunday, November 15th.
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søndag den 15. november.
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At Coreana Supermarket
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I Coreana Supermarked
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buying my kimchi because I like kimchi.
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køber jeg kimchi, fordi jeg godt kan lide det.
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And I bought some crabs too right around there,
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Jeg købte også nogle krabber i nærheden,
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and some chitlins at the Safeway in Emoryville.
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og svineindvolde i Safeway i Emoryville.
07:17
And laundry too. Laundry detergent at West Oakland --
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Vaskemiddel også. Vaskepulver i Vest-Oakland --
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East Oakland, sorry.
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Øst-Oakland, undskyld.
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And then my pickled jellyfish
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Mine vandmænd i lage
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at the Hong Kong Supermarket on Route 18 in East Brunswick.
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i Hong Kong Supermarked på rute 18 i Øst-Brunswick.
07:26
Now if you go to my bank records,
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Hvis I nu kigger på mine bankdata,
07:28
it'll actually show something from there,
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så vil det faktisk vise noget derfra,
07:30
so you know that, on May 9th,
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så I ved, at den 9. maj
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that I bought $14.79 in fuel from Safeway Vallejo.
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købte jeg benzin for $14,79 i Safeway Vallejo.
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So not only that I'm giving this information here and there,
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Ikke nok med at jeg giver denne information her og der,
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but now there's a third party,
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men nu er der en tredjepart,
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an independent third party, my bank,
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en uafhængig tredjepart, min bank,
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that's verifying that, yes indeed, I was there at this time.
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som bekræfter, at ja, jeg var faktisk der på dette tidspunkt.
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So there's points, and these points are actually being cross-referenced.
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Så der er punkter, og disse punkter henviser til hinanden.
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And there's a verification taking place.
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Og der er en bekræftelsesproces i gang.
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Sometimes they're really small purchases.
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Nogle gange er det virkelig små køb.
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So 34 cents foreign transaction fee.
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34 cent for udlandsoverførsel.
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All of these are extracted directly from my bank accounts,
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Alt dette bliver taget direkte fra mine bankkonti,
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and everything pops up right away.
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og alt kommer op med det samme.
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Sometimes there's a lot of information.
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Nogle gange er der meget information.
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This is exactly where my old apartment in San Francisco was.
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Det her er præcist, hvor min gamle lejlighed lå i San Francisco.
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And then sometimes you get this.
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Nogle gange får man det her op.
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Sometimes you just get this, just an empty hallway in Salt Lake City,
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Nogle gang får man blot dette, en tom gang i Salt Lake City,
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January 22nd.
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Den 22. januar.
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And I can tell you exactly who I was with, where I was,
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Og jeg kan fortælle jer præcist, hvem jeg var med, hvor jeg var,
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because this is what I had to do with the FBI.
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fordi det var det, jeg var nødt til at fortælle FBI.
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I had to tell them every little detail of everything.
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Jeg var nødt til at fortælle enhver lille detalje om alting.
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I spend a lot of time on the road.
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Jeg brugte en del tid på farten.
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This is a parking lot in Elko, Nevada
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Det her er en parkeringsplads i Elko i Nevada
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off of Route 80
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ved rute 80
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at 8:01 p.m. on August 19th.
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kl. 20:01 den 19. august.
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I spend a lot of time in gas stations too -- empty train stations.
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Jeg brugte også en del tid på benzinstationer -- tomme togstationer.
08:29
So there's multiple databases.
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Så der er et væld af databaser.
08:31
And there's thousands and thousands and thousands of images.
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Og der er tusindvis og atter tusindvis af billeder.
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There's actually 46,000 images right now on my site,
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Der er faktisk 46.000 billeder på mit site lige nu,
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and the FBI has seen all of them --
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og FBI har set dem alle --
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at least I trust they've seen all of them.
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jeg regner i hvert fald med, at de har set dem.
08:43
And then sometimes you don't get much information at all,
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Indimellem får man ikke meget information,
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you just get this empty bed.
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man ser kun denne tomme seng.
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And sometimes you get a lot of text information and no visual information.
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Nogle gang får man en masse tekst og ingen visuel information.
08:51
So you get something like this.
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Så ser man sådan noget som det her.
08:53
This, by the way, is the location of my favorite sandwich shop in California --
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Her ligger i øvrigt min yndlingssandwichbutik i Californien
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Vietnamese sandwich.
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vietnamesisk sandwich.
08:57
So there's different categorizations
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Så der er forskellige kategoriseringer
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of meals eaten outside
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af måltider spist uden for
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empty train stations, empty gas stations.
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tomme togstationer, tomme benzinstationer
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These are some of the meals that I've been cooking at home.
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Det her er nogle af de måltider, jeg har tilberedt hjemme.
09:06
So how do you know these are meals eaten at home?
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Så hvordan ved man så, at de måltider er spist hjemme?
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Well the same plate shows up a whole bunch of times.
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Den samme tallerken dukker op flere gange.
09:11
So again, you have to do some detective work here.
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Så igen, man er nødt til at lege detektiv her.
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So sometimes the databases get so specific.
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Nogle gange bliver databaserne meget specifikke.
09:17
These are all tacos eaten in Mexico City
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Alle de her er tacos indtaget i Mexico City
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near a train station
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i nærheden af en togstation
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on July fifth to July sixth.
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fra 5. til 6. juli.
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At 11:39 a.m. was this one.
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Denne kl. 11:39.
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At 1:56 p.m. was this one. At 4:59 p.m. was this one.
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Denne kl. 13:56. Og kl. 16:59 var det denne.
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So I time-stamp my life every few moments.
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Så jeg sætter løbende et tidsstempel på mit liv.
09:32
Every few moments I shoot the image.
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Indimellem tager jeg et billede.
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Now it's all done on my iPhone,
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Nu bliver alt gjort på min iPhone,
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and it all goes straight up to my server,
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og det bliver lagt direkte op på min server,
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and my server does all the backend work
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og min server klarer resten af arbejdet
09:40
and categorizes things and puts everything together.
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og kategoriserer tingene og sætter alt sammen.
09:43
They need to know where I'm doing my business,
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De har behov for at vide, hvor jeg gør mine ærinder,
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because they want to know about my business.
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for de vil vide alt om mine ærinder.
09:48
So on December 4th, I went here.
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Så den 4. december var jeg her.
09:51
And on Sunday, June 14th at 2009 --
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Og søndag den 14. juni 2009 --
09:54
this was actually about two o'clock in the afternoon
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det var faktisk omkring kl. 2 om eftermiddagen
09:56
in Skowhegan, Maine -- this was my apartment there.
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i Skowhegan i Maine -- det var min lejlighed der.
09:58
So what you're basically seeing here
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Så det, I egentlig ser her,
10:01
is all bits and pieces and all this information.
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er små dele og brikker og al denne information.
10:03
If you go to my site, there's tons of things.
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Hvis man går ind på mit site, finder man masser af ting.
10:06
And really, it's not the most user-friendly interface.
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Indrømmet, det er ikke det mest brugervenlige interface.
10:09
It's actually quite user-unfriendly.
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Det er faktisk meget bruger-uvenligt.
10:13
And one of the reasons, also being part of the user-unfriendliness,
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En af grundene til det, hvilket også er en del af det,
10:15
is that everything is there,
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er, at alt er der,
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but you have to really work through it.
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men man er nødt til arbejde sig igennem det.
10:19
So by me putting all this information out there,
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Så ved, at jeg lægger al denne information ud,
10:23
what I'm basically telling you is I'm telling you everything.
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fortæller jeg jer egentlig alting.
10:26
But in this barrage of noise
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Men midt i denne støjmur
10:28
that I'm putting out,
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som jeg bygger op,
10:30
I actually live an incredibly anonymous and private life.
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lever jeg faktisk et meget anonymt og privat liv.
10:34
And you know very little about me actually.
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I ved faktisk meget lidt om mig.
10:38
And really so I've come to the conclusion
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Jeg er derfor kommet til den konklusion,
10:41
that the way you protect your privacy,
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at måden at beskytte sit privatliv på,
10:43
particularly in an era where everything is cataloged
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især i en tid, hvor alt bliver katalogiseret
10:45
and everything is archived and everything is recorded,
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og alt bliver arkiveret og optaget,
10:47
there's no need to delete information anymore.
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så er der ikke længere behov for at slette information.
10:50
So what do you do when everything is out there?
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Så hvad gør man så, når alt er derude?
10:53
Well you have to take control over it.
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Man tager kontrol over det.
10:55
And if I give you this information directly,
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Når jeg giver jer denne information direkte,
10:58
it's a very different type of identity
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er det en helt anden form for identitet,
11:01
than if you were to try to go through and try to get bits and pieces.
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end hvis man prøvede at gå det hele igennem og få fat på alle små dele.
11:04
The other thing that's also interesting that's going on here
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En anden interessant ting ved det her
11:07
is the fact that intelligence agencies --
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er det faktum, at efterretningstjenester --
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and it doesn't matter who they are --
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og det er ligegyldigt hvilken --
11:12
they all operate in an industry
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de opererer i en niche --
11:14
where their commodity is information,
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hvor deres handelsvare er information,
11:16
or restricted access to information.
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eller begrænset adgang til information.
11:18
And the reason their information has any value
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Grunden til, at deres information har værdi,
11:21
is, well, because no one else has access to it.
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er fordi ingen andre har adgang til det.
11:24
And by me cutting out the middle man
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Og ved, at jeg skærer mellemleddet væk
11:26
and giving it straight to you,
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og giver det direkte til jer,
11:29
the information that the FBI has has no value,
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så har FBIs informationer ingen værdi,
11:32
so thus devaluing their currency.
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hvilket er en devaluering af deres valuta.
11:35
And I understand that, on an individual level,
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Jeg kan godt forstå, at på det individuelle plan,
11:37
it's purely symbolic.
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er det kun symbolsk.
11:39
But if 300 million people in the U.S.
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Men hvis 300 mio. mennesker i USA
11:41
started doing this,
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begyndte at gøre dette,
11:43
we would have to redesign the entire intelligence system
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så ville vi skulle omtænke hele efterretningstjenesten
11:45
from the ground up.
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helt fra bunden.
11:47
Because it just wouldn't work if everybody was sharing everything.
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Fordi det ville ikke fungere, hvis alle delte alt.
11:50
And we're getting to that.
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Og det er det punkt, vi er ved at nå.
11:52
When I first started this project,
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Da jeg først startede dette projekt,
11:54
people were looking at me and saying,
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kiggede folk på mig og sagde:
11:56
"Why would you want to tell everybody what you're doing, where you're at?
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"Hvorfor vil du fortælle alle, hvad du laver, hvor du er?
11:59
Why are you posting these photos?"
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Hvorfor slår du de billeder op?"
12:01
This was an age before people were Tweeting everywhere
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Det var før folk begyndte at twitte alle vegne,
12:05
and 750 million people
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og 750 mio. mennesker
12:08
were posting status messages
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slog statusbeskeder op
12:10
or poking people.
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eller prikkede til hinanden.
12:12
So in a way, I'm glad that I'm completely obsolete.
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Så på en måde er jeg glad for, at jeg er helt overflødig.
12:15
I'm still doing this project, but it is obsolete,
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Jeg er stadig i gang med dette projekt, men det er overflødigt,
12:18
because you're all doing it.
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fordi I gør det allesammen.
12:20
This is something that we all are doing on a daily basis,
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Det er noget, vi gør hver dag,
12:22
whether we're aware of it or not.
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uanset om vi er klar over det eller ej.
12:24
So we're creating our own archives and so on.
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Så vi skaber vores egne arkiver.
12:27
And you know, some of my friends have always said,
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Nogle af mine venner har altid sagt til mig:
12:30
"Hey, you're just paranoid. Why are you doing this?
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"Hey, du er bare paranoid. Hvorfor gør du det her?
12:32
Because no one's really watching.
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For der er ingen, der holder øje.
12:34
No one's really going to bother you."
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Der er heller ingen, der vil genere dig."
12:36
So one of the things that I do
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Så en af de ting, jeg gør,
12:38
is I actually look through my server logs very carefully.
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er at gå nøje igennem mine server logs.
12:40
Because it's about surveillance.
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Fordi det drejer sig om overvågning.
12:42
I'm watching who's watching me.
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Jeg holder øje med, hvem der holder øje med mig.
12:45
And I came up with these.
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Jeg lavede så disse.
12:47
So these are some of my sample logs.
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Det er uddrag af mine logs.
12:49
And just little bits and pieces, and you can see some of the things there.
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Små dele og bidder, og man kan se lidt forskelligt der.
12:52
And I cleaned up the list a little bit so you can see.
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Jeg rensede en smule ud i listen.
12:55
So you can see that the Homeland Security likes to come by --
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Så man kan se, at Homeland Security kigger forbi --
12:58
Department of Homeland Security.
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Departementet for Indre Sikkerhed.
13:00
You can see the National Security Agency likes to come by.
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Man kan se, at det Nationale Sikkerhedsagentur kigger forbi.
13:02
I actually moved very close to them. I live right down the street from them now.
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Jeg flyttede faktisk ret tæt på dem. Jeg bor lidt længere nede af samme gade som dem.
13:06
Central Intelligence Agency.
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CIA.
13:08
Executive Office of the President.
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Præsidentens kontor.
13:12
Not really sure why they show up, but they do.
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Ved ikke helt, hvorfor det kommer op, men det gør det.
13:15
I think they kind of like to look at art.
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Jeg tror, de på en måde godt kan lide kunst.
13:17
And I'm glad that we have patrons of the arts in these fields.
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Og jeg er glad for, at vi har kunstelskere indenfor dette område.
13:21
So thank you very much. I appreciate it.
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Mange tak, tak skal I have.
13:23
(Applause)
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(Klapsalver)
13:33
Bruno Giussani: Hasan, just curious.
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Bruno Giussani: Hasan, blot af nysgerrighed.
13:35
You said, "Now everything automatically goes from my iPhone,"
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Du sagde: "Nu går alt automatisk via min iPhone,"
13:38
but actually you do take the pictures and put on information.
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men faktisk så tager du billeder og tilføjer information.
13:40
So how many hours of the day does that take?
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Så hvor mange timer tager det i løbet af en dag?
13:43
HE: Almost none.
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HE: Næsten ingen.
13:45
It's no different
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Det er ligesom
13:47
than sending a text.
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at sende en sms.
13:49
It's no different than checking an email.
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Det er ligesom at tjekke mail.
13:52
It's one of those things, we got by just fine before we had to do any of those.
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Det er en af de ting, som vi klarede os fint uden, inden de var der.
13:54
So it's just become another day.
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Så det er blevet en hverdagsting.
13:56
I mean, when we update a status message,
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Jeg mener, når vi opdaterer en statusbesked,
13:58
we don't really think about how long that's going to take.
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så tænker vi ikke over, hvor lang tid det tager.
14:01
So it's really just a matter of my phone clicking a couple of clicks,
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Så det er faktisk bare et par klik på min telefon,
14:03
send, and then it's done.
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send, og så er det gjort.
14:05
And everything's automated at the other end.
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Og alt er automatiseret i den anden ende.
14:07
BG: On the day you are in a place where there is no coverage, the FBI gets crazy?
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BG: Hvad så, hvis du er et sted uden dækning, bliver FBI så helt vilde?
14:10
HE: Well it goes to the last point that I was at.
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HE: Så går det tilbage til det sidste sted, jeg var.
14:12
So it holds onto the very last point.
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Så det holder fast i det sidste sted.
14:14
So if I'm on a 12-hour flight,
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Så hvis jeg er på en 12 timers flyrejse,
14:16
you'll see the last airport that I departed from.
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vil du se den lufthavn, hvor jeg lettede fra.
14:19
BG: Hasan, thank you very much. (HE: Thank you.)
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BG: Hasan, mange tak. Tak.
14:22
(Applause)
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(Klapsalver)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Hasan Elahi - Privacy artistIn 2002, American artist Hasan Elahi’s name was added (by mistake) to the US government’s watch list.
Why you should listen
That led to an intensive investigation by the FBI. After months of interrogations, Elahi was finally cleared of suspicions but advised to keep the FBI informed of his whereabouts. Which he did -- fully, by opening up just about every aspect of his life to the public. What started with a practicality grew into an open-ended art project, with Elahi posting photos of his minute-by-minute life online (hotel rooms, airports, meals, receipts, bathrooms), tracking himself on Google Maps, releasing communication records, banking transactions and transportation logs, and more. The project questions the consequences of living under constant surveillance, and it has been presented at Centre Pompidou in Paris and at the Venice Biennale, among others. He is an associate professor of Art at University of Maryland, roughly equidistant from the CIA, FBI and NSA headquarters.
Hasan Elahi | Speaker | TED.com