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Hasan Elahi: FBI, here I am!
Hasan Elahi: FBI, ovdje sam!
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Nakon što je zabunom završio na popisu za nadzor, Hasanu Elahiju lokalni agenti FBI-a savjetovali su da ih obavijesti svaki put kad bude namjeravao putovati. Učinio je to i više od toga...mnogo više.
Hasan Elahi - Privacy artist
In 2002, American artist Hasan Elahi’s name was added (by mistake) to the US government’s watch list. Full bio
In 2002, American artist Hasan Elahi’s name was added (by mistake) to the US government’s watch list. Full bio
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Hi there. I'm Hasan. I'm an artist.
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Bok svima, ja sam Hasan. Umjetnik sam.
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And usually when I tell people I'm an artist,
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Inače kad kažem ljudima da sam umjetnik
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they just look at me and say, "Do you paint?"
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samo me gledaju i kažu: "Slikaš li?"
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or "What kind of medium do you work in?"
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ili " U kakvom mediju radiš?"
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Well most of my work that I work with
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Većina rada kojim se bavim
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is really a little bit about methodologies of working
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zapravo je više o metodologiji rada
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rather than actually a specific discipline
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nego o nekoj specifičnoj disciplini
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or a specific technique.
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ili specifičnoj tehnici.
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So what I'm really interested in is creative problem solving.
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Ono što me zaista zanima jest kreativno rješavanje problema.
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And I had a little bit of a problem a few years ago.
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A imao sam malih problema prije nekoliko godina.
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So let me show you a little of that.
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Pokazat ću vam nešto od toga.
00:43
So it started over here.
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Počelo je ovdje.
00:45
And this is the Detroit airport in June 19th of 2002.
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A to je zračna luka u Detroitu 19. lipnja 2002.
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I was flying back to the U.S. from an exhibition overseas.
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Vraćao sam se u SAD s izložbe u inozemstvu.
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And as I was coming back,
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Kad sam se vraćao,
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well I was taken by the FBI, met by an FBI agent,
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presreo me FBI, prišao mi je agent FBI-a,
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and went into a little room
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ušli smo u malu sobu,
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and he asked me all sorts of questions --
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i on me pitao svakakva pitanja --
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"Where were you? What were you doing? Who were you talking with?
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"Gdje ste bili? Što ste radili? S kime ste razgovarali?
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Why were you there? Who pays for your trips?" --
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Zašto ste bili ondje? Tko Vam plaća putovanja?" --
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all these little details.
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sve te sitne pojedinosti.
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And then literally just out of nowhere,
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A tada, doslovce iz vedra neba,
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the guy asks me, "Where were you September 12th?"
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tip me upita: "Gdje ste bili 12. rujna?"
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And when most of us get asked, "Where were you September 12th?"
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Kad se većinu nas pita: "Gjde ste bili 12. rujna?"
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or any date for that fact,
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ili zapravo bilo kojeg drugog datuma,
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it's like, "I don't exactly remember, but I can look it up for you."
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kažemo: "Ne sjećam se točno, ali mogu provjeriti."
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So I pulled out my little PDA,
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Tako sam izvukao svoj dlanovnik
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and I said, "Okay, let's look up my appointments for September 12th."
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i rekao: " OK, pogledajmo moje sastanke 12. rujna."
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I had September 12th -- from 10:00 a.m. to 10:30 a.m., I paid my storage bill.
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12. rujna imao sam -- od 10 h do 10:30 platio sam račun za skladištenje.
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From 10:30 a.m. to 12:00 p.m., I met with Judith who was one of my graduate students at the time.
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Od 10:30 do 12 susreo sam se s Judith, koja je tada bila moja studentica.
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From 12:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m., I taught my intro class,
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Od 12 do 15 h poučavao sam studente prve godine,
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3:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m., I taught my advanced class.
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i od 15 do 18 h poučavao sam na naprednom kolegiju.
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"Where were you the 11th?" "Where were you the 10th?"
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"Gdje ste bili 11.? Gdje ste bili 10.?"
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"Where were you the 29th? the 30th?"
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"Gdje ste bili 29., 30.?"
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"Where were you October 5th?"
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"Gdje ste bili 5. listopada?"
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We read about six months of my calendar.
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Pročitali smo oko šest mjeseci iz mog kalendara.
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And I don't think he was expecting me to have such detailed records
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Mislim da nije očekivao da imam tako detaljnu evidenciju
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of what I did.
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o tome što sam radio.
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But good thing I did,
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Ali dobro da jesam
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because I don't look good in orange.
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jer mi narančasto baš ne stoji.
01:52
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
01:54
So he asked me --
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Zatim me pitao --
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
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"So this storage unit that you paid the rent on,
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"Dakle, skladište, za koje ste plaćali najam,
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what did you have in it?"
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što ste imali u njemu?"
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This was in Tampa, Florida,
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To je bilo u Tampi, na Floridi,
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so I was like, "Winter clothes that I have no use for in Florida.
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pa sam rekao: "Zimsku odjeću koju na Floridi ne trebam.
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Furniture that I can't fit in my ratty apartment.
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Namještaj koji ne stane u moj šugavi stan.
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Just assorted garage sale junk,
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Različite stvari s rasprodaja,
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because I'm a pack rat."
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jer skupljam rabljene stvari."
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And he looks at me really confused and says, "No explosives?"
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Gledao me zbunjeno i upitao: "Nije bilo eksploziva?"
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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I was like, "No, no. I'm pretty certain there were no explosives.
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Rekoh: "Ne, ne. Prilično sam siguran da nije bilo eksploziva.
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And if there were, I would have remembered that one."
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Kad bi ga bilo, toga bih se sigurno sjetio."
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And he's still a little confused,
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I dalje je bio zbunjen,
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but I think that anyone who talks to me for more than a couple of minutes
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ali mislim da svatko tko sa mnom razgovara više od nekoliko minuta
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realizes I'm not exactly a terrorist threat.
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shvati da ja i nisam baš neka teroristička prijetnja.
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And so we're sitting there,
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I tako smo sjedili ondje,
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and eventually after about an hour, hour and a half of just going back and forth,
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i na kraju, otprilike nakon sat, sat i pol natezanja,
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he says, "Okay, I have enough information here.
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rekao je: "OK, imam dovoljno informacija.
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I'm going to pass this onto the Tampa office. They're the ones who initiated this.
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Proslijedit ću to uredu u Tampi. Oni su ovo pokrenuli.
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They'll follow up with you, and we'll take care of it."
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Oni će vam se javiti, a mi ćemo se za to pobrinuti."
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I was like, "Great."
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Rekoh: "Odlično."
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So I got home and the phone rings,
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Stigao sam kući, telefon je zazvonio,
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and a man introduced himself.
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i čovjek se predstavio.
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Basically this is the FBI offices in Tampa
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Uglavnom, to je bio ured FBI-a u Tampi,
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where I spent six months of my life --
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gdje sam proveo šest mjeseci života --
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back and forth, not six months continuously.
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povremeno, ne kontinuirano šest mjeseci.
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By the way, you folks know that in the United States,
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Usput, ljudi, znate li da u SAD-u
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you can't take photographs of federal buildings,
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ne smijete fotografirati savezne zgrade,
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but Google can do it for you.
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ali Google to može učiniti za vas?
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So to the folks from Google, thank you.
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Dakle, hvala ljudima iz Googlea.
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
03:11
So I spent a lot of time in this building.
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Dakle, proveo sam mnogo vremena u ovoj zgradi.
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Questions like:
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Pitanja poput:
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"Have you ever witnessed or participated in any act
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"Jeste li ikad svjedočili ili sudjelovali u ikakvom činu
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that may be detrimental to the United States or a foreign nation?"
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koji bi mogao biti štetan za SAD ili neku stranu naciju?"
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And you also have to consider the state of mind you're in
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Morate uzeti u obzir i stanje svijesti u kojem se nalazite
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when you're doing this.
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kad to radite.
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You're basically face-to-face with someone
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Suočeni ste licem u lice s nekim
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that essentially decides life or death.
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tko u suštini odlučuje o vašem životu i smrti.
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Or questions such as -- actually, during the polygraph,
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Ili pitanja kao npr. -- zapravo, za vrijeme testiranja poligrafom,
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which was how it finally ended after nine consecutive of them --
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kako je zapravo konačno završilo nakon njih devet za redom --
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one of the polygraph questions was ...
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jedno od pitanja na poligrafu bilo je --
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well the first one was, "Is your name Hasan?" "Yes."
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no, prvo je bilo: "Je li Vaše ime Hasan?" "Da."
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"Are we in Florida?" "Yes." "Is today Tuesday?" "Yes."
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"Jesmo li na Floridi?", "Da.", " Je li danas utorak?", "Da."
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Because you have to base it on a yes or no.
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Jer odgovori moraju biti "da" ili "ne".
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Then, of course, the next question is:
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Tada, naravno, sljedeće je pitanje:
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"Do you belong to any groups that wish to harm the United States?"
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"Pripadate li kakvoj grupi koja bi željela nauditi SAD-u?"
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I work at a university.
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Radim na sveučilištu.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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So I was like, "Maybe you want to ask some of my colleagues that directly."
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Pa rekoh: "Možda to želite direktno pitati neke od mojih kolega."
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But they said, "Okay, aside from what we had discussed,
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No, oni su rekli: "OK, osim onoga o čemu smo razgovarali,
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do you belong to any groups that wish to harm the United States?"
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pripadate li Vi ikojoj grupi koja želi nauditi SAD-u?"
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I was like, "No."
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Rekoh: "Ne."
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So at the end of six months of this
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Na kraju, nakon šest mjeseci ovoga
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and nine consecutive polygraphs,
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i devet uzastopnih poligrafa,
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they said, "Hey, everything's fine."
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rekli su: "Hej, sve je u redu."
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I was like, "I know. That's what I've been trying to tell you guys all along.
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Rekoh: " Znam. Pa to vam pokušavam reći cijelo vrijeme.
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I know everything's fine."
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Znam da je sve u redu."
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So they're looking at me really odd.
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Pa su me pogledali vrlo čudno.
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And it's like, "Guys, I travel a lot."
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I rekao sam: "Ljudi, ja mnogo putujem."
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This is with the FBI.
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To je kod FBI-a.
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And I was like, "All we need is Alaska not to get the last memo,
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Nastavio sam: "Ako Aljaska ne dobije najnoviji dopis,
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and here we go all over again."
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sve će opet krenuti ispočetka."
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And there was a sincere concern there.
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Bila je to iskrena zabrinutost.
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And he was like, "You know, if you get into trouble,
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Rekao je: "Znate, ako zapadnete u nevolje,
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give us a call -- we'll take care of it."
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nazovite nas -- pobrinut ćemo se za to."
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So ever since then, before I would go anywhere, I would call the FBI.
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Od tada, prije nego bih ikamo otputovao, uvijek sam nazvao FBI.
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I would tell them, "Hey guys, this is where I'm going. This is my flight.
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Rekao bih im: " Hej, dečki, evo kamo putujem. Ovo je moj let.
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Northwest flight seven coming into Seattle
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Northwestov let br. 7 sa slijetanjem u Seattleu
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on March 12th" or whatever.
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12. ožujka" ili kako već.
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A couple weeks later, I'd call again, let them know.
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Nakon nekoliko tjedana opet sam zvao, obavijestio ih.
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It wasn't that I had to, but I chose to.
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Nije bilo potrebno, ali odlučio sam da hoću.
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Just wanted to say, "Hey guys.
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Htio sam im poručiti: "Hej, dečki,
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Don't want to make it look like I'm making any sudden moves."
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ne želim da pomislite da radim neke iznenadne poteze."
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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"I don't want you guys to think that I'm about to flee.
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"Neću da pomislite da želim pobjeći.
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Just letting you know. Heads up."
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Samo vas obavještavam. Tek toliko da znate."
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And so I just kept doing this over and over and over.
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I to sam i dalje uporno radio.
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And then the phone calls turned into emails,
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Onda su se telefonski pozivi pretvorili u e-mailove,
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and the emails got longer and longer and longer ...
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koji su postajali sve dulji i dulji...
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with pictures,
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s fotografijama
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with travel tips.
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i savjetima za putovanja.
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Then I'd make websites.
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Zatim sam radio web stranice.
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And then I built this over here. Let me go back to it over here.
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A onda sam izgradio ovo. Vratio bih se na ovo ovdje.
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So I actually designed this back in 2003.
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Ovo sam dizajnirao 2003. godine.
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So this kind of tracks me at any given moment.
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To me prati u svakom trenutku.
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I wrote some code for my mobile phone.
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Napisao sam kȏd za svoj mobitel.
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Basically, what I decided is okay guys, you want to watch me, that's cool.
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Odlučio sam, u redu, dečki, želite me nadgledati, može.
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But I'll watch myself. It's okay.
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Ali ja ću sam sebe nadgledati. To je OK.
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You don't have to waste your energy or your resources.
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Nećete morati trošiti svoju energiju ili sredstva.
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And I'll help you out.
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Pomoći ću vam.
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So in the process, I start thinking, well what else might they know about me?
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I tako sam počeo razmišljati što još oni možda znaju o meni?
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Well they probably have all my flight records,
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Vjerojatno imaju podatke o svim mojim letovima,
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so I decided to put all my flight records from birth online.
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pa sam odlučio objaviti sve podatke o svojim letovima od svog rođenja.
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So you can see, Delta 1252
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Vidite, Delta 1252,
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going from Kansas City to Atlanta.
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let od Kansas Cityja do Atlante.
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And then you see, these are some of the meals that I've been fed on the planes.
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Vidite, ovo su neka od jela koja sam dobio u zrakoplovima.
05:52
This was on Delta 719
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Ovo je bilo na letu Delta 719
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going from JFK to San Francisco.
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od New Yorka prema San Franciscu.
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See that? They won't let me on a plane with that,
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Vidite ovo? Neće me pustiti u avion s tim,
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but they'll give it to me on the plane.
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ali dat će mi ga na avionu.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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These are the airports that I hang out in,
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Ovo su aerodromi na kojima se zadržavam,
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because I like airports.
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jer volim aerodrome.
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That's Kennedy airport, May 19th, Tuesday.
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To je aerodrom Kennedy, 19. svibnja, utorak.
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This is in Warsaw.
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Ovo je u Varšavi.
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Singapore. You can see, they're kind of empty.
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Singapur. Vidite da su nekako prazni.
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These images are shot really anonymously
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Ove su fotografije snimljene zaista anonimno
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to the point where it could be anyone.
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tako da bi to lako mogao biti bilo tko.
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But if you can cross-reference this with the other data,
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No, ako ovo usporedite s drugim podacima,
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then you're basically replaying the roll of the FBI agent
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tada zapravo igrate ulogu FBI-evog agenta
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and putting it all together.
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i sastavljate sve zajedno u cjelinu.
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And when you're in a situation
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Kad ste u situaciji
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where you have to justify every moment of your existence,
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gdje morate opravdati svaki trenutak svojeg postojanja,
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you're put in the situation where you react in a very different manner.
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stavljeni ste u situaciju u kojoj reagirate mnogo drugačije.
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At the time that this was going on,
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Kad se sve ovo događalo,
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the last thing on my mind was "art project."
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zadnje što mi je bilo na pameti bio je "umjetnički projekt".
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I was certainly not thinking, hey, I got new work here.
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Sigurno nisam mislio, hej, evo mi novog posla.
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But after going through this, after realizing, well what just happened?
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No, kad sam promišljao o tome što se zapravo dogodilo
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And after piecing together this, this and this,
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i nakon što sam sastavio ovo, ovo i ovo,
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this way of actually trying to figure out what happened for myself
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način na koji sam pokušavao shvatiti što mi se dogodilo
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eventually evolved into this,
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s vremenom se razvio u ovo
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and it actually became this project.
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i zapravo je postalo ovaj projekt.
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So these are the stores that I shop in -- some of them --
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Ovo su dućani u kojima kupujem -- neki od njih --
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because they need to know.
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jer trebaju znati.
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This is me buying some duck flavored paste
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Ovdje ja kupujem pastu s okusom patke
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at the Ranch 99 in Daly City
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u trgovini Ranch 99, u Daly Cityju
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on Sunday, November 15th.
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u nedjelju, 15. studenog.
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At Coreana Supermarket
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U supermarketu Coreana
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buying my kimchi because I like kimchi.
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kupujem kimči, jer volim kimči.
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And I bought some crabs too right around there,
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A kupio sam i nekoliko rakova u blizini
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and some chitlins at the Safeway in Emoryville.
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i nešto iznutrica u Safewayu u Emoryvilleu.
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And laundry too. Laundry detergent at West Oakland --
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I rublje. Sredstvo za pranje rublja u zapadnom Oaklandu --
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East Oakland, sorry.
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istočnom Oaklandu, oprostite.
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And then my pickled jellyfish
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I ukiseljene meduze
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at the Hong Kong Supermarket on Route 18 in East Brunswick.
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u supermarketu Hong Kong na cesti Route 18, u istočnom Brunswicku.
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Now if you go to my bank records,
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Ako pogledamo moje bankovne izvještaje,
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it'll actually show something from there,
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oni će pokazati nešto iz tih krajeva
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so you know that, on May 9th,
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tako da znate da sam 9. svibnja
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that I bought $14.79 in fuel from Safeway Vallejo.
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za 14,79 dolara kupio gorivo u Safewayu u Valleju.
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So not only that I'm giving this information here and there,
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Dakle, ne samo da dijelim takve informacije,
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but now there's a third party,
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nego postoji i treća strana,
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an independent third party, my bank,
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neovisna treća strana, moja banka
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that's verifying that, yes indeed, I was there at this time.
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koja potvrđuje da sam zaista tada bio ondje.
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So there's points, and these points are actually being cross-referenced.
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To su različite točke koje je moguće unakrsno provjeriti.
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And there's a verification taking place.
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Događa se verifikacija.
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Sometimes they're really small purchases.
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Ponekad se radi o doista malim iznosima.
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So 34 cents foreign transaction fee.
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Trošak međunarodne transakcije u iznosu 34 centa.
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All of these are extracted directly from my bank accounts,
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Sve je to moguće vidjeti direktno iz mojih bankovnih računa,
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and everything pops up right away.
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sve je odmah dostupno.
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Sometimes there's a lot of information.
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Ponekad ima mnogo informacija.
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This is exactly where my old apartment in San Francisco was.
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Upravo ovdje bio je moj stari stan u San Franciscu.
08:06
And then sometimes you get this.
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A onda ponekad dobijete i ovo.
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Sometimes you just get this, just an empty hallway in Salt Lake City,
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Ponekad dobijete ovo, prazan hodnik u Salt Lake Cityju,
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January 22nd.
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22. siječnja.
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And I can tell you exactly who I was with, where I was,
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Točno vam mogu reći s kime sam bio, gdje sam bio,
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because this is what I had to do with the FBI.
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jer to je ono što sam morao reći FBI-u.
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I had to tell them every little detail of everything.
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Morao sam im reći svaku malu pojedinost o svemu.
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I spend a lot of time on the road.
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Mnogo vremena provodim na putu.
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This is a parking lot in Elko, Nevada
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Ovdje je parkiralište u Elku, u Nevadi,
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off of Route 80
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na izlazu s ceste Route 80
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at 8:01 p.m. on August 19th.
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u 20:01 h, 19. kolovoza.
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I spend a lot of time in gas stations too -- empty train stations.
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Provodim mnogo vremena i na benzinskim crpkama... praznim željezničkim stanicama.
08:29
So there's multiple databases.
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Ovdje je više baza podataka.
08:31
And there's thousands and thousands and thousands of images.
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I ovdje su na tisuće i tisuće fotografija..
08:34
There's actually 46,000 images right now on my site,
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u ovom trenutku na mojoj stranici nalazi se 46 000 fotografija,
08:37
and the FBI has seen all of them --
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a FBI ih je sve vidio --
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at least I trust they've seen all of them.
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barem vjerujem da su ih sve vidjeli.
08:43
And then sometimes you don't get much information at all,
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A ponekad uopće ne dobijete mnogo informacija,
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you just get this empty bed.
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dobijete samo ovakav prazan krevet.
08:48
And sometimes you get a lot of text information and no visual information.
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A ponekad dobijete mnogo teksta bez slike.
08:51
So you get something like this.
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Pa dobijete nešto ovakvo.
08:53
This, by the way, is the location of my favorite sandwich shop in California --
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Ovo je, inače, lokacija mog omiljenog dućana sa sendvičima u Kaliforniji --
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Vietnamese sandwich.
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Vijetnamski sendvič.
08:57
So there's different categorizations
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Postoje različite kategorije
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of meals eaten outside
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jela koja sam pojeo vani,
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empty train stations, empty gas stations.
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praznih željezničkih stanica, praznih benzinskih crpki.
09:04
These are some of the meals that I've been cooking at home.
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Ovo su neka od jela koja sam kuhao kod kuće.
09:06
So how do you know these are meals eaten at home?
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Kako znate da sam ih pojeo kod kuće?
09:08
Well the same plate shows up a whole bunch of times.
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Jer se mnogo puta pojavljuje isti tanjur.
09:11
So again, you have to do some detective work here.
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I opet, morate biti pomalo detektivski nastrojeni.
09:14
So sometimes the databases get so specific.
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Ponekad baze podataka postanu vrlo specifične.
09:17
These are all tacos eaten in Mexico City
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Ovdje su svi tacosi koje sam jeo u Mexico Cityju
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near a train station
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blizu željezničke postaje
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on July fifth to July sixth.
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5. i 6. srpnja.
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At 11:39 a.m. was this one.
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Ovaj u 11:39 h.
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At 1:56 p.m. was this one. At 4:59 p.m. was this one.
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U 13:56 ovaj. U 16:59 ovaj.
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So I time-stamp my life every few moments.
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Svoj život tako dokumentiram svakih nekoliko trenutaka.
09:32
Every few moments I shoot the image.
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Svako malo snimim fotografiju.
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Now it's all done on my iPhone,
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Sada sve to radim pomoću iPhonea,
09:36
and it all goes straight up to my server,
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sve ide ravno na moj server,
09:38
and my server does all the backend work
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koji sve odradi,
09:40
and categorizes things and puts everything together.
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razdijeli u kategorije i sve skupa sastavi.
09:43
They need to know where I'm doing my business,
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Moraju znati gdje idem obaviti neke stvari,
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because they want to know about my business.
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jer ih zanima gdje obavljam te stvari.
09:48
So on December 4th, I went here.
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4. prosinca bio sam ovdje.
09:51
And on Sunday, June 14th at 2009 --
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U nedjelju, 14. lipnja 2009...
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this was actually about two o'clock in the afternoon
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bilo je zapravo oko 2 sata poslije podne
09:56
in Skowhegan, Maine -- this was my apartment there.
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u Skowheganu, u Maineu -- ovo je moj stan.
09:58
So what you're basically seeing here
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Ono što zapravo tu vidite,
10:01
is all bits and pieces and all this information.
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dijelovi su informacija.
10:03
If you go to my site, there's tons of things.
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Ako odete na moju stranicu, naći ćete hrpe stvari.
10:06
And really, it's not the most user-friendly interface.
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To sučelje i nije baš najbolje prilagođeno korisniku.
10:09
It's actually quite user-unfriendly.
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Zapravo je prilično neprilagođeno.
10:13
And one of the reasons, also being part of the user-unfriendliness,
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Jedan od razloga i dio te neprilagođenosti korisniku jest
10:15
is that everything is there,
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to da se sve nalazi ondje,
10:17
but you have to really work through it.
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ali se morate probiti kroz to.
10:19
So by me putting all this information out there,
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Time što objavljujem te informacije
10:23
what I'm basically telling you is I'm telling you everything.
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zapravo vam govorim sve.
10:26
But in this barrage of noise
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A u toj buci
10:28
that I'm putting out,
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koju proizvodim
10:30
I actually live an incredibly anonymous and private life.
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zapravo živim nevjerojatno anonimnim i privatnim životom.
10:34
And you know very little about me actually.
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I zapravo o meni znate vrlo malo.
10:38
And really so I've come to the conclusion
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Došao sam do zaključka
10:41
that the way you protect your privacy,
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da za zaštitu privatnosti,
10:43
particularly in an era where everything is cataloged
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naročito u razdoblju kad je sve katalogizirano
10:45
and everything is archived and everything is recorded,
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i arhivirano i zabilježeno,
10:47
there's no need to delete information anymore.
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ne treba više brisati informacije.
10:50
So what do you do when everything is out there?
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Što učiniti kad je sve dostupno?
10:53
Well you have to take control over it.
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Morate uzeti stvar u svoje ruke.
10:55
And if I give you this information directly,
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Ako vam te podatke dajem izravno
10:58
it's a very different type of identity
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to je sasvim drugačija vrsta identiteta
11:01
than if you were to try to go through and try to get bits and pieces.
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nego kad bi netko pokušao pregledati sve i doći do informacija.
11:04
The other thing that's also interesting that's going on here
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Druga zanimljiva stvar koja se događa
11:07
is the fact that intelligence agencies --
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da obavještajne službe,
11:09
and it doesn't matter who they are --
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bez obzira koje,
11:12
they all operate in an industry
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djeluju u branši
11:14
where their commodity is information,
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čija su roba informacije,
11:16
or restricted access to information.
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odnosno ograničen pristup informacijama.
11:18
And the reason their information has any value
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Razlog zašto njihove informacije imaju ikakvu vrijednost
11:21
is, well, because no one else has access to it.
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jest u tome da nitko drugi nema pristup njima.
11:24
And by me cutting out the middle man
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Ako ja maknem posrednika
11:26
and giving it straight to you,
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i sve vam to ponudim sam,
11:29
the information that the FBI has has no value,
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tada informacije koje ima FBI nemaju nikakvu vrijednost,
11:32
so thus devaluing their currency.
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što devalvira njihovu valutu.
11:35
And I understand that, on an individual level,
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Razumijem da je to na individualnoj razini
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it's purely symbolic.
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sasvim simbolična gesta.
11:39
But if 300 million people in the U.S.
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Ali ako bi 300 milijuna ljudi iz SAD-a
11:41
started doing this,
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počelo to raditi,
11:43
we would have to redesign the entire intelligence system
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morali bismo preoblikovati čitav obavještajni sustav
11:45
from the ground up.
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ispočetka.
11:47
Because it just wouldn't work if everybody was sharing everything.
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Jer kad bi svi dijelili sve, sustav ne bi funkcionirao.
11:50
And we're getting to that.
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I dolazimo do toga.
11:52
When I first started this project,
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Kad sam počeo s ovim projektom,
11:54
people were looking at me and saying,
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ljudi su me gledali i govorili:
11:56
"Why would you want to tell everybody what you're doing, where you're at?
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"Zašto bi svima htio reći što radiš, gdje se nalaziš?"
11:59
Why are you posting these photos?"
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Zašto objavljuješ te fotografije?"
12:01
This was an age before people were Tweeting everywhere
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To je bilo prije nego što su ljudi posvuda počeli s tvitanjem
12:05
and 750 million people
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i prije nego što je 750 milijuna ljudi
12:08
were posting status messages
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objavljivalo statuse
12:10
or poking people.
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ili bockalo druge ljude.
12:12
So in a way, I'm glad that I'm completely obsolete.
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Na neki me način veseli da sam posve zastario.
12:15
I'm still doing this project, but it is obsolete,
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I dalje nastavljam s projektom, ali on je zastario
12:18
because you're all doing it.
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jer svi to rade.
12:20
This is something that we all are doing on a daily basis,
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Svi mi to svakodnevno radimo,
12:22
whether we're aware of it or not.
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bili mi toga svjesni ili ne.
12:24
So we're creating our own archives and so on.
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Stvaramo svoje vlastite arhive.
12:27
And you know, some of my friends have always said,
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Znate, neki su mi prijatelji uvijek govorili:
12:30
"Hey, you're just paranoid. Why are you doing this?
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"Ti si paranoičan. Zašto to radiš?
12:32
Because no one's really watching.
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Nitko te zapravo ne prati.
12:34
No one's really going to bother you."
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Nitko te neće uznemiravati."
12:36
So one of the things that I do
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Tako je jedna od stvari koje radim
12:38
is I actually look through my server logs very carefully.
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da detaljno pregledavam zapise na serveru.
12:40
Because it's about surveillance.
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Jer radi se o nadzoru.
12:42
I'm watching who's watching me.
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Promatram one koji mene promatraju.
12:45
And I came up with these.
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I došao sam do ovoga.
12:47
So these are some of my sample logs.
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Ovo su primjeri zapisa.
12:49
And just little bits and pieces, and you can see some of the things there.
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To su sitnice, komadići informacija, kao što vidite.
12:52
And I cleaned up the list a little bit so you can see.
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Malo sam očistio popis tako da lakše vidite.
12:55
So you can see that the Homeland Security likes to come by --
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Odmah je vidljivo da Ured za unutrašnju sigurnost rado navraća...
12:58
Department of Homeland Security.
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Ured za unutarnju sigurnost.
13:00
You can see the National Security Agency likes to come by.
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Vidite da Agencija za nacionalnu sigurnost rado svraća.
13:02
I actually moved very close to them. I live right down the street from them now.
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Zapravo sam se preselio u njihovu blizinu. Živim u istoj ulici.
13:06
Central Intelligence Agency.
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Središnja obavještajna agencija (CIA).
13:08
Executive Office of the President.
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Izvršni ured predsjednika.
13:12
Not really sure why they show up, but they do.
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Ne znam zašto oni dolaze, ali eto.
13:15
I think they kind of like to look at art.
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Mislim da rado gledaju umjetnost.
13:17
And I'm glad that we have patrons of the arts in these fields.
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I veseli me da imamo pristaše umjetnosti u tim branšama.
13:21
So thank you very much. I appreciate it.
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Hvala vam lijepa. Cijenim to.
13:23
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
13:33
Bruno Giussani: Hasan, just curious.
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Bruno Giussani: Hasane, nešto me zanima.
13:35
You said, "Now everything automatically goes from my iPhone,"
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Rekao si:" Sada sve ide automatski s mojeg iPhonea,"
13:38
but actually you do take the pictures and put on information.
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ali zapravo ti snimaš fotografije i objavljuješ informacije.
13:40
So how many hours of the day does that take?
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Koliko ti to sati na dan uzme?
13:43
HE: Almost none.
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HE: Skoro ništa.
13:45
It's no different
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Nije ništa drugačije
13:47
than sending a text.
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od slanja poruke.
13:49
It's no different than checking an email.
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Ne razlikuje se od provjeravanja elektronske pošte.
13:52
It's one of those things, we got by just fine before we had to do any of those.
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To je jedna od onih stvari bez koje nam je prije bilo sasvim dobro.
13:54
So it's just become another day.
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Sada je to sasvim uobičajeno.
13:56
I mean, when we update a status message,
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Hoću reći, kad objavimo status,
13:58
we don't really think about how long that's going to take.
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ne razmišljamo o tome koliko će nam to vremena oduzeti.
14:01
So it's really just a matter of my phone clicking a couple of clicks,
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Radi se samo o tome da nekoliko puta kliknem na telefon,
14:03
send, and then it's done.
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pošaljem i gotovo.
14:05
And everything's automated at the other end.
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Na drugoj strani je sve automatizirano.
14:07
BG: On the day you are in a place where there is no coverage, the FBI gets crazy?
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BG: A kad si negdje gdje nema mreže, poludi li FBI?
14:10
HE: Well it goes to the last point that I was at.
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HE: Ne, pogledaju zadnju lokaciju na kojoj sam bio.
14:12
So it holds onto the very last point.
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Uvijek znaju zadnju lokaciju.
14:14
So if I'm on a 12-hour flight,
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Ako sam na 12-satnom letu,
14:16
you'll see the last airport that I departed from.
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vidjet ćete odakle sam zadnje poletio.
14:19
BG: Hasan, thank you very much. (HE: Thank you.)
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BG: Hasane, najljepša hvala. (HE: Hvala vam.)
14:22
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Hasan Elahi - Privacy artistIn 2002, American artist Hasan Elahi’s name was added (by mistake) to the US government’s watch list.
Why you should listen
That led to an intensive investigation by the FBI. After months of interrogations, Elahi was finally cleared of suspicions but advised to keep the FBI informed of his whereabouts. Which he did -- fully, by opening up just about every aspect of his life to the public. What started with a practicality grew into an open-ended art project, with Elahi posting photos of his minute-by-minute life online (hotel rooms, airports, meals, receipts, bathrooms), tracking himself on Google Maps, releasing communication records, banking transactions and transportation logs, and more. The project questions the consequences of living under constant surveillance, and it has been presented at Centre Pompidou in Paris and at the Venice Biennale, among others. He is an associate professor of Art at University of Maryland, roughly equidistant from the CIA, FBI and NSA headquarters.
Hasan Elahi | Speaker | TED.com