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Rodin Lyasoff: How autonomous flying taxis could change the way you travel
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Flight is about to get a lot more personal, says aviation entrepreneur Rodin Lyasoff. In this visionary talk, he imagines a new golden age of air travel in which small, autonomous air taxis allow us to bypass traffic jams and fundamentally transform how we get around our cities and towns. "In the past century, flight connected our planet," Lyasoff says. "In the next, it will reconnect our local communities."
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I love airplanes.
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Oh -- I love airplanes.
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So, when I went to college
in the late 90s,
in the late 90s,
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it was obvious that I was
going to study aerospace.
going to study aerospace.
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And you wouldn't believe
how many people told me,
how many people told me,
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"Oh no, not aerospace.
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Aerospace is going to be boring,
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everything in aerospace
has already been done."
has already been done."
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Well, they were a little bit off the mark.
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And in fact, I think the next decade
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is going to be another
golden age for aviation.
golden age for aviation.
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For one thing, and this is
where I get excited,
where I get excited,
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flight is about to get
a lot more personal.
a lot more personal.
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So, a little compare and contrast.
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In the last century,
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large commercial airplanes
have connected cities across the globe.
have connected cities across the globe.
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And 100 years ago,
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it would have been
unthinkable for all of us
unthinkable for all of us
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to fly here from around the world
for a five-day conference.
for a five-day conference.
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But we did, and most of us
probably without a second thought.
probably without a second thought.
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And that's a remarkable
achievement for humanity.
achievement for humanity.
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But on a day-to-day basis,
we still spend a lot of time in cars.
we still spend a lot of time in cars.
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Or actively trying to avoid it.
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Some of my best friends
live in San Francisco,
live in San Francisco,
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I live in Mountain View,
about 40 miles away.
about 40 miles away.
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We're all busy.
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At the end of the day,
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we're separated by something like
two hours of heavy traffic.
two hours of heavy traffic.
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So frankly, we haven't seen
each other in a few months.
each other in a few months.
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Now, I work in downtown San Jose,
which is near the airport.
which is near the airport.
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And there are actually days
when I can leave work,
when I can leave work,
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get on a plane and fly to Los Angeles
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faster than I can drive to San Francisco.
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Cities are only getting more populated,
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the roads are full, and it's really
difficult to expand them.
difficult to expand them.
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And so in a lot of places,
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there really aren't a lot
of good solutions
of good solutions
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for getting around traffic.
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But what if you could fly over it?
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The sky is underutilized,
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and I would argue it will never be
as congested as the roads are.
as congested as the roads are.
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First of all, you've got
a whole other dimension,
a whole other dimension,
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but also just safety considerations
and air-traffic management
and air-traffic management
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will not allow bumper-to-bumper
traffic in the sky.
traffic in the sky.
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Which means, in many cases,
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flying can be a long-term,
compelling alternative
compelling alternative
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to traveling on the ground.
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So imagine this:
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you call an Uber, it takes you
to a nearby landing spot --
to a nearby landing spot --
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we call these vertiports --
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there's an airplane waiting for you there,
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flies you over all
of the traffic in the middle,
of the traffic in the middle,
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and on the other side, another Uber
takes you to your friend's house.
takes you to your friend's house.
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And I said Uber,
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but I really think we need
to congratulate the Lyft branding team
to congratulate the Lyft branding team
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for their forward thinking
in choosing their brand.
in choosing their brand.
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(Laughter)
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So in that example,
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OK, there are a few extra steps, I admit.
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But it's 30 minutes versus two hours,
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it costs around 60 dollars,
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and you get to fly.
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We're not there yet,
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but we are a lot closer
than you might think.
than you might think.
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So one of the first things we need
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is we need an aircraft that can
take off and land in small spaces
take off and land in small spaces
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and quickly take you where you want to go.
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And helicopters can do that today,
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but traditionally, helicopters have been
just a little bit too expensive,
just a little bit too expensive,
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just a little too hard to pilot
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and just a little too noisy to be used
for daily transportation in cities.
for daily transportation in cities.
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Well, electric flight and autonomy
are changing that.
are changing that.
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Electric flight, in particular,
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unlocks new possibilities
for vehicle configurations
for vehicle configurations
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that we just could not
explore in the past.
explore in the past.
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If you use electric motors,
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you can have many of them
around the aircraft,
around the aircraft,
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and it doesn't add a lot of extra weight.
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And that gives you redundancy and safety.
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And also, they are cleaner,
cheaper and quieter
cheaper and quieter
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than internal combustion engines.
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Autonomy allows the transportation
network to scale,
network to scale,
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and I actually think
it makes the aircraft safer.
it makes the aircraft safer.
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Commercial flights are already automated
for most of their duration,
for most of their duration,
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and I believe there will come a day
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when we won't even trust an airplane
that required a human to fly.
that required a human to fly.
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So, one of our teams at A3
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wanted to see just how close
this future really was.
this future really was.
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So they built and flew a prototype
of one such vehicle.
of one such vehicle.
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And they made a point of only using
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mature, commercially available
technologies today.
technologies today.
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We call it Vahana.
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It's fully electric.
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It takes off and lands vertically,
but flies forward like a regular airplane.
but flies forward like a regular airplane.
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It's fully self-piloted.
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You push a button, it takes off,
flies and lands, all by itself.
flies and lands, all by itself.
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The prototype that you see here
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is designed to carry
a single passenger and luggage.
a single passenger and luggage.
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And it can go about
20 miles in 15 minutes.
20 miles in 15 minutes.
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And our estimate for a trip like that
is it would cost around 40 dollars,
is it would cost around 40 dollars,
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which you can really
build a business around.
build a business around.
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It has multiple redundant
motors and batteries,
motors and batteries,
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you can lose one, it will continue
flying and land normally.
flying and land normally.
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It's pretty quiet.
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When it's flying overhead, it will be
quieter than a Prius on the highway.
quieter than a Prius on the highway.
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It's intelligent and has cameras,
lidar and radar,
lidar and radar,
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so it can detect and avoid
unexpected obstacles.
unexpected obstacles.
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And the team really focused
on making it efficient,
on making it efficient,
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so the batteries are small, light,
and they last longer.
and they last longer.
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For reference, the Vahana battery
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is less than half the size
of a Tesla Model S battery.
of a Tesla Model S battery.
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It's about 40 kilowatt-hours.
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And you can hot swap the batteries
in just a few minutes.
in just a few minutes.
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And I do think that in a few years,
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people will be comfortable
getting by themselves
getting by themselves
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in a self-piloted, electric,
VTOL air taxi.
VTOL air taxi.
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But the team is busy
working on the next version,
working on the next version,
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which is going to carry
at least two passengers
at least two passengers
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and fly quite a bit farther.
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But more importantly, there are
over 20 companies around the world
over 20 companies around the world
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working on vehicles
just like this one right now.
just like this one right now.
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My best guess is in the next five years,
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you'll start seeing
vertiports in some cities,
vertiports in some cities,
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and little airplane icons
on your ride-sharing apps.
on your ride-sharing apps.
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And it might begin with a dozen,
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but eventually, we could have
hundreds of these,
hundreds of these,
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flying around our cities.
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And it will fundamentally transform
our relationship with local travel.
our relationship with local travel.
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In the past century,
flight connected our planet,
flight connected our planet,
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in the next, it will reconnect
our local communities,
our local communities,
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and I hope it will
reconnect us to each other.
reconnect us to each other.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
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Chris Anderson: OK, so when
these things first roll out --
these things first roll out --
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right now, it's a single
person aircraft, right?
person aircraft, right?
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Rodin Lyasoff: Ours is, yes.
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CA: Yours is.
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I mean, someone comes out of their car,
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the door opens, they get in,
there's no one else in there.
there's no one else in there.
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This thing takes off.
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Could we do a poll here?
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Because these are
early adopters in this room.
early adopters in this room.
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I want to know who here is excited
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about the idea of being picked up solo
in an auto-flying --
in an auto-flying --
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Well, there you go!
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RL: It's pretty good.
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CA: That is pretty awesome,
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half of TED is completely
stark staring bonkers.
stark staring bonkers.
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(Laughter)
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RL: So, one of the things
we're really focusing on
we're really focusing on
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is, really, the cost.
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So you can really wrap
a business around that.
a business around that.
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And so, that's why some of the features
are really driven by price.
are really driven by price.
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And the 40-dollar price tag
is really a target that we're aiming for.
is really a target that we're aiming for.
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Which should make it accessible
to a larger crowd than this one.
to a larger crowd than this one.
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CA: The biggest blockage
in terms of when this rolls out
in terms of when this rolls out
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is probably not the technology
at this point -- it's regulation, right?
at this point -- it's regulation, right?
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RL: That's probably true, yes,
I would agree with that.
I would agree with that.
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The technology need to mature
in terms of safety,
in terms of safety,
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to get to the safety levels
that we expect from aircraft.
that we expect from aircraft.
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But I don't think there are
any blockers there,
any blockers there,
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just work needs to get done.
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CA: So, first, this is ride sharing.
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Are we that far away from a time
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when lots of people have
one of these in their garage
one of these in their garage
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and just kind of, go direct
to their friend's house?
to their friend's house?
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RL: My personal view is that ride sharing
actually allows you to operate
actually allows you to operate
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that entire business
much more efficiently.
much more efficiently.
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You know, there are millennials
that say they never want to own a car.
that say they never want to own a car.
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I think they'll probably feel
even stronger about aircraft.
even stronger about aircraft.
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So --
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(Laughter)
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I really think that the network
scales and operates a lot better
scales and operates a lot better
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as a ride-sharing platform,
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also because the integration
with air-traffic management
with air-traffic management
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works a lot better
if it's handled centrally.
if it's handled centrally.
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CA: Cool. Thank you for that.
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RL: Thank you.
CA: That was amazing.
CA: That was amazing.
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Rodin Lyasoff - Flight junkieRodin Lyasoff makes improbable objects fly.
Why you should listen
Rodin Lyasoff is the CEO of A³, the advanced projects outpost of Airbus in Silicon Valley. A³ executes a small portfolio of high-risk, time-constrained projects. The mission of A³ is to bring together bright individuals to bravely explore ideas and technologies that will disrupt aerospace. Projects are built on rigorous analysis, fertile partnerships and commitment to unreasonable goals. Before his time at A³, Rodin created and led Project Vahana.
Rodin's career is rooted in building and leading teams and projects that execute effectively in dynamic and uncertain environments. At Rockwell Collins, he designed flight software for a number of platforms including the AAI Shadow, Alenia Sky-X and the NASA Mars Flyer. He was also an early member of Zee.Aero's engineering team and is passionate about making personal flight accessible to all.
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