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Rob Legato: The art of creating awe
Robert Legato: Sztuka wywoływania grozy
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Bywa, że filmowe obrazy, które tworzy Bob Legato, są tak doskonałe, iż zdają się być bardziej wiarygodne niż rzeczywistość. W ciepłej i zabawnej prezentacji opowiada o pracy nad efektami specjalnymi w filmach "Titanic", "Apollo 13" i "Hugo".
Rob Legato - Visual Effects Guru
Rob Legato creates surprising and creative visual illusions for movies. Full bio
Rob Legato creates surprising and creative visual illusions for movies. Full bio
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00:16
I worked on a film called "Apollo 13,"
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Pracowałem nad filmem "Apollo 13",
00:18
and when I worked on this film, I discovered something
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kiedy odkryłem,
00:20
about how our brains work, and how our brains work
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jak działają nasze mózgi.
00:22
is that, when we're sort of infused with
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Gdy przepełnia nas entuzjazm,
00:25
either enthusiasm or awe or fondness or whatever,
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strach czy czułość,
00:29
it changes and alters our perception of things.
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inaczej widzimy świat.
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It changes what we see. It changes what we remember.
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Inaczej też zapamiętujemy.
00:33
And as an experiment, because I dauntingly create
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Miałem za zadanie
00:37
a task for myself of recreating a Saturn V launch
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odtworzyć start
00:41
for this particular movie, because I put it out there,
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sondy Saturn V w tym filmie.
00:44
I felt a little nervous about it, so I need to do an experiment
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W ramach eksperymentu
00:46
and bring a group of people like this in a projection room
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zaprosiłem grupę ludzi
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and play this stock footage, and when I played this
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i puściłem im to nagranie.
00:53
stock footage, I simply wanted to find out
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Chciałem zbadać,
00:55
what people remembered, what was memorable about it?
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co utkwi im w pamięci,
00:59
What should I actually try to replicate?
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co muszę odtworzyć,
01:01
What should I try to emulate to some degree?
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co naśladować?
01:05
So this is the footage that I was showing everybody.
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Pokazałem to nagranie.
01:08
And what I discovered is, because of the nature
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Odkryłem, że samo nagranie
01:10
of the footage and the fact that we're doing this film,
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oraz fakt pracy nad filmem
01:13
there was an emotion that was built into it
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budziło emocje,
01:15
and our collective memories of what this launch meant to us
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wspomnienia startu,
01:18
and all these various things.
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tego, co dla nas znaczył.
01:19
When I showed it, and I asked, immediately after
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Gdy pytałem,
01:21
the screening was over, what they thought of it,
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co widzowie zapamiętali,
01:24
what was your memorable shots, they changed them.
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zmieniali przebieg filmu.
01:27
They were -- had camera moves on them.
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Dodawali ruchy kamery
01:29
They had all kinds of things. Shots were combined,
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i inne rzeczy.
01:32
and I was just really curious, I mean, what the hell
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Intrygowało mnie to.
01:35
were you looking at just a few minutes ago
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Oglądali coś przed chwilą
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and how come, how'd you come up with this sort of description?
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i skąd takie opisy?
01:40
And what I discovered is, what I should do is not actually
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Zrozumiałem, że powinienem odtworzyć to,
01:44
replicate what they saw, is replicate what they remembered.
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co pamiętali, a nie to, co widzieli.
01:47
So this is our footage of the launch, based on, basically,
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To nagranie startu oparte na
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taking notes, asking people what they thought, and then
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rozmowach z widzami
01:54
the combination of all the different shots and all
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i zestawieniu różnych ujęć.
01:57
the different things put together created their sort of
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Wszystko razem przedstawia
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collective consciousness of what they remembered
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zbiorową pamięć o tym zdarzeniu,
02:01
it looked like, but not what it really looked like.
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a nie prawdę obiektywną.
02:02
So this is what we created for "Apollo 13."
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To powstało dla filmu "Apollo 13".
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(Launch noises)
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(Odgłosy startu)
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So literally what you're seeing now is the confluence
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Oglądacie połączenie wspomnień
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of a bunch of different people, a bunch of different memories,
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różnych osób, w tym moich,
02:14
including my own, of taking a little bit of liberty
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i kreatywnego spojrzenia
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with the subject matter.
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na całe wydarzenie.
02:19
I basically shot everything with short lenses,
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Kręciłem obiektywem szerokokątnym,
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which means that you're very close to the action,
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więc byłem blisko.
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but framed it very similarly to the long lens shots
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Wykadrowaliśmy to tak, jak w teleobiektywie,
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which gives you a sense of distance, so I was basically
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co daje poczucie odległości.
02:29
was setting up something that would remind you
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Zmontowaliśmy coś,
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of something you haven't really quite seen before. (Music)
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czego nie widzieliście.
(Muzyka)
(Muzyka)
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And then I'm going to show you exactly what it is
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Pokażę teraz,
02:37
that you were reacting to when you were reacting to it.
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na co reagowaliście.
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(Music)
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(Muzyka)
02:53
Tom Hanks: Hello, Houston, this is Odyssey.
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Tom Hanks: Halo, Houston, tu Odyssey.
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It's good to see you again. (Cheers) (Music)
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Dobrze znów was widzieć. (Brawa) (Muzyka)
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Rob Legato: I pretend they're clapping for me.
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Udaję, że to mnie oklaskują.
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(Laughter)
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(Śmiech)
03:03
So now I'm in a parking lot. Basically it's a tin can,
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Tu jestem na parkingu
03:06
and I'm basically recreating the launch with
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i odtwarzam start za pomocą gaśnic,
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fire extinguishers, fire, I have wax that I threw
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ognia i wosku.
03:13
in front of the lens to look like ice, and so basically
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Jeśli uwierzyliście
03:16
if you believed any of the stuff that I just showed you,
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w cokolwiek z tego filmu,
03:19
what you were reacting to, what you're emoting to,
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to wasze uczucia wywołał
03:22
is something that's a total falsehood, and I found that
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kompletny fałsz.
03:24
really kind of fascinating.
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To niezwykłe.
03:26
And in this particular case, this is the climax of the movie,
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Tu kręcimy punkt kulminacyjny filmu.
03:29
and, you know, the weight of achieving it was simply
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Wystarczyło wyrzucić model
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take a model, throw it out of a helicopter, and shoot it.
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z helikoptera i nagrać to.
03:35
And that's simply what I did.
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Tak zrobiłem.
03:37
That's me shooting, and I'm a fairly mediocre operator,
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Jestem przeciętnym operatorem,
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so I got that nice sense of verisimilitude, of a kind of,
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stąd taki autentyzm.
03:43
you know, following the rocket all the way down,
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Filmuję rakietę i staram się
03:46
and giving that little sort of edge, I was desperately
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utrzymać ją w obiektywie.
03:48
trying to keep it in frame. So then I come up to the next thing.
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I kolejna rzecz.
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We had a NASA consultant who was actually an astronaut,
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Kontaktowaliśmy się z byłym astronautą,
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who was actually on some of the missions, of Apollo 15,
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który był na misjach Apollo 15.
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and he was there to basically double check my science.
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Sprawdzał moją wiedzę naukową.
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And, I guess somebody thought they needed to do that.
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Ktoś uznał, że to konieczne.
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(Laughter)
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(Śmiech)
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I don't know why, but they thought they did.
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Nie wiem czemu.
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So we were, he's a hero, he's an astronaut, and
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To bohater, astronauta,
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we're all sort of excited, and, you know, I gave myself
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więc byliśmy podekscytowani.
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the liberty of saying, you know, some of the shots I did
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Nasze ujęcia
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didn't really suck that bad.
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nie były całkiem do kitu.
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And so maybe, you know, we were feeling kind of a little
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Były nawet niezłe.
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good about it, so I brought him in here, and he needed
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Miał sprawdzić,
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to really check and see what we were doing,
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jak sobie radzimy
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and basically give us our A plus report card,
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i dać nam szóstkę z plusem.
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and so I showed him some shots we were working on,
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Pokazałem mu kilka ujęć
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and waiting for the reaction that you hope for,
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oczekując dobrej reakcji.
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which is what I got. (Music) (Launch noises)
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I dostałem ją. (Muzyka)
(Odgłosy startu)
(Odgłosy startu)
04:40
So I showed him these two shots,
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Pokazałem mu te dwa ujęcia,
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and then he basically told me what he thought.
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żeby je ocenił.
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("That's wrong") (Laughter)
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("Źle") (Śmiech)
04:48
Okay. (Laughter)
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(Śmiech)
04:51
It's what you dream about.
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O tym marzyłem.
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(Laughter)
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(Śmiech)
04:56
So what I got from him is, he turned to me and said,
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Oto co usłyszałem:
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"You would never, ever design a rocket like that.
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"Nie buduje się takich rakiet.
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You would never have a rocket go up
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Rakieta nigdy nie startuje,
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while the gantry arms are going out. Can you imagine
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jeśli wokół są wsporniki.
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the tragedy that could possibly happen with that?
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Wiesz, co mogłoby się stać?
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You would never, ever design a rocket like that."
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Nikt by tego tak nie zaprojektował".
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And he was looking at me. It's like, Yeah, I don't know
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Starałem się odtworzyć
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if you noticed, but I'm the guy out in the parking lot
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jedną z ważniejszych chwil
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recreating one of America's finest moments with
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w historii Ameryki
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fire extinguishers.
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za pomocą gaśnic na parkingu.
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(Laughter)
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(Śmiech)
05:21
And I'm not going to argue with you. You're an astronaut,
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Nie będę się kłócić. On jest bohaterem,
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a hero, and I'm from New Jersey, so --
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a ja jestem z prowincji.
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(Laughter)
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(Śmiech)
05:28
I'm just going to show you some footage.
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Pokażę wam parę nagrań
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I'm just going to show you some footage, and tell me what you think.
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do oceny. W końcu dostałem
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And then I did kind of get the reaction I was hoping for.
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reakcję, na jaką liczyłem.
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So I showed him this, and this is actual footage
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To autentyczne nagranie.
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that he was on. This is Apollo 15. This was his mission.
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Misja Apollo 15, w której brał udział.
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So I showed him this, and the reaction I got was interesting.
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Zareagował dość ciekawie.
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("That's wrong too.") (Laughter)
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("To też źle".) (Śmiech)
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So, and what happened was, I mean, what I sort of intuned
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Zrozumiałem wtedy,
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in that is that he remembered it differently.
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że on to inaczej pamięta.
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He remembered that was a perfectly safe sort of gantry
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Zapamiętał zabezpieczone wsporniki
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system, perfectly safe rocket launch, because he's sitting
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i bezpieczny start,
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in a rocket that has, like, a hundred thousand pounds
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bo tę ogromną rakietę
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of thrust, built by the lowest bidder.
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zbudowano najtańszym kosztem.
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He was hoping it was going to work out okay.
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Liczył, że się uda.
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Śmiech) (Brawa)
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So he twisted his memory around.
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Zniekształcił sobie wspomnienia.
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Now, Ron Howard ran into Buzz Aldrin, who was not
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Ron Howard spotkał Buzza Aldrina,
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on the movie, so he had no idea that we were faking
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który nie wiedział,
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any of this footage, and he just responded
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że imitujemy te nagrania
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as he would respond, and I'll run this.
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i tak zareagował.
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Ron Howard: Buzz Aldrin came up to me
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Ron Howard: Buzz Aldrin spytał mnie:
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and said, "Hey, that launch footage, I saw some shots
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"W tym filmie były ujęcia,
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I'd never seen before. Did you guys, what vault did you find
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których wcześniej nie widziałem.
06:33
that stuff in?" And I said, "Well, no vault, Buzz,
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Skąd to wzięliście?"
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we generated all that from scratch."
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Ja na to: "Sami nagraliśmy".
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And he said, "Huh, that's pretty good. Can we use it?"
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A on: "Niezłe. Możemy to wykorzystać?"
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(Explosion) ("Sure") (Laughter)
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(Wybuch) ("Pewnie")
(Śmiech)
(Śmiech)
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RL: I think he's a great American.
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To wielki Amerykanin.
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(Laughter)
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(Śmiech)
06:52
So, "Titanic" was, if you don't know the story,
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"Titanic", jeśli nie znacie fabuły,
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doesn't end well.
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nie kończy się dobrze.
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(Laughter)
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(Śmiech)
07:00
Jim Cameron actually photographed the real Titanic.
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Jim Cameron zrobił zdjęcia
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So he basically set up, or basically shattered
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prawdziwego Titanica,
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the suspension of disbelief, because what he photographed
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żeby pozbyć się wątpliwości.
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was the real thing, a Mir sub going down, or actually
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Dwa batyskafy zeszły w głębiny
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two Mir subs going down to the real wreck,
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i sfilmowały wrak.
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and he created this very haunting footage.
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Przejmujący materiał.
07:16
It's really beautiful, and it conjures up all these
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Jest piękny, budzi emocje,
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various different emotions, but he couldn't photograph
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ale nie sfilmował wszystkiego.
07:21
everything, and to tell the story,
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Żeby o tym opowiedzieć,
07:23
I had to fill in the gaps, which is now rather daunting,
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musiałem wypełnić luki,
07:25
because now I have to recreate back to back
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odtworzyć po kolei
07:28
what really happened and I had, I'm the only one
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wszystkie zdarzenia.
07:31
who could really blow it at that point.
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Mogłem nie dać rady.
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So this is the footage he photographed,
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Materiał, który nagrał
07:37
and it was pretty moving and pretty awe-inspiring.
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był niesamowity i wzruszający.
07:42
So I'm going to just let it run, so you kind of absorb
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Niech gra w tle,
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this sort of thing, and I'll describe my sort of reactions
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żebyście się wczuli,
07:48
when I was looking at it for the very first time.
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a ja opiszę swoje wrażenia.
07:50
I got the feeling that my brain wanted to basically
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Chciałem zobaczyć,
07:55
see it come back to life.
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jak statek wraca do życia,
07:56
I automatically wanted to see this ship,
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jest w całej okazałości,
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this magnificent ship, basically in all its glory,
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ale też widzieć
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and conversely, I wanted to see it not in all its glory,
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go w stanie obecnym,
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basically go back to what it looks like.
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jako wrak.
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So I conjured up an effect that I'm later going to show you
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Później pokażę ten efekt.
08:11
what I tried to do, which is kind of the heart of the movie,
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Jest on dla mnie esencją filmu,
08:13
for me, and so that's why I wanted to do the movie,
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i powodem, dla którego
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that's why I wanted to create the sort of things I created.
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chciałem nad nim pracować.
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And I'll show you, you know, another thing that I found
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Ciekawiło mnie też,
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interesting is what we really were emoting to
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co tak naprawdę
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when you take a look at it.
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budziło emocje widza.
08:26
So here's the behind the scenes, a couple of little shots here.
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To zdjęcia z planu.
08:29
So, when you saw my footage,
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Tak naprawdę widzicie
08:31
you were seeing this: basically, a bunch of guys
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kilka osób przechylających łódkę,
08:33
flipping a ship upside down, and the little Mir subs
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a batyskafy są wielkości
08:36
are actually about the size of small footballs,
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a batyskafy są wielkości
08:39
and shot in smoke.
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małej piłki.
08:41
Jim went three miles went down, and I went about
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Jim zszedł 3 mile wgłąb.
08:43
three miles away from the studio
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A ja odszedłem 3 mile od studia
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and photographed this in a garage.
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i sfilmowałem to w garażu.
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And so, but what you're emoting to, or what you're looking
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Mój materiał wywołuje
08:50
at, had the same feeling, the same haunting quality,
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takie same emocje,
08:53
that Jim's footage had, so I found it so fascinating
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jak nagranie Jima.
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that our brains sort of, once you believe something's real,
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To niesamowite, że gdy w coś uwierzymy,
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you transfer everything that you feel about it,
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przenosimy na to odczucia,
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this quality you have, and it's totally artificial.
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mimo, że obraz jest sztuczny.
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It's totally make-believe, yet it's not to you,
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To gra pozorów, ale nie dla widza.
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and I found that that was a very interesting thing
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Wykorzystałem to odkrycie
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to explore and use, and it caused me to create the next
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przy kolejnym efekcie,
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effect that I'll show you, which is
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który pokażę.
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this sort of magic transition, and all I was really attempting
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To magiczna przemiana.
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to do is basically have the audience cue the effect,
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Chciałem, żeby było płynne,
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so it became a seamless experience for them,
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żeby widz myślał,
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that I wasn't showing you my sort of interpretation,
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że to nie moja wersja,
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I was showing you what you wanted to see.
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ale jego własne wyobrażenie.
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And the very next shot, right after this --
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Kolejne ujęcie.
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So you can see what I was doing.
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Dwa batyskafy w jednym ujęciu
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So basically, if there's two subs in the same shot,
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Dwa batyskafy w jednym ujęciu
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I shot it, because where's the camera coming from?
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W nich ukryte są kamery.
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And when Jim shot it, it was only one sub,
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Jim kręcił z jednego.
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because he was photographing from the other,
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Nie wiem, czyj to fragment.
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and I don't remember if I did this or Jim did this.
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Niech będzie, że Jima,
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I'll give it to Jim, because he could use the pat on the back.
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poprawi mu humor.
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(Laughter)
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(Śmiech)
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Okay. So now the Titanic transition.
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A teraz przemiana statku,
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So this is what I was referring to where I wanted to basically
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przejście z jednego stanu w drugi,
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magically transplant from one state of the Titanic
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jak wcześniej mówiłem.
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to the other. So I'll just play the shot once. (Music)
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Puszczę wam to. (Muzyka)
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(Music)
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(Muzyka)
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And what I was hoping for is that it just melts in front of you.
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Chciałem, żeby to się rozpłynęło.
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Gloria Stuart: That was the last time Titanic ever saw daylight.
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Gloria Stuart: Wtedy Titanic po raz ostatni
widział światło dzienne.
widział światło dzienne.
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RL: So, what I did is basically I had another
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RL: Potem w innym studiu
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screening room experience where I was basically tracking
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śledziłem ruchy kamery,
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where I was looking, or where we were looking,
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to, na co patrzy widz,
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and of course you're looking at the two people on the bow
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czyli postaci na dziobie.
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of the ship, and then at some point,
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Nagle zaciera się granica
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I'm changing the periphery of the shot,
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i statek staje się
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I'm changing, it's becoming the rusted wreck,
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zardzewiałym wrakiem.
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and then I would run it every day, and then I would find
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Oglądałem to codziennie,
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exactly the moment that I stopped looking at them
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aż znalazłem moment
10:53
and start noticing the rest of it, and the moment
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kiedy zaczyna się przemiana
10:55
my eye shifted, we just marked it to the frame.
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i zaznaczyłem tę klatkę.
10:57
The moment my eye shifted, I immediately started
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Gdy się to ogląda,
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to change them, so now somehow you missed
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trudno wychwycić
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where it started and where it stopped.
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tę chwilę.
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And so I'll just show it one more time.
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Pokażę jeszcze raz.
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(Music) And it's literally done by using what our brains
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(Muzyka) Wykorzystałem naturę
11:10
naturally do for us, which is, as soon as you shift
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ludzkiego mózgu. Gdy przestajemy uważać,
11:14
your attention, something changes, and then I left
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coś zaczyna się zmieniać.
11:15
the little scarf going, because it really wanted to be
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Zostawiłem szal,
11:18
a ghostly shot, really wanted to feel like they were still
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żeby wyglądali jak duchy,
11:21
on the wreck, essentially. That's where they were buried forever.
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pochowani na zawsze na wraku.
11:25
Or something like that. I just made that up.
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Nieważne. Zmyśliłem to.
11:27
(Laughter)
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(Śmiech)
11:29
It was, incidentally, the last time I ever saw daylight.
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Sam dawno nie widziałem światła dziennego.
11:31
It was a long film to work on. (Laughter)
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Długo pracowaliśmy.
(Śmiech)
(Śmiech)
11:35
Now, "Hugo" was another interesting movie, because
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Kolejny film, "Hugo",
11:37
the movie itself is about film illusions.
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jest o iluzjach filmowych,
11:39
It's about how our brain is tricked into seeing a persistence
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które zwodzą
11:42
of vision that creates a motion picture,
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nasz mózg.
11:45
and one of the things I had to do is, we —
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Sasha Baron Cohen,
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Sasha Baron Cohen is a very clever, very smart guy,
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bardzo inteligentny aktor,
11:52
comedian, wanted to basically do an homage to the kind of
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chciał grać gagi
11:54
the Buster Keaton sort of slapstick things, and he wanted
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w stylu Bustera Keatona
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his leg brace to get caught on a moving train.
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i zaklinować protezę w pociągu.
11:59
Very dangerous, very impossible to do, and particularly
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To niebezpieczne i niewykonalne,
12:02
on our stage, because there literally is no way to actually
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bo nasz plan był za mały,
12:05
move this train, because it fits so snugly into our set.
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żeby ruszyć pociąg.
12:10
So let me show you the scene, and then I basically
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Pokażę to ujęcie.
12:12
used the trick that was identified by Sergei Eisenstein,
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Użyłem sztuczki Siergieja Eisensteina.
12:16
which is, if you have a camera that's moving with a moving
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Gdy kamera porusza się razem z obiektem,
12:19
object, what is not moving appears to be moving,
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wydaje się, że obiekt stoi,
12:22
and what is moving appears to be stopped,
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a porusza się otoczenie.
12:24
so what you're actually seeing now is the train is not
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Tu pociąg stoi w miejscu,
12:27
moving at all, and what is actually moving is the floor.
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a porusza się podłoga.
12:32
So this is the shot. That's a little video of
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To zdjęcia z planu.
12:35
what you're looking at there, which is our little test,
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Ten mały ekran to test.
12:39
so that's actually what you're seeing, and I thought it was
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Ten mały ekran to test.
12:41
sort of an interesting thing, because it was, part
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To tak naprawdę widzieliście.
12:43
of the homage of the movie itself is coming up with this
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Ta sztuczka wpisuje się
12:47
sort of genius trick which I can't take credit for.
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w temat filmu.
12:49
I'd love to but I can't, because it was invented
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Niestety nie jest moją zasługą,
12:52
like in 1910 or something like that, is I told Marty,
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bo wymyślono ją w 1910 roku.
12:57
and it's kind of one of those mind things that it's
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Powiedziałem Marty'emu:
12:58
really hard to really get until you actually see it work,
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„Nie zrozumiesz, póki nie zobaczysz”.
13:01
and I said, you know, what I was going to do, and he said,
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Odpowiedział:
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"So, let me see if I can get this straight. The thing with the wheels?
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"Niech spojrzę.
13:06
That doesn't move."
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To z kołami się nie rusza?"
13:08
(Laughter) (Applause)
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(Śmiech) (Brawa)
13:11
"And the thing without the wheels, that moves."
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"A to bez kół się rusza?"
13:15
Precisely. (Laughter)
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Dokładnie. (Śmiech)
13:18
Brings me to the next, and final --
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Dokładnie. (Śmiech)
13:20
Marty's not going to see this, is he? (Laughter)
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Przecież Marty tego nie zobaczy. (Śmiech)
13:24
This isn't viewed outside of -- (Laughter)
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To nie wyjdzie poza tą salę?
13:28
The next illustration is something that, there's like
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Kolejny materiał to teoria jednego ujęcia;
13:33
all one shot theory. It's a very elegant way of telling a story,
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eleganckie opowiadanie historii,
13:36
especially if you're following somebody on a journey,
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zwłaszcza jeśli śledzisz podróż,
13:38
and that journey basically tells something about
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która mówi coś
13:40
their personality in a very concise way,
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o osobowości bohatera.
13:42
and what we wanted to do based on the shot in "Goodfellas,"
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Użyliśmy jednego z najlepszych
13:45
which is one of the great shots ever,
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ujęć w historii kina,
13:47
a Martin Scorsese film, of basically following Henry Hill
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z "Chłopców z ferajny" Martina Scorsese.
13:50
through what it feels like to be a gangster walk
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To spacer Henry'ego Hilla
13:52
going through the Copacabana and being treated in a special way.
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przez Copacabanę.
13:55
He was the master of his universe, and we wanted Hugo
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Był panem swojego świata,
13:58
to feel the same way, so we created this shot.
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podobnie jak Hugo.
14:01
(Music)
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(Muzyka)
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That's Hugo. (Music)
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To Hugo. (Muzyka)
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And we felt that if we could basically move the camera
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Kamera podąża za nim
14:12
with him, we would feel what it feels like to be this boy
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i pozwala widzowi
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who is basically the master of his universe,
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poczuć sie jak chłopiec,
14:18
and his universe is, you know, behind the scenes
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jak pan świata
14:20
in the bowels of this particular train station
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ukrytego w głębi stacji.
14:23
that only he can actually navigate through
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Tylko tam Hugo się odnajduje.
14:25
and do it this way, and we had to make it feel that
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Miało to wyglądać autentycznie
14:27
this is his normal, everyday sort of life,
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i scena z jednym ujęciem
14:30
so the idea of doing it as one shot was very important,
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była bardzo ważna.
14:32
and of course, in shooting in 3D, which is basically
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W 3D kamera wisi na kiju,
14:35
it's a huge camera that's hanging off of a giant stick,
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jest niestatyczna,
14:39
so to recreate a steadycam shot was the task,
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więc musieliśmy się namęczyć,
14:42
and make it feel kind of like what the reaction you got
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żeby wyszło
14:46
when you saw the "Goodfellas" shot.
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jak w "Chłopcach z ferajny".
14:47
So what you're now going to see is how we actually did it.
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Pokażę, jak to zrobiliśmy.
14:51
It's actually five separate sets shot at five different times
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Było pięć planów
14:54
with two different boys.
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i dwóch aktorów.
14:55
The one on the left is where the shot ends,
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Po lewej ujęcie się kończy,
14:58
and the shot on the right is where it takes over,
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a po prawej zaczyna.
15:03
and now we switch boys, so it went from Asa Butterfield,
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Tu Asa Butterfielda, gwiazdę filmu,
15:07
who's the star of the show, to his stand-in. (Music)
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zmienia dubler. (Muzyka)
15:10
I wouldn't say his stunt double. There's a crazy rig
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Zbudowaliśmy
15:12
that we built for this. (Music)
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fajną zjeżdżalnię. (Muzyka)
15:15
And so this is, and now this is set number three
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To plan nr 3
15:18
we're into, and then we're going to go into, basically
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i ostatnie ujęcie
15:23
the very last moment of the shot is actually
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nagrane kamerą statyczną.
15:25
the steadycam shot. Everything else was shot on cranes
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Całą reszte kręciliśmy
15:28
and various things like that, and it literally was done
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za pomocą żurawi.
15:30
over five different sets, two different boys, different times,
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5 planów, 2 chłopców, w różnym czasie.
15:33
and it all had to feel like it was all one shot, and what was
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A wydaje się, że to jedno ujęcie.
15:36
sort of great for me was it was probably
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Zebrałem za nie najlepsze recenzje
15:40
the best-reviewed shot I've ever worked on,
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w mojej karierze.
15:43
and, you know, I was kind of proud of it when I was done,
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Byłem z niego dumny.
15:46
which is, you should never really be proud of stuff, I guess.
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Może nie powinienem.
15:50
So I was kind of proud of it, and I went to a friend of mine,
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Pochwaliłem się koledze:
15:53
and said, "You know, this is, you know, kind of
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"To najlepiej oceniane ujęcie,
15:55
the best-reviewed shot I've ever worked on.
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nad jakim pracowałem.
15:57
What do you think was the reason?"
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Jak myślisz, dlaczego?"
16:00
And he said, "Because no one knows
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A on: "Bo nikt nie wie,
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you had anything to do with it."
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że masz z nim coś wspólnego".
16:03
(Laughter)
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(Śmiech)
16:06
So, all I can say is, thank you,
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Na koniec prezentacji
16:10
and that's my presentation for you. (Applause)
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mogę tylko powiedzieć: dziękuję. (Brawa)
16:15
(Applause)
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(Brawa)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Rob Legato - Visual Effects GuruRob Legato creates surprising and creative visual illusions for movies.
Why you should listen
Did we really see what we thought we saw? Rob Legato creates visual illusions for movies -- thinking deeply both about vfx's expanding tech power and the truly new creative processes that can result. Legato won his first Oscar in 1998 for his work on James Cameron's Titanic, after several years in television supervising effects on two Star Trek series. His 2012 Oscar win for Hugo, the 3D film about a boy who lives alone in a Paris train station, underscores his fascinating partnership with Martin Scorsese -- doing digital effects on documentaries and new classics like The Departed.
He's worked with the big effects houses like Sony Imageworks and Digital Domain, but is now fascinated with the nimble new workflows made possible with digital tools. He designed the "virtual cinematography pipeline" that let James Cameron shoot Avatar like a feature film, not a software project. We know that fx can create new worlds -- but how can these tools unlock new creativity?
Rob Legato | Speaker | TED.com