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Megan Washington: Why I live in mortal dread of public speaking
Megan Washington: Prečo žijem v smrteľnom strachu z rozprávania na verejnosti
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Megan Washington je jednou z popredných austrálskych speváčok/skladateliek. A od detstva koktá. Počas tejto odvážnej a osobnej prednášky odhalí, ako sa vyrovnáva s touto rečovou vadou – od vyhýbania sa kombinácii písmen „st“ až po klamanie vlastného mozgu výmenou slov na poslednú chvíľu, a áno, aj spievaním o veciach, ktoré chce povedať.
Megan Washington - Musician
Megan Washington has won two ARIA Awards, the Australian equivalent of the Grammys. A popular singer/songwriter, she has recently come clean with a secret—that she has a speech impediment. Full bio
Megan Washington has won two ARIA Awards, the Australian equivalent of the Grammys. A popular singer/songwriter, she has recently come clean with a secret—that she has a speech impediment. Full bio
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I didn't know when I agreed to do this
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Keď som prijímala túto ponuku,
nevedela som,
nevedela som,
00:16
whether I was expected to talk or to sing.
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či sa odo mňa očakáva
rozprávanie alebo spievanie.
rozprávanie alebo spievanie.
00:22
But when I was told that the topic was language,
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Ale keď som sa dozvedela,
že témou je jazyk,
že témou je jazyk,
00:27
I felt that I had to speak about something for a moment.
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mala som pocit, že musím niečo aj povedať.
00:32
I have a problem.
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Mám problém.
00:36
It's not the worst thing in the world.
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Nie je to najhoršia vec na svete.
00:38
I'm fine.
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Som v pohode.
00:39
I'm not on fire.
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Nehorím.
00:41
I know that other people in the world
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Viem, že iní ľudia na svete
00:43
have far worse things to deal with,
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majú omnoho horšie problémy,
00:47
but for me, language and music are
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ale pre mňa sú jazyk a hudba
00:53
inextricably linked through this one thing.
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neoddeliteľne prepojené cez jednu vec.
00:57
And the thing is that I have a stutter.
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A tou vecou je, že koktám.
01:05
It might seem curious given that I spend
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Môže sa to zdať zvláštne vzhľadom na to,
01:08
a lot of my life on the stage.
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že veľa času trávim na javisku.
01:11
One would assume that I'm comfortable
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Mohli by ste sa domnievať,
01:14
in the public sphere and comfortable here,
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že pri verejných vystúpeniach,
a aj teraz tu pred vami,
a aj teraz tu pred vami,
01:17
speaking to you guys.
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sa cítim pohodlne.
01:19
But the truth is that I've spent
my life up until this point
my life up until this point
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Ale pravda je taká, že do tohto momentu,
01:24
and including this point, living in mortal dread
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a vrátane tohto momentu,
som žila v smrteľnom strachu
som žila v smrteľnom strachu
01:28
of public speaking.
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z rozprávania na verejnosti.
01:32
Public singing, whole different thing. (Laughter)
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Verejné spievanie
je celkom iná vec. (smiech)
je celkom iná vec. (smiech)
01:36
But we'll get to that in a moment.
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Ale k tomu sa dostaneme o chvíľu.
01:40
I've never really talked about it before so explicitly.
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Nikdy predtým som o tom
takto otvorene nehovorila.
takto otvorene nehovorila.
01:46
I think that that's because I've always lived in hope
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Myslím, že je to preto,
že som vždy žila v nádeji,
že som vždy žila v nádeji,
01:48
that when I was a grown-up,
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že keď vyrastiem,
01:51
I wouldn't have one.
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koktať nebudem.
01:57
I sort of lived with this idea that when I'm grown,
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Vždy som mala takú predstavu,
že keď budem dospelá,
že keď budem dospelá,
02:00
I'll have learned to speak French,
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budem vedieť francúzsky,
02:03
and when I'm grown, I'll learn
how to manage my money,
how to manage my money,
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keď budem dospelá,
naučím sa starať o svoje peniaze
naučím sa starať o svoje peniaze
02:07
and when I'm grown, I won't have a stutter,
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a keď vyrastiem, nebudem koktať,
a potom budem schopná verejne prednášať
a možno budem predsedníčkou vlády,
a možno budem predsedníčkou vlády,
02:09
and then I'll be able to public speak
and maybe be the prime minister
and maybe be the prime minister
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02:11
and anything's possible and, you know.
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neobmedzené možnosti, poznáte to.
02:15
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
02:18
So I can talk about it now
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Teraz o tom dokážem rozprávať,
02:21
because I've reached this point, where —
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pretože som dosiahla bod v živote, keď –
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I mean, I'm 28.
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teda, mám 28.
02:29
I'm pretty sure that I'm grown now.
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Som si dosť istá, že teraz už som dospelá.
02:31
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
02:33
And I'm an adult woman
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Som dospelá žena,
02:35
who spends her life as a performer,
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ktorá sa živí ako umelkyňa
02:39
with a speech impediment.
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s rečovou vadou.
02:42
So, I might as well come clean about it.
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Takže už by som sa k tomu
aj mohla priznať.
aj mohla priznať.
02:46
There are some interesting
angles to having a stutter.
angles to having a stutter.
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Koktanie má zopár zaujímavých aspektov.
02:50
For me, the worst thing that can happen
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Najhoršia vec, aká sa mi môže stať,
02:54
is meeting another stutterer.
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je, že stretnem ďalšieho človeka,
ktorý koktá.
ktorý koktá.
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(Laughter)
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(smiech)
03:00
This happened to me in Hamburg, when
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To sa mi stalo v Hamburgu, keď som sa
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this guy, we met and he said,
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zoznamovala s chalanom, ktorý povedal:
03:05
"Hello, m-m-m-my name is Joe,"
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„Ahoj, m-m-m-moje meno je Joe,“
03:09
and I said, "Oh, hello, m-m-m-my name is Meg."
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a ja na to:
„Ahoj, m-m-m-moje meno je Meg.“
„Ahoj, m-m-m-moje meno je Meg.“
03:13
Imagine my horror when I realized
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Predstavte si to zdesenie,
keď som si uvedomila,
keď som si uvedomila,
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he thought I was making fun of him.
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že si myslí, že si z neho robím srandu.
03:18
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
03:24
People think I'm drunk all the time.
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Ľudia si myslia, že som permanentne opitá.
03:29
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
03:32
People think that I've forgotten their name
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Myslia si, že som zabudla ich meno,
03:36
when I hesitate before saying it.
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keď váham pred jeho vyslovením.
03:40
And it is a very weird thing, because
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A je zvláštne, že najhoršie
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proper nouns are the worst.
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je to s vlastnými menami.
03:47
If I'm going to use the word
"Wednesday" in a sentence,
"Wednesday" in a sentence,
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Ak sa chystám vo vete
použiť slovo „streda“
použiť slovo „streda“
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and I'm coming up to the word,
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a blížim sa k nemu
03:54
and I can feel that I'm going to stutter or something,
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a cítim, že začnem koktať,
03:57
I can change the word to "tomorrow,"
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môžem to slovo zmeniť na „zajtra“
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or "the day after Tuesday,"
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alebo „deň po utorku“
04:02
or something else.
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alebo niečo podobné.
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It's clunky, but you can get away with it,
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Je to neohrabané, ale prejde vám to.
04:09
because over time I've developed this
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Totiž za ten čas som si osvojila
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loophole method of using speech
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metódu medzery v reči,
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where right at the last minute you
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keď v poslednej chvíli
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change the thing and you trick your brain.
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zmeníte slovo a tým oklamete svoj mozog.
04:24
But with people's names, you can't change them.
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Ale mená ľudí meniť nemôžete.
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(Laughter)
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(smiech)
04:30
When I was singing a lot of jazz,
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Keď som spievala veľa jazzu,
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I worked a lot with a pianist whose name was Steve.
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často som pracovala s klaviristom,
ktorý sa volal Steve.
ktorý sa volal Steve.
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As you can probably gather,
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Ako ste si asi všimli,
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S's and T's, together or independently,
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S-ká a T-čka, spolu alebo oddelene,
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are my kryptonite.
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sú mojím kryptonitom.
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But I would have to introduce the band
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Ale musela som predstaviť kapelu
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over this rolling vamp,
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počas takej tej krátkej prestávky
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and when I got around to Steve,
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a keď som sa dostala k Stevovi,
04:57
I'd often find myself stuck on the "St."
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často som sa zasekla na "St".
05:03
And it was a bit awkward and uncomfortable
and it totally kills the vibe.
and it totally kills the vibe.
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A to bolo trochu divné a nepríjemné,
a totálne to zničilo atmosféru.
a totálne to zničilo atmosféru.
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So after a few instances of this,
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Takže keď sa toto niekoľkokrát zopakovalo,
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Steve happily became "Seve,"
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Steve sa s potešením stal „Sevom“,
05:16
and we got through it that way. (Laughter)
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a dostali sme sa cez to takto.
(smiech)
(smiech)
05:21
I've had a lot of therapy,
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Absolvovala som veľa terapie
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and a common form of treatment is to use
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a bežnou formou liečby je používanie
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this technique that's called smooth speech,
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techniky, ktorá sa volá hladká reč.
05:31
which is where you almost
sing everything that you say.
sing everything that you say.
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Ide o to, že takmer
spievate všetko, čo hovoríte.
spievate všetko, čo hovoríte.
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You kind of join everything together in this
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Akosi všetko spojíte dokopy takým
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very singsong, kindergarten teacher way,
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veľmi spevavým spôsobom
a la učiteľka v škôlke
a la učiteľka v škôlke
05:43
and it makes you sound very serene,
like you've had lots of Valium,
like you've had lots of Valium,
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a zniete veľmi jasne, ako keby
ste sa nadopovali váliom,
ste sa nadopovali váliom,
05:47
and everything is calm. (Laughter)
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a všetko je pokojné.
(smiech)
(smiech)
05:51
That's not actually me.
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Takto ja normálne nezniem.
05:54
And I do use that. I do.
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Ale používam to.
05:57
I use it when I have to be on panel shows,
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Používam to, keď sa musím
zúčastniť programov
zúčastniť programov
06:04
or when I have to do radio interviews,
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alebo keď musím robiť rozhovory v rádiách,
06:07
when the economy of airtime is paramount.
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kde je hospodárenie s časom rozhodujúce.
06:12
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
06:15
I get through it that way for my job.
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Robím to takto kvôli mojej práci.
06:20
But as an artist who feels that their work
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No ako umelkyňa,
keďže umelci cítia, že ich práca
keďže umelci cítia, že ich práca
06:22
is based solely on a platform of honesty
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je založená hlavne na úprimnosti
06:28
and being real,
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a tom byť skutočný,
06:32
that feels often like cheating.
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často mám pocit, že tým podvádzam.
06:36
Which is why before I sing, I wanted to tell you
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To je dôvod, prečo predtým,
ako budem spievať, vám chcem povedať,
ako budem spievať, vám chcem povedať,
06:39
what singing means to me.
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čo pre mňa spievanie znamená.
06:43
It's more than making nice sounds,
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Nie je to len o vydávaní pekných zvukov,
06:47
and it's more than making nice songs.
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a tvorení pekných skladieb.
06:52
It's more than feeling known, or understood.
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Je to viac ako mať pocit,
že som známa a že mi rozumejú.
že som známa a že mi rozumejú.
06:58
It's more than making you feel the things that I feel.
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Je to viac než len vyvolávať
vo vás pocity, ktoré cítim ja.
vo vás pocity, ktoré cítim ja.
07:04
It's not about mythology,
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Nie je to o mytológii
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or mythologizing myself to you.
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alebo mýtizovaní mňa samej pre vás.
07:12
Somehow, through some miraculous
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Akosi, skrz nejakú zázračnú
07:17
synaptic function of the human brain,
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synaptickú funkciu mozgu,
07:22
it's impossible to stutter when you sing.
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je nemožné koktať pri spievaní.
07:27
And when I was younger,
that was a method of treatment
that was a method of treatment
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Keď som bola mladšia,
toto bola metóda liečby,
toto bola metóda liečby,
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that worked very well for me,
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ktorá na mne veľmi dobre fungovala,
07:33
singing, so I did it a lot.
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spievať, takže som spievala veľa.
07:39
And that's why I'm here today.
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A preto som dnes tu.
07:43
(Applause)
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(potlesk)
07:48
Thank you.
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Ďakujem.
07:54
Singing for me is sweet relief.
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Spievanie je pre mňa sladkou úľavou.
07:58
It is the only time when I feel fluent.
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Jedine vtedy sa cítim plynulá.
08:07
It is the only time when what comes out of my mouth
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Jedine vtedy to, čo vyjde z mojich úst,
08:10
is comprehensively exactly what I intended.
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je komplexne presne to,
čo som mala v úmysle.
čo som mala v úmysle.
08:13
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
08:15
So I know that this is a TED Talk,
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Viem, že toto je TED prednáška,
08:18
but now i'm going to TED sing.
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ale teraz budem TED spievať.
08:22
This is a song that I wrote last year.
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Túto pieseň som napísala minulý rok.
08:23
Thank you very much. Thank you.
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Ďakujem veľmi pekne.
Ďakujem.
Ďakujem.
08:26
(Applause)
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(potlesk)
08:39
(Piano)
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(piano)
08:54
♪ I would be a beauty ♪
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♪ Bola by som kráskou ♪
08:58
♪ but my nose ♪
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♪ no môj nos ♪
09:02
♪ is slightly too big ♪
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♪ je trochu priveľký ♪
09:05
♪ for my face ♪
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♪ na moju tvár ♪
09:09
♪ And I would be a dreamer ♪
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♪ A bola by som snílkom ♪
09:13
♪ but my dream ♪
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♪ no môj sen ♪
09:16
♪ is slightly too big ♪
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♪ je trochu priveľký ♪
09:20
♪ for this space ♪
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♪ na tento svet ♪
09:23
♪ And I would be an angel ♪
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♪ A bola by som anjelom ♪
09:27
♪ but my halo ♪
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♪ no moja svätožiara ♪
09:31
♪ it pales in the glow ♪
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♪ bledne v žiare ♪
09:34
♪ of your grace ♪
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♪ tvojej tváre ♪
09:38
♪ And I would be a joker ♪
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♪ A bola by som žolíkom ♪
09:42
♪ but that card looks silly when you play ♪
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♪ no tá karta vyznie smiešne, keď zahráš ♪
09:50
♪ your ace ♪
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♪ tvoje eso ♪
10:07
♪ I'd like to know ♪
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♪ Rada by som vedela ♪
10:11
♪ Are there stars in hell? ♪
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♪ Sú v pekle hviezdy? ♪
10:15
♪ And I'd like to know ♪
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♪ A rada by som vedela ♪
10:18
♪ know if you can tell ♪
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♪ vedela, či vieš ♪
10:22
♪ that you make me lose everything I know ♪
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♪ že kvôli tebe strácam
všetko, čo poznám ♪
všetko, čo poznám ♪
10:29
♪ That I cannot choose to or not let go ♪
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♪ Že sa neviem rozhodnúť,
či to nechať tak, a či nie ♪
či to nechať tak, a či nie ♪
10:50
♪ And I'd stay forever ♪
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♪ A zostala by som navždy, ♪
10:54
♪ but my home ♪
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♪ no môj domov ♪
10:57
♪ is slightly too far ♪
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♪ je trochu priďaleko ♪
11:01
♪ from this place ♪
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♪ od tohto miesta ♪
11:03
♪ And I swear I tried to ♪
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♪ A prisahám, že som sa snažila ♪
11:08
♪ slow it down ♪
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♪ spomaliť ♪
11:11
♪ when I am walking at your pace ♪
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♪ keď kráčam tvojím tempom ♪
11:18
♪ But all I could think ♪
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♪ No jediné, na čo som dokázala myslieť ♪
11:21
♪ idling through the cities ♪
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♪ túlajúc sa mestami ♪
11:26
♪ do I look pretty in the rain? ♪
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♪ je, vyzerám pekne v daždi? ♪
11:33
♪ And I don't know how someone ♪
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♪ A nechápem ako sa pri niekom ♪
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♪ quite so lovely ♪
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♪ tak nádhernom ♪
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♪ makes me feel ugly ♪
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♪ môžem cítiť taká škaredá ♪
11:46
♪ So much shame ♪
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♪ Taká hanba ♪
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♪ And I'd like to know ♪
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♪ A rada by som vedela ♪
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♪ Are there stars in hell? ♪
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♪ Sú v pekle hviezdy? ♪
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♪ And I'd like to know ♪
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♪ A rada by som vedela ♪
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♪ know if you can tell ♪
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♪ vedela, či vieš, ♪
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♪ that you make me lose everything I know ♪
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♪ že kvôli tebe strácam
všetko, čo poznám ♪
všetko, čo poznám ♪
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♪ that I cannot choose to or not let go ♪
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♪ že sa neviem rozhodnúť,
či to nechať tak, a či nie ♪
či to nechať tak, a či nie ♪
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Thank you very much. (Applause)
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Ďakujem vám veľmi pekne.
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Megan Washington - MusicianMegan Washington has won two ARIA Awards, the Australian equivalent of the Grammys. A popular singer/songwriter, she has recently come clean with a secret—that she has a speech impediment.
Why you should listen
The lyrics of Megan Washington’s songs have a beautiful, confessional tone: she sings about heartbreak, insecurity, rage, you name it. But there is one thing that Washington avoided sharing publicly before stepping on the stage of TEDxSydney 2014: that she has a stutter.
One of Australia’s most promising singer/songwriters, Megan Washington won two ARIA Awards in 2010 for “Best Female Artist” and “Breakthrough Artist” following the release of her album, I Believe You Liar. The album went platinum, and she followed it up in 2012 with Insomnia. Her latest album, There There, was be released on September 12, 2014.
Prior to going solo, Washington played jazz piano with various acts and founded a band called Washington, borrowing her last name. After her breakthrough solo album, she served as a mentor on Australia’s version of The Voice and also spoke on music panels on the show Spicks and Specks, using a method called "smooth speech" to overcome her stuttering on-air. Washington's songs have also appeared in TV shows Girls and Boardwalk Empire.
Megan Washington | Speaker | TED.com