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Anjali Kumar: My failed mission to find God -- and what I found instead
Anđali Kumar (Anjali Kumar): Moja neuspela misija da nađem boga i šta sam pronašla umesto toga
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Anđali Kumar je krenula u potragu za bogom i na kraju pronašla nešto sasvim drugo. U inspirativnom, duhovitom govoru o našoj zajedničkoj ljudskosti, ona nas vodi na spiritualno hodočašće da upoznamo veštice iz Njujorka, šamana iz Perua, zloglasnog „iscelitelja“ iz Brazila i druge, podelivši važnu lekciju: ono što nas povezuje je mnogo snažnije od onog što nas razdvaja, a naše razlike nisu nepremostive.
Anjali Kumar - General counsel, author, "idea acupuncturist"
Anjali Kumar is a Brooklyn-born, first-generation Indian American author, attorney, advisor, speaker and “idea acupuncturist.” Full bio
Anjali Kumar is a Brooklyn-born, first-generation Indian American author, attorney, advisor, speaker and “idea acupuncturist.” Full bio
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00:13
A few years ago,
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Pre nekoliko godina,
00:14
I set out on a mission to find God.
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krenula sam u misiju da pronađem boga.
00:17
Now, I'm going to tell you
right up front that I failed,
right up front that I failed,
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Odmah ću vam reći da nisam uspela,
00:20
which, as a lawyer,
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što je meni, kao advokatu,
00:22
is a really hard thing for me to admit.
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zaista teško da priznam.
00:25
But on that failed journey,
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Ali, na tom neuspelom putovanju
00:27
a lot of what I found was enlightening.
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je mnogo toga što sam pronašla
bilo prosvetljujuće.
bilo prosvetljujuće.
00:30
And one thing in particular
gave me a lot of hope.
gave me a lot of hope.
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Jedna stvar mi je pogotovo
dala mnogo nade.
dala mnogo nade.
00:34
It has to do with the magnitude
and significance of our differences.
and significance of our differences.
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Ima veze sa izraženošću
i značajem naših različitosti.
i značajem naših različitosti.
00:39
So, I was raised in America
by Indian parents -- culturally Hindu,
by Indian parents -- culturally Hindu,
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Odgajili su me u Americi roditelji Indusi,
u kulturnom pogledu Hindu,
u kulturnom pogledu Hindu,
00:43
but practicing a strict and relatively
unknown religion outside of India
unknown religion outside of India
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ali su upražnjavali strogu religiju
koja je relativno nepoznata izvan Indije,
koja je relativno nepoznata izvan Indije,
00:47
called Jainism.
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zvanu đainizam.
00:49
To give you an idea
of just how minority that makes me:
of just how minority that makes me:
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Da vam dam predstavu
o tome koliko sam u manjini zbog toga,
o tome koliko sam u manjini zbog toga,
00:53
people from India represent
roughly one percent of the US population;
roughly one percent of the US population;
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ljudi iz Indije predstavljaju
otprilike jedan odsto stanovništva SAD-a;
otprilike jedan odsto stanovništva SAD-a;
00:57
Hindus, about 0.7 percent;
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hinduisti oko 0,7 posto;
01:00
Jains, at most .00046 percent.
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đainisti najviše 0,00046 posto.
01:07
To put that in context:
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Da to stavimo u kontekst,
01:09
more people visit the Vermont
Teddy Bear Factory each year
Teddy Bear Factory each year
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više ljudi svake godine poseti
fabriku plišanih meda u Vermontu
fabriku plišanih meda u Vermontu
01:12
than are followers
of the Jain religion in America.
of the Jain religion in America.
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nego što ima sledbenika
đainizma u Americi.
đainizma u Americi.
Da doprinesu mojoj manjinskoj kombinaciji,
moji roditelji su potom rešili:
moji roditelji su potom rešili:
01:15
To add to my minority mix,
my parents then decided,
my parents then decided,
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01:18
"What a great idea!
Let's send her to Catholic school" --
Let's send her to Catholic school" --
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„Sjajna ideja! Pošaljimo je
u katoličku školu!“ -
u katoličku školu!“ -
01:21
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:22
where my sister and I
were the only non-white,
were the only non-white,
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gde smo moja sestra i ja
bile jedini učenici
bile jedini učenici
01:24
non-Catholic students
in the entire school.
in the entire school.
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u celoj školi koji nisu beli
i nisu katolici.
i nisu katolici.
01:27
At the Infant Jesus of Prague School
in Flossmoor, Illinois --
in Flossmoor, Illinois --
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U Školi praškog malog Isusa
u Flosmuru u Ilinoisu -
u Flosmuru u Ilinoisu -
01:31
yes, that's really what it was called --
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da, stvarno se tako zove -
01:34
we were taught to believe
that there is a single Supreme Being
that there is a single Supreme Being
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učili su nas da verujemo
da postoji jedinstveno vrhovno biće
da postoji jedinstveno vrhovno biće
01:37
who is responsible for everything,
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koje je odgovorno za sve,
01:40
the whole shebang,
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čitavu stvar,
01:41
from the creation of the Universe
to moral shepherding to eternal life.
to moral shepherding to eternal life.
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od stvaranja univerzuma
i moralnog usmeravanja do večnog života.
i moralnog usmeravanja do večnog života.
01:46
But at home,
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Međutim, kod kuće su me učili
nečemu sasvim drugom.
nečemu sasvim drugom.
01:47
I was being taught something
entirely different.
entirely different.
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01:50
Followers of the Jain religion
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Sledbenici đainizma
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don't believe in a single Supreme Being
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ne veruju u jedinstveno vrhovno biće,
pa čak ni u tim vrhovnih bića.
01:54
or even a team of Supreme Beings.
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Umesto toga su nas učili
da se bog manifestuje
da se bog manifestuje
01:56
Instead, we're taught that God manifests
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01:58
as the perfection of each of us
as individuals,
as individuals,
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kao savršenstvo
svakog od nas kao pojedinca
svakog od nas kao pojedinca
02:01
and that we're actually
spending our entire lives
spending our entire lives
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i da zapravo provodimo čitav život
02:04
striving to remove the bad karmas
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u težnji da uklonimo lošu karmu
02:06
that stand in the way of us
becoming our own godlike, perfect selves.
becoming our own godlike, perfect selves.
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koja se isprečava na našem putu
da postanemo svoje božansko, savršeno ja.
da postanemo svoje božansko, savršeno ja.
02:11
On top of that, one of the core
principles of Jainism
principles of Jainism
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Povrh toga, jedan od suštinskih
principa đainizma
principa đainizma
02:14
is something called "non-absolutism."
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je nešto što se zove „neapsolutizam“.
02:17
Non-absolutists believe
that no single person
that no single person
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Neapsolutisti veruju da nijedna osoba
02:20
can hold ownership or knowledge
of absolute truth,
of absolute truth,
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ne može posedovati
niti znati apsolutnu istinu,
niti znati apsolutnu istinu,
02:24
even when it comes to religious beliefs.
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čak i kada se radi
o religijskim verovanjima.
o religijskim verovanjima.
02:28
Good luck testing that concept out
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Čik isprobajte taj koncept
na sveštenicima i kaluđericama
u svojoj katoličkoj školi.
u svojoj katoličkoj školi.
02:30
on the priests and nuns
in your Catholic school.
in your Catholic school.
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02:32
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:33
No wonder I was confused
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Nije ni čudo što sam bila zbunjena
02:35
and hyperaware of how different
I was from my peers.
I was from my peers.
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i preterano svesna svoje različitosti
u odnosu na svoje vršnjake.
u odnosu na svoje vršnjake.
02:39
Cut to 20-something years later,
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Premotajte film 20 godina kasnije
i smatram sebe veoma spiritualnom osobom,
02:41
and I found myself to be
a highly spiritual person,
a highly spiritual person,
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02:44
but I was floundering.
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ali bila sam nestalna.
02:46
I was spiritually homeless.
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Bila sam duhovni beskućnik.
02:48
I came to learn that I was a "None,"
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Saznala sam da sam „nijedno“,
02:51
which isn't an acronym
or a clever play on words,
or a clever play on words,
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što nije skraćenica
niti pametna igra rečima,
niti pametna igra rečima,
02:54
nor is it one of these.
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a nije ni ovako nešto.
02:57
It's simply the painfully uninspired name
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To je jednostavno
bolno neinspirativni naziv
bolno neinspirativni naziv
03:00
given to everyone
who checks off the box "none"
who checks off the box "none"
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koje se daje svima
koji štrikliraju opciju „nijedno“
koji štrikliraju opciju „nijedno“
03:04
when Pew Research asks them
about their religious affiliation.
about their religious affiliation.
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kada ih Istraživački centar Pju
pita kojoj religiji pripadaju.
pita kojoj religiji pripadaju.
03:07
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:08
Now, a couple of interesting
things about Nones are:
things about Nones are:
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Par zanimljivih stvari o „nijednima“:
ima nas mnogo
03:11
there are a lot of us,
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03:12
and we skew young.
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i pretežno smo mladi.
03:14
In 2014, there were over 56 million
religiously unaffiliated Nones
religiously unaffiliated Nones
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Godine 2014. bilo je više od 56 miliona
„nijednih“ bez verske pripadnosti
„nijednih“ bez verske pripadnosti
03:21
in the United States.
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u Sjedinjenim Državama.
03:23
And Nones account
for over one-third of adults
for over one-third of adults
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„Nijedni“ obuhvataju
više od trećine odraslih
više od trećine odraslih
03:27
between the ages of 18 to 33.
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starosti između 18 i 33 godine.
03:30
But the most interesting thing
to me about Nones
to me about Nones
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Ali je po meni najzanimljivija stvar
vezana za „nijedne“
vezana za „nijedne“
03:33
is that we're often spiritual.
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to da smo često spiritualni.
03:35
In fact, 68 percent of us believe,
with some degree of certainty,
with some degree of certainty,
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Zapravo, 68 posto nas veruje,
sa određenim stepenom sigurnosti,
sa određenim stepenom sigurnosti,
03:40
that there is a God.
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da postoji bog.
03:41
We're just not sure who it is.
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Samo nismo sigurni ko je to.
03:42
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:45
So the first takeaway for me
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Prvo što sam uvidela
03:47
when I realized I was a None
and had found that information out
and had found that information out
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kada sam shvatila da sam „nijedno“
i došla do ove informacije
i došla do ove informacije
03:51
was that I wasn't alone.
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je da nisam sama.
03:54
I was finally part of a group in America
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Konačno sam bila deo grupe u Americi
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that had a lot of members,
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koja je imala mnogo članova,
03:57
which felt really reassuring.
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što me je zaista ohrabrivalo.
03:59
But then the second,
not-so-reassuring takeaway
not-so-reassuring takeaway
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Ali drugo što sam uvidela,
a što nije tako ohrabrujuće,
a što nije tako ohrabrujuće,
04:02
was that, oh, man, there are a lot of us.
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je da, o čoveče, ima nas puno.
04:04
That can't be good,
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To ne može biti dobro,
04:05
because if a lot of highly spiritual
people are currently godless,
people are currently godless,
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jer ako je veliki broj izuzetno
spiritualnih ljudi trenutno bezbožno,
spiritualnih ljudi trenutno bezbožno,
04:09
maybe finding God is not going to be
as easy as I had originally hoped.
as easy as I had originally hoped.
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možda pronalaženje boga neće biti
tako lako kao što sam se isprva nadala.
tako lako kao što sam se isprva nadala.
04:13
So that is when I decided
that on my spiritual journey,
that on my spiritual journey,
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Tada sam odlučila
da ću na svom duhovnom putovanju
da ću na svom duhovnom putovanju
04:16
I was going to avoid the obvious places
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zaobilaziti očigledna mesta,
04:19
and skip the big-box religions altogether
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sasvim preskočiti najveće religije
04:21
and instead venture out
into the spiritual fringe
into the spiritual fringe
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i umesto toga zaći
u sporedne duhovne ulice
u sporedne duhovne ulice
04:25
of mediums
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medijuma,
04:26
and faith healers
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verskih iscelitelja
04:28
and godmen.
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i ljudi-bogova.
04:30
But remember, I'm a non-absolutist,
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Ali upamtite, ja sam neapsolutista,
04:32
which means I was pretty inclined
to keep a fairly open mind,
to keep a fairly open mind,
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što znači da sam prilično sklona
da budem prilično otvorenog uma,
da budem prilično otvorenog uma,
04:36
which turned out to be a good thing,
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što se ispostavilo kao dobra stvar,
jer sam otišla na večeru veštica
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because I went to a witch's potluck dinner
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04:42
at the LGBT Center in New York City,
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u Centru LGBT zajednice u Njujorku,
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where I befriended two witches;
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gde sam se sprijateljila sa dve veštice;
04:47
drank a five-gallon jerrican
full of volcanic water
full of volcanic water
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ispila kanister od 19 litara
pun vulkanske vode
pun vulkanske vode
04:51
with a shaman in Peru;
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sa šamanom u Peruu;
04:54
got a hug from a saint
in the convention center --
in the convention center --
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dobila zagrljaj od svetice
u kongresnom centru -
u kongresnom centru -
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she smelled really nice --
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baš je lepo mirisala -
04:57
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
04:59
chanted for hours in a smoke-filled,
heat-infused sweat lodge
heat-infused sweat lodge
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satima pojala u kolibi
punoj dima i sparine
punoj dima i sparine
na plažama Meksika,
05:03
on the beaches of Mexico;
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05:05
worked with a tequila-drinking medium
to convene with the dead,
to convene with the dead,
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radila sa medijumom koja je pila tekilu
na prizivanju mrtvih,
na prizivanju mrtvih,
05:09
who oddly included both
my deceased mother-in-law
my deceased mother-in-law
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koji su nekim čudom ubrajali
moju pokojnu svekrvu
moju pokojnu svekrvu
05:12
and the deceased manager
of the hip-hop group The Roots.
of the hip-hop group The Roots.
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i preminulog menadžera
hip-hop grupe The Roots.
hip-hop grupe The Roots.
05:15
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:16
Yeah, my mother-in-law told me
she was really happy
she was really happy
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Da, svekrva mi je rekla da je baš srećna
05:19
her son had chosen me for his wife.
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što me je njen sin odabrao za ženu.
05:21
Duh! But --
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Logično! Ali -
05:22
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:24
Yeah.
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Da.
05:26
But the manager of The Roots
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Ali menadžer grupe The Roots
05:28
said that maybe I should cut back
on all the pasta I was eating.
on all the pasta I was eating.
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je rekao da bih možda malo da smanjim
količinu testenine koju jedem.
količinu testenine koju jedem.
05:31
I think we can all agree
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Mislim da ćemo se složiti
da je moj muž imao sreće
da nije njegova mrtva majka
da nije njegova mrtva majka
05:33
that it was lucky for my husband
that it wasn't his dead mother
that it wasn't his dead mother
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ta koja je predložila
da smanjim ugljene hidrate.
da smanjim ugljene hidrate.
05:36
who suggested I lay off carbs.
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05:37
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:38
I also joined a laughing yoga group
out of South Africa;
out of South Africa;
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Takođe sam se pridružila grupi
joge smeha iz Južne Afrike,
joge smeha iz Južne Afrike,
05:43
witnessed a woman have
a 45-minute orgasm --
a 45-minute orgasm --
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prisustvovala orgazmu
jedne žene od 45 minuta -
jedne žene od 45 minuta -
ne izmišljam -
05:47
I am not making this up --
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05:48
as she tapped into
the energy of the universe --
the energy of the universe --
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kada je zaronila u energiju univerzuma -
mislim da ću se vratiti tamo -
05:51
I think I'm going to go back there --
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05:53
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:57
called God from a phone booth
in the Nevada desert at Burning Man,
in the Nevada desert at Burning Man,
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zvala boga iz govornice u pustinji
u Nevadi na festivalu Burning Man,
u Nevadi na festivalu Burning Man,
06:01
wearing a unitard and ski goggles;
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u jednodelnom kostimu
i sa naočarima za skijanje;
i sa naočarima za skijanje;
06:04
and I had an old Indian guy
lie on top of me,
lie on top of me,
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i jedan stari Indus je ležao na meni
06:08
and no, he wasn't my husband.
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i, ne, nije bio moj muž.
06:10
This was a perfect stranger named Paramji,
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To je bio potpuni stranac
po imenu Paramdži
po imenu Paramdži
06:12
and he was chanting into my chakras
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i pojao je u moje čakre
06:14
as he tapped into the energy forces
of the Universe to heal my "yoni,"
of the Universe to heal my "yoni,"
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dok je prodirao u energetske sile
univerzuma da zaleči moju „joni“,
univerzuma da zaleči moju „joni“,
06:19
which is a Sanskrit word for "vagina."
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što je na sanskritu reč za „vaginu“.
06:22
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
06:23
I was going to have a slide here,
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Trebalo je da ovde bude slajd,
06:25
but a few people suggested
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ali nekoliko ljudi je sugerisalo
06:26
that a slide of my yoni
at TED -- even TEDWomen --
at TED -- even TEDWomen --
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da slajd sa mojom joni na TED-u -
pa čak i na konferenciji TEDWoman -
pa čak i na konferenciji TEDWoman -
06:31
not the best idea.
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nije baš najbolja ideja.
06:32
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
06:34
Very early in my quest,
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Vrlo rano u svom pohodu
06:36
I also went to see the Brazilian
faith healer John of God
faith healer John of God
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išla sam da vidim brazilskog
verskog iscelitelja Jovana Božjeg
verskog iscelitelja Jovana Božjeg
06:39
at his compound down in Brazil.
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u njegovom kompleksu u Brazilu.
06:42
Now, John of God is considered
a full-trance medium,
a full-trance medium,
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Jovana Božjeg smatraju
medijumom u potpunom transu,
medijumom u potpunom transu,
06:45
which basically means
he can talk to dead people.
he can talk to dead people.
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što u suštini znači
da može da govori sa mrtvima.
da može da govori sa mrtvima.
06:48
But in his case, he claims
to channel a very specific group
to channel a very specific group
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Ali, u njegovom slučaju, on tvrdi
da je kanal za vrlo specifičnu grupu
da je kanal za vrlo specifičnu grupu
06:51
of dead saints and doctors
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mrtvih svetaca i doktora
06:53
in order to heal
whatever's wrong with you.
whatever's wrong with you.
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kako bi izlečio
šta god da nije u redu sa vama.
šta god da nije u redu sa vama.
06:55
And although John of God does
not have a medical degree
not have a medical degree
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Iako Jovan Božji nema diplomu medicine,
06:58
or even a high school diploma,
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pa čak ni diplomu srednje škole,
07:01
he actually performs surgery --
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on vrši operacije -
07:04
the real kind, with a scalpel,
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prave, pomoću skalpela,
07:06
but no anesthesia.
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ali bez anestezije.
Da, ne znam baš.
07:08
Yeah, I don't know.
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Takođe nudi nevidljive operacije,
gde nema zasecanja,
gde nema zasecanja,
07:10
He also offers invisible surgery,
where there is no cutting,
where there is no cutting,
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07:13
and surrogate surgery,
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i surogat-operacije,
07:14
where he supposedly can treat somebody
who is thousands of miles away
who is thousands of miles away
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gde navodno može da leči nekog
ko je udaljen hiljadama kilometara
ko je udaljen hiljadama kilometara
07:18
by performing a procedure on a loved one.
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vršeći proceduru na voljenoj osobi.
07:21
Now, when you go to visit John of God,
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Kada odete da posetite Jovana Božjeg,
07:23
there are all kinds
of rules and regulations.
of rules and regulations.
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postoje razna pravila i propisi.
To je načisto komplikovana stvar,
07:25
It's a whole complicated thing,
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07:27
but the bottom line is that
you can visit John of God
you can visit John of God
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ali suština je da možete
posetiti Jovana Božjeg
posetiti Jovana Božjeg
07:30
and present him with three things
that you would like fixed,
that you would like fixed,
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i izneti mu tri stvari
koje biste voleli da se srede,
koje biste voleli da se srede,
07:33
and he will set the dead saints
and doctors to work on your behalf
and doctors to work on your behalf
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a on će u vaše ime angažovati
mrtve svece i doktore
mrtve svece i doktore
07:37
to get the job done.
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da odrade posao.
07:38
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
07:39
Now, before you snicker,
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Pre nego što se podsmehnete,
07:41
consider
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uzmite u obzir da,
07:43
that, at least according to his website,
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bar prema njegovom veb-sajtu,
više od osam miliona ljudi -
07:45
over eight million people --
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07:47
including Oprah,
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uključujući Opru,
07:49
the Goddess of Daytime TV --
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boginju dnevnog TV programa -
07:52
have gone to see John of God,
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išlo je da vidi Jovana Božjeg,
07:54
and I was pre-wired to keep an open mind.
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i unapred sam bila programirana
da budem otvorenog uma.
da budem otvorenog uma.
07:58
But to be honest, the whole thing for me
was kind of weird and inconclusive,
was kind of weird and inconclusive,
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Ali, iskreno rečeno, cela stvar je za mene
bila nekako čudna i neubedljiva,
bila nekako čudna i neubedljiva,
08:01
and in the end, I flew home,
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a na kraju sam letela kući
08:03
even more confused
than I already started out.
than I already started out.
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još više zbunjena nego na početku.
08:06
But that doesn't mean
I came home empty-handed.
I came home empty-handed.
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Ali to ne znači
da sam došla kući praznih ruku.
da sam došla kući praznih ruku.
Tokom nekoliko nedelja koje su prethodile
mom putovanju u Brazil,
mom putovanju u Brazil,
08:10
In the weeks leading up
to my trip to Brazil,
to my trip to Brazil,
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08:13
I mentioned my upcoming plans
to some friends
to some friends
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pomenula sam svoje predstojeće planove
nekim svojim prijateljima
nekim svojim prijateljima
08:15
and to a couple of colleagues at Google,
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i nekolicini kolega u Guglu,
08:17
where I was a lawyer at the time.
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gde sam bila advokat u to vreme.
08:20
And I might have mentioned it
to a couple more people
to a couple more people
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Možda sam to pomenula i još nekim ljudima
jer sam brbljiva,
08:22
because I'm chatty,
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uključujući mog komšiju,
08:23
including my neighbor,
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08:25
the guy who works at the local
coffee shop I go to each morning,
coffee shop I go to each morning,
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tipa koji radi u lokalnom kafiću
u koji idem svakog jutra,
u koji idem svakog jutra,
08:29
the checkout lady at Whole Foods
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kasirku u prodavnici zdrave hrane
08:31
and a stranger who sat
next to me on the subway.
next to me on the subway.
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i neznanku koja je sedela
pored mene u metrou.
pored mene u metrou.
08:34
I told each of them where I was going
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Rekla sam svakome od njih gde idem
08:36
and why,
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i zašto,
08:38
and I offered to carry three wishes
of theirs down to Brazil,
of theirs down to Brazil,
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i ponudila sam se da odnesem
tri njihove želje u Brazil,
tri njihove želje u Brazil,
08:42
explaining that anyone going
to see John of God
to see John of God
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uz objašnjenje da bilo ko da ode
da vidi Jovana Božjeg
da vidi Jovana Božjeg
08:45
could act as a proxy for others
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može da bude zamena za druge
08:47
and save them the trip.
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i da ih poštedi putovanja.
08:49
And to my surprise, my in-box overflowed.
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Na moje iznenađenje,
moj inboks je bio pretrpan.
moj inboks je bio pretrpan.
Prijatelji su ispričali prijateljima
koji su ispričali prijateljima,
koji su ispričali prijateljima,
08:53
Friends told friends who told friends,
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08:55
and those friends
apparently told more friends,
apparently told more friends,
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a oni su očigledno drugim prijateljima,
08:58
other strangers
and the guys at their coffee shops,
and the guys at their coffee shops,
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neznancima i ljudima u kafićima,
09:00
until it seemed that days
before I left for Brazil
before I left for Brazil
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tako da se nekoliko dana
pre nego što sam otišla u Brazil
pre nego što sam otišla u Brazil
09:02
that there was no one who did not
have my email address.
have my email address.
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činilo da nije postojala osoba
koja nije imala moju imejl adresu.
koja nije imala moju imejl adresu.
09:06
And at the time, all I could conclude
was that I had offered too much
was that I had offered too much
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U to vreme, sve što sam mogla
da zaključim je da sam ponudila previše
da zaključim je da sam ponudila previše
09:11
to too many.
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prevelikom broju ljudi.
09:13
But when I actually reread
those messages a few years later,
those messages a few years later,
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Ali kada sam ponovo pročitala
te poruke nekoliko godina kasnije,
te poruke nekoliko godina kasnije,
09:18
I noticed something completely different.
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primetila sam nešto sasvim drugačije.
09:22
Those emails actually shared
three commonalities,
three commonalities,
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Ti imejlovi su imali
tri iste zajedničke stvari,
tri iste zajedničke stvari,
09:26
the first of which was rather curious.
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od kojih me je prva veoma zaintrigirala.
09:29
Almost everyone sent me meticulous details
about how they could be reached.
about how they could be reached.
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Skoro svi su mi poslali precizne detalje
o tome kako doći do njih.
o tome kako doći do njih.
Rekla sam im, ili su im prijatelji rekli,
09:35
I had told them,
or their friends had told them,
or their friends had told them,
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09:38
that along with the list
of the three things they wanted fixed,
of the three things they wanted fixed,
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da mi je, pored spiska tri stvari
koje su hteli da se poprave,
koje su hteli da se poprave,
09:41
I needed their photo, their name
and their date of birth.
and their date of birth.
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potrebna njihova fotografija,
ime i datum rođenja.
ime i datum rođenja.
09:45
But they gave me full addresses, with,
like, apartment numbers and zip codes,
like, apartment numbers and zip codes,
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Ali su mi dali pune adrese,
sa brojevima stana i poštanskim brojevima,
sa brojevima stana i poštanskim brojevima,
09:49
as if John of God was going
to stop by their house
to stop by their house
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kao da će Jovan Božji
zastati pored njihove kuće
zastati pored njihove kuće
i videti ih uživo ili im poslati paket.
09:52
and see them in person
or send along a package.
or send along a package.
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09:55
It was as if, in the highly unlikely event
that their wishes were granted
that their wishes were granted
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Kao da su, u vrlo neverovatnom slučaju
da Jovan Božji ispuni njihove želje,
da Jovan Božji ispuni njihove želje,
09:59
by John of God,
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10:00
they just wanted to make sure
that they weren't delivered
that they weren't delivered
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hteli da se postaraju da ne budu upućene
10:03
to the wrong person or the wrong address.
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na pogrešnu osobu ili pogrešnu adresu.
10:05
Even if they didn't believe,
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Čak i ako nisu verovali,
10:07
they were hedging their bets.
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hteli su da se osiguraju.
10:10
The second commonality
was just as curious,
was just as curious,
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Druga zajednička stvar
bila je podjednako zanimljiva,
bila je podjednako zanimljiva,
10:14
but far more humbling.
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ali mnogo prizemnija.
10:17
Virtually everyone --
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Bukvalno svi -
10:19
the stranger on the subway,
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neznanka iz metroa,
10:21
the guy at the coffee shop,
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tip iz kafića,
10:23
the lawyer down the hall,
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advokat na drugoj strani hodnika,
Jevrejin, ateista, musliman,
posvećeni katolik -
posvećeni katolik -
10:25
the Jew, the atheist,
the Muslim, the devout Catholic --
the Muslim, the devout Catholic --
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10:28
all asked for essentially
the same three things.
the same three things.
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svi su u suštini tražili tri iste stvari.
U redu, bilo je par onih koji su odstupali
i da, nekoliko ljudi je tražilo novac.
i da, nekoliko ljudi je tražilo novac.
10:33
OK, there were a couple of outliers,
and yes, a few people asked for cash.
and yes, a few people asked for cash.
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10:36
But when I eliminated what were
ultimately a handful of anomalies,
ultimately a handful of anomalies,
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Ali kada sam eliminisala ono što je
naposletku bila šačica anomalija,
naposletku bila šačica anomalija,
10:41
the similarities were staggering.
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sličnosti su bile zapanjujuće.
10:45
Almost every single person
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Skoro svaka osoba
10:48
first asked for good health
for themselves and their families.
for themselves and their families.
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prvo je tražila dobro zdravlje
za sebe i svoju porodicu.
za sebe i svoju porodicu.
10:54
Almost universally,
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Skoro bez izuzetka,
10:56
they next asked for happiness
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zatim su tražili sreću
10:58
and then love,
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i onda ljubav,
11:01
in that order:
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tim redom:
11:03
health, happiness, love.
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zdravlje, sreća, ljubav.
11:07
Sometimes they asked for a specific
health issue to be fixed,
health issue to be fixed,
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Ponekad bi tražili da se reši
određeni zdravstveni problem,
određeni zdravstveni problem,
ali najčešće bi samo tražili
uopšteno dobro zdravlje.
uopšteno dobro zdravlje.
11:10
but more often than not, they just
asked for good health in general.
asked for good health in general.
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11:15
When it came to happiness,
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Što se tiče sreće,
11:17
they each phrased it slightly differently,
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svako bi je formulisao malo drugačije,
11:20
but they all asked for the same
specific subtype of happiness, too --
specific subtype of happiness, too --
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ali su svi oni tražili
istu određenu podvrstu sreće -
istu određenu podvrstu sreće -
11:26
the kind of happiness that sinks in
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takvu sreću koja se primi
11:28
and sets down roots in your soul;
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i ukoreni u duši;
11:32
the kind of happiness
that could sustain us,
that could sustain us,
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takvu sreću koja bi nas održala
čak i da izgubimo apsolutno sve ostalo.
11:35
even if we were to lose
absolutely everything else.
absolutely everything else.
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11:40
And for love,
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A što se tiče ljubavi,
11:42
they all asked for the kind
of romantic love,
of romantic love,
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svi su tražili romantičnu ljubav,
11:45
the soul mate that we read about
in epic romantic novels,
in epic romantic novels,
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srodnu dušu o kojoj čitamo
u epskim romantičnim romanima,
u epskim romantičnim romanima,
11:50
the kind of love that will stay with us
till the end of our days.
till the end of our days.
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takvu ljubav koja ostaje u nama
do poslednjeg dana.
do poslednjeg dana.
11:55
Sorry, that's my husband.
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Izvinite, to je moj muž.
Dođavola! Sad sam zaboravila
gde sam stala.
gde sam stala.
12:00
Crap! Now I forgot my place.
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12:02
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
12:05
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
12:14
So by and large,
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Tako da su većim delom
12:16
all of these friends and strangers,
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svi ovi prijatelji i nepoznati ljudi,
12:18
regardless of their background,
race or religion,
race or religion,
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bez obzira na svoje poreklo,
rasu i religiju,
rasu i religiju,
12:22
all asked for the same things,
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svi tražili iste stvari,
a to su bile iste stvari
koje sam ja zaista želela,
koje sam ja zaista želela,
12:24
and they were the same things
that I really wanted,
that I really wanted,
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12:27
the simplified version
of the basic human needs
of the basic human needs
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pojednostavljena verzija
osnovnih ljudskih potreba
osnovnih ljudskih potreba
12:30
identified by social scientists
like Abraham Maslow and Manfred Max-Neef.
like Abraham Maslow and Manfred Max-Neef.
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koje su ustanovili društveni naučnici
poput Abrahama Maslova
poput Abrahama Maslova
i Manfreda Maksa Nifa.
12:35
No one asked for answers
to the big existential questions
to the big existential questions
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Niko nije tražio odgovore
na velika egzistencijalna pitanja,
na velika egzistencijalna pitanja,
12:38
or for proof of God or the meaning of life
like I had set out to find.
like I had set out to find.
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dokaz da bog postoji ili smisao života
za kojima sam ja krenula da tragam.
za kojima sam ja krenula da tragam.
12:42
They didn't even ask for an end
to war or global hunger.
to war or global hunger.
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Nisu čak tražili ni kraj rata
ili gladi u svetu.
ili gladi u svetu.
12:46
Even when they could have asked
for absolutely anything,
for absolutely anything,
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Čak i kada nije bilo apsolutno ničeg
što bi mogli da zatraže,
što bi mogli da zatraže,
12:50
they all asked for health,
happiness and love.
happiness and love.
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svi su tražili zdravlje, sreću i ljubav.
12:55
So now those emails had
a third commonality as well.
a third commonality as well.
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Ti imejlovi su imali i treću podudarnost.
12:59
Each of them ended in the exact same way.
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Svaki od njih se isto završavao.
13:03
Instead of thanking me for carting
their wishes all the way to Brazil,
their wishes all the way to Brazil,
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Umesto da mi zahvale
što nosim njihove želje čak u Brazil,
što nosim njihove želje čak u Brazil,
13:08
everyone said,
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svi su rekli:
13:11
"Please don't tell anyone."
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„Molim te da nikome ne kažeš.“
13:14
So I decided to tell everyone --
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Pa sam rešila da svima kažem -
13:16
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:18
right here on this stage,
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baš ovde na pozornici,
13:21
not because I'm untrustworthy,
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ne zato što mi se ne može verovati,
13:23
but because the fact
that we have so much in common
that we have so much in common
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već zato što mislim da je činjenicu
da imamo toliko toga zajedničkog
da imamo toliko toga zajedničkog
13:27
feels especially important for us
all to hear, especially now,
all to hear, especially now,
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naročito važno da svi čujemo,
pogotovo sada,
pogotovo sada,
13:30
when so many of the world's problems
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kada izgleda da toliko problema u svetu
13:32
seem to be because we keep focusing
on the things that make us different,
on the things that make us different,
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postoji jer se uporno fokusiramo
na stvari zbog kojih se razlikujemo,
na stvari zbog kojih se razlikujemo,
13:36
not on what binds us together.
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a ne na ono što nas spaja.
13:39
And look -- I am the first to admit
that I am not a statistician,
that I am not a statistician,
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Vidite, odmah priznajem
da nisam statističar
da nisam statističar
13:44
and that the data I presented to you
that I just accumulated in my in-box
that I just accumulated in my in-box
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i da su podaci koje sam vam iznela
koje sam prikupila u svom inboksu
koje sam prikupila u svom inboksu
13:48
is more anecdotal than scientific,
more qualitative than quantitative.
more qualitative than quantitative.
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više anegdotski nego naučni,
više kvalitativni nego kvantitativni.
više kvalitativni nego kvantitativni.
13:54
It is, as anyone who works
with data would tell you,
with data would tell you,
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To teško da je, kao što bi vam rekao
bilo ko da radi sa podacima,
bilo ko da radi sa podacima,
13:57
hardly a statistically significant
or demographically balanced sample.
or demographically balanced sample.
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statistički značajan
ili demografski uravnotežen uzorak.
ili demografski uravnotežen uzorak.
Ali ipak često zateknem sebe
kako razmišljam o ovim imejlovima
kako razmišljam o ovim imejlovima
14:01
But nonetheless, I find myself
thinking about those emails
thinking about those emails
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every time I reflect back
on the bias and prejudice
on the bias and prejudice
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svaki put kada se osvrnem
na pristrasnosti i predrasude
na pristrasnosti i predrasude
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that I've faced in my life,
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sa kojima sam se suočavala u životu,
ili kad se desi još jedan zločin iz mržnje
ili besmislena tragedija
ili besmislena tragedija
14:11
or when there's another hate crime
or a senseless tragedy
or a senseless tragedy
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that underscores the disheartening sense
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koji naglase taj osećaj razočaranja
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that our differences
might be insurmountable.
might be insurmountable.
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time što naše različitosti
mogu biti nepremostive.
mogu biti nepremostive.
Tada podsetim sebe da imam dokaz
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I then remind myself that I have evidence
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that the humbling, unifying commonality
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da je skromna zajednička stvar
14:26
of our humanity
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koja objedinjuje ljudski rod
14:27
is that, even when presented
with the opportunity
with the opportunity
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to da, čak i kada nam se pruži prilika
14:30
to ask for anything at all,
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da zatražimo bilo šta,
14:32
most of us want the same things,
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većina nas želi iste stvari,
14:34
and that this is true
no matter who we are,
no matter who we are,
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a to je tako bez obzira na to ko smo,
14:38
what name we call our god,
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kojim imenom nazivamo svog boga
14:40
or which religion, if any, we call home.
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i koju religiju, ako je uopšte imamo,
smatramo svojom.
smatramo svojom.
14:45
I then also note
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Zatim, takođe primetim
14:46
that apparently some of us
want these things so badly
want these things so badly
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da očigledno neki među nama
toliko snažno žele te stvari
toliko snažno žele te stvari
14:50
that we would email a None,
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da bi poslali imejl „nijednom“ ,
14:53
a spiritually confused None like me --
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spiritualno zbunjenom „nijednom“
kao što sam ja -
kao što sam ja -
14:56
some might say otherwise
confused as well --
confused as well --
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neko bi rekao i inače zbunjenom -
14:59
and that we would seek out this stranger
and email her our deepest wishes,
and email her our deepest wishes,
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i da bismo potražili tu nepoznatu osobu
i poslali joj imejl sa najdubljim željama,
i poslali joj imejl sa najdubljim željama,
15:04
just in case there is
the remote possibility
the remote possibility
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tek za slučaj da postoji
eventualna mogućnost
eventualna mogućnost
15:07
that they might be granted
by someone who is not a god,
by someone who is not a god,
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da će ih ispuniti neko ko nije bog,
15:11
much less our god,
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a pogotovo ne naš bog,
15:13
someone who is not even
a member of our chosen religion,
a member of our chosen religion,
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neko ko čak nije ni član
naše odabrane religije,
naše odabrane religije,
15:17
someone who, when you
look at him on paper,
look at him on paper,
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neko ko se, kada ga pogledate na papiru,
ne čini kao verovatan kandidat
da to izvede.
da to izvede.
15:20
seems like an unlikely
candidate to deliver.
candidate to deliver.
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15:24
And so now,
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Tako da sada,
15:26
when I reflect back on my spiritual quest,
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kada se osvrnem
na svoju spiritualnu potragu,
na svoju spiritualnu potragu,
15:31
even though I did not find God,
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iako nisam pronašla boga,
15:35
I found a home in this:
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pronašla sam dom u ovome:
15:39
even today, in a world
fractured by religious,
fractured by religious,
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čak i danas, u svetu slomljenom verskim,
15:44
ethnic, political, philosophical,
and racial divides,
and racial divides,
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etničkim, političkim,
filozofskim i rasnim podelama,
filozofskim i rasnim podelama,
15:49
even with all of our obvious differences,
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čak i uz sve naše očigledne razlike,
15:52
at the end of the day,
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na kraju krajeva,
15:54
and the most fundamental level,
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na najosnovnijem nivou,
15:56
we are all the same.
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svi smo mi isti.
15:59
Thank you.
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Hvala.
16:00
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Anjali Kumar - General counsel, author, "idea acupuncturist"Anjali Kumar is a Brooklyn-born, first-generation Indian American author, attorney, advisor, speaker and “idea acupuncturist.”
Why you should listen
Anjali Kumar is the Chief People Officer and General Counsel at Cheddar, author and "idea acupuncturist." She was formerly the Head of Social Innovation and Founding General Counsel at Warby Parker, a transformative lifestyle brand offering designer eyewear at affordable prices while leading the way for socially conscious businesses. Prior to joining Warby Parker, Kumar was Senior Counsel at Google where she was a commercial and product attorney on areas ranging from Google X to YouTube. She is an Adjunct Professor at Columbia Business School and Fordham University and serves as an advisor to prominent technology companies, luxury fashion brands, consumer products and non-profit organizations including Malala Fund, IDEO.org and organize.org. She serves on the Board of Directors of Happy Money, GloScience Professional, Amplifier Foundation, Edible Schoolyard NY, and GrowNYC and the Guggenheim museum’s Global Innovation Group. Anjali’s first book, Stalking God: My Unorthodox Search for Something to Believe In, comes out January 2018 via Seal Press.
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