Kate Darling: Why we have an emotional connection to robots
Kate Darling: Por que temos uma relação sentimental com os robôs
Kate Darling investigates the relationship between humans and robots -- now, and in the future. Full bio
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a baby dinosaur robot upside down.
robô bebê de cabeça para baixo.
that I had ordered,
que eu havia encomendado.
porque sempre adorei robôs.
because I've always loved robots.
technical features.
was a tilt sensor,
ele estava voltado.
so I was showing it off to my friend,
mostrei a meu amigo e disse:
See what it does."
the theatrics of this robot
to make it stop crying.
para ele parar de chorar.
a weird experience for me.
maternal person at the time.
mais maternal no momento.
a mother, nine months ago,
when you hold them upside down.
quando são segurados de cabeça para baixo.
também foi interessante,
was also interesting
how this machine worked,
como aquela máquina funcionava
compelled to be kind to it.
obrigada a ser gentil com ele.
was that my treatment of this machine
de tratar aquela máquina
delicado em minha sala de estar.
in my living room,
integrating robots into our lives,
integrando robôs em nossa vida,
might actually have consequences,
pode ter consequências,
is that it's not just me.
é que não sou a única.
reported that the United States military
que as Forças Armadas dos EUA
that defused land mines.
que desativava minas terrestres.
was it was shaped like a stick insect
semelhante a um bicho-pau
around a minefield on its legs,
minado sobre suas pernas.
one of the legs would blow up,
uma de suas pernas explodia,
to blow up more mines.
para explodir mais minas.
of this testing exercise
desse exercício de teste
drag itself along the minefield.
se arrastando pelo campo minado.
a hardened military officer
militar inveterado
by science fiction and pop culture
pela ficção científica e cultura popular
hardwired to project intent and life
mentalmente para projetar intenção e vida
that seems autonomous to us.
físico que nos pareça autônomo.
of robots like they're alive.
de robôs como se tivessem vida.
de bombas têm nomes.
with gun salutes.
even with very simple household robots,
até com os robôs domésticos mais simples,
around your floor to clean it,
pelo chão para limpá-lo,
around on its own
leva as pessoas a chamarem-no de Roomba
when it gets stuck under the couch.
fica preso embaixo do sofá.
specifically to evoke this response,
para provocarem essa reação,
subconsciously associate
de forma automática e subconsciente
called human-robot interaction
chamada interação homem-robô,
at Stanford University found out
da Universidade Stanford
ficam desconfortáveis
as partes íntimas de um robô.
a robot's private parts.
dados a elas por essas máquinas realistas,
respond to the cues given to them
where robots are everywhere.
em que há robôs por toda a parte.
from behind factory walls.
está deixando as fábricas
de trabalho e nas casas.
and make autonomous decisions and learn
sentir, tomar decisões e aprender
analogy we have for this
para essa situação
we started to domesticate animals,
a domesticar os animais,
and weaponry and companionship.
a defesa e a companhia.
some animals like tools or like products,
animais como ferramentas ou produtos
we've treated with kindness
as our companions.
como nossos companheiros.
to integrate robots in similar ways.
a integrar robôs de forma semelhante.
from working with roboticists,
com especialistas em robótica,
robots that can feel anything.
robôs que possam sentir qualquer coisa.
robots into these shared spaces,
robôs a esses espaços compartilhados,
treat them differently than other devices,
diferente de outras máquinas,
who becomes emotionally attached
que fica emocionalmente apegado
from inefficient to dangerous.
it can actually be useful
connection to robots.
sentimental com os robôs.
with autistic children
com crianças autistas
that we haven't seen previously,
de maneira nunca vista,
kids in learning with new results.
na aprendizagem com novos resultados.
podem ajudar médicos e pacientes
can help doctors and patients
and with dementia patients.
e com pacientes com demência.
being at a party
estar em uma festa
robots instead of human care."
às pessoas em vez de cuidados humanos".
it's not what this robot replaces.
o que o robô substitui.
we can't use real animals
usar animais de verdade,
them more like an animal than a device.
mais como animais do que como máquinas.
connection to robots
sentimental com os robôs
areas of people's lives.
em áreas mais íntimas da vida das pessoas.
if your child's teddy bear robot
ursinho de pelúcia de seus filhos
has compelling in-app purchases?
irresistíveis pelo aplicativo?
consumer protection and privacy.
à proteção do consumidor e à privacidade.
a essas máquinas pode ser importante.
these machines could matter.
initial experience I had
com o dinossauro robô bebê,
with my friend Hannes Gassert.
Hannes Gassert.
of these baby dinosaur robots
dinossauros robôs bebês
for about an hour.
durante cerca de uma hora.
a hammer and a hatchet
e uma machadinha
and kill the robots.
e matarem os robôs.
a little more dramatic
mais dramática do que esperávamos,
would even so much as strike
bateria nos dinossauros robôs bebês.
and at some point, we said,
e, a certa altura, dissemos:
se destruírem o da outra equipe".
if you destroy another team's robot."
eles não conseguiram.
They couldn't do it.
a machadinha em um deles".
a hatchet to one of them."
and he took the hatchet,
as he brought the hatchet down
no pescoço do robô.
half-serious moment of silence in the room
e meio sério de silêncio na sala,
interesting experience.
study, obviously,
que fiz mais tarde no MIT
later research that I did at MIT
and smash these HEXBUGs
e esmagavam os HEXBUGs,
lifelike way, like insects.
muito realista, como insetos.
that people are drawn to,
que atraísse as pessoas,
was that high-empathy people
com mais empatia
that there may be a connection
que pode haver uma relação
em relação aos robôs.
of human-robot interaction
da interação entre humanos e robôs
people's empathy?"
a empatia dos humanos?"
from kicking a robotic dog,
de chutar um cão robô,
more likely to kick a real dog?
que a criança chute um cão de verdade?
but it's on a completely new level
violentos, mas a um nível totalmente novo
that we respond more intensely to
ao qual reagimos mais intensamente
that are designed to mimic life,
projetados para imitar a vida,
for violent behavior
de comportamentos violentos
para nossos músculos da crueldade?
the potential to impact human behavior,
impacto no comportamento humano,
to impact social norms,
around what we can and can't do
ou não fazer com determinados robôs,
sobre crueldade animal.
não tenham sentimento,
might matter for us.
pode ser importante para nós.
we end up changing our rules,
ou não nossas regras,
come to a new understanding of ourselves.
uma nova compreensão de nós mesmos.
over the past 10 years
nos últimos dez anos
sobre tecnologia.
nos relacionamos com os outros.
é gentil com um Roomba,
a robot on the battlefield,
um robô no campo de batalha,
to harm a robotic baby dinosaur,
a ferir um dinossauro robô bebê,
and gears and algorithms.
engrenagens e algoritmos.
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Kate Darling - Robot ethicistKate Darling investigates the relationship between humans and robots -- now, and in the future.
Why you should listen
Robots are taking increasingly bigger roles in life and business -- moving well beyond manufacturing and into transportation, education, medicine, care for the elderly, our offices and our homes. But ethics and law haven't caught up. Kate Darling, a pioneer in these fields, is helping quicken the pace.
A leading expert in robot ethics, Darling is a researcher at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) Media Lab where she investigates social robotics and conducts experimental studies on human-robot interaction. Darling explores the emotional connection between people and life-like inventions, seeking to influence technology design and policy direction. Her writing and research anticipate difficult questions that lawmakers, engineers and the wider public must address as human-robot relationships evolve in the coming decades.
While her background is in intellectual property and law and economics, Darling's passion for technology and robots led her to interdisciplinary fields. She's a former Fellow and current Affiliate at the Harvard Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society and a former fellow at the Yale Information Society Project, and she's an affiliate at the Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies.
Her work has been featured in Vogue, The New Yorker, The Guardian, BBC, NPR, PBS, The Boston Globe, Forbes, CBC, WIRED, Boston Magazine, The Atlantic, Slate, Die Zeit, The Japan Times and more. She is a contributing writer to Robohub and IEEE Spectrum and speaks and holds workshops covering some of the more interesting developments in the world of robotics, and where we might find ourselves in the future.
Darling graduated from law school with honors and holds a doctorate of sciences from the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH Zurich) and an honorary doctorate of sciences from Middlebury College. In 2017, the American Bar Association honored her legal work with the Mark T. Banner award in Intellectual Property. She is the caretaker for several domestic robots, including her Pleos Yochai, Peter, and Mr. Spaghetti. She tweets as @grok_ about eating cheerios for dinner.
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