ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Joe Lassiter - Energy scholar
Joe Lassiter focuses on one of the world’s most pressing problems: developing clean, secure and carbon-neutral supplies of reliable, low-cost energy all around the world.

Why you should listen

As the Senator John Heinz Professor of Management Practice in Environmental Management, Retired and current Senior Fellow at Harvard Business School, Joe Lassiter studies how high-potential ventures attacking the energy problem are being financed and how their innovations are being brought to market in different parts of the world. In the MBA and executive education programs, he teaches about the lessons learned from these ventures as well as potential improvements in business practices, regulation and government policy. Lassiter also supports University-wide efforts as a faculty fellow of the Harvard Environmental Economics Program and a faculty associate of the Harvard University Center for the Environment.

Following a 20-year career leading technology businesses, Lassiter joined HBS in 1996. He has taught courses in entrepreneurial finance, entrepreneurial marketing and innovation in business, energy & environment. For Harvard University, he taught courses in innovation & entrepreneurship to undergraduates, graduate students and post-doctoral fellows across the University and its affiliated hospitals. From its founding in 2010 until 2015, Lassuter was Faculty Chair of the University-wide Harvard Innovation Lab (Harvard i-lab).

Lassiter received his BS, MS, and PhD from MIT and was awarded National Science, Adams and McDermott Fellowships. He was elected to Sigma Xi.

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- Energy scholar
Joe Lassiter focuses on one of the world’s most pressing problems: developing clean, secure and carbon-neutral supplies of reliable, low-cost energy all around the world. Full bio

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It's easy简单 to forget忘记 that last night,
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我们很难意识到昨天晚上
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one billion十亿 people went to sleep睡觉
without access访问 to electricity电力.
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十亿人在没有电的条件下进入梦乡
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One billion十亿 people.
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十亿人
25亿人没有清洁的能源用来做饭
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Two and a half billion十亿 people
did not have access访问 to clean清洁 cooking烹饪 fuels燃料
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or clean清洁 heating加热 fuels燃料.
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以及供暖
00:30
Those are the problems问题
in the developing发展 world世界.
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这些都是发展中国家存在的问题
00:32
And it's easy简单 for us not to be empathetic感情移入的
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同时我们也容易忽视
00:35
with those people
who seem似乎 so distanced疏远 from us.
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距离我们十分遥远的人们所经历的痛苦
00:38
But even in our own拥有 world世界,
the developed发达 world世界,
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但是即使是在我们发达国家
00:41
we see the tension张力 of stagnant economies经济
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经济发展的停滞不前
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impacting影响 the lives生活 of people around us.
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也会对我们的生活产生影响
00:48
We see it in whole整个 pieces of the economy经济,
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在整个经济发展的进程中
00:51
where the people involved参与
have lost丢失 hope希望 about the future未来
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许多时候人们会失去对未来的希望
00:55
and despair绝望 about the present当下.
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甚至对现在感到绝望
00:57
We see that in the BrexitBrexit vote投票.
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我们可以在英国脱欧公投中看到
00:59
We see that in the Sanders桑德斯/Trump王牌
campaigns活动 in my own拥有 country国家.
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在桑德斯和特朗普的辩论中看到
01:03
But even in countries国家 as recently最近
turning车削 the corner
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即使是在最近正在转型
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towards being存在 in the developed发达 world世界,
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即将成为发达国家的
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in China中国,
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中国
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we see the difficulty困难
that President主席 Xi has
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习主席也处于同样的困境中
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as he begins开始 to un-employ失业 so many许多 people
in his coal煤炭 and mining矿业 industries行业
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开始解雇煤矿行业的大量工人
01:20
who see no future未来 for themselves他们自己.
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他们知道自己的未来希望渺茫
01:23
As we as a society社会
figure数字 out how to manage管理
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整个社会都在设法解决
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the problems问题 of the developed发达 world世界
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发达国家所存在的问题
01:28
and the problems问题 of the developing发展 world世界,
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以及发展中国家存在的问题
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we have to look at how we move移动 forward前锋
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我们必须探寻一条出路
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and manage管理 the environmental环境的 impact碰撞
of those decisions决定.
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并且控制随之而来的环境上的影响
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We've我们已经 been working加工 on this problem问题
for 25 years年份, since以来 Rio里约热内卢,
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我们已经开始处理这个问题25年了
从里约
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the Kyoto京都 Protocols协议.
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到京都议定
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Our most recent最近 move移动 is the Paris巴黎 treaty条约,
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我们最近的一次倡导是巴黎协定
01:46
and the resulting造成 climate气候 agreements协议
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各国之间就气候问题
01:49
that are being存在 ratified批准
by nations国家 around the world世界.
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达成了一致
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I think we can be very hopeful有希望
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我认为我们应该充满希望
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that those agreements协议,
which哪一个 are bottom-up自下而上 agreements协议,
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因为那些协定从实际出发
01:57
where nations国家 have said
what they think they can do,
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参与的国家指明了自己所能做的
02:00
are genuine真正 and forthcoming即将到来
for the vast广大 majority多数 of the parties派对.
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对于大多数国家来说
都是真诚而切实的
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The unfortunate不幸的 thing
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不幸的是
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is that now, as we look
at the independent独立 analyses分析
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当我们看那些条约中
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of what those climate气候 treaties条约
are liable容易 to yield产量,
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由独立研究机构提到的责任时
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the magnitude大小 of the problem问题
before us becomes clear明确.
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问题的严重性就变得明确了
02:18
This is the United联合的 States状态
Energy能源 Information信息 Agency's机构的 assessment评定
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美国能源信息局的调查显示出
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of what will happen发生 if the countries国家
implement实行 the climate气候 commitments承诺
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如果各国遵守诺言
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that they've他们已经 made制作 in Paris巴黎
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那么实施条约中规定的结果如此
02:30
between之间 now and 2040.
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范围是从现在到2040年
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It shows节目 basically基本上 COCO2 emissions排放
around the world世界
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它显示了未来30年间
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over the next下一个 30 years年份.
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全球二氧化碳的排放量
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There are three things that you need
to look at and appreciate欣赏.
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值得注意的有三点
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One, COCO2 emissions排放 are expected预期
to continue继续 to grow增长
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首先,在未来的三十年内
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for the next下一个 30 years年份.
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二氧化碳的排放量将会不断增长
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In order订购 to control控制 climate气候,
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为了控制气候变暖
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COCO2 emissions排放 have to literally按照字面 go to zero
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二氧化碳的排放量必须被消除
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because it's the cumulative累积的 emissions排放
that drive驾驶 heating加热 on the planet行星.
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因为累积起来的二氧化碳
会不断加剧全球变暖
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This should tell you that we are losing失去
the race种族 to fossil化石 fuels燃料.
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这表明我们正失去与化石燃料的竞争
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The second第二 thing you should notice注意
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值得注意的第二点是
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is that the bulk of the growth发展
comes from the developing发展 countries国家,
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大部分碳排放的增长
来自于发展中国家
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from China中国, from India印度,
from the rest休息 of the world世界,
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比如中国、印度
以及世界的其他地区
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which哪一个 includes包括 South Africa非洲
and Indonesia印度尼西亚 and Brazil巴西,
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包括南非、印度尼西亚和巴西
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as most of these countries国家
move移动 their people
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大多数的发展中国家试图改变
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into the lower降低 range范围 of lifestyles生活方式
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人民的生活方式来减少CO2 排放量
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that we literally按照字面 take for granted理所当然
in the developed发达 world世界.
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我们这些发达国家的人
可能视之为理所当然
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The final最后 thing that you should notice注意
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最后一点是
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is that each year,
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每年
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about 10 gigatons亿吨 of carbon are getting得到
added添加 to the planet's地球上的 atmosphere大气层,
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大约有一百亿吨的碳
被排放到大气中
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and then diffusing扩散 into the ocean海洋
and into the land土地.
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然后进入到海洋和土地中
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That's on top最佳 of the 550 gigatons亿吨
that are in place地点 today今天.
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到目前为止
已经有550千兆吨的碳被这样吸收
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At the end结束 of 30 years年份,
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在30年后
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we will have put 850 gigatons亿吨
of carbon into the air空气,
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我们将向空气中排放850千兆吨的碳
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and that probably大概 goes a long way
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也许我们距离
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towards locking锁定 in a 2-4 degree C increase增加
in global全球 mean surface表面 temperatures温度,
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全球平均气温上升2到4度
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locking锁定 in ocean海洋 acidification酸化
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海水酸化
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and locking锁定 in sea level水平 rise上升.
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海平面上升还有很远
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Now, this is a projection投影 made制作 by men男人
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这个预测是由人类自己
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by the actions行动 of society社会,
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和整个社会做出的
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and it's ours我们的 to change更改, not to accept接受.
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我们应该改变,而不是接受
04:25
But the magnitude大小 of the problem问题
is something we need to appreciate欣赏.
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但这个问题需要我们充分的理解
04:30
Different不同 nations国家 make
different不同 energy能源 choices选择.
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不同的国家在能源上
会做出不同的选择
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It's a function功能
of their natural自然 resources资源.
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这与各国的自然资源储量
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It's a function功能 of their climate气候.
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气候状况
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It's a function功能 of the development发展 path路径
that they've他们已经 followed其次 as a society社会.
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社会发展的道路
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It's a function功能 of where
on the surface表面 of the planet行星 they are.
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在全球的地理位置
都有着密切联系
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Are they where it's dark黑暗
a lot of the time,
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他们是处于长期黑夜的地区
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or are they at the mid-latitudes中纬度?
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或是中纬度地区
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Many许多, many许多, many许多 things
go into the choices选择 of countries国家,
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很多很多的因素
都会影响一个国家所作出的决定
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and they each make a different不同 choice选择.
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每一个国家就会有不同的选择
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The overwhelming压倒 thing
that we need to appreciate欣赏
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我们还需要理解
一个十分重要的话题
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is the choice选择 that China中国 has made制作.
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就是中国所作出的选择
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China中国 has made制作 the choice选择,
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中国已经决定
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and will make the choice选择, to run on coal煤炭.
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而且会坚持依靠煤炭作为能源
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The United联合的 States状态 has an alternative替代.
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美国有另一种选择
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It can run on natural自然 gas加油站
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可以依靠天然气作为能源
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as a result结果 of the inventions发明
of fracking压裂 and shale页岩 gas加油站,
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由于水力压裂的发明
和页岩气的储备
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which哪一个 we have here.
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也就是目前所使用的方法
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They provide提供 an alternative替代.
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它们提供了一种新的可能
05:22
The OECD经合组织 Europe欧洲 has a choice选择.
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欧盟也有自己的选择
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It has renewables可再生能源 that it can afford给予
to deploy部署 in Germany德国
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他们可以承担得起
从德国运输的可再生能源
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because it's rich丰富 enough足够
to afford给予 to do it.
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这是欧盟经济发展的结果
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The French法国 and the British英国的
show显示 interest利益 in nuclear power功率.
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法国和英国对核能源产生兴趣
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Eastern Europe欧洲, still very heavily严重
committed提交 to natural自然 gas加油站 and to coal煤炭,
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东欧国家依旧坚持
以天然气和煤炭作为能源
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and with natural自然 gas加油站
that comes from Russia俄国,
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使用从俄罗斯输送来的天然气
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with all of its entanglements纠葛.
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这其中有着十分复杂的联系
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China中国 has many许多 fewer choices选择
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中国的选择就少得多
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and a much harder更难 row to hoe.
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而且举步维艰
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If you look at China中国, and you ask yourself你自己
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试想中国
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why has coal煤炭 been important重要 to it,
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为什么煤炭对中国如此重要呢?
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you have to remember记得 what China's中国的 doneDONE.
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你必须明白中国做了什么
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China中国 brought people to power功率,
not power功率 to people.
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中国使人们趋向财富
而不是授予人们权利
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It didn't do rural乡村 electrification起电.
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中国没有实行农村电气化
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It urbanized城市化.
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而是采用了城市化
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It urbanized城市化 by taking服用 low-cost低成本 labor劳动
and low-cost低成本 energy能源,
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通过更多廉价的劳动力和能源
来实现城市化
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creating创建 export出口 industries行业
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带动出口产业的发展
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that could fund基金 a tremendous巨大
amount of growth发展.
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这些使得中国经济飞速发展
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If we look at China's中国的 path路径,
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如果我们回顾中国的发展历程
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all of us know that prosperity繁荣 in China中国
has dramatically显着 increased增加.
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我们都知道中国的经济水平
已经有了大幅度的提升
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In 1980, 80 percent百分 of China's中国的 population人口
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1980年,中国80%的人口
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lived生活 below下面 the extreme极端 poverty贫穷 level水平,
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处于极度贫困的水平之下
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below下面 the level水平 of having
$1.90 per person per day.
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低于每人每天1.9美元的水平
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By the year 2000, only 20 percent百分
of China's中国的 population人口
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到了2000年, 中国只有20%的人口
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lived生活 below下面 the extreme极端 poverty贫穷 level水平 --
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仍处于极度贫困的水平以下
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a remarkable卓越 feat功绩,
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实在是一大壮举
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admittedly固然, with some costs成本
in civil国内 liberties自由
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不可否认,其中有失去公民自由的代价
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that would be tough强硬 to accept接受
in the Western西 world世界.
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这也是许多西方国家难以接受的
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But the impact碰撞 of all that wealth财富
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但是收入增长
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allowed允许 people to get
massively大规模 better nutrition营养.
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改善了人民的健康状况
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It allowed允许 water pipes管道 to be placed放置.
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修建了自来水管
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It allowed允许 sewage污水 pipes管道 to be placed放置,
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修建了下水管道
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dramatic戏剧性 decrease减少 in diarrheal腹泻 diseases疾病,
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大大降低了痢疾的发病率
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at the cost成本 of some outdoor户外 air空气 pollution污染.
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这些进步以室外空气污染作为代价
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But in 1980, and even today今天,
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但在1980年,即使是现在
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the number one killer凶手 in China中国
is indoor室内 air空气 pollution污染,
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室内空气污染
才是中国健康的头号杀手
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because people do not have access访问
to clean清洁 cooking烹饪 and heating加热 fuels燃料.
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因为人们没有清洁的能源
可供做饭和取暖
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In fact事实, in 2040,
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事实上,直到2040年
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it's still estimated预计
that 200 million百万 people in China中国
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中国大约仍有2亿人
07:36
will not have access访问
to clean清洁 cooking烹饪 fuels燃料.
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无法使用清洁的能源做饭
07:41
They have a remarkable卓越 path路径 to follow跟随.
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他们的发展道路十分特殊
07:44
India印度 also needs需求 to meet遇到 the needs需求
of its own拥有 people,
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印度同样需要满足人民的需求
07:49
and it's going to do that by burning燃烧 coal煤炭.
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解决办法则是燃烧煤炭
07:52
When we look at the EIA'sEIA的 projections预测
of coal煤炭 burning燃烧 in India印度,
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当我们看到能源信息局
对印度煤炭燃烧的预测时
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India印度 will supply供应 nearly几乎 four times
as much of its energy能源 from coal煤炭
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印度依靠煤炭产生的能量
08:03
as it will from renewables可再生能源.
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将会是可再生能源的四倍
08:06
It's not because they don't know
the alternatives备择方案;
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这并不是由于
他们不知道有其他选择
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it's because rich丰富 countries国家
can do what they choose选择,
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而是因为只有富裕的国家
才能随意做出选择
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poor较差的 countries国家 do what they must必须.
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而贫困的国家只能尽其所能
08:18
So what can we do to stop
coal's煤炭的 emissions排放 in time?
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那么我们怎样才能
及时解决碳排放问题呢?
08:22
What can we do that changes变化
this forecast预测 that's in front面前 of us?
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对于这样的预测
我们又有怎样的对策呢?
08:27
Because it's a forecast预测 that we can change更改
if we have the will to do it.
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因为只要我们有足够的意志
我们就能改变这种状况
08:33
First of all, we have to think
about the magnitude大小 of the problem问题.
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首先 我们需要考虑问题的严重性
08:36
Between之间 now and 2040,
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从现在到2040年
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800 to 1,600 new coal煤炭 plants植物
are going to be built内置 around the world世界.
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全球将会建造800到1600个煤电厂
08:46
This week, between之间 one and three
one-gigawatt一个千兆瓦 coal煤炭 plants植物
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这个星期,世界范围内将会有
08:50
are being存在 turned转身 on around the world世界.
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一到三个一千兆瓦的煤电厂投入使用
08:53
That's happening事件 regardless而不管
of what we want,
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无论我们愿不愿意
这些都会发生
08:57
because the people
that rule规则 their countries国家,
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因为那些管理自己国家的人
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assessing评估 the interests利益 of their citizens公民,
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通过评估公民的意愿
09:02
have decided决定 it's in the interest利益
of their citizens公民 to do that.
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已经决定了
这就是符合公民意愿的做法
09:07
And that's going to happen发生
unless除非 they have a better alternative替代.
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他们将不会做出改变
除非有更好的选择
09:11
And every一切 100 of those plants植物 will use up
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这其中每100个煤电厂
09:15
between之间 one percent百分 and three percent百分
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都会用掉1-3%的
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of the Earth's地球 climate气候 budget预算.
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对未来气候做出的预算
09:21
So every一切 day that you go home
thinking思维 that you should do something
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所以每天当你回家
09:24
about global全球 warming变暖,
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想着自己应该为全球变暖
做些什么的时候
09:26
at the end结束 of that week, remember记得:
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过了一周,记住:
09:28
somebody fired解雇 up a coal煤炭 plant
that's going to run for 50 years年份
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一座可以使用五十年的
煤电厂已经被建造
09:32
and take away your ability能力 to change更改 it.
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并且夺走了
你想要改善全球气候的能力
09:37
What we've我们已经 forgotten忘记了 is something
that Vinod维诺德 Khosla科斯拉 used to talk about,
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我们忘记了维诺德·柯斯拉
09:41
a man of Indian印度人 ethnicity种族
but an American美国 venture冒险 capitalist资本家.
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一位印度裔美国风险投资家所说的
09:45
And he said, back in the early 2000s,
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回溯到二十一世纪早期
09:48
that if you needed需要 to get
China中国 and India印度 off of fossil化石 fuels燃料,
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如果你想让中国和印度摆脱化石燃料
09:52
you had to create创建 a technology技术
that passed通过 the "Chindia中印 test测试,"
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你必须创造出一项科技
能够通过“中印测试”
09:56
"Chindia中印" being存在 the appending附加
of the two words.
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“中印”是中国和印度的合称
09:59
It had to be first of all viable可行,
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首先 它必须是可行的
10:02
meaning含义 that technically技术上, they could
implement实行 it in their country国家,
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严格意义上来说
这意味着它在两国是可实施的
10:05
and that it would be accepted公认
by the people in the country国家.
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并且能被两国人民所接受
10:10
Two, it had to be a technology技术
that was scalable可扩展性,
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其次 它必须是可扩展的
10:16
that it could deliver交付 the same相同 benefits好处
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也就是和化石燃料相比
10:19
on the same相同 timetable时间表 as fossil化石 fuels燃料,
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在同一时间内能产生同等收益
10:23
so that they can enjoy请享用 the kind of life,
again, that we take for granted理所当然.
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他们就能以此享受
我们认为是理所当然的生活
10:27
And third第三, it had to be cost-effective经济有效
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再次 它必须是合算的
10:30
without subsidy补贴 or without mandate要求.
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不需要任何补助或是命令
10:33
It had to stand on its own拥有 two feet;
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它必须能独立自主地存在
10:36
it could not be maintained保持
for that many许多 people
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不能受限于一些人或国家
10:40
if in fact事实, those countries国家
had to go begging乞讨
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比如那些国家必须通过乞求
10:43
or had some foreign国外 country国家 say,
"I won't惯于 trade贸易 with you,"
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或是其他的国家威胁与之断交
10:47
in order订购 to get
the technology技术 shift转移 to occur发生.
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来获得技术的转让
10:52
If you look at the Chindia中印 test测试,
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此时再回顾“中印测试”
10:53
we simply只是 have not come up
with alternatives备择方案 that meet遇到 that test测试.
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我们还没有任何办法能通过它
10:58
That's what the EIAEIA forecast预测 tells告诉 us.
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这就是能源信息局预测的真正含义
11:02
China's中国的 building建造 800 gigawatts吉瓦 of coal煤炭,
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中国正在建造800千兆瓦的煤电站
11:06
400 gigawatts吉瓦 of hydro水电,
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400千兆瓦的水电站
11:09
about 200 gigawatts吉瓦 of nuclear,
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还有大约200千兆瓦的核电站
11:12
and on an energy-equivalent能量当量 basis基础,
adjusting调整 for intermittency间歇,
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在调整期间
并且在能源等效的基础上
11:16
about 100 gigawatts吉瓦 of renewables可再生能源.
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大约100千兆瓦的可再生能源电站
11:19
800 gigawatts吉瓦 of coal煤炭.
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800千兆瓦的煤电站
11:21
They're doing that, knowing会心 the costs成本
better than any other country国家,
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他们这么做的同时
比其他任何一个国家都清楚自己的代价
11:25
knowing会心 the need better
than any other country国家.
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也比其他任何一个国家
都清楚自己的需求
11:28
But that's what they're aiming瞄准 for in 2040
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但这就是他们对2040年定下的目标
11:31
unless除非 we give them a better choice选择.
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除非我们给予他们更好的选择
11:34
To give them a better choice选择,
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为了给出这样的选择
11:35
it's going to have to meet遇到
the Chindia中印 test测试.
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它必须通过“中印测试”
11:38
If you look at all the alternatives备择方案
that are out there,
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如果你观察这里的每一种可能性
11:40
there are really two
that come near to meeting会议 it.
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有两项可能通过测试
11:43
First is this area of new nuclear
that I'll talk about in just a second第二.
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第一个是我即将要说的核能源
11:48
It's a new generation of nuclear plants植物
that are on the drawing画画 boards
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它来自新一代的核电站
11:51
around the world世界,
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也是全球规划中的一部分
11:52
and the people who are
developing发展 these say
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核电站的研究者称
11:55
we can get them
in position位置 to demo演示 by 2025
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在2025年以前
这些核电站将会开始试用
11:59
and to scale规模 by 2030,
if you will just let us.
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如果条件允许
2030年将会大批量运行
12:03
The second第二 alternative替代
that could be there in time
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第二种可能
12:06
is utility-scale公用事业规模 solar太阳能
backed已备份 up with natural自然 gas加油站,
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公用事业规模太阳能
与天然气相结合
12:10
which哪一个 we can use today今天,
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也就是我们目前正在使用的
12:12
versus the batteries电池
which哪一个 are still under development发展.
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相对于正在研发的太阳能电池
12:16
So what's holding保持 new nuclear back?
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又是什么延缓了
核能源的开发进度呢?
12:19
Outdated过时的 regulations法规
and yesterday's昨天的 mindsets心态.
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过时的管理和陈腐的观念
12:23
We have not used our latest最新
scientific科学 thinking思维 on radiological放射性 health健康
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我们没有用最新的放射学思想
12:28
to think how we communicate通信
with the public上市
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与公众进行交流
12:30
and govern治理 the testing测试
of new nuclear reactors反应堆.
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并管理新的核反应堆实验
12:33
We have new scientific科学 knowledge知识
that we need to use
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我们有需要用到的新科学知识
12:37
in order订购 to improve提高 the way
we regulate调节 nuclear industry行业.
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来帮助我们治理好核工业
12:42
The second第二 thing is we've我们已经 got a mindset心态
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第二点是我们还在用旧的观念
12:45
that it takes 25 years年份
and 2 to 5 billion十亿 dollars美元
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认为建造一座核电站需要25年
12:48
to develop发展 a nuclear power功率 plant.
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以及20至50亿美元
12:49
That comes from the historical历史的,
military军事 mindset心态
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这些都是老一套的东西
12:54
of the places地方 nuclear power功率 came来了 from.
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来自核能源的军事发源地
12:57
These new nuclear ventures企业 are saying
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这些新的核电企业称
12:59
that they can deliver交付 power功率
for 5 cents a kilowatt千瓦 hour小时;
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他们能以每千瓦时5美分
的价格输送电力
13:03
they can deliver交付 it
for 100 gigawatts吉瓦 a year;
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每年生产100千兆瓦的电力
13:06
they can demo演示 it by 2025;
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2025年开始试用
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and they can deliver交付 it in scale规模 by 2030,
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2030年开始大规模运行
13:12
if only we give them a chance机会.
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只要我们给他们一个机会
13:16
Right now, we're basically基本上
waiting等候 for a miracle奇迹.
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目前我们基本是在等待一个奇迹
13:19
What we need is a choice选择.
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我们需要作出选择
13:21
If they can't make it safe安全,
if they can't make it cheap低廉,
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如果他们不能做到安全和廉价
13:24
it should not be deployed部署.
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核电站就不应该被建成
13:26
But what I want you to do
is not carry携带 an idea理念 forward前锋,
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我想让你做的
不是只有这个想法
13:30
but write your leaders领导者,
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而是向你的领导提议
13:32
write the head of the NGOs非政府组织 you support支持,
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向你所支持的非政府组织写信
13:34
and tell them to give you the choice选择,
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让他们给你这个选择
13:38
not the past过去.
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而不是停留在过去
13:39
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢
13:40
(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
Translated by Kai Ma
Reviewed by Jing Peng

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Joe Lassiter - Energy scholar
Joe Lassiter focuses on one of the world’s most pressing problems: developing clean, secure and carbon-neutral supplies of reliable, low-cost energy all around the world.

Why you should listen

As the Senator John Heinz Professor of Management Practice in Environmental Management, Retired and current Senior Fellow at Harvard Business School, Joe Lassiter studies how high-potential ventures attacking the energy problem are being financed and how their innovations are being brought to market in different parts of the world. In the MBA and executive education programs, he teaches about the lessons learned from these ventures as well as potential improvements in business practices, regulation and government policy. Lassiter also supports University-wide efforts as a faculty fellow of the Harvard Environmental Economics Program and a faculty associate of the Harvard University Center for the Environment.

Following a 20-year career leading technology businesses, Lassiter joined HBS in 1996. He has taught courses in entrepreneurial finance, entrepreneurial marketing and innovation in business, energy & environment. For Harvard University, he taught courses in innovation & entrepreneurship to undergraduates, graduate students and post-doctoral fellows across the University and its affiliated hospitals. From its founding in 2010 until 2015, Lassuter was Faculty Chair of the University-wide Harvard Innovation Lab (Harvard i-lab).

Lassiter received his BS, MS, and PhD from MIT and was awarded National Science, Adams and McDermott Fellowships. He was elected to Sigma Xi.

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