Leah Chase and Pat Mitchell: An interview with the Queen of Creole Cuisine
लेह चेस: TEDWomen 2017 में लिया चेज़ और पैट मिचेल, क्रिओल क्यूज़ीन की रानी से मुलाकात
Leah Chase has spent the last seven decades serving her signature gumbo and hospitality to everyone from Martin Luther King Jr. to James Baldwin to Barack Obama. Full bioPat Mitchell - Curator, connector, convener and advocate for women's leadership
Pat Mitchell is a lifelong advocate for women and girls, known for her work as a journalist, producer, television executive and curator. Full bio
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like I'm looking at.
नहीं देखी जैसी आज देख रही हूँ।
because you gave me permission,
क्योंकि आपने आज्ञा दी थी,
about to make you a year older.
एक साल बड़ी बना रही हूँ।
and parts start wearing out.
तो शरीर घिसने लगता है।
so I've got my mouth going.
इसलिए मेरा मुँह चलता रहता है।
the first time we were there,
जब हम पहली बार वहाँ थे,
who work with us at TED,
कुछ युवतियों को
and you had already cooked lunch
जब आप कई सौ लोगों का खाना बना चुकी थी
as you do every day,
what you said to those young women.
जो आपने उन युवतियों को बताया था।
I talk to young women all the time,
मैं तो हर समय युवतियों से बात करती हूँ,
that had to really hustle and work hard,
जिन्हें मेहनत करना और काम करना पड़ता था,
the education you have today,
with all that education under their belt.
जिन्होंने इतनी शिक्षा हासिल की है।
to use those resources.
इस्तेमाल करवाने की कोशिश करवाई।
just look at my mother,
मेरी माँ को देखो,
we were all still living,
हम सभी जी रही थीं,
but we're still here.
पर हम अभी भी यहाँ हैं।
and blah blah blah blah blah,
और वह सब हो जाती हैं,
that you're in today.
and positions that we have today.
देख पाऊँगी जहाँ वे आज हैं।
to integrate that Navy.
संगठित करना कितना मुश्किल था।
to really be integrated,
संगठन किया गया था,
एहसान के तौर पर,
Urban League back there,
as maybe one of his cabinet members.
शामिल करना चाहते थे।
is integrate that Navy."
आप नौसेना को संगठित करें।"
into the space program."
मैं बहुत बूढ़ी हूँ।"
अपनी युवास्था से आगे निकल चुके होते हैं।
up in the sky at 60-something years old.
आसमान में उड़े।
coming in the kitchen.
to see me, in the kitchen.
I meet all kinds of people.
मुझे हर तरह के लोग मिलते हैं।
that really uplifts me,
जिससे बहुत उत्साह मिलता है,
it is good for me.
उससे मुझे फायदा होता है।
flag-waving women.
औरतों में से नहीं हूँ।
out there waving.
any of you to do that.
कि आपमें से कोई ऐसा करे।
you have to first look like a girl."
सबसे पहले लड़की जैसी दिखोे।"
think like a man.
बस उसकी तरह सोचो।
कि औरतों को क्या करना चाहिए।
controlled the behavior of men.
व्यवहार नियंत्रित करती हैं।
and I tell you all the time.
और मैं आपको हर समय कहती हूँ।
education under his belt as you have,
आपके जितना पढ़ा-लिखा ना हो,
to live with a mouse.
and do what he has to do.
और वह सब करे जो उसे करना है।
a minute to take that in.
इसे हजम करने के लिए।
speak before I came out --
जब मैंने इस युवती को सुना...
we were married 70 years --
मैंने उन्हें खो दिया...
just been like her,
all the time, and he said,
you've got to keep moving,
आपको आगे बढ़ते रहना चाहिए,
in the country, small town,
had to haul the water,
पानी भी लाना पड़ता था,
all that kind of stuff.
that we act nice,
कि हम अच्छे बनें,
to be any different than you are.
कि आप जैसी हैं वैसी रहें।
to have a conversation
इतना अच्छा लगता है
to remember, always,
eat together in this city.
एक साथ खाना नहीं खा सकते थे।
Tell me about that.
मुझे उस बारे में बताएँ।
and he would go out --
और वे बाहर जाते...
and all the places,
we are very sophisticated --
हम बहुत परिष्कृत हैं...
to get his clients and all that,
ग्राहक इकट्ठे नहीं कर सकते थे,
this little sandwich shop,
यह छोटी सैंडविच दुकान शुरू की,
for a long a time.
लंबे समय से बहुत खराब थी।
from a brewery.
६०० डॉलर उधार लिए।
a business today with 600 dollars
६०० डॉलर से व्यापार शुरू करना
what she could do.
कि वह क्या कुछ कर सकती थीं।
a bankrupt sister.
the restaurant open, though,
when people were protesting
जब लोग विरोध कर रहे थे
that you and your husband made.
काफ़ी विवादास्पद कदम उठाया।
know how we did it,
हमने वह कैसे किया,
was a kind, kind person,
बहुत ही दयालु इन्सान थीं,
on the police force at that time.
कोई अफ़्रीकी-अमरीकी नहीं थे।
a little sandwich."
छोटा सैंडविच बनाने वाली हूँ।"
right in that restaurant,
the restaurant a safe haven
कि कैसे लोग आपके रेस्तराँ को
जहाँ वे इकट्ठे हो सकते थे,
on civil rights,
या मानवीय अधिकारों
you got inside those doors,
आप उन दरवाज़ों के अंदर आ गए,
all their meetings.
serve them a bowl of gumbo
the course of America
और फ़्राइड चिकन से
and some fried chicken.
and some fried chicken,
and we'd do what we have to do.
वह करें जो हमें करना हो।
to invite to lunch?
हम आपको सूची भेजें?
or what you are -- come together.
या जो भी हो... एक साथ तो बैठो।
to a good thing and meet.
और हम एक अच्छी बात पर सहमत हो जाते।
in that restaurant.
our children to go to jail.
हमारे बच्चे जेल जाएँ।
were willing to go to jail
and A.P. Tureaud and all those people
to get in the door, waiting for them.
उनका इंतज़ार कर रहे होते।
you're talking about?
But I loved Thurgood.
पर मुझे थर्गुड पसंद था।
without offending anybody.
यह करना चाहते थे।
Ready or not, we're going to do this."
तैयार हैं या नहीं, हम यह करेंगे।"
righteous children.
नेक बच्चे थे।
LC: And they brought the change.
लिया: और वे बदलाव लाए।
hard things to make changes.
मुश्किल काम करने पड़ते हैं।
so many of those changes.
between the past and now,
young people today.
आजकल के नौजवानों को बतानी है।
for what your grandfather did.
ज़िम्मेदार नहीं ठहरा सकती।
उस समय हमारे साथ क्या किया।
we don't like that."
हमें वह अच्छा नहीं लगता।"
a part of the system.
प्रणाली का हिस्सा नहीं बन सकते थे।
in the African-American community.
एक अलग सा एहसास था।
Moon Landrieu.
he took great, great risks
उन्होंने बहुत जोखिम उठाए
for a long time,
उसका अंजाम भुगतना पड़ा,
was going to help the city.
शहर की मदद होगी।
I tell Moon all the time,
मैं हमेशा मून को कहती हूँ
and better than you.
P.T. Beauregard come down,
गिराए जाते देखा,
what this was all about.
कि यह सब वास्तव में क्या था।
it was a political move.
यह एक राजनीतिक चाल थी।
the next morning,
your pants, and let's go to work,
visibility to the city.
move on it, uplift yourself,
उसपर आगे बढ़ो, खुद को ऊपर उठाओ,
the formula for resilience. Right?
मंत्र बताया। हैं ना?
we could find anywhere of resilience,
पलटाव की सबसे उत्तम मिसाल हैं,
and physical strength,
और शारीरिक ताकत होती है,
was George Patton.
hanging in my dining room
जॉर्ज पैटन की तस्वीर है
to reach those goals.
I'm going to ride on your coattails,
मैं उसका फायदा तो उठाऊँगी,
the coattails I've ridden upon.
मैंने कितनों का फायदा उठाया।
तुम मेरी मदद करोगे।
in this city, in all cities --
जो काम करना है...
माताएँ बनना शुरू करना है।
maybe you won't have the pretty hair.
शायद आपके बाल सुंदर नहीं होंगे।
ध्यान देना होगा
what it's all about.
a good woman to do that.
a good woman to do that.
what you have to do
तो आप कर सकती हैं।
you do every day in this community.
जो आप हर रोज़ इस समुदाय में करती हैं।
what this does for me.
इससे मुझे क्यया मिलता है।
and come together --
from all over the world.
why he came to this --
और मुझे नहीं पता वह यहाँ क्यों आया...
called "Chef's Charity."
जिसे "शेफ़ का दान" कहते हैं।
I was the only woman there,
another woman come up there, too.
जब तक कोई दूसरी महिला वहाँ ना आए।
to carry me up there
वे मुझे उठाकर ले जाएँगे
so I could step down.
ताकि मैं पीछे हट सकती हूँ।
in my kitchen.
अपने किचन में पाया।
to ask you one question."
something about food.
खाने के बारे में कुछ पूछेगा।
hang around you?"
आपके आस-पास क्यों मंडराते हैं?"
you may never come to my house.
शायद आप मेरे घर कभी ना आएँ।
for this special school,
पैसा इकट्ठा करना,
what I see in your dining room."
जो हो रहा है, मुझे समझ नहीं आता।"
to work to better your city,
काम करने के लिए ज़रूरी नहीं
and that's what we do in this city.
और हम इस शहर में यही करते हैं।
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Leah Chase - RestaurateurLeah Chase has spent the last seven decades serving her signature gumbo and hospitality to everyone from Martin Luther King Jr. to James Baldwin to Barack Obama.
Why you should listen
Leah Chase, named the "Queen of Creole Cuisine," has been the executive chef at Dooky Chase Restaurant in New Orleans since the 1940's. A longtime advocate for civil rights, her restaurant was a meeting place for the Freedom Riders and prominent civil rights activists, and one of the first places in the segregated south where blacks and whites could dine together. A lifelong resident of Louisiana, she is a patron of local artists, amassing a distinguished collection of African-American art displayed at Dooky Chase. The chef is widely considered to be a pioneer of soul food and an icon of American cooking.
Leah Chase | Speaker | TED.com
Pat Mitchell - Curator, connector, convener and advocate for women's leadership
Pat Mitchell is a lifelong advocate for women and girls, known for her work as a journalist, producer, television executive and curator.
Why you should listen
Pat Mitchell began her media career in print (at LOOK) and transitioned to television as opportunities opened up for women in the early 1970s. She was among the first women to anchor the news (WBZ-TV Boston) and host a morning talk show (Woman 74). She was the first woman to own, produce and host a national talk show, the Emmy-winning Woman to Woman, which also became the first television series to be placed in the archives of the Harvard-Radcliffe Schlesinger Library on the History of Women.
As the head of Ted Turner's documentary division, the programs she commissioned garnered 37 Emmys, five Peabodys and two Academy Award nominations. In 2000, she became the first woman President and CEO of the Public Broadcasting System. She led PBS through the transition to digital broadcasting, sustained government funding and added many new original series to the national schedule. As head of the Paley Center for Media in New York and Los Angeles, she guided an institution that leads discussion about the cultural, creative and social significance of media. Now as an independent consultant and curator, Mitchell advises foundations and corporations on issues of women’s empowerment and leadership development as well as media relations and governance. Mitchell is a trustee of the Skoll Foundation and Participant Media; chair of the Sundance Institute Board and Women's Media Center and a board member of the Acumen Fund.
In 2010, Mitchell launched and co-hosted the first TEDWomen and for the succeeding seven years, in partnership with the TED organization, Mitchell has curated and hosted TEDxWomen and TEDWomen conferences.
Pat Mitchell | Speaker | TED.com