Deb Willis and Hank Willis Thomas: A mother and son united by love and art
डेबरा विल्स, हैंक विल्स थौमस: प्यार और कला से एक साथ आये एक माँ और बेटा
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डैब का पुत्र
I See Myself In You,"
आप में मैं खुद को देखता हूँ,"
the symbiotic relationship
हमारे सहजीवी संबंध की
through our life and work.
विकसित किया है।
कि हम कहीं भी जायें
in my mother's footsteps
यह और कठिन हो रहा है।
it's a way of doing,
काम करने का तरीका,
and it's a way of seeing.
when they make photographs.
and finding love.
in my family and friends
as a way of telling a story about life,
जीवन की कहानी सुनाते
to become a family in North Philadelphia.
परिवार होना क्या था।
searching for pictures
ऐसे तस्वीरें ढूंढने में बिताया
about black love, black joy
को दर्शाती हों
the action of love overrules as a verb.
प्रेम उच्चतम क्रिया है
if the love of looking is genetic,
निहारनाआनुवंशिक है
since before I can even remember.
फोटोग्राफ निहारना पसंद है,
after my mother and her mother --
माँ व उनकी माँ के इलावा-
were my first love.
पहला प्यार है।
for calling me a "ham"
ऐसा ही होगा,
to my grandmother's house,
and who are they to me,
when that picture was taken?
before I was born?"
दुनिया काली और सफ़ेद थी?"
in black and white.
in North Philadelphia,
एक ब्यूटीशॉप में बडी हुई
looking at "Ebony Magazine,"
that were often not in the daily news,
जो अख़बार की ख़बरों में नहीं,
to be energetic for me,
एक जोशीली पारिवारिक एलबम चाहती थी,
in the Philadelphia Public Library
मेरे हाथ एक किताब लगी
by Roy DeCarava and Langston Hughes.
लेखक थे रॉय डीकारावा और लेंगस्टन ह्यूग्स।
as a seven-year-old,
में मुझेआकर्षित किया
as a seven-year-old,
that Roy DeCarava made
बनाए सुन्दर चित्रों को देखा
that I could tell a story about life.
सुनाने के तरीके देखने लगी
that basically changed my life.
told me that every photographer,
ने मुझे बताया कि सभी फोटोग्राफर,
trying to answer one question,
एक सवाल का जवाब देने की कोशिश कर रहे हैं
see how beautiful we are,
क्यों नहीं दिखाई देती,
see our community the way I do?"
कैसे मदद करूँ ?
में पढते समय
that I was taking up a good man's space.
मैं एक सक्षम पुरुष की जगह ले रही थी।
of becoming a photographer.
के सपने का गला घोटना चाहा।
in a class full of male photographers.
में मुझे शरमिंदा करने की कोशिश की।
and out of order as a woman,
और औरत होने के नाते अनुचित था,
that all you could and would do
और करोगी
could have had your seat in this class.
इस कक्षा में मेरी जगह होता
into that experience.
and I was determined to prove to him
मुझे उसको साबित करना था
for a seat in that class.
"Why did I need to prove it to him?"
"उसको साबित करने की क्या ज़रूरत थी?"
and I knew I needed to prove to myself
कि मुझे ख़ुद को साबित करना था
a difference in photography.
is going to stop me from making images.
फोटो खिचने से मुझे कोई नहीं रोक सकता।
I got pregnant.
मैं गर्भवती हुई
that he used against me
झाड कर गिरा दिया
and made photographs daily,
और रोज़ फोटो खिंचने लगी,
as I prepared for graduate school.
मैंने अपनी गर्भावस्था के फोटोग्राफ लिए।
that black photographers were missing
काले फोटोग्राफरों की तसवीरें नहीं थीं,
for ways to tell a story.
"A Choice of Weapons,"
"अ चोइस ऑफ वेपनस्" देखी,
और छवियाँ बनाने लगी,
that I made of my pregnant belly,
कॉनटौक्ट शीट हटाकर रख दी
to create a new piece,
नया टुकडा बनाने के लिए,
taking a place from a good man,"
"एक औरत एक सक्षम पुरूष से जगह ले रही है",
and reversed it and said,
तुम्हारे लिए"
would turn the kitchen into a darkroom.
रसोईघर को डार्क रूम में बदल देती।
just pictures that she took
of and by people that we didn't know,
जो न जाने किसने खींची और किस की थीं,
आप ने देखा?
में बड़ा हुआ
of men and women that we knew,
जिनको हम जानते थे
from what I learned in school,
to figure out what she was up to,
कि वे क्या कर रही थीं,
she published this book,
उन्होंने यह किताब छपवाई,
A Bio-Bibliography."
जीवनी चलचित्र"।
were making photographs.
before the end of slavery,
गुलामी ख़त्म होने के दो तीन दशक पूर्व,
of science and technology,
की जानकारी ले रहे थे,
just to make a single photograph.
गणित, भौतिकी व रसायन विज्ञान का उपयोग करना
to do that if not love?
ये करने के लिए।
"Black Photographers, 1940-1988,"
बनी, "ब्लेक फोटोग्राफर्स, 1940-1988,"
and another book, and another book,
और फिर एक और किताब,
and another book, and another book,
एक और किताब,फिर एक और किताब,
and another book, and another book,
एक और किताब, फिर एक और किताब,
and another book, and another.
फिर एक और किताब,एक और
संपादित और प्रकाशित कीं
on every continent,
क्यूरेट की हैं,
but all inspired by the curiosity
पर प्रेरित थीं
from North Philadelphia.
काली लड़की की जिज्ञासा से
black photographers had stories to tell,
केपास कहानियाँ थीं बताने को
like Augustus Washington,
in the early 1840s and '50s.
black photographers,
काले फोटोग्राफरों
about black life during slavery,
दिनों में काले लोगों के जीवन के बारे में
and telling stories about community.
उनके समाज की कहानियों के बारे में भी थीं।
needed to know this story.
अध्यापकों को यह कहानी जाननी ज़रूरी थी
my mother's first student.
कि मैं माँ का पहला विद्यार्थी था।
puppet strings --
कठपतली के धागे--
should make my own pictures
तस्वीरें चित्र बनानी चाहिए
and the now and then.
how I could use photography
फोटोग्राफी के माध्यम से
outside of the frame of the camera
के बाहर की घटनाएं
दृश्य पर असर डालता है।
of the actual image maker
वाले के हाथ में होती है
what's being cut out.
क्या दिख रहा है।
as a jumping-off point
शुरूआत करूँ
about how I could use historical images
कि किस तरह पुरातन चित्रों
के समान बताया जा सकता है
for human rights and equal rights
सम अधिकार के संघर्ष की
one piece has affected me the most.
एक चीज़ ने मुझ पर सबसे ज़्यादा असर किया
by Ernest Withers,
फोटोग्राफ
के दौरान
to affirm their humanity.
मानवता की पुष्टि कर रहे हैं।
that said "I am a man,"
के बैनर पकडे हुए थे,
because the phrase I grew up with
क्योंकि मैं जो सुन कर बड़ा हुआ
it was "I am the man,"
बल्कि " मैं आदमी हूँ" था,
collective statement during segregation
सबके अलग अलग होने पर सामूहिक नारा,
after integration.
स्वार्थी सा लगने वाला नारा बन गया।
in as many ways as I could think of,
अलग अलग तरह से रीमिक्स करूँ,
as a timeline of American history,
के घटनाक्रम की तरह सोचना पसंद करूंगा
You the man. What a man.
तुम आदमी हो। क्या आदमी है।
मैं हूँ, क्या मैं हूँ ।
in the English language is, "I am."
दो ताकतवर शब्द हैं, "मैं हूँ"।
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Deborah Willis - Curator, photographerDeborah Willis is a photographer and writer in search of beauty.
Why you should listen
As an author and curator, Deborah Willis's pioneering research has focused on cultural histories envisioning the black body, women and gender. She is a celebrated photographer, acclaimed historian of photography, MacArthur and Guggenheim Fellow, and University Professor and Chair of the Department of Photography & Imaging at the Tisch School of the Arts at New York University.
Willis received the NAACP Image Award in 2014 for her co-authored book Envisioning Emancipation: Black Americans and the End of Slavery (with Barbara Krauthamer) and in 2015 for the documentary Through a Lens Darkly, inspired by her book Reflections in Black: A History of Black Photographers 1840 to the Present.
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Hank Willis Thomas - Artist
Hank Willis Thomas is a conceptual artist working primarily with themes related to identity, history and popular culture.
Why you should listen
Hank Willis Thomas's work has been exhibited throughout the U.S. and abroad including, the International Center of Photography, Guggenheim Museum Bilbao, Musée du quai Branly, and the Cleveland Museum of Art. His work is in numerous public collections including the Museum of Modern Art New York, the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, the Whitney Museum of American Art, the Brooklyn Museum, the High Museum of Art and the National Gallery of Art in Washington DC, among others.
Thomas's collaborative projects include Question Bridge: Black Males, In Search Of The Truth (The Truth Booth), and For Freedoms. For Freedoms was recently awarded the 2017 ICP Infinity Award for New Media and Online Platform. Thomas is also the recipient of the 2017 Soros Equality Fellowship and the 2017 AIMIA | AGO Photography Prize. Current exhibitions include Prospect 4: The Lotus in Spite of the Swamp in New Orleans and All Things Being Equal at Zeitz Museum of Contemporary Art Africa. In 2017, Thomas also unveiled his permanent public artwork "Love Over Rules" in San Francisco and "All Power to All People" in Opa Locka, Florida. Thomas is a member of the Public Design Commission for the City of New York. He received a BFA in Photography and Africana studies from New York University and an MFA/MA in Photography and Visual Criticism from the California College of Arts. He has also received honorary doctorates from the Maryland Institute of Art and the Institute for Doctoral Studies in the Visual Arts. He lives and works in New York City.
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